poizond13 wrote:These mistakes by the run defense will get corrected. This was not a problem of personnel. It was a problem of people making mistakes, people missing tackles, and just plain not being ready for the power running game that Houston brought out of nowhere. We could not have seen this coming, last year Houston had a horrible running attack. This is why opening games can sometimes be tricky. t.
You fucking idiot.
The Colts have now gotten their asses kicked in two straight games. I don't understand your unbridled optimism.
It might just be that they are getting old and losing hunger, like what happens to all dynasties eventually.
It'll happen sooner or later. No reason it can't be this year.
poizond13 wrote:These mistakes by the run defense will get corrected. This was not a problem of personnel. It was a problem of people making mistakes, people missing tackles, and just plain not being ready for the power running game that Houston brought out of nowhere. We could not have seen this coming, last year Houston had a horrible running attack. This is why opening games can sometimes be tricky. The good news is that it isn't a personnel problem or a schematic problem, it is very correctable, and it will get corrected.
Very reminiscent of 2006 when people like Maurice Jones Drew and Ron Dayne of the Texans had huge running games against us. People thought the sky was falling and we would lose in the first round against the Chiefs and the hard running Larry Johnson. We got it corrected and went on to win the Superbowl. This is week one folks, learn some shit about football and you'll realize that.
They couldn't stop the run, at all, but we've all seen that from Indy before. We haven't seen their own O line crater like that though. They played from behind all day and were forced to pass, so their run game may be better than it looked Sunday, but they did a piss poor job of protecting Manning as well. #18 spent the entire day on the ground. That's especially troubling when you consider that Houston played a nickle defense most of the day. Manning is a special QB. Anybody but him, and that game isn't even close to competitive. They'd better make some protection adjustments though. His record of never missing a start isn't going to hold up against that kind of pressure all year.
bane wrote:They couldn't stop the run, at all, but we've all seen that from Indy before. We haven't seen their own O line crater like that though. They played from behind all day and were forced to pass, so their run game may be better than it looked Sunday, but they did a piss poor job of protecting Manning as well. #18 spent the entire day on the ground. That's especially troubling when you consider that Houston played a nickle defense most of the day. Manning is a special QB. Anybody but him, and that game isn't even close to competitive. They'd better make some protection adjustments though. His record of never missing a start isn't going to hold up against that kind of pressure all year.
Yup, and what happens to Indy if Manning gets beaten up? Never mind if he ends up getting injured and misses games because they don't stand a chance without him. But what happens if he starts taking a pounding week in and week out and has trouble moving around or becomes less accurate because of it? Could be a very long season in Indy.
SkyDog112046 wrote:
Yup, and what happens to Indy if Manning gets beaten up? Never mind if he ends up getting injured and misses games because they don't stand a chance without him. But what happens if he starts taking a pounding week in and week out and has trouble moving around or becomes less accurate because of it? Could be a very long season in Indy.
Peyton Manning is the most valuable player to his team. Even when Brady went down the Pats were able to adapt and finish respectably. If anything happens to Manning, it's skidsville.
The news today regarding Bob Sanders is tough. From the team's standpoint, it's nothing new. Melvin Bullitt has come in and really solidified himself as a premier safety. He's not only filled in for Bob, but has become a great player in his own right. More than anything, I just feel horrible for Bob, as he just cannot seem to stay healthy. When on the field, he's truly a force to be reckoned with, a uniquely powerful weapon for whatever team he is playing for. Unfortunately, I fear his time here in Indy may have come to an end. I'm not sure the organization can continue to pay him the kind of money that he's receiving, when the reality for the past few years has been that he simply cannot stay healthy. What a shame. One of the worst tragedies in sports that I can think of.
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poizond13 wrote:The news today regarding Bob Sanders is tough. From the team's standpoint, it's nothing new. Melvin Bullitt has come in and really solidified himself as a premier safety. He's not only filled in for Bob, but has become a great player in his own right. More than anything, I just feel horrible for Bob, as he just cannot seem to stay healthy. When on the field, he's truly a force to be reckoned with, a uniquely powerful weapon for whatever team he is playing for. Unfortunately, I fear his time here in Indy may have come to an end. I'm not sure the organization can continue to pay him the kind of money that he's receiving, when the reality for the past few years has been that he simply cannot stay healthy. What a shame. One of the worst tragedies in sports that I can think of.
One of the worst tragedies? Are you fucking for real?
Sports tragedies:
Roberto Clemente
1970 Marshall football team
Darryl Stingley
Brian Piccolo
Dale Earnhardt
Dave Dravecky
Lou Gehrig
Tony Conigliaro
Corey Stringer
Len Bias
Travis Roy
Sanders being injured is certainly unfortunate, but it's not anything close to being tragic.
poizond13 wrote:The news today regarding Bob Sanders is tough. From the team's standpoint, it's nothing new. Melvin Bullitt has come in and really solidified himself as a premier safety. He's not only filled in for Bob, but has become a great player in his own right. More than anything, I just feel horrible for Bob, as he just cannot seem to stay healthy. When on the field, he's truly a force to be reckoned with, a uniquely powerful weapon for whatever team he is playing for. Unfortunately, I fear his time here in Indy may have come to an end. I'm not sure the organization can continue to pay him the kind of money that he's receiving, when the reality for the past few years has been that he simply cannot stay healthy. What a shame. One of the worst tragedies in sports that I can think of.
One of the worst tragedies? Are you fucking for real?
Sports tragedies:
Roberto Clemente
1970 Marshall football team
Darryl Stingley
Brian Piccolo
Dale Earnhardt
Dave Dravecky
Lou Gehrig
Tony Conigliaro
Corey Stringer
Len Bias
Travis Roy
Sanders being injured is certainly unfortunate, but it's not anything close to being tragic.
I said SPORTS tragedy, not life tragedy. Someone getting killed or paralyzed is not a SPORTS tragedy, it's a tragedy, period. I'm talking about stories that pertain to SPORTS issues. Damn, can't you people read?
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SkyDog112046 wrote:
One of the worst tragedies? Are you fucking for real?
Sports tragedies:
Roberto Clemente
1970 Marshall football team
Darryl Stingley
Brian Piccolo
Dale Earnhardt
Dave Dravecky
Lou Gehrig
Tony Conigliaro
Corey Stringer
Len Bias
Travis Roy
Sanders being injured is certainly unfortunate, but it's not anything close to being tragic.
I said SPORTS tragedy, not life tragedy. Someone getting killed or paralyzed is not a SPORTS tragedy, it's a tragedy, period. I'm talking about stories that pertain to SPORTS issues. Damn, can't you people read?
The 1970 Marshall football team plane crashes just outside the airport returning from a game killing everyone on board. Darryl Stingley and Travis Roy were paralyzed during games. Corey Stringer died during a practice. Dale Earnhardt died on the last lap of a race. Dave Dravecky broke his arm while pitching and it turned out to be cancer, he tried to come back and later had his arm amputated. Tony Conigliaro got beaned during a baseball game and was never the same, eventually dying from a series of strokes attributed to his beaning. Piccolo and Gehrig got sick while still actively playing their sports and died horrible deaths. How are these not sports related tragedies? Certainly they are life tragedies as well, but they most certainly qualify as sports tragedies.
Bob Sanders has had a very nice run during which time he has been paid very well, and if for some reason he is unable to play he will most certainly use the contacts and reputation he has made for himself to live a life that very few people will ever attain. Unfortunate that he got injured, but not tragic in any shape or form.
SkyDog112046 wrote:I said SPORTS tragedy, not life tragedy. Someone getting killed or paralyzed is not a SPORTS tragedy, it's a tragedy, period. I'm talking about stories that pertain to SPORTS issues. Damn, can't you people read?
The 1970 Marshall football team plane crashes just outside the airport returning from a game killing everyone on board. Darryl Stingley and Travis Roy were paralyzed during games. Corey Stringer died during a practice. Dale Earnhardt died on the last lap of a race. Dave Dravecky broke his arm while pitching and it turned out to be cancer, he tried to come back and later had his arm amputated. Tony Conigliaro got beaned during a baseball game and was never the same, eventually dying from a series of strokes attributed to his beaning. Piccolo and Gehrig got sick while still actively playing their sports and died horrible deaths. How are these not sports related tragedies? Certainly they are life tragedies as well, but they most certainly qualify as sports tragedies.
Don't confuse the poor kid with IRREFUTABLE FACTS now..
Bob had surgery today but thus far has not been placed on IR. Hopefully that means the window for him to return sometime toward the end of the season or playoffs is still open. I'm not too optimistic about that, but you never know. Maybe he can come back just in time for our Superbowl run, similar to 2006.
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poizond13 wrote:Bob had surgery today but thus far has not been placed on IR. Hopefully that means the window for him to return sometime toward the end of the season or playoffs is still open. I'm not too optimistic about that, but you never know. Maybe he can come back just in time for our Superbowl run, similar to 2006.
@ "our."
LouDoo wrote:Neon has to be the most active poster who actually contributes the least, despite all the threads he starts. He has no redeeming value. He's completely useless.
Greg has never, ever played a game of organized football. The closest he came to putting on shoulder pads was when he was cut from the non-cut Junior High team and asked to be the equipment manager.
LouDoo wrote:Neon has to be the most active poster who actually contributes the least, despite all the threads he starts. He has no redeeming value. He's completely useless.
Greg has never, ever played a game of organized football. The closest he came to putting on shoulder pads was when he was cut from the non-cut Junior High team and asked to be the equipment manager.
Sorry failmaster, you are wrong. I'd love to know how you supposedly ascertained all of this information that you'd have no way of possibly knowing. I won't get into my personal life, but suffice to say you are wrong. Dead wrong.
Just because I have detailed personal information about your divorce, bankruptcy, and overall life failure, doesn't mean you have to make up information about me.
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poizond13 wrote:These mistakes by the run defense will get corrected. This was not a problem of personnel. It was a problem of people making mistakes, people missing tackles, and just plain not being ready for the power running game that Houston brought out of nowhere. We could not have seen this coming, last year Houston had a horrible running attack. This is why opening games can sometimes be tricky. The good news is that it isn't a personnel problem or a schematic problem, it is very correctable, and it will get corrected.
Very reminiscent of 2006 when people like Maurice Jones Drew and Ron Dayne of the Texans had huge running games against us. People thought the sky was falling and we would lose in the first round against the Chiefs and the hard running Larry Johnson. We got it corrected and went on to win the Superbowl. This is week one folks, learn some shit about football and you'll realize that.
They couldn't stop the run, at all, but we've all seen that from Indy before. We haven't seen their own O line crater like that though. They played from behind all day and were forced to pass, so their run game may be better than it looked Sunday, but they did a piss poor job of protecting Manning as well. #18 spent the entire day on the ground. That's especially troubling when you consider that Houston played a nickle defense most of the day. Manning is a special QB. Anybody but him, and that game isn't even close to competitive. They'd better make some protection adjustments though. His record of never missing a start isn't going to hold up against that kind of pressure all year.
The O-line was banged up. Charlie Johnson was just coming off of being inactive for most of training camp and was not 100%. The fact that his first game back came against Mario Williams was just unfortunate. Johnson is a good LT when healthy, but that was a very tough assignment to come back after weeks of not playing at all, still not being close to 100%, and having to face one of the best DE's in the league. Jeff Saturday was also coming back from an injury and was not 100%. We have some young guys on the line who will continue to improve. It's just a matter of time, hopefully a short amount of time, before we are healthy and the line begins to gel together as a unit. At this point I'm not too concerned about it seeing as how the offense was still productive and moved the ball well, despite the amount of pressure that Peyton sustained. Make no mistake though, we need to get better in that aspect, and we will.
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What high school did you play for? What years? What was the team's record? What were your stats? What position did you play? Why are you afraid to prove that you ever did anything remotely athletic in your sorry fantasy of a life?
LouDoo wrote:Neon has to be the most active poster who actually contributes the least, despite all the threads he starts. He has no redeeming value. He's completely useless.
Tymaster wrote:What high school did you play for? What years? What was the team's record? What were your stats? What position did you play? Why are you afraid to prove that you ever did anything remotely athletic in your sorry fantasy of a life?
Failmaster, I don't need or want to prove anything to you, and won't go out of my way to provide any personal information to you whatsoever. I don't care if you believe me or not. Your statements are unfounded. You made them up out of thin air. If there were any basis to these statements, maybe I would address them.
Stop taking out your anguish about the bankruptcy and divorce on me. I didn't cause these events; you did, with your shitty personality and irresponsible, and undisciplined spending habits.
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LouDoo wrote:Neon has to be the most active poster who actually contributes the least, despite all the threads he starts. He has no redeeming value. He's completely useless.
poizond13 wrote:
At this point I'm not too concerned about it seeing as how the offense was still productive and moved the ball well, despite the amount of pressure that Peyton sustained. Make no mistake though, we need to get better in that aspect, and we will.
He was also playing against a team starting a bunch of kids in the secondary. He won't pick apart a good secondary like that. They need to fix that line immediately or that team is in trouble.
poizond13 wrote:
At this point I'm not too concerned about it seeing as how the offense was still productive and moved the ball well, despite the amount of pressure that Peyton sustained. Make no mistake though, we need to get better in that aspect, and we will.
He was also playing against a team starting a bunch of kids in the secondary. He won't pick apart a good secondary like that. They need to fix that line immediately or that team is in trouble.
It's not really a matter of fixing the line or making any kind of adjustments. People just need to get healthy and get some practice in so they can regain their timing and learn to play as a unit. By and large the O-Line has not spent much time playing together. The line up was not even solidified for very long before game time. It was pretty easy to predict that the protection would be less than optimum for that game. The bottom line is they need to get healthy, get some practice in, and work hard at improving. Believe me, they know damn well that they need to play better, and they will.
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Indy is a professional team, at least historically anyway, but they haven't had much adversity under this coach, so, we'll see how they handle it. Based on what I saw last weekend though, I think Superbowl predictions are a pretty big stretch.
Funny the differences between Greg's posts when he gets distracted by Tymaster and he forgets to troll..
poizond13 wrote:We have some young guys on the line who will continue to improve. It's just a matter of time, hopefully a short amount of time, before we are healthy and the line begins to gel together as a unit. At this point I'm not too concerned about it seeing as how the offense was still productive and moved the ball well, despite the amount of pressure that Peyton sustained. Make no mistake though, we need to get better in that aspect, and we will.
poizond13 wrote:It's not really a matter of fixing the line or making any kind of adjustments. People just need to get healthy and get some practice in so they can regain their timing and learn to play as a unit. By and large the O-Line has not spent much time playing together. The line up was not even solidified for very long before game time. It was pretty easy to predict that the protection would be less than optimum for that game. The bottom line is they need to get healthy, get some practice in, and work hard at improving. Believe me, they know damn well that they need to play better, and they will.
bane wrote:Indy is a professional team, at least historically anyway, but they haven't had much adversity under this coach, so, we'll see how they handle it. Based on what I saw last weekend though, I think Superbowl predictions are a pretty big stretch.
True, by and large there wasn't much adversity last year under Coach Caldwell, when you look at the record. Which is why I actually think a little adversity will go a long way in getting us focused and where we need to be at the end of the season, when it counts. A lot of the young players on the team have never even lost a regular season game that meant anything. They need to learn that it's not always that easy, and will require more work and preparation to maintain that incredible streak of consecutive seasons with 12 wins. Dealing with some adversity early can be beneficial come January. Also, keep in mind we started the 2008 season 3-4 before rattling off 9 straight wins, so this team can overcome adversity.
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Luminiferous wrote:Funny the differences between Greg's posts when he gets distracted by Tymaster and he forgets to troll..
poizond13 wrote:We have some young guys on the line who will continue to improve. It's just a matter of time, hopefully a short amount of time, before we are healthy and the line begins to gel together as a unit. At this point I'm not too concerned about it seeing as how the offense was still productive and moved the ball well, despite the amount of pressure that Peyton sustained. Make no mistake though, we need to get better in that aspect, and we will.
poizond13 wrote:It's not really a matter of fixing the line or making any kind of adjustments. People just need to get healthy and get some practice in so they can regain their timing and learn to play as a unit. By and large the O-Line has not spent much time playing together. The line up was not even solidified for very long before game time. It was pretty easy to predict that the protection would be less than optimum for that game. The bottom line is they need to get healthy, get some practice in, and work hard at improving. Believe me, they know damn well that they need to play better, and they will.
Nice try, but wrong. I was referring to the offensive line specifically in the second post. I am not a part of the offensive line, hence use of the word "they" when referring to them. Nice try, idiot.
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He's injury prone, not paralyzed, an amputee or dead. Get some perspective dude.
