Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[TawnyVonJagger]

Oh, and another thing!

Jeffrey Loria gifted Hanley with a necklace during ST for winning the batting title. It had ".342", signifying his NL leading batting avg. last year. Made out of 342 diamonds, and the "." was a teal diamond. Fucking beautfiul. And this is the thanks Loria gets. Bet he regrets that now.

[killeverything]

I think Uggla should just whale on Hanley. He'd break that kid in half.

Hanley said he was hurt. So was Brian Barden, and he went out and played and hustled and contributed, as did Cody Ross, who got drilled in the leg/knee area with a 95 MPH fastball. Made a fabulous diving catch as well. Hanley's a pussy.
Then he has the gall to trash his manager like that...that's just inexcusable. THEN, he says, and I'm paraphrasing, "Let's see what those 24 other players go out there and do what I do." Guess what, puto? THEY DID! Oh, and he sat all by himself on the bench, and when the cameras panned to him, he fucking HID!
Goddammit. You don't see this kind of behavior from Albert Pujols. And Derek Jeter.
The majority of fans from what I've heard/read is Team Fredi. But there are those blind Hanley nutswingers who insist the sun shines out of his ass and are demanding Fredi be fired. I'd LOL SO FUCKING HARD if he got traded to KC. Make it happen, gimme some Grienke!

I'm pissed. Can you tell???!

Nomah.

That's all I have to say. While Teddy Ballgame and Yaz were before my time, what I've heard is no one was more popular that Nomah. The great Pedro was close, but no enchilada.

Anyways. What this reminds me of is Nomah sitting on the bench pouting. This was the game Jeter dove into the stands, and the Arod/Varitek glove incident. The team fights, Nomah is on the bench pouting.

Theo made the right choice getting rid of a fan favorite cancer.

It seems Florida is in the same boat.



Ugggggglllllllllaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!



That still cracks me up. Not being from there, it's new to me.

[dtmfs]

WTF, Halladay loses to the fucking pirates?? still pitched good the offense decided to take the day off.

[tin00can]

This just in: the Angels really fucking suck this year. I guess the lsat few years have spoiled me.

[Machado]

Heard a trade rumor last night that would
send hanley to the giants for buster posey.

If I'm Brian Sabean, I would make that trade yesterday.

[killeverything]

Heard a trade rumor last night that would
send hanley to the giants for buster posey.

If I'm Brian Sabean, I would make that trade yesterday.

I just can't see that at all. In order to aquire a player of Hanley's caliber, you would have to trade another ( under contract, this is Florida ) superstar. I think the only way you see Hanley moved is for a name like Lincecum.

I just can't see Florida making a trade for anything less. Especially with a new stadium in the works. Uggla and Nolasco just don't have the superstar quality outside of the Marlins' fanbase that Ramirez has.

That said his primadonna bullshit wouldn't make me surprised to see him moved. Just not for less of the reasons I stated above.

[Machado]

Kill-
I know you enjoyed the red sox vs Yankees game last night. Maybe you will comment because you didn't say anything about the game on Monday night.

No lead is safe in the Yankees vs sox rivalry. Even I knew the lead was basically a 1 run game because anything/everything can happen when these 2 teams take the field.

Any news on beckett? I saw a replay of him cursing the pitching mound after the stumbled. Perhaps that is when he tweaked his back.
That was classic!!


Since I saw the game on MLB EI last night, I was treated to the NESN feed.
If remy refers to Cervelli as a pest 1 more time, I'm going to be forced
to give remy a "smack"

[TawnyVonJagger]

I guess they say Hanley's gonna apologize to his teammates today. I'm sure it will be heartfelt and sincere.
I just don't see them moving him...he IS the centerpiece for the new ballpark.

And who the fuck is Buster Posey? I'll take a Freak!

[JakeYonkel]

Who's Buster Posey?!!

Catcher of the future for San Fran. Should have been up to start the year but the franchise is stupid. He may come up soon and play 1B and push Huff out to LF.

He'll be better than Matt Wieters.

[killeverything]

Kill-
I know you enjoyed the red sox vs Yankees game last night. Maybe you will comment because you didn't say anything about the game on Monday night.

No lead is safe in the Yankees vs sox rivalry. Even I knew the lead was basically a 1 run game because anything/everything can happen when these 2 teams take the field.

Any news on beckett? I saw a replay of him cursing the pitching mound after the stumbled. Perhaps that is when he tweaked his back.
That was classic!!


Since I saw the game on MLB EI last night, I was treated to the NESN feed.
If remy refers to Cervelli as a pest 1 more time, I'm going to be forced
to give remy a "smack"

I didn't get to see the game Monday. Which is a good thing. Yesterday's game ( motherfucking "Rivera $$" Pappelbon ) had me screaming and throwing shit.

Beckett, what it seems injured his back. He had 6K in 4 2/3IP, he just lost it. Girardi filed a protest ( not sure exactly how that works ), because he "says" he didn't see any signs that Beckett was injured. Really? How many fucking times do see the Pitching Coach pull a pitcher off the mound?

Which leads me to Pappelbon. Now Thames on Sportscenter said he was sitting on the fastball, and didn't want to miss it. This is a problem to me. Sure Paps throws 80% fastballs, but when the team your facing is waiting for it, and your location sucks? Throw somethingthefuckelse.

It's not like Rivera's cutter. Mariano is going to throw the cutter, there's no Pedro-esque deceptions or anything. Cutter. Can you hit it? This is leading me up to my point.

Who's at fault? Is it the pitcher, the catcher, the coaching staff? Remember the media breakdown from Daisuke and Vmart. Dice K aluded to the pitch calling, and said he'll speak on it further. Vmart say's the choice is his. Remember Martinez apparently was good at pitch calling in both Sabbathia and Lee's Cy Young seasons. It's just absurd to me. Especially when Varitek has the rep for calling majority FB. Varitek also has caught 4 No Hitters, which ties the MLB record.

When your entire pitching staff is under performing, it's the fault of the coaching. Jon Lester is Farrell's biggest success story, OTOH Dice K is his biggest failure. While this season was a bridge year, which is fine. Aside from some of the bigger contracts coming off the books, I think they need to look at the coaching.

That said The Mighty Red Sox are in a better position next season than both the MFY and Tampa. The Rays have a lot of free agents coming up that can and will demand big money. The MFY's core is only getting older.

Glass half full right?




Goddamnit.

[JakeYonkel]

Boston does have money coming off the books, just as they did prior to this year, but hopefully they'll spend it better. Beltre and Cameron? Bleh.

And Lackey's been just as lousy as the other starters. It's 1/4 of the way through the season and they're yet to get going. Eventually you'd think it has to happen.

Anyway in regards to the catching situation I'm a pretty firm believer that pitch calling with a catcher is overrated. At the very least if you're a veteran guy like Beckett you can basically call your own game. But when it comes down to it, Robby Hammock (I think) caught Randy Johnson's perfect game in 2004, Kurt Suzuki just did it for Dallas Braden, and hell, Posada caugth Wells' in 1998. And he's hardly a defensive wiz.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

Kurt Suzuki is Asian. They're good with numbers and being smart and stuff.

[killeverything]

Boston does have money coming off the books, just as they did prior to this year, but hopefully they'll spend it better. Beltre and Cameron? Bleh.

And Lackey's been just as lousy as the other starters. It's 1/4 of the way through the season and they're yet to get going. Eventually you'd think it has to happen.

Anyway in regards to the catching situation I'm a pretty firm believer that pitch calling with a catcher is overrated. At the very least if you're a veteran guy like Beckett you can basically call your own game. But when it comes down to it, Robby Hammock (I think) caught Randy Johnson's perfect game in 2004, Kurt Suzuki just did it for Dallas Braden, and hell, Posada caugth Wells' in 1998. And he's hardly a defensive wiz.

I liked the Beltre signing. I highly value defense, it's just "defensive wizard" he hasn't been at Fenway this season. Cameron was brought in to mentor Overatedsby Ellsbury on outfield defense.

I woulda signed Lackey too. Not too sure about 5 years though. The only time you dull out a contract to a pitcher of that length IMO, is if they're Hernandez's age or if their name is CC. Unfortunatley Lackey's BB/9 has risen, while his K/9 has dropped. I still think it's too early to actually judge the signing. Something just isn't clicking with them this year. Damn near every pitcher is under-performing.

Now to pitch-calling. I look at it a lot like discussing "bat speed". You can mention it in a discussion and it makes you look like you know what your talking about, but how do you really document it? Put it this way. Joe Morgan talks about player's bat speed. HOF 2nd baseman? Yes. Neanderthal? Yes.

With pitch calling, all we have to really go on is what pitcher's say about it. Schilling, Beckett and Pedro talked about Tek's prowess behind the plate. Like Schilling's 9 inning one-hitter against the A's, he's said "I shouldn't have shook off Tek. Then I possibly would've had the no-hitter". Once again how do you quantify that? I think Baseball Prospectus has did some research with it.

It's all rhetorical to me.

Bat speed.



JP Howell is out for the season with a shoulder injury.

Scott Schowenweiss was DFA by Boston to make room for a SS, since Scutaro has "tennis elbow". What's sad about Schowenweiss is the one year anniversary of his wife's passing just happened. That sucks but so did his 7+ ERA.

[Machado]

Yankees can not catch a break this week.
Not only are the injuries getting worse(freak broken foot injury to Posada from a foul tip), but last night Pettitte has his worst start of the season.
That was a game the Yankees needed to win to stop the momentum in the wrong direction.

Hopefully playing the mets will be the remedy for several wins.

[killeverything]

Yankees can not catch a break this week.
Not only are the injuries getting worse(freak broken foot injury to Posada from a foul tip), but last night Pettitte has his worst start of the season.
That was a game the Yankees needed to win to stop the momentum in the wrong direction.

Hopefully playing the mets will be the remedy for several wins.

Baseball's "victims" don't have to worry about catching a break now. They're playing the Mets. Playing the Mets is a lot like beating up a retarded child. Something that no one should condone, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

[UtahRatt]

Yankees can not catch a break this week.
Not only are the injuries getting worse(freak broken foot injury to Posada from a foul tip), but last night Pettitte has his worst start of the season.
That was a game the Yankees needed to win to stop the momentum in the wrong direction.

HAHAHAHA!

Yankees can't catch a break.

Now that shit is funny.

They've bought more breaks then Don King.

[killeverything]

Yankees can not catch a break this week.
Not only are the injuries getting worse(freak broken foot injury to Posada from a foul tip), but last night Pettitte has his worst start of the season.
That was a game the Yankees needed to win to stop the momentum in the wrong direction.

HAHAHAHA!

Yankees can't catch a break.

Now that shit is funny.

They've bought more breaks then Don King.

Hey go easy on them.

Their last "victory" cost them half a billion dollars in signing the top free agents, to go along with their piece of shit new stadium. That's mystique and aura, not a monopoly.

[johnk5150]

Cubs are GAY! And FAGGOT!

[SkyDog112046]

Dice-K had a no hitter going with 2 outs in the 8th. Dice-K?

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

Dice-K had a no hitter going with 2 outs in the 8th. Dice-K?

Against that lineup? Pretty impressive performance.

[doctordestructo]

[Facedown]

Former MLB pitcher Jose Lima dead at 37.

[johnk5150]

Since his two most productive years were with the Bagwell/Caminitti Astros I wonder which one gave him the roids.

[killeverything]

Dice-K had a no hitter going with 2 outs in the 8th. Dice-K?

Against that lineup? Pretty impressive performance.

Yep, and Scutaro couldn't get to the pop-up so he lost it.

What's more impressive to me was he only had 1BB. It seems like pitching him more often ( which is what he likes, and is used to ) has really worked.

I just wanna say fuck FOX. I couldn't watch the game or really any of them ( except Minn/Mil ), because of their Saturday Baseball bullshit. Fucking assholes.


Also Roy Oswalt has requested a trade. This leaves to an interesting dilemma. Who could he go to? He has a pretty big contract, certainly ain't any younger and it has to be a "competitor".

The Dodgers could certainly use him, but the McCourt's are in the middle of a divorce so their out. The NL East has every team as a contender. Can anyone afford him? Philly and Atlanta traded big pitcher's in the offseason. The Mets have no prospects. Florida? Spend money?

I don't think Cincinnati or Chicago have any interest in taking on his contract, plus the Reds have enough of a rotation. Both Detroit and Minnesota could use him, so maybe them. I don't Oswalt would pitch in Colorado. Oakland probably can't afford him, nor could the Rays.

The Rangers are in an ownership shift, so I don't think their in. Although their Farm is deep and considering the Astros have the worst Farm/talent in MLB. That has to be enticing. Seattle needs a bat. Boston doesn't really need pitching. The MFY while they could do it, and swoop in when everybody else doesn't. I think they're more concerned with their upcoming FA contracts on the books.

So that leaves maybe Detroit or Minnesota. Good luck with that Drayton.

[Atomicpunk18]

Yankees can not catch a break this week.
Not only are the injuries getting worse(freak broken foot injury to Posada from a foul tip), but last night Pettitte has his worst start of the season.
That was a game the Yankees needed to win to stop the momentum in the wrong direction.

HAHAHAHA!

Yankees can't catch a break.

Now that shit is funny.

They've bought more breaks then Don King.

Hey go easy on them.

Their last "victory" cost them half a billion dollars in signing the top free agents, to go along with their piece of shit new stadium. That's mystique and aura, not a monopoly.

Well, if we think back to the 2006 offseason after the Sox third place finish in the AL East, they dropped $200+ million on three free agents en route to the 2007 World Series Championship. This includes spending $51,111,111.11 just to TALK with a player. Don't let this get in the way of the "buying championships" discussion or anything.

I'm also sure that you know that, before 2009, the team with the highest payroll to win the World Series was the 2007 Boston Red Sox, followed by the 2004 Boston Red Sox.

Scrappy, small market, $170 million payroll Boston Red Sox.

If you think the new Yankee Stadium is a piece of shit, I guess you've never been to Fenway.

[JakeYonkel]

Yeah, no offense dude but unless you're like a Rays or Padres fan at this point the whole payroll argument is out the window.

Cashman was calculated and made a lot of money moves prior to 2009 knowing that the 2010 free agent class was going to be shit (which it was). So rather than spending a "reasonable" amount for the next few winters he spent it all at once, especially with guys like Mussina, Carla Pussvano, and Giambi taking chunks off their books. It was easy enough.

You know the Burnett and Lackey signings are pretty parallel... they will both have lights out starts but more than likely will both spend a good deal of time on the DL and the signings will probably look like ass come year 4 at the latest.

But Sabathia was a no-brainer (he was their Santana) and the Red Sox were right there on Teixeira too, so...

[Machado]

Again with discussing the Yankees payroll.
There are more important topics to discuss.

Let's just all agree on 1 thing;
Yankees are the WORLD SERIES CHAMPS


Memo to opposing pitchers;
jason bay likes the ball down in the zone. his uppercut swing lifts the ball over the home run fence

C.C. was bad last night. The way santana was throwing his change-up, C.C. had to be almost perfect to win the game.
Losing 2/3 to the lowly mets is weak.

If a team was desperate for a day off, get their minds of baseball, the Yankees might have stumbled across the best remedy by not having a game today.

[nycyankee]

Apparently Mo Rivera's chokejob against the Twins fucked up the Yankees mentally. I know they have injuries, but that is no excuse for the way they are playing. Something is wrong with these divas and it is up to Joe Girardi to fix the problem. They went from being the best team in baseball to the worst team in baseball in just 2 weeks. They could miss the playoffs this year.

[killeverything]

Apparently Mo Rivera's chokejob against the Twins fucked up the Yankees mentally. I know they have injuries, but that is no excuse for the way they are playing. Something is wrong with these divas and it is up to Joe Girardi to fix the problem. They went from being the best team in baseball to the worst team in baseball in just 2 weeks. They could miss the playoffs this year.

What?

They haven't been the best team in baseball this season. That's been Tampa and probably will be all season.

I still find it hard to believe they'd miss the Playoffs. While that would warm my heart and mean that all is right with the world. They're too fucking good.

[SkyDog112046]

Apparently Mo Rivera's chokejob against the Twins fucked up the Yankees mentally. I know they have injuries, but that is no excuse for the way they are playing. Something is wrong with these divas and it is up to Joe Girardi to fix the problem. They went from being the best team in baseball to the worst team in baseball in just 2 weeks. They could miss the playoffs this year.

What?

They haven't been the best team in baseball this season. That's been Tampa and probably will be all season.

I still find it hard to believe they'd miss the Playoffs. While that would warm my heart and mean that all is right with the world. They're too fucking good.

Tampa is going to run away with the AL East. That leaves NY to battle for the wild card with Detroit, Toronto, and Boston. I think that gives Detroit the edge because NY, Tor & Bos play each other so much they can take each other out while Detroit can beat up on Cle, KC, and Chi. And that's fine by me.