A graphic that surfaced today does a great job showing how the Obama administration manages to create law without going through the usual legislative process.
President Obama just made 15 recess appointments, which means the candidates for the government positions skip the usual Senate confirmation process. One is Craig Becker, who was appointed to head up the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB). A bipartisan majority in the Senate previously held up Mr. Becker's confirmation.
Concern over Mr. Becker stems from his intent to alter labor law through the NLRB as opposed to the normal congressional channels. This would mean that the Employee Free Choice Act (aka "Card Check"), which deals with the relationship between an employer and his nonunion employees, could be instituted administratively, without congressional approval.
This particular example of the Obama administration's working around the legislative process is not unusual. Check out the graphic below for other ways the administration has accomplished its goals when Congress could not do it.
The Republicans brought this on themselves by obstructing EVERYTHING Obama proposed. The only people who are bothered by this are you nutjob Teabaggers. Everyone else just wants the president and Congress to get shit done, so these are victories for the Democrats and defeats for the Republicans any way you slice it.
Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell also joined in the protests of Obama's recess appointments on Saturday, calling them "stunning" and "yet another episode of choosing a partisan path despite bipartisan opposition."
But back in 2005, under President Bush, McConnell spoke what is probably far closer to the truth. When asked by a Fox News host if a recess appointment of Bolton would make the atmosphere in the Senate more poisonous, McConnell replied "no" and pointed out, "typically senators who are not of the party of the president don't like recess appointments."
Ronald Reagan made 243 recess appointments, Bill Clinton 140, and George W. Bush 171.
Nevermind wrote:A graphic that surfaced today does a great job showing how the Obama administration manages to create law without going through the usual legislative process.
President Obama just made 15 recess appointments, which means the candidates for the government positions skip the usual Senate confirmation process. One is Craig Becker, who was appointed to head up the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB). A bipartisan majority in the Senate previously held up Mr. Becker's confirmation.
Concern over Mr. Becker stems from his intent to alter labor law through the NLRB as opposed to the normal congressional channels. This would mean that the Employee Free Choice Act (aka "Card Check"), which deals with the relationship between an employer and his nonunion employees, could be instituted administratively, without congressional approval.
This particular example of the Obama administration's working around the legislative process is not unusual. Check out the graphic below for other ways the administration has accomplished its goals when Congress could not do it.
nevermind, are you claiming these actions have never been taken in any previous administration? No other president has signed executive orders or made recess appointments? Are you claiming that no governmental agency has ever enacted administrative rules? Are you claiming reconciliation is was first used for the health care bill? Well?
Nevermind wrote:Obama is really kicking our ass right now, and we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. If we keep obstructing he will steamroll us, and if we cooperate then we'll help him get his agenda through. This really sucks for our beloved Asshole Party, so out of frustration I'm going to post stupid graphics that don't mean shit.
YourMomma wrote:On the contrary, 59% of independents want repeal of the health care bill and I heard an analysis today by a major news outlet projecting the democrat party losing 5 congressmen each from Pennsylvania, Ohio and Virginia. That's not a sign that people are happy with how Congress is "getting shit done".
"Democrat Party" is a political epithet used in the United States instead of "Democratic Party" when talking about the Democratic Party. The term has been principally used by conservative commentators and members of the Republican Party in party platforms, partisan speeches and press releases since the 1930s. The explicit goal is to dissociate the name of the rival party from the concept of democracy.
Funny how you keep using that term because you think it pisses us off. Eh. That's okay, you support the Asshole Party, so compared to that "democrat party" isn't really much of an insult.
Also, make sure you don't post as "Nevermind" in any Stryper threads and blow your cover for the third time in a row!
Well if you can find the link, then I'll post the one where all the idiot Teabaggers are refusing to respond to the census, thus depriving the Republicans of extra seats in heavily conservative states like Texas.
"Democrat Party" is a political epithet used in the United States instead of "Democratic Party" when talking about the Democratic Party. The term has been principally used by conservative commentators and members of the Republican Party in party platforms, partisan speeches and press releases since the 1930s. The explicit goal is to dissociate the name of the rival party from the concept of democracy.
Funny how you keep using that term because you think it pisses us off. Eh. That's okay, you support the Asshole Party, so compared to that "democrat party" isn't really much of an insult.
Also, make sure you don't post as "Nevermind" in any Stryper threads and blow your cover for the third time in a row!
Ugmo wrote:The Republicans brought this on themselves by obstructing EVERYTHING Obama proposed. The only people who are bothered by this are you nutjob Teabaggers. Everyone else just wants the president and Congress to get shit done, so these are victories for the Democrats and defeats for the Republicans any way you slice it.
On the contrary, 59% of independents want repeal of the health care bill and I heard an analysis today by a major news outlet projecting the democrat party losing 5 congressmen each from Pennsylvania, Ohio and Virginia. That's not a sign that people are happy with how Congress is "getting shit done".
I call 'bullshit'.
PS: I love how nevermind just posted to convince everyone he's not YourMomma. Priceless.
You guys can think whatever you want. I'm not yourmama and I don't even know who the fuck roxxtar is. How was I supposed to respond? I denied I'm them, so that makes me them?
Good Lord, liberal minds are truly fucked.
So I guess that makes kneelandbobdylan, tincan or whatever the hell is name is,and masterofmeatpuppets all the same person then?
MasterOfMeatPuppets wrote:It is a common for someone called out for using an alt to post as the alt in the same thread to keep up the pretense. The timing is too coincidental.
What the fuck ever man. I saw my name mentioned, and I responed. Talk to you later kneelandbobdylan.
MasterOfMeatPuppets wrote:It is a common for someone called out for using an alt to post as the alt in the same thread to keep up the pretense. The timing is too coincidental.
What the fuck ever man. I saw my name mentioned, and I responed. Talk to you later kneelandbobdylan.
Ugmo wrote:The Republicans brought this on themselves by obstructing EVERYTHING Obama proposed. The only people who are bothered by this are you nutjob Teabaggers. Everyone else just wants the president and Congress to get shit done, so these are victories for the Democrats and defeats for the Republicans any way you slice it.
On the contrary, 59% of independents want repeal of the health care bill and I heard an analysis today by a major news outlet projecting the democrat party losing 5 congressmen each from Pennsylvania, Ohio and Virginia. That's not a sign that people are happy with how Congress is "getting shit done".
So you had to narrow your field down to "independents" to get the results you wanted, I see.
God damn, you just can't type one post without something stupid coming out.
YourMomma wrote:
Not at all. In fact the majority (54%) of America wants the health bill repealed. When you have nearly 6 in 10 independents wanting the same you shouldn't boast that everyone other than the tea party just wants the Congress to "keep getting shit done" in the same manner.
Where does it say this? Did it come from somewhere besides your imagination?
According to the poll, 47 percent agree with the Republican strategy and want Congress to repeal most of the major provisions in the law and replace them with new proposals. But 50 percent are fine with the current law or want Congress to go back and pass something that would increase the government's involvement in health care even more.
Now, wasn't that easy. when you quote facts and figures, you should always cite your source, especially since someone else did the legwork. It's only fair to give them props.
As for the poll, the numbers aren't that far off. I wouldn't be planning that Contract With America II party just yet.
YourMomma wrote:He conveyed American exceptionalism.
I was too busy jumping on the apologizing thing to laugh at this. Bush conveyed American exceptionalism? Yeah, fine example of American exceptionalism, a dude who has failed at everything in his entire life, including the presidency.
You really love it when people pay lip service to American greatness, don't you? Like, as long as Bush says "God bless the United States of America" at the end of every speech, it's just fine if he and Darth Cheney go out of their way to undermine everything America stands for.
You really deserved Bush as your president. Unfortunately too many people didn't.
YourMomma wrote:Such a failure that he was elected twice. Obviously the people didn't think so. Hell, half of them would rather he be President right now. Winning every election in your life is a sure sign of fail...
And In Sync sold 10 million copies of one of their albums! Everything Bush touched turned to excrement. I don't give a shit how many people Karl Rove conned into voting for him.
YourMomma wrote:Yes, he did apologize for America while in a foreign country and labeled Americans as arrogant among other things. Just as I said.
And Europe was saved from Nazi Germany because of America. America didn't start that war, but they ended it and brought peace to Europe. Absolutely true.
You're not very good at context are you? He labeled the Bush administration as arrogant, not Americans in general. And they were. Old Europe vs. New Europe, with us or against us and all that.
Nor is that an apology.
Sure, the U.S. was instrumental in bringing peace to Europe during WWII. No one's arguing that. It's the completely unquantifiable and yes, arrogant bullshit statement posted by the Teabagger who made that video that makes it impossible to take seriously.
Are you saying you don't think he was referring to the Bush administration, and that everyone in the audience didn't know very well he was talking about the Bush administration?
We all know what he was doing. He was apologizing for the Cheney administration's arrogance and bumbling. You can try and paint it as something else, but even you know what he meant.
Ugmo wrote:Are you saying you don't think he was referring to the Bush administration, and that everyone in the audience didn't know very well he was talking about the Bush administration?
YM is oddly picky and specific when it comes to others, isn't he/she?
