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Sammy said that the VH brothers needed someone to lead them. According to him, Dave did during his years and then Sammy took over. Some might say VH3 (and maybe ADKOT) was the only album when Ed took the lead? Do you agree?

Rocker4Real wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:48 am Sammy said that the VH brothers needed someone to lead them. According to him, Dave did during his years and then Sammy took over. Some might say VH3 (and maybe ADKOT) was the only album when Ed took the lead? Do you agree?

From everything I've read, it sounds like Wolfie was the leader on ADKOT. He was the motivating force to get them into the recording studio. He was the guy that went through the vaults to find and suggest the material they eventually worked on. From what he's said in interviews, he was also heavily involved in a lot of the arrangements of the newer material (i.e. Stay Frosty).

I think Ed and Randy Rhoads were brilliant riff writers and soloists, but not really songwriters. They needed a DLR/Hagar or a Bob Daisley to shape the songs. Obviously Cherone wasnt really a songwriter either, based off the garbage that was VH3

Yes.

Absolutely. Somebody posted recently that without Dave, Eddie would've been the best guitar player to never leave his bedroom.

I think a lot of bands were like that. The singer was the frontman that led the band. And of course, management ran the business side of things. Just being a guitar player is never enough.

Wolfie was the leader..leader to Pizza Hut every morning -every night
Van Halen was never good- Pizza Hut always good

LAglamrocker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:39 am Wolfie was the leader..leader to Pizza Hut every morning -every night
Van Halen was never good- Pizza Hut always good

I bet he can shovel those little cinnamon rolls by the dozens down his fat face.

eddie lee roth wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:34 am Yes to the question and no one did it better than DLR.

I think it’s a bit harsh to say never leave the bedroom player though.

They actually preformed on the boat ride to this country and continued to do so growing up.

Don’t piss on the Kings grave like that give him a fucking rest that shit just isn’t so.

It wasn't me, dude! It was Bono in the Alex Van Halen book thread.

Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:47 pm He wouldve been the greatest bedroom guitarist ever.

Valerie golden showered the “king” Eddie plenty of times
Wolfie was downstairs eating all blueberry ice cream

As an aside, Alex’s instagram page has been posting lots of photos that I’ve never seen.
Does not mean they are new, but still.

LAglamrocker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:07 pm Valerie golden showered the “king” Eddie plenty of times
Wolfie was downstairs eating all blueberry ice cream

Brings a whole new meaning to the old Fats Domino song Blueberry Hill.

LAglamrocker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:39 am Wolfie was the leader..leader to Pizza Hut every morning -every night
Van Halen was never good-

An LAglamrocker saying VH was never good. What's wrong with this picture?

DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:47 am Absolutely. Somebody posted recently that without Dave, Eddie would've been the best guitar player to never leave his bedroom.

I think a lot of bands were like that.

Mike Tramp/Vito being the most glaring example that comes to mind.

Van Halen wasn’t good at music
Wolfie is good at lemon pie eating with both hands tied behind his back- thanks pops

LAglamrocker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:45 pm Van Halen wasn’t good at music
Wolfie is good at lemon pie eating with both hands tied behind his back- thanks pops

His dad did it without a tongue, pops wins.

LAglamrocker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:45 pm Van Halen wasn’t good at music

Disagree. Violently, if necessary.

NeonKnite wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:56 am

Rocker4Real wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:48 am Sammy said that the VH brothers needed someone to lead them. According to him, Dave did during his years and then Sammy took over. Some might say VH3 (and maybe ADKOT) was the only album when Ed took the lead? Do you agree?

From everything I've read, it sounds like Wolfie was the leader on ADKOT. He was the motivating force to get them into the recording studio. He was the guy that went through the vaults to find and suggest the material they eventually worked on. From what he's said in interviews, he was also heavily involved in a lot of the arrangements of the newer material (i.e. Stay Frosty).

Wolfe also was the de facto bandleader on the reunion tour, he put together the setlists.

The little "this fucking kid..." rant he did earlier this year was all we're probably gonna get on that. TBH, most of the reunion story past 2008 was about how bad his voice got, and he's not interested in retelling that tale.

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 12:37 am He’s probably too ashamed to after he basically had to do what Ed’s kid told him to get back into the band.

And what was that?

eddie lee roth wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:34 am Yes to the question and no one did it better than DLR.

I think it’s a bit harsh to say never leave the bedroom player though.

They actually preformed on the boat ride to this country and continued to do so growing up.

Don’t piss on the Kings grave like that give him a fucking rest that shit just isn’t so.

But on the boat ride and afterwards in Pasadena it was their father who pushed them on stage.
At least according to Alex's book.

El Vampiro Blanco wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:04 am

eddie lee roth wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:34 am Yes to the question and no one did it better than DLR.

I think it’s a bit harsh to say never leave the bedroom player though.

They actually preformed on the boat ride to this country and continued to do so growing up.

Don’t piss on the Kings grave like that give him a fucking rest that shit just isn’t so.

But on the boat ride and afterwards in Pasadena it was their father who pushed them on stage.
At least according to Alex's book.

You’re right about that and don’t forget mom with the pianist dreams for them.

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:51 pm He was told to STFU on the first tour, he barely did any introductions between the songs at all. Wolf picked the setlist. He wasn’t allowed to do any interviews whatsoever for that first tour outside of the ten minute press conference they all did in 2007. He was totally on the leash.

That totally makes sense now. I was pleasantly surprised at his intense focus on professionally singing, but also a little let down that it wasn’t really Diamond Dave anymore.

I needed a little, “Don’t be sticking your tongue out at me, sweetheart, unless you intend to uuuuuuse it!” Or a, “I’m gonna fuck your girlfriend tonight, asshole!”

eddie lee roth wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:35 am

El Vampiro Blanco wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:04 am

eddie lee roth wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:34 am Yes to the question and no one did it better than DLR.

I think it’s a bit harsh to say never leave the bedroom player though.

They actually preformed on the boat ride to this country and continued to do so growing up.

Don’t piss on the Kings grave like that give him a fucking rest that shit just isn’t so.

But on the boat ride and afterwards in Pasadena it was their father who pushed them on stage.
At least according to Alex's book.

You’re right about that and don’t forget mom with the pianist dreams for them.

LOL that's like every Asian mother ever.

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:12 am From all accounts their mom was a nutcase. Like mentally ill in her later years.

You don't see Jehova's Witnesses in the trees in front of your house daily?

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:51 am No but if they did they better be wearin’ a cup.

Eddie definitely seemed like the kind of pussy that would kick a guy in the nuts.

And just dumb enough to brag about it because he thinks it makes him a tough guy.

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:51 pm He was told to STFU on the first tour, he barely did any introductions between the songs at all. Wolf picked the setlist. He wasn’t allowed to do any interviews whatsoever for that first tour outside of the ten minute press conference they all did in 2007. He was totally on the leash.

You actually believe Wolfie made these calla?

Roth and the VH brothers were good together but a mixed bag on their own. Sammy saves the bros asses. No one was there to save Dave from himself. He had two of the best musicians on earth in Steve and Billy, and he couldn’t keep them around. He didn’t seem to have the ability to replace them with anyone worthwhile either. He wasn’t any better of a leader than Al and Ed, and his voice went to shit by the 90s. He didn’t take care of it. It tried to go Mr Bojangles Vegas in 94 and became a parody.

Dave and the brothers needed each other. The VH brothers needed Sammy, Sammy didn’t necessarily need them. I think that is why he is hated so badly by a certain percentage of the fan base.


Gary didn’t need them either.

Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:24 am Sammy didn’t necessarily need them. I think that is why he is hated so badly by a certain percentage of the fan base.

Sammy certainly acts like he needed them. He's been living off his VH years one way or another for most of the last 30 years.

And it drives him bat shit crazy that he's remembered for being in 2nd rate Van Halen, and it will always be that way.