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Kiss put out some cheap ass ,3rd rate looking garbage to sell to their fans . I’m shocked

shocked, not shocked

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 5:02 pm Paul ranted that the RNRHOF wouldn’t put Carr, Kulick, Thayer and Singer in yet they approve shit like this pissing all over Carr and Kulick.

Did they though? Approve it? They sold Kiss, the entire brand last year I doubt they get any say in this..

It’s because they don’t want to pay for the use of their likenesses.

Ozzy Stradlin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:13 pm It’s because they don’t want to pay for the use of their likenesses.

DING DING DING we have a winner!

Damn. That is brutal.

This is some shit. Maybe not quite Sharon or Van Halen level shit, but some shit nonetheless.

How many Asylum shirts are they actually going to sell in 2025? I know there will always be Kisstards, but I don’t exactly think these designs will be in high demand.

There has to be more to this than sheer greed. I can’t see Bruce ruffling any feathers. Is Eric Carr’s estate at war with Gene and Paul or something?

Are there two lamer, petty bitches than Gene and Paul? No, there are not.

I'm sure both of the people in the market for KISS Asylum merch in 2025 are furious about this.

The good news is that the cover art on the shirt is exactly 50% less lame as the original.

I have zero interest in that tour, but I’m trying to remember a single time KISS didn’t disappoint their target audience. They have that down to a science.

It's only a matter of time until Bruce loses his shit... he's been the flag bearer for the non-make-up years doing anniversary videos and such and then they do this to him.

Just saw he's actually addressed this:

NeonKnite wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:01 am Just saw he's actually addressed this:

I wish this vanilla lapdog would grow some fucking balls for once.

Of the things I've seen with Bruce on YouTube, he's become increasingly bolder in his words. He's still diplomatic.

F G and P. Pure dick move.

Lol, "A rights issue" as if Bruce Kulick suddenly is paying hardball.

Not sure what they mean by “rights issue”. I’m sure Bruce and Eric’s estate would approve it. Or are they written out of Kisstory somehow?

Anyway…a more accurate t-shirt would be one without Peter and Ace since they didn’t even play on certain albums or songs at least!

DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:46 am Not sure what they mean by “rights issue”. I’m sure Bruce and Eric’s estate would approve it. Or are they written out of Kisstory somehow?

Anyway…a more accurate t-shirt would be one without Peter and Ace since they didn’t even play on certain albums or songs at least!

"Rights" can be taken care of with a quick phone-call - e-mail - docu-sign. Nobody is gonna break the bank with t-shirt sales from this release so not getting said rights and including them is.......lame.

What makes it so their likeness can be on the album cover but not on merchandise?

Hatchets Molly wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:55 am What makes it so their likeness can be on the album cover but not on merchandise?

lying?

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:10 am

Hatchets Molly wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:55 am What makes it so their likeness can be on the album cover but not on merchandise?

lying?

Money?

Danzig in the Dark wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:11 am

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:10 am

Hatchets Molly wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:55 am What makes it so their likeness can be on the album cover but not on merchandise?

lying?

Money?

The original contracts might account for likeness in a music release, but merchandise is a different animal and not often negotiated in perpetuity.

My guess is when Pophouse bought KISS (catalog, images, IP) it did not include rights to any members but Paul & Gene. For a release with limited commercial appeal, why pay more to make it happen?

RicksPickWrangler wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:23 pm My guess is when Pophouse bought KISS (catalog, images, IP) it did not include rights to any members but Paul & Gene. For a release with limited commercial appeal, why pay more to make it happen?

Because the only people who care to buy it are people who would care about it?

For the t-shirt they should have just photoshopped Eric and Bruce as the “Catman” and “Spaceman”…problem solved

NeonKnite wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:01 am Just saw he's actually addressed this:

I love Bruce but he's always been Gene and Paul's bitch and it's unfair but welcome to Hollywood baby. Vinnie and St John were not on any pics of their The Live Off The Soundboard releases and on recent merchandise like Animalize merchandise ie t-shirts,buttons....St John was nowhere to be found. I mean let's be real Gene and Paul stopped caring about their fans a long time ago so if you are them why pay any ex member if you don't have too? It's like in the 80's especially in The Exposed video all Gene and Paul would do is shit on Ace and Peter but at the same time knowing that's where the money is most of what they talked about was Ace and Peter and when the time was right they had ZERO problem getting rid of Bruce and Eric for The Reunion dollars.

NeonKnite wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:51 pm

Danzig in the Dark wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:11 am

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:10 am

lying?

Money?

The original contracts might account for likeness in a music release, but merchandise is a different animal and not often negotiated in perpetuity.

Thanks, NeonShite

RicksPickWrangler wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:23 pm My guess is when Pophouse bought KISS (catalog, images, IP) it did not include rights to any members but Paul & Gene. For a release with limited commercial appeal, why pay more to make it happen?

I'd bet they didn't even ask.

Rumor has it the next release is going to be a reissue of all four solo albums with Ace and Peter's faces cropped out of their respective albums and all their parts rerecorded.

Domino wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:10 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWd23G1PW4c

Around 3 min mark Gene speaking about Asylum:
"I just listened to a mix, and I think it's the best record we've ever done."

lol