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[Subhuman Yeti]

RVD is possibly the most overrated guy of the past 15 years or so.

Let me guess,your right hand misses Buff Bagwell.

...never a fan.
There was absolutely nothing to like.
As with most of WCW back then, under several different bookers.


Even the middle-aged twats with any brains who watched WCW and wanted to fuck Bagwell thought his workrate completely sucked and knew he was a worthless, overpaid, nearly braindead, fucking asshole in the ring and a spineless fucking pussy outside of it.


I had almost forgotten Buff Bagwell even existed, but since you brought him up, it's obvious that you still think about him.


So how fucking pathetic does that make you, eh dumb cunt???

[Subhuman Yeti]

So none of you fucking dumbshits who hate RVD can make a list of 10 wrestlers you would book over him in any promotion... and hope you don't get further ridiculed for your fucking stupidity even more.. eh?


Ya can throw shit for brains Bagwell and Cena insults out, make stupid comments, self-quote your own fucking stupidity and then look even more like a total jackass... but when forced to... you can't actually fucking think worth a fucking shit.


...and try not to name pathetic fucking dinosaurs that the WWE, WCW and TNA haven't shoved down the publics throats for too many years ... most of which still didn't get actually OVER anyway.



Praise for JBL???


I was right, you are FUCKING STUPID.

[ultraphobic71]

So none of you fucking dumbshits who hate RVD can make a list of 10 wrestlers you would book over him in any promotion... and hope you don't get further ridiculed for your fucking stupidity even more.. eh?


Ya can throw shit for brains Bagwell and Cena insults out, make stupid comments, self-quote your own fucking stupidity and then look even more like a total jackass... but when forced to... you can't actually fucking think worth a fucking shit.


...and try not to name pathetic fucking dinosaurs that the WWE, WCW and TNA haven't shoved down the publics throats for too many years ... most of which still didn't get actually OVER anyway.



Praise for JBL???


I was right, you are FUCKING STUPID.

I'm sorry.It was your left hand that misses Buff Bagwell,isn't it?

[Sabu]

yeti methinks you doth protest a wee bit too much about your alleged mancrush for Buff's stuff.. i never understood his push either and him joining the NWO was one of those things that started to kill WCW... i mean i would have pegged him not kanyon as the first openly gay wrestler...

If memory serves... didn't Bagwell join the NWO, or turn heel, right after he came back from his neck injury?

Rule #1. When a borderline guy returns from a serious injury, try to push him to the moon as a face. Fans may get on board with the sympathy push...

That said... I never found anything at all appealing about Buff Bagwell...

[OverMe]

Heres some pics from ECW/Monday Night Raw last night


http://photobucket.com/wwemnr

[YYC]

Other than a few funny bits with Steiner, Buff was absolutely worthless.

Speaking strictly in WWE talent, I currently enjoy all of the following more than RVD:
Jericho
Morrison
HBK
Santino
Christian
Edge
Jeff Hardy
Orton
Jack Swagger
Brian Kendrick
If you wanna talk outside WWE, Austin Aries, Low-Ki, Alex Shelley, Sabin, Brian Danielson, the Brisco Brothers (to some extent), and Samoa Joe all have impressed me more than RVD ever has.
Obviously all of those guys are not better workers than RVD, I just find them more entertaining.

I never said that RVD wasn't over or that he should be jobbed out, or that he is without ability. I just said that in my opinion he's overrated by a lot of internet smarks, especially in regards to his in-ring talent. A lot of those same smarks seem to have selective memory about ECW as well. ECW had some great stuff, but it also had some shit as well. New Jack and Mikey Whipwreck spring immediately to mind.

[silent_eyes]

yeti methinks you doth protest a wee bit too much about your alleged mancrush for Buff's stuff.. i never understood his push either and him joining the NWO was one of those things that started to kill WCW... i mean i would have pegged him not kanyon as the first openly gay wrestler...

If memory serves... didn't Bagwell join the NWO, or turn heel, right after he came back from his neck injury?

Rule #1. When a borderline guy returns from a serious injury, try to push him to the moon as a face. Fans may get on board with the sympathy push...

That said... I never found anything at all appealing about Buff Bagwell...

I still get a laugh when I think of the night on Raw when Vince had just bought WCW and was asking the crowd who he should bring in...

And who's name got the biggest reaction? Sting? Goldberg? Hogan?

That's right... Buff Bagwell!

[Garbageman]

Koko B. Ware in the hall of fame?

What's next... TNA signing Danny Bonaduce?

[ozzyrulz777]

Anybody else watching ECW right now. Tonight is the final match for a Money In The Bank entrance and the match is a Battle Royal. Hopefully Tommy Dreamer or Christian wins the match. The match will feature superstars from all 3 brands.

[Angry Jew]

Anybody else watching ECW right now. Tonight is the final match for a Money In The Bank entrance and the match is a Battle Royal. Hopefully Tommy Dreamer or Christian wins the match. The match will feature superstars from all 3 brands.

We already know who won. It was taped last night. I won't spoil it for you though.

[ozzyrulz777]

Christian goes to Money In The Bank.

[ultraphobic71]

Christian goes to Money In The Bank.

There is a God!!Oh btw,about the Buff stuff.Remember when Vince Russo went to WCW?He actually believe that Buff will be bigger than the Rock.Talk about missing the mark.

[ozzyrulz777]

I am excited for Wrestlemania.

[Angry Jew]

http://www.honkytonkman.moonfruit.com/

[LAglamrocker]

besides the 2 Main Events Wrestmania 25 could be great, sucks for Rey a 3rd straight Wrestlemania without him

Koko in the Hall Of Fame of course he is, the dude was super over with the fans, I remember going to Superstars and Challenge tapings and getting to see Koko 2 or 3 times a night!

Koko was huge, if he were around today with all the titles, he would have been a multiple IC,US, Tag Team Champ
don't hate the Birdman, he is a legend and Honky Tonk Man doing the speech F*CKING Awesome!!

putting Cena in 2 straight triple threat matches..boring enjoy your "win"...just means a Cena loss hopefully at Wrestmania 26 Destruction in the Desert

10,000 seats left means what 60,000 of 70,000 sold! the walk up for Wrestlmania the last 2 years have been around 10,000 i would bet

[nakedmadman]

No, actually, it doesn't suck for Rey. I'm tired of that little midget and his "giant killer" act. The ONLY way I could get into Mysterio now would be for the WWE to reinstate the Cruiser Weight belt, give the strap to Evan Bourne, then have Rey-Rey turn heel and feud it out over the title.

[Monty610]

No, actually, it doesn't suck for Rey. I'm tired of that little midget and his "giant killer" act. The ONLY way I could get into Mysterio now would be for the WWE to reinstate the Cruiser Weight belt, give the strap to Evan Bourne, then have Rey-Rey turn heel and feud it out over the title.

This.

I have never "got" Rey Mysterio. I've always found him extremely boring and just a spot-monkey in the ring. I know I know, blasphemy. But he does nothing for me. In fact, the most entertaining thing Rey ever did was getting thrown into the WCW production trailer like a lawn dart by Kevin Nash...

[Kid-Wicked]

besides the 2 Main Events Wrestmania 25 could be great, sucks for Rey a 3rd straight Wrestlemania without him

Koko in the Hall Of Fame of course he is, the dude was super over with the fans, I remember going to Superstars and Challenge tapings and getting to see Koko 2 or 3 times a night!

Koko was huge, if he were around today with all the titles, he would have been a multiple IC,US, Tag Team Champ
don't hate the Birdman, he is a legend and Honky Tonk Man doing the speech F*CKING Awesome!!

putting Cena in 2 straight triple threat matches..boring enjoy your "win"...just means a Cena loss hopefully at Wrestmania 26 Destruction in the Desert

10,000 seats left means what 60,000 of 70,000 sold! the walk up for Wrestlmania the last 2 years have been around 10,000 i would bet

not a fucking chance he should be in there before dynamite, owen or davey boy smith.

[bigbuttskinner]

I have never "got" Rey Mysterio. I've always found him extremely boring and just a spot-monkey in the ring. I know I know, blasphemy. But he does nothing for me. In fact, the most entertaining thing Rey ever did was getting thrown into the WCW production trailer like a lawn dart by Kevin Nash...

HAHA! That was hilarious when it happened. I actually like Rey a good bit, but I've never forgotten about that either.

[ozzyrulz777]

I like Rey's ECW career more than any of his other jaunts with other companies.

[Machado]

Question for all the people that followed
WCW and listened to Gordon Solie on TBS

Remember The Super Destroyers?
They once gave a vicious beating to Tommy Rich.
I want to say the same duo also broke
Ted Dibiase's neck during a match as well.
Anyway, who were the guys behind the mask
and didn't they eventually become "The Wrecking Crew" in the AWA
around '89 or '90?

Remember The Assasins?
Who were those guys as well?
I remember once there was an exciting, bloody match between Assasin 1 or 2 vs Mr Wrestling 2 on TBS.

[Kid-Wicked]

http://www.superdestroyers.com/page3.html

[Sabu]

i also used to love how nash and hall called beniot and eddie vanilla Midgets.... it's pretty obvious in retrospect that eddie and beniot couldn't take of themselves much less draw money for either company.

I don't know what kind of numbers Benoit did... but Eddie was a great draw for WWE and moved a ton of merch. And in retrospect, I don't think it mattered what kind of numbers Benoit did, his value was that you knew you were going to get a main event that delivered with him in it, he made his opponents look like gold, and he was super over towards the end.

[Sabu]

I don't get much of the Rey hype anymore either. Since RVD was mentioned I think it would be pretty fair to compare the two of them as pretty much the same exact wrestler in WWE. They had their spots they did every match, and you could pretty much call exactly when they were going to come, and they rarely strayed away from their routines.

That said... WWE fans paid money to see RVD do the split-legged moonsault, rolling thunder, the spinning heel kick, the Five-Star, and point his thumbs at himself. If it ain't broke...

Same thing goes for Rey. He basically has the same formula every match. Good offense early where he attacks the bigger guy's legs, bigger guy gets contrl and beats the snot out of him for 5-10 minutes, Rey hurricaranas his way out of said big guy's finisher, said big guys falls over the middle rope, 619, match over. It's tired, but it works for him and the fans eat it up.

The same can be said for Jeff Hardy. His matches and spots are pretty much identical.

Shelton Benjamin > RVD, Rey, Jeff Hardy

As for MITB. I know they need somewhere to put guys like Kane, and in fairness I think having one guy like him in the match adds a nice different dimension... but I'm pissed we didn't get my MITB of Shelton, Jeff, Matt, Helms, Bourne, Rey, Christian, and Morrison MITB match.

[Garbageman]

i also used to love how nash and hall called beniot and eddie vanilla Midgets.... it's pretty obvious in retrospect that eddie and beniot couldn't take of themselves much less draw money for either company.

I believe the "Vanilla Midget" term was directed more towards Benoit and Dean Malenko when they were in the Horsemen and not towards Guerrero.

As Sabu said, Eddie moved a ton of merch and was really over with a lot of people. Some people forget how big the Latino market is for the WWE, especially in Texas & the Southwest, and he drew them in by the thousands.

[Shinerrox]

i also used to love how nash and hall called beniot and eddie vanilla Midgets.... it's pretty obvious in retrospect that eddie and beniot couldn't take of themselves much less draw money for either company.

I believe the "Vanilla Midget" term was directed more towards Benoit and Dean Malenko when they were in the Horsemen and not towards Guerrero.

As Sabu said, Eddie moved a ton of merch and was really over with a lot of people. Some people forget how big the Latino market is for the WWE, especially in Texas & the Southwest, and he drew them in by the thousands.

Yo Trashy, When you lived in Houston did you ever go to any Fiestas?
The faux flea markets outside carry a shitload of bootleg WWE Merch...
Most notably, ReyRey... And for some strange reason, they still have Eddie G. merch as well...

[Angry Jew]

Latest rumor is JBL to retire at Mania. Maybe thats why they gave him the IC strap to complete the Grand Slam championship. I don't hate him like a lot of people do and I hope he goes back to announcing. Michael Cole is so bad. I think I prefer Grisham to him.

[bobbystoney]

besides the 2 Main Events Wrestmania 25 could be great, sucks for Rey a 3rd straight Wrestlemania without him

Koko in the Hall Of Fame of course he is, the dude was super over with the fans, I remember going to Superstars and Challenge tapings and getting to see Koko 2 or 3 times a night!

Koko was huge, if he were around today with all the titles, he would have been a multiple IC,US, Tag Team Champ
don't hate the Birdman, he is a legend and Honky Tonk Man doing the speech F*CKING Awesome!!

putting Cena in 2 straight triple threat matches..boring enjoy your "win"...just means a Cena loss hopefully at Wrestmania 26 Destruction in the Desert

10,000 seats left means what 60,000 of 70,000 sold! the walk up for Wrestlmania the last 2 years have been around 10,000 i would bet

not a fucking chance he should be in there before dynamite, owen or davey boy smith.

...or RAZOR f'n RAMON, mang!

[Sabu]

Obviously there's politics behind all the inductees. Bruno deserves to be in there before anybody else, yet it will probably never happen while he's still alive. Backlund also... although I know a couple years ago he had turned down the offer because he felt he still had one more full time run in him.

Koko is just another of those lower level names that does deserve a nod. It looks like they want the two big names every year and then fill the rest of the slots with the names that aren't exactly mainstream anymore that Koko fits into.

There's a lot of guys who fall into that level that Koko is in. Not big enough names where they won't get in except as part of a group that has a huge name, or someone that is huge in the area.

With Savage and Warrior... I think it may be more of a case of Vince not wanting them in front of a microphone for fear they may use the opportunity to rip him and WWE to shreds more than anything else.

I believe Dynamite has said he won't travel to the States ever again. Hence why he hasn't been inducted yet. Although his openess about drug use in the business probably doesn't help matters either.

[Drunken_Little_Elf]

I believe Dynamite has said he won't travel to the States ever again. Hence why he hasn't been inducted yet. Although his openess about drug use in the business probably doesn't help matters either.

To be fair, that's kind of hypocritical when they are inducting a man who beat his wife a few years ago.