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[tin00can]

Santana and Lackey (especially Lackey) just had good rehab starts, I can see them being back in the rotation within two weeks. Hell yeah!

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

I found this online for your viewing pleasure


Lots of e-mails today from fans who were part of a ruckus outside the Stadium when apparently some team employees told people the game was called.

Can you describe the ruckus?

It was more of a brouhaha than a ruckus.

[tin00can]

I found this online for your viewing pleasure


Lots of e-mails today from fans who were part of a ruckus outside the Stadium when apparently some team employees told people the game was called.

Can you describe the ruckus?

It was more of a brouhaha than a ruckus.

Whenever I hear or see the word "ruckus" it always goes back to that.

[killeverything]

Santana and Lackey (especially Lackey) just had good rehab starts, I can see them being back in the rotation within two weeks. Hell yeah!

I've been following the AL West a lot lately. I found some interesting tidbits on LAAAAAAA. Check it.

Despite using 18 pitchers already and having only 4 regulars with OPS+s over 81, the Angels have managed to hang in there and are just 3 games back, at 11-13.

Some key performances from unexpected places have helped. Shane Loux has been almost average. Matt Palmer has two solid starts. Anthony Ortega held the Yankees to 3 ER in 6 and a third innings in his second major league start. These players have helped make up for the obviously depleted starting rotation and the struggling top of the bullpen depth chart: Despite great peripherals, Brian Fuentes and Jose Arredondo have allowed 15 ER in 21.2 IP. And Scot Shields has continued to struggle and now has allowed 9 runs and 17 baserunners in 9.1 IP with just 4 strikeouts.

On the offensive side, Mike Napoli and Torii Hunter are carrying the team. Napoli has 4 HR and a 1.165 OPS while Hunter has 8 HR and a 1.043 OPS. Beyond that, there's no much. Abreu and Kendry Morales are about average, and Chone Figgins is drawing walks and stealing bases, but beyond that the offense is a vortex of suck, to use a cliché.

On the bright side, Brandon Wood was finally called up, but he has only appeared in three games in the week since. He's 3-9 with a walk during that time. But if he's just going to sit on the bench, why is he there?

Finally, Lackey and Santana have been throwing in Rancho Cucamonga and extended spring training, respectively, so while each may need another start or two they should be back in the majors by the end of the month. With no one in the division taking advantage of the Angels' injuries, it's still right there for the taking.


I was thinking this would be the time to "pounce" . With the rash of injuries they've been under knock em' back a little bit. At least make them have to fight to win the Division this year. Only 3 back? Impressive.

[Machado]

for the chowder-heads.
pavano is scheduled to start tonight.

please predict his pitching line here:

[killeverything]

for the chowder-heads.
pavano is scheduled to start tonight.

please predict his pitching line here:

Considering in two of his starts against Boston ( Marlins and MFY ) he was lit up for 19 runs, I'm not too worried about squeaking out a 'W' against him. Especially since Cleveland MIGHT be the only team in baseball with a worse bullpen than NY.

I think his line will be a lot like Chevy Player Of The Game losing pitcher.....Joba The Fat. 5 and 2/3IP 4R 2BB minus the strikeouts, and generous strike zone.

[JakeYonkel]

Oh getta outta here kill. Joba was squeezed almost as bad as Hughes the night before (well, OK, it's impossible to be nearly as bad as that).

There were a few times when I literally had to say HUH??? out loud because of a non-call of a blatant pitch down the middle.

Not that the ump was helping Beckett, he was squeezing the hell out of Joba. The pitch that struck out Pedroia in the 4th or 5th was definitely questionable, but the one before it he had him and the ump blew it, so it evened out.

[killeverything]

Oh getta outta here kill. Joba was squeezed almost as bad as Hughes the night before (well, OK, it's impossible to be nearly as bad as that).

There were a few times when I literally had to say HUH??? out loud because of a non-call of a blatant pitch down the middle.

Not that the ump was helping Beckett, he was squeezing the hell out of Joba. The pitch that struck out Pedroia in the 4th or 5th was definitely questionable, but the one before it he had him and the ump blew it, so it evened out.

I think Hughes got fucked his start too. Lester benefited greatly on that one.

As for Joba getting squeezed? Are you high. The majority of his 12Ks were outside! Here look:



I'm starting to hate Chamberlain. He headhunts, jumps up and down fist-pumping in the fifth....leaving with his team down. Glares at the ump. The guy is a piece of shit. It's no one's fault but his own he served up a meatball to Bay and he made him pay. As a MFY fan, you should be pissed he put another runner on for your BP, that shit was intentional.

Oh well, its gonna be funny. There will be a retaliation for his actions. Not by disciplinary commisioner "Yankee" Bob Watson. We'll see it on the field.

[JakeYonkel]

He didn't hit Bay on purpose. It was the 5th inning, his pitch count was starting to push 100, and by hitting Bay he put a runner (Ortiz) into scoring position with Lowell coming up, who's killed the Yankees. Doesn't add up.

Even Bay knew better, he glanced at him for a split second before realizing "why would he hit me in this situation?"

Regardless, if he hits Youkilis 10 times this year I won't feel much pity after the way the Red Sox have hit Yankee batters the last few years. No Yankees pitcher has had the balls to retaliate, in part because Torre was always too much of a pussy to order it.

As for jumping around and acting like a moron, look, I don't like it either. But he's a high-intensity guy. I don't like to see Papelbon doing that bullshit either. But hey, you don't want him to do it, then beat him, I guess.

[killeverything]

He didn't hit Bay on purpose. It was the 5th inning, his pitch count was starting to push 100, and by hitting Bay he put a runner (Ortiz) into scoring position with Lowell coming up, who's killed the Yankees. Doesn't add up.

Even Bay knew better, he glanced at him for a split second before realizing "why would he hit me in this situation?"

Regardless, if he hits Youkilis 10 times this year I won't feel much pity after the way the Red Sox have hit Yankee batters the last few years. No Yankees pitcher has had the balls to retaliate, in part because Torre was always too much of a pussy to order it.

As for jumping around and acting like a moron, look, I don't like it either. But he's a high-intensity guy. I don't like to see Papelbon doing that bullshit either. But hey, you don't want him to do it, then beat him, I guess.

I'm getting sick and fucking tired of Pappelbon myself. Yeah, it's badass to have a closer that good. Not that I'm complaining mind you. The antics are starting to piss me off.

Oh well, when his arb-years are up, he'll be gone. He will leave to chase the big paycheck. He's said it, and well.....I don't blame him. Still sick of his antics though.

As for beating Joba, they did.

[tin00can]

He didn't hit Bay on purpose. It was the 5th inning, his pitch count was starting to push 100, and by hitting Bay he put a runner (Ortiz) into scoring position with Lowell coming up, who's killed the Yankees. Doesn't add up.

Even Bay knew better, he glanced at him for a split second before realizing "why would he hit me in this situation?"

Regardless, if he hits Youkilis 10 times this year I won't feel much pity after the way the Red Sox have hit Yankee batters the last few years. No Yankees pitcher has had the balls to retaliate, in part because Torre was always too much of a pussy to order it.

As for jumping around and acting like a moron, look, I don't like it either. But he's a high-intensity guy. I don't like to see Papelbon doing that bullshit either. But hey, you don't want him to do it, then beat him, I guess.

I'm getting sick and fucking tired of Pappelbon myself. Yeah, it's badass to have a closer that good. Not that I'm complaining mind you. The antics are starting to piss me off.

Oh well, when his arb-years are up, he'll be gone. He will leave to chase the big paycheck. He's said it, and well.....I don't blame him. Still sick of his antics though.

As for beating Joba, they did.

Funny. A lot of Angels fans were sick of K-Rod's antics. Now we have Fuentes. Fuck.

As for the umps, it seems like the strike zone universally SUCkS this year. It is horrible. No consistency between umps or even between INNINGS. It is way past ridiculous and it is happening to every team.

[killeverything]

He didn't hit Bay on purpose. It was the 5th inning, his pitch count was starting to push 100, and by hitting Bay he put a runner (Ortiz) into scoring position with Lowell coming up, who's killed the Yankees. Doesn't add up.

Even Bay knew better, he glanced at him for a split second before realizing "why would he hit me in this situation?"

Regardless, if he hits Youkilis 10 times this year I won't feel much pity after the way the Red Sox have hit Yankee batters the last few years. No Yankees pitcher has had the balls to retaliate, in part because Torre was always too much of a pussy to order it.

As for jumping around and acting like a moron, look, I don't like it either. But he's a high-intensity guy. I don't like to see Papelbon doing that bullshit either. But hey, you don't want him to do it, then beat him, I guess.

I'm getting sick and fucking tired of Pappelbon myself. Yeah, it's badass to have a closer that good. Not that I'm complaining mind you. The antics are starting to piss me off.

Oh well, when his arb-years are up, he'll be gone. He will leave to chase the big paycheck. He's said it, and well.....I don't blame him. Still sick of his antics though.

As for beating Joba, they did.

Funny. A lot of Angels fans were sick of K-Rod's antics. Now we have Fuentes. Fuck.

As for the umps, it seems like the strike zone universally SUCkS this year. It is horrible. No consistency between umps or even between INNINGS. It is way past ridiculous and it is happening to every team.

I think that Anaheim wasn't going to re-sign K-Rod to begin with. I didn't understand that one myself, Moreno seems to close the wallet on players he should open it for. I really didn't understand Fuentes. A NL closer from the weakest Division in baseball? Good luck with that.

This strike zone shit is pissing me off. The Myers start against San Diego had me going what the fuck, on more than a few calls.

Also all these two game series can fuck right off too.

[UtahRatt]

Dodgers set modern record for home start, 13-0 in LA.

21: Chicago White Stockings (Cubs), 1880.
18: Detroit Wolverines, 1886.
16: St. Louis Maroons, 1884.
14: Chicago White Stockings (Cubs), 1885.
13: Los Angeles Dodgers, 2009.
12: New York Gothams (SF Giants), 1884.
12: Detroit Tigers, 1911.

[GrayAntiMatter]

Man, look how far you have to go back to find when the Cubs where worth a shit...

[UtahRatt]

Man, look how far you have to go back to find when the Cubs where worth a shit...

Ya but they did win a World Series as recently as a 101 years ago so that's gotta account for something.

[Machado]

how in the world did pavano go 6 innings last night and give up just
2 runs? can someone please explain that to me? i'm glad the sox lost, but
to see pavano get a win makes me sick.

the situation with bay and Joba is ridiculous.
bay has owned the Yankees this year and in this same game, he hit a 3 run home run.
so yeah, Joba probably did go up & in to send him a message, get him off the plate.
the ball hit bay in the back-big fucking deal. go to 1st base and without the glare
towards the mound, thank you very much.

since when are the red sox are entitled to whine and cry about hitters getting beaned, while for the last 9 years their pitchers have been beaning our players
over and over and over again.

[JakeYonkel]

My thoughts for the first month of the season:

http://thebaseballdude.blogspot.com/

[Machado]

50 games for manny.

peter "the southie homer" gammons is already on record as saying he does
not believe this has anything to do with HGH. time will tell if he is correct.

The Los Angeles Dodgers star said he did not take steroids and was prescribed medication by a doctor that contained a banned substance. The commissioner's office didn't announce the specific violation by the 36-year-old outfielder, who apologized to the Dodgers and fans for "this whole situation."

However, two sources told ESPN's T.J. Quinn and Mark Fainaru-Wada that the drug used by Ramirez is hCG -- human chorionic gonadotropin. HCG is a women's fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body's natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO.

"Recently, I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me," Ramirez said in a statement issued by the players' union.

"Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I've taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons."

A source with intimate knowledge of steroids told ESPN that a male athlete usually uses HCG after a cycle of steroids because steroids often shut down the testosterone-making ability of the testicles. HCG restores their capacity to make testosterone. The source said that some males may use HCG in lieu of steroids also. HCG by itself can provide a substantial boost in the bodies own testosterone, and this may provide some performance-enhancement benefits.

[killeverything]

how in the world did pavano go 6 innings last night and give up just
2 runs? can someone please explain that to me? i'm glad the sox lost, but
to see pavano get a win makes me sick.

Oh come on now, that couldn't have angered you more than seeing him shut down the MFY.

[killeverything]

I have some bad news.

Dominic Dimaggio passed away this morning at 1am.





"The Little Professor" played his entire 11-year career with the Sox, making his debut on opening day in 1940 and earning selection to the AL All-Star Team in 1941 and 1942. Like many players of his era, he lost what might have been his career peak seasons to World War II, serving in the US Coast Guard for three years (ages 26-27-28). While serving in the Pacific, he played on several U.S. Navy All-Star teams, and appeared in the same outfield with older brothers Joe and Vince on three occasions.

Upon his return, he reclamed the center field job with the Red Sox for the next seven seasons from 1946 through 1952, and was named an All-Star again in five of those years. He lost his starting role to 23-year-old Jimmy Piersall in 1953, and appeared in just three games as a pinch-hitter that season before retiring in May at age 36. He remains one of the most successful lead-off hitters in Red Sox history, and finished his career with a .298 BA, .383 OBP, 100 SB and 1,046 runs scored. His 34-game hitting streak in 1949 remains a team record, and he also fashioned a 27-game streak in 1951. Dom scored 100 or more runs 7 times, leading the league twice. He also finished in the Top 10 in the AL batting race three times, including a third-place finish in 1950 with a career-high .328 average.

Dom's exit from the game coincided with his soaring fortunes as a businessman. With two partners, he bought American Latex in Lawrence MA, eventually becoming the sole proprietor. He later acquired Delaware Valley Corporation, turning it into one of the nation's leading manufacturers of synthetic fabrics. He also invested in and developed commercial real estate across the country, including DiMaggio's Restaurant on Fisherman's Wharf in his hometown of San Francisco. Dom further cemented his sports legacy in New England by co-founding the Boston Patriots of the American Football League.

On October 24, 2004, he joined his former teammates Bobby Doerr and Johnny Pesky to throw out the ceremonial first pitches prior to Game 2 of the World Series.



RIP

[Machado]

how in the world did pavano go 6 innings last night and give up just
2 runs? can someone please explain that to me? i'm glad the sox lost, but
to see pavano get a win makes me sick.

Oh come on now, that couldn't have angered you more than seeing him shut down the MFY.

Did he really shut us down? I just remember he did not get the win, so I guess
the Yankees did just a bit better in the match-up.

A-Rod is back today. Is he the cure? I hope so.
Our starting pitching needs to improve greatly. None of this 6 innings crap. Need them to go at least 7, maybe even 8 innings. Getting on a winning streak all starts
with them.

[JakeYonkel]

So Francisco Cervelli is the new starting catcher for the Yankees.

I wonder if Girardi is furiously trying to work himself back into shape.

[killeverything]

how in the world did pavano go 6 innings last night and give up just
2 runs? can someone please explain that to me? i'm glad the sox lost, but
to see pavano get a win makes me sick.

Oh come on now, that couldn't have angered you more than seeing him shut down the MFY.

Did he really shut us down? I just remember he did not get the win, so I guess
the Yankees did just a bit better in the match-up.

A-Rod is back today. Is he the cure? I hope so.
Our starting pitching needs to improve greatly. None of this 6 innings crap. Need them to go at least 7, maybe even 8 innings. Getting on a winning streak all starts
with them.

No.

They did not do "just a bit better in the matchup." They were fucked until it came to the bullpen. I thought it was hysterical that Pavano did so well against them.

Cleveland, Anaheim and NY are fighting eachother to see who's bullpen sucks more.

[Machado]

It could be that pavano planned to pitch his best against teams from
the A.L. east??? It's possible.

[Machado]

So Francisco Cervelli is the new starting catcher for the Yankees.

I wonder if Girardi is furiously trying to work himself back into shape.

He very well could be the starting catcher. Then again, our top 2 catchers are out w/injuries.
Show me a team who's 3rd catcher can make a difference on the major league level.
FUCK!
When it rains, it pours. 1st Posada goes out and now Molina just might with a quad injury.

I read online that Kevin Cash or Chris Stewart will be called up. Since neither is on the 40 man, someone will have to be designated.

[JakeYonkel]

Well, Berroa will get DFA'd. That'll clear up a spot for Cash or Stewart. However somebody else has to go since A-Rod's coming up, too.

If I were them I'd move Nady to the 60-day DL and open up a 40 man spot.

Ramiro Pena deserves to stick as the utility infielder. Great glove and decent little hitter. They may want to send him back down to play every day, though.

[killeverything]

It could be that pavano planned to pitch his best against teams from
the A.L. east??? It's possible.

Aside from his first start, he hasn't been bad.

As for Arod's return. Damn near anything is better than the shit they've had at 3rd so far. Berrora? Please. Looking at it through rose colored glasses though is a bit extreme. Using WARP Arod's ( massive ) presence in the line-up translates to about 1.5 wins above replacement level, give or take. So NY's record would be like 14-14 instead of 13-15.

In the heat of a pennant race it would matter. In '49, '78 and '05 the MFY and Mighty Red Sox finished with identical records. I just don't see ( how their constructed now ) a .700 June playoff run coming out of them this year.

.......of course no one saw it in '07 either. So take it what it's worth.

So Francisco Cervelli is the new starting catcher for the Yankees.

I wonder if Girardi is furiously trying to work himself back into shape.

Well he couldn't be any worse.

[Machado]

Well, Berroa will get DFA'd. That'll clear up a spot for Cash or Stewart. However somebody else has to go since A-Rod's coming up, too.

If I were them I'd move Nady to the 60-day DL and open up a 40 man spot.

Ramiro Pena deserves to stick as the utility infielder. Great glove and decent little hitter. They may want to send him back down to play every day, though.

I think the moves will be:
Molina to the DL-Call up Cash or Stewart

A-Rod activated from DL, designate Berroa???

I agree, Pena deserves to stay over Berroa. He has a pretty good glove, can play SS and 3rd better than Berroa can.

[JakeYonkel]

Technically the moves are going to be to activate A-Rod and put Molina on the DL, since they're both already on the 40.

Then they'll have to purchase the contract of Stewart or Cash and DFA somebody, likely Berroa, since neither catcher is on the 40.

Just semantics, but you know.

[Machado]

Technically the moves are going to be to activate A-Rod and put Molina on the DL, since they're both already on the 40.

Then they'll have to purchase the contract of Stewart or Cash and DFA somebody, likely Berroa, since neither catcher is on the 40.

Just semantics, but you know.

fucking semantics