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[ozzyrulz777]

Edge won.
A sucky ending to a great ppv.

[Sabu]

Edge won.
A sucky ending to a great ppv.

In your little opinion, perhaps. Cena got knocked off, millions of kids cried themselves to sleep tonight. I'm feeling pretty damn good about that EC.

Both EC matches were great. From the time Cena came in, that last match was awesome. Him eating the three finishers and getting eliminated was something nobody saw coming. Great job. Mysterio and Edge had an awesome final five minutes there. The near falls were all believable that Mysterio may actually pull it off. People complain that the shows are too predictable, well NOBODY saw that ending coming. Good job on what really should have been nothing more than a throwaway PPV leading to Mania.

If WWE knows how to do anything, it's market Wrestlemania. And that show last night makes you have to watch RAW tonight to see exactly what is going to happen with the belt as they begin the push to Mania. Does Edge move to RAW? That I like... Does Steph bring The H and his belt over to RAW to get back at Orton? That I don't like. Does Orton get sent to SamckDown as punishment? Does Snitsky come in tonight and break Dino Bravo's bench press record?

Great show last night... and hopefully the HBK/JBL thing is over and done with...

[Monty610]

I think Steph will bring H over with his belt. She was obviously talking to him on the phone a few weeks back when she ended her conversation with "I love you too." Then I could possibly see her turning on H at 'Mania to front Legacy...

[ozzyrulz777]

Edge won.
A sucky ending to a great ppv.

In your little opinion, perhaps. Cena got knocked off, millions of kids cried themselves to sleep tonight. I'm feeling pretty damn good about that EC.

It was great Cena lost. But I wanted Kane, Mysterio, or Kofi to win at least. NOT EDGE!

[bigbuttskinner]

Jesus, Shane is lame.

[ozzyrulz777]

Well I guess the HBK vs. Undertaker match at WM25 will happen.

[ozzyrulz777]

Hey kid, when you grow up your gonna be WRONG!
Down goes Cena
Down goes Cena
Down goes Cena!

Edge rules....

That shit was funny. The Funks are being inducted along with Stone Cold in the Hall Of Fame. The first ECW alumni to be inducted.

[Drunken_Little_Elf]

Stephanie getting an RKO = Greatest RAW moment ever!!!

As for WM25, is anyone really looking forward to Cena/Edge Part 17 and Randy/HHH Part 22???

[Garbageman]

The Funks are being inducted along with Stone Cold in the Hall Of Fame.

So are the Von Erichs, an obvious considering it's Tejas, along with Cowboy Bill Watts and Ricky Steamboat.

[ozzyrulz777]

I liked RAW tonight a lot.

[Subhuman Yeti]

JAPW in the WSJ

Indie Wrestlers Bleed for Cheers
Falling through tables for small crowds in high school gyms; the opposite end of the spectrum from the WWEArticle

By MARSHALL CROOK

It's Saturday night and Danny Lopez lies belly-up and bleeding on a wooden table. A 260-pound man jumps from 15 feet above and lands on him. Both men break through the table onto a school gymnasium floor. Referees check both for consciousness. Attendants mop up the blood around the scene. The match continues.



Professional wrestling evokes prime-time TV spectacles featuring nationally known names like Triple H and The Undertaker. This match takes place nowhere near that world. It's held at the Golden Door Charter School in Jersey City, N.J.

Mr. Lopez performs as "Dan Maff" for Jersey All-Pro Wrestling (JAPW), one of several small, independent organizations in the U.S. that offers work to those wrestling away from the sport's largest stages.

Comparing World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) to what Mr. Lopez does is like comparing Major League Baseball to the Cape Cod League. Everything is smaller, from the venues to the crowds to the paydays. No one expects TV coverage or health benefits. What little attention this sub-subculture has attracted lately comes largely on the heels of the release of "The Wrestler," a film about a fallen superstar wandering the indies.

Rows of folding chairs that double as potential weapons surround the JAPW ring. One section of pull-out bleachers is open and filled. Packs of boys scurry with sodas and pizza, discarding their cans on the floor. Tonight the crowd will peak at 400 mostly male fans.


"I've worked crowds as small as 20 people, and I've worked crowds that were 18,000," Mr. Lopez says. "You've still got to go out there and work. It's harder to work that crowd of 20." Like most professional wrestlers, Mr. Lopez has another job. Weekdays he works 12-hour shifts as a hazardous materials technician in New Jersey. This provides the income and health benefits to support his weekend hobby. Now in his 30s, Mr. Lopez has wrestled since 1999. He has moved past the point of wanting wrestling to be his life. Now it represents an extra paycheck.

Independent events provide a training ground for young wrestlers hoping to get someplace bigger and a home for older wrestlers on their way out to pasture. All involved work for minuscule pay with no job security or guarantee of safety. A wrestler can expect as little as $25 for a night's work. A surplus of wrestlers and a few slots for contracts from the big boys creates a buyer's market. Pressure to perform at a high level mirrors other sports. The use of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs by some wrestlers is an open secret in the indies, which does not have the resources to police its members.

In the gymnasium, Mr. Lopez's opponent, Danny DeManto, has just dropped him headfirst through a second table. They both sprawl on the floor among wood splinters and spilled soda. Blood from Mr. Lopez's face pools beneath him. The crowd pushes against the steel barriers and sounds its approval.


Beyond the ring a black curtain acts as an entry back to normal life. When performing, wrestlers keep to the Code of Kayfabe. An old carny term thought to derive from the Pig Latin form of "faked," kayfabe is wrestling jargon for the fictional drama of a match: the taunts, double-crosses, feuds and pre-determined outcomes which fuel professional wrestling's endless soap opera. But sworn enemies in the ring are usually drinking buddies. Backstage at JAPW, wrestlers change into costume or film DVD promos in character. Guys smoke cigarettes and practice moves in a freight entrance.

Back onstage, the more dangerous the stunts, the more the crowd reacts. The wrestlers know better than to expect insurance – the best they get on this night is a registered nurse on staff. During Mr. Lopez's bloody mess of a match, the crowd breaks into chants of "This is awesome" when they witness something spectacular, like Mr. Lopez's head going through a table. By the time the match ends, Mr. Lopez has lost the fight but won the crowd.

Down the hall, another wrestler preps for the night's main event. Benny Cuntapay is 29 and has wrestled for 10 years. He retired for most of 2008 but is making his return to JAPW. Mr. Cuntapay calls himself a "weekday warrior." He claims to make enough money on the independent circuit to pay his living expenses, which makes him a rarity in the indie world. As a headliner, he might make between $500 and $1,000 a night.

Mr. Cuntapay – aka B-Boy, the New Age Punisher – bounds into the ring. Once he removes his black ski-mask, he wanders the ring like a corralled animal, giving the audience a glare. The audience responds by chanting "Welcome back." In character, B-Boy pauses: He's appreciative, but ready to fight. Still, for a split second Mr. Cuntapay looks like he's using all his strength to keep from grinning.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122963256639519363.html

[Rainbow Bright]

My sister/room-mate is going to catch whatever the WWF(E) films on a Tuesday. I'm thinking on telling her to pack a sign that states "Al Snow thinks Fernandez got jobbed."

[Ziggy Sawdust]

crotch grabbing bump...

[bigbuttskinner]

Well I guess the HBK vs. Undertaker match at WM25 will happen.

Anyone think HBK is going to give Undertaker his first Wrestlemania loss?

[Monty610]

Well I guess the HBK vs. Undertaker match at WM25 will happen.

Anyone think HBK is going to give Undertaker his first Wrestlemania loss?

Possibly...I'd love to be privy to the politics involved in booking that match.

Though honestly I think the streak will continue until 'Taker is ready to retire...

[Subhuman Yeti]

Anyone think HBK is going to give Undertaker his first Wrestlemania loss?

Shawn will job...



Financially, Undertakers streak is too much of a draw to end.

[Sabu]

Shawn: Taker, I think I should end your streak at Mania this year.

*Taker tapes fists*

[Sabu]

That shit was funny. The Funks are being inducted along with Stone Cold in the Hall Of Fame. The first ECW alumni to be inducted.

Former ECW Champions Jimmy Snuka, Magnificent Muraco, and Tito Santana would like to have a word with you. As would Eddy Guerrero...

[ozzyrulz777]

That shit was funny. The Funks are being inducted along with Stone Cold in the Hall Of Fame. The first ECW alumni to be inducted.

Former ECW Champions Jimmy Snuka, Magnificent Muraco, and Tito Santana would like to have a word with you. As would Eddy Guerrero...

Dude I totally forgot about them. Sorry. And there is 2 ECW alumni in this year including Stone Cold.

[ozzyrulz777]

If that happens I will be pissed.

[LynnrdVonHetfield]

I thought Raw was mildly entertaining.

Triple H at the end looked absolutely ridiculous, I'm sure that is what he looks like in a full blown 'roid rage.

I still can't stand Cody Rhodes, DiBiase is growing on me. Orton is great right now, I'm just not sure that he generates the kind of heat that Vince wants. Similar to post N.O.D. Rock.

I think this will be the first year in several I spend the cash and order 'Mania.

[Sabu]

Shawn: Taker, I think I should end your streak at Mania this year.

*Taker tapes fists*

somehow i don't see this happeneing if you've read bret harts books... undertaker was one of the shitmans supporters... if UT loses expect him to be done with the WWE via screwjob.

I was implying there was no way Taker would do the job to Michaels at Mania. The fist taping reference is to the story/legend in regards to how in a backstage meeting where they were discussing Michaels dropping the belt to Austin at Mania 14. Michaels supposedly didn't want to and Taker, who was taping his fists up, supposedly said that if Shawn didn't change his mind by the time he was done taping his fists, he would change it for him.

True or not... that story rules.

[ozzyrulz777]

Shawn: Taker, I think I should end your streak at Mania this year.

*Taker tapes fists*

somehow i don't see this happeneing if you've read bret harts books... undertaker was one of the shitmans supporters... if UT loses expect him to be done with the WWE via screwjob.

I was implying there was no way Taker would do the job to Michaels at Mania. The fist taping reference is to the story/legend in regards to how in a backstage meeting where they were discussing Michaels dropping the belt to Austin at Mania 14. Michaels supposedly didn't want to and Taker, who was taping his fists up, supposedly said that if Shawn didn't change his mind by the time he was done taping his fists, he would change it for him.

True or not... that story rules.

That does.

[ozzyrulz777]

Also ECW was mildly entertaining.

[Drunken_Little_Elf]

Shawn: Taker, I think I should end your streak at Mania this year.

*Taker tapes fists*

I was implying there was no way Taker would do the job to Michaels at Mania. The fist taping reference is to the story/legend in regards to how in a backstage meeting where they were discussing Michaels dropping the belt to Austin at Mania 14. Michaels supposedly didn't want to and Taker, who was taping his fists up, supposedly said that if Shawn didn't change his mind by the time he was done taping his fists, he would change it for him.

True or not... that story rules.

Taker says it happened. Shawn says it didn't. I don't know about you, but I know who I believe.

[ozzyrulz777]

As much as I like Michaels I believe Undertaker.

[LAglamrocker]

what streak will end at Wrestmaqnia 25..HHH losing streak in Main Events he's up to 5 right?

the streak of "Mr Wrestlemania" getting a meaningful win at Mania..since Y2J. but Y2J "won" he stole the show

Taker vs JBL at Mania for sure, no way JBL loses on Raw..the person that cause's HBK to lose will be his match at Mania

anyone else see Flair and Micky R vs Y2J and someone else at Mania...

2 years in a row of Cena losing at Mania, I can only hope!

[bigbuttskinner]

what streak will end at Wrestmaqnia 25..HHH losing streak in Main Events he's up to 5 right?

the streak of "Mr Wrestlemania" getting a meaningful win at Mania..since Y2J. but Y2J "won" he stole the show

Taker vs JBL at Mania for sure, no way JBL loses on Raw..the person that cause's HBK to lose will be his match at Mania

anyone else see Flair and Micky R vs Y2J and someone else at Mania...

2 years in a row of Cena losing at Mania, I can only hope!

Are you having a laugh? No way it's JBL vs. Taker at WM25. Shawn will definitely be matched with Undertaker. I do agree with you, however, on the Flair/Rourke vs Y2J/??? match. That would be sweet. But who in the hell wants to team with Jericho? Well, since JBL WON'T be wrestling Taker, maybe he will do it.

[ozzyrulz777]

I just cannot wait for Wrestlemania.

[ultraphobic71]

Thank the almighty god that CHRISTIAN is back in the WWE!Now God,just make Vince McMahon sign Petey Williams to a contract!