This is how DUMB groupies are!

[Madame Librarian]

So I was reading Pamela DesBarre's book Let's Spend the Night Together. In it, at least one groupie spoke of a hierarchy of groupies wherein if a chick is fucked on the tour bus, she's a lowlife skank, vs the glory of giving head in a hotel room. Ooooooh, he got a room, you're special.

I really think they're missing the biggest reason that the boys want to do them on the bus as opposed to in a hotel room, and that is NOT because you mean more since he sprung for a room, dumbimbos! It's because they already have their video cameras well hidden and set up exactly where they want them on the tour bus. They don't care either way where they treat you like dirt and then spit as you walk out the door. Being in a hotel room just means they won't have as good picture clarity as they would if they gave you their 5 minute "treatment" on the bus.

[rockphoto]

so where exactly do the video cameras get set up and hidden on a bus? i mean, it sounds like you would know

[SinCityQuennie]

There are groupies that are considered to be very close parts of the families while some are faceless and nameless to the bands. Those of us that are actually living the life on here know the truth. Hierarchies do exist backstage plain and simple but not necessarily in the sexual aspect that you seem to think this life is all about. It is about so much more than that to all that live it no matter what role you are playing in the scene. You don't get to the top of the groupie pecking tree with out having some respect and genuine friendship with the musicians.

If you really think that all the girls hanging out backstage are disposable whores and being filmed for personal porn, then you are just ignorant to the rock world and you clearly have never had anything to do with any band in any manner except that drunken night that you were filmed like a donkey from Tijuana in the back lounge!
And honestly, these men are usually quite blunt in asking for what they want sexually, if they wanted to film the sexual exploits, trust me, they would just ask and not hide the camera!

A true groupie that is in with the band and tours with them, has home phone numbers, genuine trust and friendship and is sought after, has intelligence, because one gets boring with out it, her own sense of self and style that makes her stand out from the crowd and a sweetness and patience that no normal woman could ever possess.

[Iron Duck]

A true groupie that is in with the band and tours with them, has home phone numbers, genuine trust and friendship and is sought after, has intelligence, because one gets boring with out it, her own sense of self and style that makes her stand out from the crowd and a sweetness and patience that no normal woman could ever possess.

Well said, Quennie.

[Blackie Onassis]

It would be pretty difficult to hide a camera in a back lounge I think - I mean, you can't even get your drinks to stay upright often times.

[SinCityQuennie]

Thank you Iron Duck. Those are the kind of women I know in this world.
And Blackie O...so true!!!

[Iron Duck]

[SuchaDelite]

There are groupies that are considered to be very close parts of the families while some are faceless and nameless to the bands. Those of us that are actually living the life on here know the truth. Hierarchies do exist backstage plain and simple but not necessarily in the sexual aspect that you seem to think this life is all about. It is about so much more than that to all that live it no matter what role you are playing in the scene. You don't get to the top of the groupie pecking tree with out having some respect and genuine friendship with the musicians.

This is true, there is a sort of "groupie pecking order" but it has nothing to do with "real groupies don't fuck on a tour bus" or some silly logic like that... (I believe that gem's from Lexxa Vonn or one of the Plastics.) Simply there are girls who get all-access lammies, are invited to travel w/ the band, are flown out to shows, etc. then there are girls who hang around the tour bus offering blow jobs and getting kicked off the bus as soon as the deed is done. We all know it, whether we like it or not. Still I've always hated the concept of a "groupie hierarchy" as by nature there's an element of cattiness to it and groupies in general get so much shit from the public that we really don't need to alienate each other. The OP is a good example.

[DimeBagRIP]

Like anything in life, there are those with class and those without class.
The word groupie doesn't even enter into it.
ANY chick who gives a blow job on a bus or to a roadie is a chick without any class.
Pretty easy to figure out.

Some girls that are part of the musical flora get called a groupie when really they aren't actual low class cock suckers.
They are there because the band want them there.

[SuchaDelite]

Some girls that are part of the musical flora get called a groupie when really they aren't actual low class cock suckers.
They are there because the band want them there.

I read your first sentence of the post and was about to agree with you for once... then I read this piece of wisdom.

[Kristi Vanian]

[Kristi Vanian]

ANY chick who gives a blow job on a bus or to a roadie is a chick without class

So, as long as she doesn't blow them on a bus, she has class?

[DimeBagRIP]

ANY chick who gives a blow job on a bus or to a roadie is a chick without

So, as long as she doesn't blow them on a bus, she has class?

Its not that simple. You know the difference. If a person in a band gets a blow job on their bus by their GF or wife for fun thats playing fun sexy games. If a chick stands outside the bus and offers a blow job to get in the bus, then she has no class.
Get it?

[Kristi Vanian]

I wasn't talking about wives/girlfriends. They don't have to offer blow jobs to get on a bus cause they're with one of the band members. You didn't specify that in your post. You said ANY chick, meaning girlfriends, wives, groupies, etc.

[snarky0]

~ The More You Know ~

[Chevyman]

groupies/whores no difference

[Sugar Magnolia]

Some girls that are part of the musical flora get called a groupie when really they aren't actual low class cock suckers.
They are there because the band want them there.

I read your first sentence of the post and was about to agree with you for once... then I read this piece of wisdom.

I do think Dime has a good point. Sometimes a female is invited on to a tour bus because she is friends with the band. Nothing sexual/groupie-like about it.

[SuchaDelite]

Some girls that are part of the musical flora get called a groupie when really they aren't actual low class cock suckers.
They are there because the band want them there.

I read your first sentence of the post and was about to agree with you for once... then I read this piece of wisdom.

I do think Dime has a good point. Sometimes a female is invited on to a tour bus because she is friends with the band. Nothing sexual/groupie-like about it.

Yeah, no shit. It's the part about "groupies = low class cock suckers" that I don't quite find convincing.

[lilmissdetroit]

Call me what you want, the person making the snark remark is probably someone who'd never even make it into the bus in the first place.

[Eddie_Van_Heineken]

Yeah, no shit. It's the part about "groupies = low class cock suckers" that I don't quite find convincing.

B/C that's usually what they do therefore that's usually how they're perceived.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Like anything in life, there are those with class and those without class.
The word groupie doesn't even enter into it.
ANY chick who gives a blow job on a bus or to a roadie is a chick without any class.
Pretty easy to figure out.

Some girls that are part of the musical flora get called a groupie when really they aren't actual low class cock suckers.
They are there because the band want them there.

On the flip side of that coin, any rock star musician who doesn't respect the groupie because she gave him a blow job on the bus is a loser, if not maybe a little more so than the chick.

If you don't respect the act or the female fan willing to perform said act. Don't par take. It's as simple as that.


It's like Ronnie Van Zandt once said

I know who you are baby
and I know what they call you girl
I'll never put you down baby
I'm just like a you baby
I'm On The Hunt

[Tommy2Tone84]

Yeah, no shit. It's the part about "groupies = low class cock suckers" that I don't quite find convincing.

Me too! I just don't fucking get that. The guys in the band willing to receive the BJ then make fun of the chick/fan/groupie for doing it is just as fucking low class. Actually more low class.

It's alot like that scene in Almost Famous where Russell sells Penny for five bucks and a case of beer. Penny is supposedly the "whore" but if you ask me Russell is the one who is the real whore. The kid writer is right, she was the band's biggest fan but they used her and threw her away, Russell especially. Three of the four guys fucked their best friend and manager's wife and Jeff Bebe also fucked Russell's wife. Yet the Jeff Bebe character has the balls to call Penny a whore(groupie) when confronting Russell on the plane.

In that whole world, nobody has the right unless their dick is completely fucking clean of any indescretion to place judgement on somebody else. More often than not they do pass judgement, like Nikki Sixx for example.

I felt bad for Donna D'errico during Samanthagate but goddamn that was great to see Nikki crash and burn after years of publicly giving Mick shit for "crapping in his own backyard" with Emi or whatever the fuck her name was.

[DimeBagRIP]

I agree- the rock dude is just as skanky if not more so if they pull that.
It is really disgusting to use women like that on any level.

I do have to agree with your post.

[SinCityQuennie]

We're all "using" (and I don't mean that in the star fucker or degrading way) each other in this world...for friendship, for fun, for sex, for adventure, for the love of the music, for companionship on a lonely night...whatever, both groupies and rockers are playing the band game. But the fact remains...there is a certain respect given to the top groupies no matter what. That respect comes from the person you are...not the sexual acts you may be doing in some random place. In the backstage world, we all know that all of us lay in the same debauched bed! The only judgment comes from people that aren't part of it.

For the ladies that hold themselves in a certain way or handle situations with class, there is more than a one night stand. Being sexually free spirited and open minded is a plus when it comes to rock stars. You think they really want night after night of same ol same ol sex or care where they have it...hell no! The fact is, respect happens because the person has respect for themselves...and before some one says if they had respect for them selves, they wouldn't be doing that...think again. Sexual opinions and desires vary from person to person regardless of their self esteem. And let me tell ya...when you are stuck on a bus for 16 hours, there is no where else to go get frisky!

Quoting that silly movie is sad. One thing the starry eyed wanna-be's DON'T notice about the flick, the girls ARE jumping from tour to tour and bed to bed! It is subtly injected into the movie. They had many guys on the tour and no one disrespected them for it! That was just the life. I really did loose my sister in a poker game to a certain drummer. They had fun for many months after wards. She was just fine with that! During that exact poker game another girl was blowing two of the guys under the table and the guitar player was discreetly playing with me during the whole game. None of us looked down on each other for that...it was just a normal party night for the band.

Also, I was just hanging out with a long time roadie friend. He was reminiscing about SLC in the 80's with a younger and very intrigued band. He remembered a particular tour where the back lounges of all 12 tour buses were full, the bunks were stuffed to capacity and the backstage rooms were all full, even the trucks had people on them, so he took my friend into a janitor's closet to do the deed. None of us or them thought anything degrading about it....we all just wanted a door that would give some privacy. To this day...20 something years later, he still tells the whole story because we all had fun, open minds and went with the flow. All the guys voiced their wishes that it be like that again!

I have given many blow jobs (and such) on buses...hence the upside down tour bus trick that became my infamous trademark...and have no shame in it. But I never lined people up or anything like that ala Sweet Connie (but even she gets a certain amount of respect for loving the scene as she does). Any back lounge activities were limited to the guy I was with. I think it is up to the two people involved in any sexual activity to decide what it is and what respect goes along with it. I can say this, I know my reputation was enhanced by the fact that I was sexually open minded. Hell, if it was degraded by my own back lounge activity, I wouldn't be still active and welcomed in the way I am after over 24 years of this life.

[DimeBagRIP]

Queenie, that was well written but there is more to life. What are going to do in say, ten years? Are you going to be able to have a real life and support yourself like the greats do?
There are only a handful of "greats" and they have careers.
The ones that don't just fade away into either drug addiction or they end up like Connie- I don't want to be mean to Connie so I'll bite my tongue but she is just "nasty"!
Lining up to suck anything, let alone a cock, is just stupid!

[SinCityQuennie]

[quote="DimeBagRIP"]Queenie, that was well written but there is more to life. What are going to do i say, ten years? Are you going to be able to have a real life and support yourself like the greats do?
There are only a handful of "greats" and they have careers.
The ones that don't just fade away into either drug addiction or they end up like Connie- I don't want to be mean to Connie so I'll bite my tongue but she is just "nasty"!
Lining up to suck anything, let alone a cock, is just stupid![/quote]






Yes, of course there is more to the life. The lasting friendships, the great memories, the love, the adventure, great shows and intimate conversations that no one else gets...so much more. You are right. But there is that as well and I just wanted to make a point that to those of us involved, that aspect was nothing to be ashamed of when two people already have the respect and understanding between them. Because this life isn't always fun and laughter, there are other pitfalls and things to deal with that are quite taxing on a girl some times. But I wouldn't change one thing about this roller coaster ride! And every individual has their sexual desires, musicians simply get to act it out in many opportunities.

Good question about that!
I know where my future in the rock world is headed, it's what I choose it to be. I do have a life outside the backstage world, but I have been in it so long, these are just the people that have seen me grow up basically. This is my social crowd, as it is for others. I have known most of them since I was 15, 16, 17...there are life long friendships and have been relationships along the way.

I do have a plan outside of the backstage scene and I do know where I am headed with it. I know what I am doing to get there, I guess I just don't discuss what I am going to do after all that is done because that is a secondary focus in my life right now. I have done well for myself in what I have accomplished in my life and have confidence about what it will be in the future. But it is something that any one has to think about regardless and I always kept that in the back of my mind because as a stripper...there are no 401k's or such.

As far as Connie goes, I don't care to do this the way she has and I have always kept a certain standard about that...stay with the one you came with kind of thing...but she has been out there living with no regrets and being true to herself, so I have got to give her credit for that and for staying true when others looked down on her...that, I can relate to. When I met her in 89, she was nice and welcoming to every one, obviously, that is the right attitude at least. But, no...would not want to be like her.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Quoting that silly movie is sad. One thing the starry eyed wanna-be's DON'T notice about the flick, the girls ARE jumping from tour to tour and bed to bed! It is subtly injected into the movie. They had many guys on the tour and no one disrespected them for it! That was just the life. I really did loose my sister in a poker game to a certain drummer. They had fun for many months after wards. She was just fine with that! During that exact poker game another girl was blowing two of the guys under the table and the guitar player was discreetly playing with me during the whole game. None of us looked down on each other for that...it was just a normal party night for the band.

Ouch! That hurt! But it's true I am a "starry eyed wanna-be" so what?

Actually I did notice that the girls jumped from tour to tour and bed to bed and I also noticed the cattyness at the end of the movie where Faruiza Balk's character is bitching about the younger generation of groupies not using birthcontrol and "eating all the steak" and just not understanding the whole trip of what's it's all about to be a groupie. At the same time she is giving the Russell character a bunch of shit and a guilt trip over Penny.

I also noticed when Russell is talking on the phone to William's mom while Penny and William are standing there a couple of younger groupies walk by trying to get Russell's attention(he's obilivous to them) and Penny marks her territory by giving them a look and motions them to move along and get the fuck out.

However a point you're forgetting or just overlooking is that the Penny character didn't jump from tour to tour or bed to bed and neither did the Russell character with any of the other groupies in their clique.

[SinCityQuennie]

That part wasn't actually aimed at you or anyone...but you are one of the few that does notice the little hidden innuendos! That's just my opinion of the movie.

[Tommy2Tone84]

That part wasn't actually aimed at you or anyone...but you are one of the few that does notice the little hidden innuendos! That's just my opinion of the movie.

That's cool, I was the one who brought up the movie so I just figured it was.

[SinCityQuennie]

[quote="Tommy2Tone84"][quote="SinCityQuennie"]That part wasn't actually aimed at you or anyone...but you are one of the few that does notice the little hidden innuendos! That's just my opinion of the movie.[/quote]


That's cool, I was the one who brought up the movie so I just figured it was.[/quote]




No...I have put that opinion here many times on other posts. But hey, glad you understand