Badlands - Brazil "reissues"

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See for yourself :

https://www.discogs.com/release/3038062 ... s-Badlands

https://www.discogs.com/release/3038067 ... oo-Highway

[MattleyCrue]

Awesome hopefully they go to streaming

[NineteenEightyFour]

Still have my originals so I'm good to go.

[Van Ailin']

I have all three on vinyl . . . and am really happy with them.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Way to go Brasil. Way to support HIV spreading rapists.

[Van Ailin']

Way to go Brasil. Way to support HIV spreading rapists.

Just how is he "supported?" There's no money going to Ray Gillen. (And for these, I might also guess none going to Jake E. Lee).

[FreddyFender]

Daily reminder that Ray Gillin did not sleep with fans and give them aids, and then the AIDs-riddled victims *secretly* sued Atlantic Records, who then *secretly* blocked all future re-releases of a band no one cared about.

That shit is a conspiracy theory from Eddie Trunk. Not one shred of evidence any of that ever happened.

[SchenkerFan]

Daily reminder that Ray Gillin did not sleep with fans and give them aids, and then the AIDs-riddled victims *secretly* sued Atlantic Records, who then *secretly* blocked all future re-releases of a band no one cared about.

That shit is internet fanfiction. Not one shred of evidence any of that ever happened.

No evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. Much less successful bands have gotten several reissues. I assume no one has ever officially come forth with this because they do not wish to tarnish a dead man's name out of respect for his family.

[FreddyFender]

Daily reminder that Ray Gillin did not sleep with fans and give them aids, and then the AIDs-riddled victims *secretly* sued Atlantic Records, who then *secretly* blocked all future re-releases of a band no one cared about.

That shit is internet fanfiction. Not one shred of evidence any of that ever happened.

No evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. Much less successful bands have gotten several reissues. I assume no one has ever officially come forth with this because they do not wish to tarnish a dead man's name out of respect for his family.

Court records are public - if it did happen, someone would have pulled the documents years ago.

No one has because it didn't happen.

[Bono Nettencourt]

Then why does the Jakester complain about this non-happening?

[Bob Sacamano]

Daily reminder that Ray Gillin did not sleep with fans and give them aids, and then the AIDs-riddled victims *secretly* sued Atlantic Records, who then *secretly* blocked all future re-releases of a band no one cared about.

That shit is internet fanfiction. Not one shred of evidence any of that ever happened.

No evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. Much less successful bands have gotten several reissues. I assume no one has ever officially come forth with this because they do not wish to tarnish a dead man's name out of respect for his family.

Yep. I’ve heard the story from several people and I believe most of the things I have heard have a significant amount of truth. Otherwise, why would there be more or less a ban on Atlantic even issuing a license for the records.

[FreddyFender]

Daily reminder that Ray Gillin did not sleep with fans and give them aids, and then the AIDs-riddled victims *secretly* sued Atlantic Records, who then *secretly* blocked all future re-releases of a band no one cared about.

That shit is internet fanfiction. Not one shred of evidence any of that ever happened.

No evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. Much less successful bands have gotten several reissues. I assume no one has ever officially come forth with this because they do not wish to tarnish a dead man's name out of respect for his family.

Yep. I’ve heard the story from several people and I believe most of the things I have heard have a significant amount of truth. Otherwise, why would there be more or less a ban on Atlantic even issuing a license for the records.

Again - if it was true, the court records would have been easily obtained by now. They haven't been because they don't exist - no one sued Atlantic because Ray Gillin gave them AIDs. Didn't happen.

[Bob Sacamano]

Again - if it was true, the court records would have been easily obtained by now. They haven't been because they don't exist - no one sued Atlantic because Ray Gillin gave them AIDs. Didn't happen.

Out of court settlements can absolutely remain sealed.

[FreddyFender]

Again - if it was true, the court records would have been easily obtained by now. They haven't been because they don't exist - no one sued Atlantic because Ray Gillin gave them AIDs. Didn't happen.

Out of court settlements can absolutely remain sealed.

An out of court settlement with no lawsuit filed against Atlantic Records due to the recreational behavior of a guy in one of their former acts? An act that flopped? Resulting in deleting Bandlands catalogue *forever* without the bands knowledge? Sounds about as likely as Stevie Nicks and Debby Harry picking me up at Camelback High School every day and fucking me all through junior year.

and there's equal evidence to support both those claims.

Badlands had a huge falling out with Paul O'Neil from TSO around the time Voodoo Highway came out: he said if they fired him, he'd go to Atlantic and tell them Ray had AIDs. They fired him, he went to Atlantic, and Atlantic cut ties with the band. No support for touring the second album.

It's just as likely Atlantic deleted the Badlands albums based on whatever Paul told them. We don't know.

What we *DO* know is there there was no lawsuit. No victims or their families have ever come forward. Nothing from his bandmates or peers about any of these accusations. No one ever sold the incredibly juicy story "rockstar infects groupies" at the height of the AIDs scare to the press.

Hell of a conspiracy - all these people coming together to protect the reputation of a supposedly evil lowlife like Ray.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Daily reminder that Ray Gillin did not sleep with fans and give them aids, and then the AIDs-riddled victims *secretly* sued Atlantic Records, who then *secretly* blocked all future re-releases of a band no one cared about.

That shit is a conspiracy theory from Eddie Trunk. Not one shred of evidence any of that ever happened.

You’re correct. It was the deceased, AIDS-riddled victim’s parents who sued and blocked all future re-releases of a band no one cared about.

Daily reminder:

-last time I checked this place was called “The Gossip Board” so this is the perfect place to talk about sh*T like this

-there are plenty of remastered re-releases of hairbands no one cares about. Examples: Warrant, Motley Crue, Van Hagar, Whitesnake

[FreddyFender]

Tommy2Tone84 is an HIV spreading rapist.

[REO Cokewagon]

See for yourself :

https://www.discogs.com/release/3038062 ... s-Badlands

https://www.discogs.com/release/3038067 ... oo-Highway

Nobody even has heard of the badlands. They barely made it out of their own state, u think they made it to Brazil?

[MattleyCrue]

How did Ray get AIDS?

[Tommy2Tone84]

How did Ray get AIDS?

Allegedly Ray shared needles with his heroin addicted, AIDS infected uncle.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Again - if it was true, the court records would have been easily obtained by now. They haven't been because they don't exist - no one sued Atlantic because Ray Gillin gave them AIDs. Didn't happen.

Out of court settlements can absolutely remain sealed.

An out of court settlement with no lawsuit filed against Atlantic Records due to the recreational behavior of a guy in one of their former acts? An act that flopped? Resulting in deleting Bandlands catalogue *forever* without the bands knowledge? Sounds about as likely as Stevie Nicks and Debby Harry picking me up at Camelback High School every day and fucking me all through junior year.

and there's equal evidence to support both those claims.

Badlands had a huge falling out with Paul O'Neil from TSO around the time Voodoo Highway came out: he said if they fired him, he'd go to Atlantic and tell them Ray had AIDs. They fired him, he went to Atlantic, and Atlantic cut ties with the band. No support for touring the second album.

It's just as likely Atlantic deleted the Badlands albums based on whatever Paul told them. We don't know.

What we *DO* know is there there was no lawsuit. No victims or their families have ever come forward. Nothing from his bandmates or peers about any of these accusations. No one ever sold the incredibly juicy story "rockstar infects groupies" at the height of the AIDs scare to the press.

Hell of a conspiracy - all these people coming together to protect the reputation of a supposedly evil lowlife like Ray.

Why would Atlantic delete the two albums simply because Ray had AIDS? That doesn’t make any sense.

[Van Ailin']

Why did so many rockers turn to heroin? Especially in the 80s, when impact and addictiveness were really really really really well-understood? Here's an idea: you cannot become addicted to something you simply do not start.

[FreddyFender]

Why would Atlantic delete the two albums simply because Ray had AIDS? That doesn’t make any sense.

Neither does deleting them because Ray gave someone AIDS.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Why would Atlantic delete the two albums simply because Ray had AIDS? That doesn’t make any sense.

Neither does deleting them because Ray gave someone AIDS.

That makes more sense if Ray was sleeping around with a handful of women fully well knowing that he was infected with the virus but concealing it from them.

[Ozzy Stradlin]

My understanding is that Jason Flom at Atlantic hates the band & wants the albums to remain buried.

[Hellsinkey]

My understanding is that Jason Flom at Atlantic hates the band & wants the albums to remain buried.

He hasn't been associated with the label since 2008. I don't think the band is even on his radar.

[Thebottomline]

Maybe Ray Gillen's mother has something to do with it. I remember about 15 or maybe 20 years ago I read an interview with Glenn Hughes. It was brought up that his former band Trapeze had reunited in 1994 to do a tribute to Ray Gillen. They performed a set of Badlands songs. The show was recorded. Ray Gillen's mother had put a stop of the show being released. Not sure how much more in depth Glenn can speak about it. I would love to get my hands of a recording of that show.