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Has to be one of the worst songs I've ever heard. KISS have more than their fair share of garbage tunes, but this one is truly an abomination. If they gave a shit about their fans, they would never have put this on an album, not even a box set of unreleased tunes. Just horrible.
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Yep. Total shit. Hated it as a kid. Hate it now.
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Destroyer is NOT the masterpiece they want you to believe.

Detroit and King start it strong. As much as GoT is Gene's signature song, it sucks. Beth may have won a People's Choice, but it's a pussy ballad. I'm skipping over a lot, but the rest is a yawner. As a 5th grader, I thought the entire album was the bee's knees. The artwork grabbed me, and it was my intro to KISS. So, of course, I was looking at it through the lens of a dumb kid.
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TooOldToCare wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:59 am Destroyer is NOT the masterpiece they want you to believe.

Detroit and King start it strong. As much as GoT is Gene's signature song, it sucks. Beth may have won a People's Choice, but it's a pussy ballad. I'm skipping over a lot, but the rest is a yawner. As a 5th grader, I thought the entire album was the bee's knees. The artwork grabbed me, and it was my intro to KISS. So, of course, I was looking at it through the lens of a dumb kid.
I love God of Thunder, but I'm with you on the rest. Sweet Pain and Flaming Youth are kinda meh. Beth sucks. Shout It Out Loud is cool I guess.

Never got why this album is regarded as one of their greats. Debut is much better. I'd say most of their 70s albums are better.
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TooOldToCare wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:59 am I was looking at it through the lens of a dumb kid.
You just summed up the appeal of KISS.
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BernieTaupson wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:06 pm
TooOldToCare wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:59 am I was looking at it through the lens of a dumb kid.
You just summed up the appeal of KISS.
I loved that album. Would always end side one after Beth.
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Beth is on side 2.
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BernieTaupson wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:48 pm Beth is on side 2.
OK. You're correct. I ended it before Expectations.
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I also hated Do You Love Me.

Damn. That album wasn't that great.

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DemonFilth2001 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:15 pm I also hated Do You Love Me.

Damn. That album wasn't that great.

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prog wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:20 pm
DemonFilth2001 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:15 pm I also hated Do You Love Me.

Damn. That album wasn't that great.

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Love both songs! Love sweet pain as well!
Sweet Pain and Flaming Youth? Great.

Beth was OK. Great Expectations sucked. So bad.

Debut was the best.
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DemonFilth2001 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:23 pm
prog wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:20 pm
DemonFilth2001 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:15 pm I also hated Do You Love Me.

Damn. That album wasn't that great.

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Love both songs! Love sweet pain as well!
Sweet Pain and Flaming Youth? Great.

Beth was OK. Great Expectations sucked. So bad.

Debut was the best.
Beth sucked.
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Hated it the first time I heard it. Hated it probably the next 20 times I heard it. Started warming up to it eventually, and now the completely idiotic charms of it have won me over. I think it might be my favorite song on Destroyer.

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Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:17 pm Hated it the first time I heard it. Hated it probably the next 20 times I heard it. Started warming up to it eventually, and now the completely idiotic charms of it have won me over. I think it might be my favorite song on Destroyer.
Not my favorite song but yes it has won me over and I like it now.

The weakest songs on Destroyer are the biggest singles. Beth and Detroit.
Detroit may be the most overrated Kiss song together with Calling Dr. Love.
Their two best albums, and the weakest songs become the classics....???
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i love the song.
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Semi-KISStard, but Destroyer is totally overrated........ "Great Expectations" sucks (and blows) and I also don't like "Flaming Youth" (ghey) and "Sweet Pain" (typical Gene filler).
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EXCELLENT:
Detroit Rock City
Shout It Out Loud

GREAT:
King of the Night Time World
God of Thunder
Do You Love Me

GOOD:
Flaming Youth
Sweet Pain

MEH:
Great Expectations

You can talk shit about "Beth" all you want, but it was a ballsy move to take the band's established style and do a complete 180° like that. It could have ruined them, but instead it made them bigger than ever
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Demon Kogure wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:18 am EXCELLENT:
Detroit Rock City
Shout It Out Loud

GREAT:
King of the Night Time World
God of Thunder
Do You Love Me

GOOD:
Flaming Youth
Sweet Pain

MEH:
Great Expectations

You can talk shit about "Beth" all you want, but it was a ballsy move to take the band's established style and do a complete 180° like that. It could have ruined them, but instead it made them bigger than ever
I'd move Do ya love me to Excellent, but this is correct otherwise
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TooOldToCare wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:59 am Destroyer is NOT the masterpiece they want you to believe.
Nope, never has been anything with Great Expectations on it is automatically not a masterpiece. They were lucky to have a cool as fuck album cover that has clouded the KISStards view of the album.
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People here will listen to the Eagles and then call "Beth" wimpy.
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Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:34 pm People here will listen to the Eagles and then call "Beth" wimpy.
Beth is OK.

Eagles can burn in hell
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It's never a song I choose to listen to by itself. But in the context of the album I enjoy it. Especially when it gets going.

Destroyer is a great album.
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