Why weren’t Buckcherry bigger ?

[Not Jack Bulter]

You knew my former bandmate's wife too?

But yeah, these guys weren't bigger because they were pretty mediocre.

They got pretty big with Crazy Bitch. I remember every girl saying: "that's my song" and me thinking "no kidding".

[HueyRamone]

Josh and Keith were in an early version of Velvet Revolver.

If they were good enough for Slash to consider …..

Here is that lineup doing a tribute to Randy Castillo

https://youtu.be/nhmMETa_i9U?si=bDg7JjKvY2bb3_LJ

I remember reading somewhere that once Slash actually listened to the recorded versions he told the other guys he was quitting. When they said "Why??" he said "Have you listened to the recordings?" they said no, and he said "You should". Buckcherry guy was gone.

[Wednesday 13 Fan]

Josh and Keith were in an early version of Velvet Revolver.

If they were good enough for Slash to consider …..

Here is that lineup doing a tribute to Randy Castillo

https://youtu.be/nhmMETa_i9U?si=bDg7JjKvY2bb3_LJ

I remember reading somewhere that once Slash actually listened to the recorded versions he told the other guys he was quitting. When they said "Why??" he said "Have you listened to the recordings?" they said no, and he said "You should". Buckcherry guy was gone.

It was in his book. Keith stuck around for a little bit, but was sent packing as well. Slash said he just assumed they were a package deal and was surprised that he stayed.

[MOON]

They always seemed like a blend of Aerosmith and Guns n Roses.

Consistent records with catchy songs .

Josh Todd is right up there with Steven Tyler as a front man .Keith Nelson is a great songwriter

They should have been way bigger

Because their singer sounds like absolute shit and comes across as a complete tool!!! I don't get the Aerosmith/Guns N Roses comparison at all. I'm shocked some people expected them to be bigger back in the day.

The timing was right for people in their mid 30s+ who were over the 90s to get excited about a band bringing their youth back. I remember the pseudo-hype when they first broke, and then they just sort of flash in the panned, and I remember thinking "of course they did, that was never really going to work".

And then they reformed and came out of nowhere with Crazy Bitch, which crossed over to a larger audience. It was a perfect song to pull it off with (it just crushed it among 30-something-ish women who are in their barfly phase). But they were never going to have major staying power without some kind of major pivot towards pop, e.g. some huge ballad which I don't think they even tried.

Like I said before, rather than "why weren't they bigger" I think it's easy to argue that they got most of what they could've gotten out of what they were at the time.

yup. Timing was everything for the comeback.. They were handled by the same mgmt company and label that Motley were on...Their album 15 came out first in Japan in late 2005 and then released here in USA around April 2006.. Since we were already handling Motley's website along with the band members sites (except Tommy's), we were lucky enough to get the account to handle Buckcherry's site and online store. We handled from 2005-2009. Motley's comeback in early 05 was very successful.. That helped mgmt $ wise to give Buckcherry's 15 album a really nice push. It's a really good album.. As for a ballad, they did pretty decent with "Sorry"..

I always felt they should have gotten a lil bigger after 15. Some people say they are in the "Cheap trick" class of always being openers. I'd be fine with that if it were me. but they are out there touring A LOT and making a living... They are all great great guys too. Yea, they had some band member changes.. but they are still putting out good stuff.. i didn't think the "fuck" album was the way to go at the time. Radio is pretty pointless now.. Back in 05/06 when 15 and crazy bitch blew up, It was was all over radio. Then you had the video for Crazy Bitch.. the first one (dirty version) which got a lot of news and later pulled due to a lawsuit.. They ended up having to shoot a new video afterwards..

I still think BC is a really good band.. if you haven't seen them in a while.. go check em out.. saw em last year.. was a great show! Wish the set was a bit longer. I was bummed to have missed their tour with Skid Row a couple yrs back. Always wanted to see those 2 bands together.

[joey78]

Josh and Keith were in an early version of Velvet Revolver.

If they were good enough for Slash to consider …..

Here is that lineup doing a tribute to Randy Castillo

https://youtu.be/nhmMETa_i9U?si=bDg7JjKvY2bb3_LJ

I remember reading somewhere that once Slash actually listened to the recorded versions he told the other guys he was quitting. When they said "Why??" he said "Have you listened to the recordings?" they said no, and he said "You should". Buckcherry guy was gone.

Please elaborate .

[aznsquirt]

yup. Timing was everything for the comeback.. They were handled by the same mgmt company and label that Motley were on...Their album 15 came out first in Japan in late 2005 and then released here in USA around April 2006.. Since we were already handling Motley's website along with the band members sites (except Tommy's), we were lucky enough to get the account to handle Buckcherry's site and online store. We handled from 2005-2009. Motley's comeback in early 05 was very successful.. That helped mgmt $ wise to give Buckcherry's 15 album a really nice push. It's a really good album.. As for a ballad, they did pretty decent with "Sorry"..

I always felt they should have gotten a lil bigger after 15. Some people say they are in the "Cheap trick" class of always being openers. I'd be fine with that if it were me. but they are out there touring A LOT and making a living... They are all great great guys too. Yea, they had some band member changes.. but they are still putting out good stuff.. i didn't think the "fuck" album was the way to go at the time. Radio is pretty pointless now.. Back in 05/06 when 15 and crazy bitch blew up, It was was all over radio. Then you had the video for Crazy Bitch.. the first one (dirty version) which got a lot of news and later pulled due to a lawsuit.. They ended up having to shoot a new video afterwards..

I still think BC is a really good band.. if you haven't seen them in a while.. go check em out.. saw em last year.. was a great show! Wish the set was a bit longer. I was bummed to have missed their tour with Skid Row a couple yrs back. Always wanted to see those 2 bands together.

Thanks for the writeup. I never followed BC to any degree, never listened to an album, etc., so I'm just coming from someone who casually remembered them coming and going. I just listened to "Sorry", I may have heard it before but don't recall. It has 30mil views on YouTube so clearly it was a successful song.

I was more thinking along the lines of a song that just goes nuclear, you know, Iris level. Something that just wasn't going to happen.

I didn't know anything about the Motley connection etc. I remember hearing Crazy Bitch and being a bit shocked, both that I had already forgotten them and that they were apparently back and getting that kind of push. But it was also one of those songs I heard and thought "wow, that's perfect for what it is".

[pieceofme]

Always wondered why they ever got big in the first place and how they’ve managed to still be out there now. They always struck me as one of those bands who proudly wear their influences on their sleeve but don’t come close to being as good or better or making anything new with it.

They always seemed like a blend of Aerosmith and Guns n Roses.

Consistent records with catchy songs .

Josh Todd is right up there with Steven Tyler as a front man .Keith Nelson is a great songwriter

They should have been way bigger

Because their singer sounds like absolute shit and comes across as a complete tool!!! I don't get the Aerosmith/Guns N Roses comparison at all. I'm shocked some people expected them to be bigger back in the day.

The timing was right for people in their mid 30s+ who were over the 90s to get excited about a band bringing their youth back. I remember the pseudo-hype when they first broke, and then they just sort of flash in the panned, and I remember thinking "of course they did, that was never really going to work".

And then they reformed and came out of nowhere with Crazy Bitch, which crossed over to a larger audience. It was a perfect song to pull it off with (it just crushed it among 30-something-ish women who are in their barfly phase). But they were never going to have major staying power without some kind of major pivot towards pop, e.g. some huge ballad which I don't think they even tried.

Like I said before, rather than "why weren't they bigger" I think it's easy to argue that they got most of what they could've gotten out of what they were at the time.

These two posts sums it up well.

I think I might have the album with crazy bitch on. I think I listened to it a couple of times. Obviously not a good album.