We need to talk about Hot in the Shade. (Yes. We do.)

[pieceofme]

Yeah if you don't like Strutter you're not going to like KISS. It is on of their top 3 songs imo.

I guess, but Strutter was always my least fave song on side 1 of Alive!
Just yelling STRUTTER! didnt seem like the best chorus I'd ever heard.

For me, that would be Firehouse. That song never seemed to go anywhere. And even the live version was plodding and drags. It's early KISS, so it is still decent. But thankfully God of Thunder came along so they didn't have to always use Firehouse for the breathing part of the concert.

[HueyRamone]

Yeah if you don't like Strutter you're not going to like KISS. It is on of their top 3 songs imo.

I guess, but Strutter was always my least fave song on side 1 of Alive!
Just yelling STRUTTER! didnt seem like the best chorus I'd ever heard.

For me, that would be Firehouse. That song never seemed to go anywhere. And even the live version was plodding and drags. It's early KISS, so it is still decent. But thankfully God of Thunder came along so they didn't have to always use Firehouse for the breathing part of the concert.

I like Firehouse all right, but not any more or less than, say Hotter than Hell. I always thought it was weird that they seem to think Firehouse is mandatory to play live, whereas HTH, Got to Choose and Nuthin To Lose arent

God of thunder is the Blood part. You're thinking of War Machine for the fire breathing part.

[TREVERLAST]

"Beth" may have been their biggest hit when it was current, but it barely stuck around. "Heaven's On Fire" and "Lick It Up" aged better and still get play. I'd call those two bigger overall hits, despite not charting in the top-40 (and the way Billboard ranks that stuff is dubious, even back in the '80s).

Just checked the top streamed Kiss songs on Spotify...

1. I Was Made For Lovin' You
2. Rock and Roll All Nite
3. Detroit Rock City
4. Heaven's On Fire
5. Lick It Up
6. Love Gun
7. Forever
8. Strutter
9. Crazy Crazy Nights
10. Beth

That looks about right to me. The only surprise is "Strutter" being that high. Although it's the first song on a "Kiss - Greatest Hits" playlist that pops up at the top. People probably get curious, give Kiss a chance, listen to the first song and say that's enough.

Side note: My autocorrect tried to change "Nite" to "Night". It doesn't understand how we roll.

Those Spotify #s are always weird. It had a similar list for my top songs of the year. I NEVER once asked my Spotify to play any of those songs. Those just reflect the top KISS songs Spotify chose, not what the listener chooses.

What exactly would the ranking be of the most popular KISS songs on Spotify by the general public in your opinion?

As Mister Freeze said, these look pretty much spot on.

I agree with that list for the general public. I meant that because they were in MY Spotify year end list it was not accurate for KISS songs I chose to listen to. Lets say I would pick '100,000 Years' and 'RNR All Nite' automatically plays next it goes on the list. Hope that makes more sense.

[pieceofme]

I guess, but Strutter was always my least fave song on side 1 of Alive!
Just yelling STRUTTER! didnt seem like the best chorus I'd ever heard.

For me, that would be Firehouse. That song never seemed to go anywhere. And even the live version was plodding and drags. It's early KISS, so it is still decent. But thankfully God of Thunder came along so they didn't have to always use Firehouse for the breathing part of the concert.

I like Firehouse all right, but not any more or less than, say Hotter than Hell. I always thought it was weird that they seem to think Firehouse is mandatory to play live, whereas HTH, Got to Choose and Nuthin To Lose arent

God of thunder is the Blood part. You're thinking of War Machine for the fire breathing part.

Yes, you're right.

[Thebottomline]

I love the song Forever. It's one that I never get sick of. But I do agree that rest of HITS sucks ass. Forever did get a lot of radio play up here in the Portland, Oregon area then. 101 KUFO played it and then we had a top 40 station that played it alot. Mtv played the shit out of Forever.

[diablomozart]

i've actually never heard the entire album...i liked asylum well enough but i guess that was around the time i lost interest so i never bought hot in the shade...d.m.

[Hatchets Molly]

I'm the guy who liked every album in its moment, but not today. I dropped out around the early 2000s and no longer intentionally play a KISS album. The 80s and early 90s were my college years, so it has nostalgic value.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Kiss were at a low point in their career when they released HITS. They were getting respect for their legacy - see the sales of Smashes Thrashes and Hits - but nobody cared about new music anymore and modern Kiss was deeply uncool.

Asylum bombed, their supposed big comeback Crazy Nights made it to platinum but far from the Leppard's, Bon Jovis or Mötleys they were chasing and the HITS tour only got off the ground thanks to MTV exposure via Forever and attractive opening bands.

Notice how they pivoted with their setlist, from LIU to CN pre-Creatures songs were a footnote but on HITS the set centered around the 70s with only three HITS songs represented.

The Revenge album and tour cemented their position - they did everything right and fans loved the album - but it didn't sell more than gold and the tour was a financial disaster.

Asylum bombed? In what loon alternative universe are you living? Asylum, HITS and Revenge all went gold. Unlike Revenge, the Asylum tour didn’t take a sh*t.

Revenge didn’t do anything. The record company pushed the hell out of that album, releasing five videos at MTV, and it did the same as the two singles of Asylum. Fans and the public at large didn’t care that Gene and Paul wore black leather. In theory, Revenge should’ve put them back on top but it did nothing, it was a worse disaster and disappointment than Creatures. Revenge should’ve went multi platinum but it didn’t.

The fans and public wanted the clown show. They later proved that Ace and Peter didn’t necessarily have to be there. Gene and Paul just should’ve put Eric Carr and their succession of 80s lead guitarists in the original clown costumes and everything would’ve worked itself out. After Carr passed, they should’ve put Singer in the Cat Clown suit. It would’ve saved them a lot of trial and tribulation.

Paul was dead wrong about taking the makeup off. His leadership has proven to be lacking. With it, we got Vinnie Vagsand, Mark St Meth, X In Sex and Read My Body.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

“Vinnie Vagsand” is not bad.

[Love_Industry]

Kiss were at a low point in their career when they released HITS. They were getting respect for their legacy - see the sales of Smashes Thrashes and Hits - but nobody cared about new music anymore and modern Kiss was deeply uncool.

Asylum bombed, their supposed big comeback Crazy Nights made it to platinum but far from the Leppard's, Bon Jovis or Mötleys they were chasing and the HITS tour only got off the ground thanks to MTV exposure via Forever and attractive opening bands.

Notice how they pivoted with their setlist, from LIU to CN pre-Creatures songs were a footnote but on HITS the set centered around the 70s with only three HITS songs represented.

The Revenge album and tour cemented their position - they did everything right and fans loved the album - but it didn't sell more than gold and the tour was a financial disaster.

Asylum bombed? In what loon alternative universe are you living? Asylum, HITS and Revenge all went gold. Unlike Revenge, the Asylum tour didn’t take a sh*t.

The universe where Asylum (gold) came between Animalize (2x platinum with Heaven's On Fire being their best known 80s song) and the platinum Crazy Nights. They wouldn't have wasted time and money on Ron Nevison for CN if they (Paul) felt they were on a roll with Asylum.

Also, the Asylum tour had according to setlist.fm exactly one (1) show outside the U.S. In Toronto, Canada. They toured most of Europe for LIU, Animalize and even Crazy Nights, and said to European mags that they would come back but the demand wasn't there.

[lemmyswart2]

Ummm no we do not. We need to talk Kiss Alive and Alive 2.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Kiss were at a low point in their career when they released HITS. They were getting respect for their legacy - see the sales of Smashes Thrashes and Hits - but nobody cared about new music anymore and modern Kiss was deeply uncool.

Asylum bombed, their supposed big comeback Crazy Nights made it to platinum but far from the Leppard's, Bon Jovis or Mötleys they were chasing and the HITS tour only got off the ground thanks to MTV exposure via Forever and attractive opening bands.

Notice how they pivoted with their setlist, from LIU to CN pre-Creatures songs were a footnote but on HITS the set centered around the 70s with only three HITS songs represented.

The Revenge album and tour cemented their position - they did everything right and fans loved the album - but it didn't sell more than gold and the tour was a financial disaster.

Asylum bombed? In what loon alternative universe are you living? Asylum, HITS and Revenge all went gold. Unlike Revenge, the Asylum tour didn’t take a sh*t.

The universe where Asylum (gold) came between Animalize (2x platinum with Heaven's On Fire being their best known 80s song) and the platinum Crazy Nights. They wouldn't have wasted time and money on Ron Nevison for CN if they (Paul) felt they were on a roll with Asylum.

Also, the Asylum tour had according to setlist.fm exactly one (1) show outside the U.S. In Toronto, Canada. They toured most of Europe for LIU, Animalize and even Crazy Nights, and said to European mags that they would come back but the demand wasn't there.

To this day, I’m astonished that Animalize went double platinum. Second only to HITS, it’s their weakest of the 1983-1992 era. Although Revenge isn’t far behind.

They didn’t leave the shores of North America on the Love Gun tour either. Which we can agree was the height and pinnacle of their career. During the Alive II tour, they doubled down on the North American market and only briefly left to play five shows in Japan all at the same venue. The previous tour was largely the same. They also didn’t leave North American shores on the Dynasty tour either. That record went platinum and had their biggest international hit single of their career.

Outside of two shows in Brazil, they didn’t tour outside of the US on Creatures either. Creatures didn’t go gold, Asylum did. Speaking of going gold, they went gold on Unmasked but only played one show here in the States at the same 3,000seat venue they got their start on December 31, 1973. The rest of that tour, they played exclusively in Western Europe and the Pacific Rim sans Japan.


They didn’t play outside of North America on HITS either. They also mostly played and sold well in arenas on Asylum. They played MSG and the Forum on Asylum. I can’t say the same for many of their other tours in the 80s.


It’s hard to say what Paul was thinking a lot of the time in the 80s. From hiring Vinnie and Mark to waiting a year to work with an overrate like Nevison to firing Eric Carr while he was in the hospital fighting terminal cancer.

Speaking of touring over seas, Van Halen hardly ever toured outside of the US.

[Thebottomline]

Just going through the walk in closet in one of my spare bedrooms to look for an old work shirt and I discovered that I own a Kiss Hot In The Shade tshirt. I forgot all about it. I couldn't make it to the concert because it had sold out but one of my classmates went and he bought this shirt for me. I forgot all about it. It's a large size so there ain't no way it's gonna fit me. Shit!

[kytepunches]

Just going through the walk in closet in one of my spare bedrooms to look for an old work shirt and I discovered that I own a Kiss Hot In The Shade tshirt. I forgot all about it. I couldn't make it to the concert because it had sold out but one of my classmates went and he bought this shirt for me. I forgot all about it. It's a large size so there ain't no way it's gonna fit me. Shit!

Mattley will offer you 50 bucks for it. Then settle on 300.

[NeonKnite]

To this day, I’m astonished that Animalize went double platinum.

You don't understand what hit singles did to album sales back then.

Second only to HITS, it’s their weakest of the 1983-1992 era. Although Revenge isn’t far behind.

Nooe. Starting with LIU, each album got progressively worse.

LIU > Animalize > Asylum > CN > HITS

[HueyRamone]

To this day, I’m astonished that Animalize went double platinum.

You don't understand what hit singles did to album sales back then.

Second only to HITS, it’s their weakest of the 1983-1992 era. Although Revenge isn’t far behind.

Nooe. Starting with LIU, each album got progressively worse.

LIU > Animalize > Asylum > CN > HITS

HOF is the best song on both Animalize and Asylum combined, but Asylum is better than Animalize. A-lize is awful besides HOF.

The rest of your ranking is accurate.

[Tommy2Tone84]

To this day, I’m astonished that Animalize went double platinum.

You don't understand what hit singles did to album sales back then.

Second only to HITS, it’s their weakest of the 1983-1992 era. Although Revenge isn’t far behind.

Nooe. Starting with LIU, each album got progressively worse.

LIU > Animalize > Asylum > CN > HITS

HOF is the best song on both Animalize and Asylum combined, but Asylum is better than Animalize. A-lize is awful besides HOF.

The rest of your ranking is accurate.

I like I’ve Had Enough, TITN, UTG, and LITH

King of the Mountain is better than anything off Animalize. Asylum is stacked. Tears, WWTBL, UAN, TBF are all better than HOF. Asylum is raw dogged because of their image. If they were still in the clown makeup fans would all be gushing over it. Maybe even squirting from their G-Spots.

[SW]

You don't understand what hit singles did to album sales back then.



Nooe. Starting with LIU, each album got progressively worse.

LIU > Animalize > Asylum > CN > HITS

HOF is the best song on both Animalize and Asylum combined, but Asylum is better than Animalize. A-lize is awful besides HOF.

The rest of your ranking is accurate.

Maybe even squirting from their G-Spots.

You sure know where squirt comes from?

[Wiseacre]

HOF is the best song on both Animalize and Asylum combined, but Asylum is better than Animalize.

HOF sucks. The chorus is alright, but it has a total crap “verse”.

Thrills In the Night is the best song on that album by a mile.

[Dee Dee King Diamond]

It sucks. All that needs to be said. No, narrowing down the run time wouldn't help.

[Bono Nettencourt]

To this day, I’m astonished that Animalize went double platinum.

You don't understand what hit singles did to album sales back then.

Second only to HITS, it’s their weakest of the 1983-1992 era. Although Revenge isn’t far behind.

Nooe. Starting with LIU, each album got progressively worse.

LIU > Animalize > Asylum > CN > HITS

HOF is the best song on both Animalize and Asylum combined, but Asylum is better than Animalize. A-lize is awful besides HOF.

All correct.