Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[johnk5150]

I'm glad to see them gone. How do you go from the greatest 2B of all-time, to the worst baseball broadcaster of all-time.

ESPN canned Santo?

[Machado]

http://blogbeckett.wordpress.com/2010/1 ... ust-might/

I was alerted of this article earlier this morning.
Very funny images of Jeter wearing other MLB uniforms.

[killeverything]

I'm glad to see them gone. How do you go from the greatest 2B of all-time, to the worst baseball broadcaster of all-time.

ESPN canned Santo?

I would take Joe Morgan over any other 2B in MLB history.

The first 2B with 200HR and 500 steals. I would take him over Rogers Hornsby or anyone.

[SkyDog112046]

I would take Joe Morgan over any other 2B in MLB history.

The first 2B with 200HR and 500 steals. I would take him over Rogers Hornsby or anyone.

He was such a shitty commentator that it's sometimes hard to remember how good #8 was as a player. Back then guys who played 2B hit 2-3 HR a year, if that. I would certainly rank Morgan 1st in the modern era, but I don't know if I would put him ahead of Eddie Collins or Rogers Hornsby.

[johnk5150]

WSCR in Chicago reporting the Sox DAMN close to signing Adam Dunn. I guess that means bye bye Paulie.

[johnk5150]

Now the SCORE is reporting the White Sox will have Dunn AND Paulie is staying.

Nothing official yet. Fuck that's a nice 1-2 punch. I'm hearing Dunn wants no part of being a DH, so I guess that means Paulie is retiring his glove.

[killeverything]

Varitek is returning for 2m plus incentives.

http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman

I'm not too sure how I feel about a Tek/Salty platoon, unless the plan is for him to mentor him. Hearing the pitchers speak about the difference between Tek and Martinez ( who they fucked up on letting go IMO ), was pretty large in game calling skills. Remember Tek has caught 4 no-hitters. Tied for most all-time.

Oh yeah and Okijima was non-tendered. God, that guy was fun why he lasted, but the league figured him out. He wanted free-agency last season. I hope he continues to be deceptive in the NL.

[killeverything]

Now the SCORE is reporting the White Sox will have Dunn AND Paulie is staying.

Nothing official yet. Fuck that's a nice 1-2 punch. I'm hearing Dunn wants no part of being a DH, so I guess that means Paulie is retiring his glove.

4/56 apparently.

http://twitter.com/pgammo/status/10449469833220096#

[Machado]

Varitek is returning for 2m plus incentives.

http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman

I'm not too sure how I feel about a Tek/Salty platoon, unless the plan is for him to mentor him. Hearing the pitchers speak about the difference between Tek and Martinez ( who they fucked up on letting go IMO ), was pretty large in game calling skills. Remember Tek has caught 4 no-hitters. Tied for most all-time.

Oh yeah and Okijima was non-tendered. God, that guy was fun why he lasted, but the league figured him out. He wanted free-agency last season. I hope he continues to be deceptive in the NL.

so the sox will have a platoon behind the plate, instead of resigning victor martinez? i like the sound of that.
how much more did the tigers pay martinez to leave boston?

[killeverything]

Varitek is returning for 2m plus incentives.

http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman

I'm not too sure how I feel about a Tek/Salty platoon, unless the plan is for him to mentor him. Hearing the pitchers speak about the difference between Tek and Martinez ( who they fucked up on letting go IMO ), was pretty large in game calling skills. Remember Tek has caught 4 no-hitters. Tied for most all-time.

Oh yeah and Okijima was non-tendered. God, that guy was fun why he lasted, but the league figured him out. He wanted free-agency last season. I hope he continues to be deceptive in the NL.

so the sox will have a platoon behind the plate, instead of resigning victor martinez? i like the sound of that.
how much more did the tigers pay martinez to leave boston?

4 million.

If the pitching staff can stay healthy though.....

[Machado]

Varitek is returning for 2m plus incentives.

http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman


so the sox will have a platoon behind the plate, instead of resigning victor martinez? i like the sound of that.
how much more did the tigers pay martinez to leave boston?

4 million.

If the pitching staff can stay healthy though.....

Is that all? The sox are going to need a career year from one of them and that still might not make up for the offense martinez can provide as an everyday catcher.
Do the sox have a catcher in the minors that has been tagged, "can't miss"-the catcher of the future"??

[killeverything]

Varitek is returning for 2m plus incentives.

http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman


so the sox will have a platoon behind the plate, instead of resigning victor martinez? i like the sound of that.
how much more did the tigers pay martinez to leave boston?

4 million.

If the pitching staff can stay healthy though.....

Is that all? The sox are going to need a career year from one of them and that still might not make up for the offense martinez can provide as an everyday catcher.
Do the sox have a catcher in the minors that has been tagged, "can't miss"-the catcher of the future"??

You also have to remember they're going to upgrade offensively. Plus last season was without Pedroia, Youkilis, Beckett and signing old players like Cameron....while not finally fucking saying "hey you what? That fucking Ellsbury guy isn't going to become who we thought he was."

I still think they can be competitive if everyone stays relatively healthy. Even in the AL East.

[tin00can]

In retarded news, the Angels tendered a contract - instead of letting him go outright - to Jeff Fucking Mathis, a historically bad catcher. Here are his stats:

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425772

Every manager has some blind spots and Mathis is Scioscia's biggest one. He keeps talking about how good a defensive catcher Mathis is - he isn't, and statistics bear that out - and how well he handles the pitching staff. What he is, is fucking awful.

This could mean that Napoli is on the trading block and next year the Angels will do yet another catcher platoon with Mathis and Conger. Fuck.

[johnk5150]

I guess I shouldn't have made fun of Ronnie Santo's broadcasting skills yesterday.

[Big In Malaysia]

When I heard a sufferer of juvenile diabetes who was horrible behind a microphone and wore a bad rug died, I assumed it was Bret Michaels.

Anyway, RIP Ronnie.

[johnk5150]

Yeah. He totally lost it in this century, but the guy knew a LOT about baseball when he started in 1990. He raised a ton of dough for a very worthy cause, lived and died with his team (mostly died) and didn't have a mean bone in his body.

Leave it up to Ronnie to steal the Sox Thunder the day after their biggest FA signing since Albert Belle. Heh...

[killeverything]

In retarded news, the Angels tendered a contract - instead of letting him go outright - to Jeff Fucking Mathis, a historically bad catcher. Here are his stats:

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425772

Every manager has some blind spots and Mathis is Scioscia's biggest one. He keeps talking about how good a defensive catcher Mathis is - he isn't, and statistics bear that out - and how well he handles the pitching staff. What he is, is fucking awful.

This could mean that Napoli is on the trading block and next year the Angels will do yet another catcher platoon with Mathis and Conger. Fuck.

Hopefully Boston can pick him up, especially to catch Lackey's starts. I always assumed they were going to make a play for him. Varitek's re-signing kind of fucked that though. Anaheim does have AAA insurance in Ryan Budde if needed.

The MFY are in on Crawford now. Is anyone surprised?

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
whether they could sign Cliff Lee and still stay in the mix for Crawford, who figures to sign for more money than any player this winter.

So that would be 120+ for Crawford, 120 for Lee, 15 ( maybe ) for Pettite, 30 for Rivera, 30+ for Jeter. Basically half a billion dollars a year. And Selig will continue to say there's nothing wrong with the system? God, I hate that fucking team.

Beltre told Oritz that his preference is to stay in Boston ( the factor is years ). Since it's made public now, it could've just been to raise his price with Oakland.

Jack Cust was non-tendered by Oakland.

Tawny y'all just signed Javy "Homerun" Vazquez to a 1/7m deal.....with a full no trade clause. I think that means he's outta options too so if he needs to get sent to New Orleans to work on AAA pitching, you're fucked.

RIP Ron Santo

[Machado]

In retarded news, the Angels tendered a contract - instead of letting him go outright - to Jeff Fucking Mathis, a historically bad catcher. Here are his stats:

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425772

Every manager has some blind spots and Mathis is Scioscia's biggest one. He keeps talking about how good a defensive catcher Mathis is - he isn't, and statistics bear that out - and how well he handles the pitching staff. What he is, is fucking awful.

This could mean that Napoli is on the trading block and next year the Angels will do yet another catcher platoon with Mathis and Conger. Fuck.

Hopefully Boston can pick him up, especially to catch Lackey's starts. I always assumed they were going to make a play for him. Varitek's re-signing kind of fucked that though. Anaheim does have AAA insurance in Ryan Budde if needed.

The MFY are in on Crawford now. Is anyone surprised?

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
whether they could sign Cliff Lee and still stay in the mix for Crawford, who figures to sign for more money than any player this winter.

So that would be 120+ for Crawford, 120 for Lee, 15 ( maybe ) for Pettite, 30 for Rivera, 30+ for Jeter. Basically half a billion dollars a year. And Selig will continue to say there's nothing wrong with the system? God, I hate that fucking team.

kill-
take it easy. have a cup of warm chowder.
personally i would be shocked if the Yankees signed both Lee and Crawford. perhaps they want teams to believe they are interested in signing Crawford to raise the stakes just a bit.
Mo did get 30 for two years
Andy might get around 13 for a one year deal
No telling how much Jeter will be paid.

[Machado]

BOSTON -- The Red Sox offered reliever Mariano Rivera a two-year, $30 million deal and were prepared to non-tender closer Jonathan Papelbon, according to a baseball source with direct knowledge of the negotiations.

Rivera turned down the Red Sox to return to the Yankees, who offered the same money as Boston. Rivera's pending agreement with the Yankees was first reported by the New York Daily News.


The Red Sox on Thursday night tendered a contract to Papelbon, who was paid $9.35 million last season and is arbitration-eligible, which will drive his salary into eight figures. Papelbon is a year away from free agency.

By any measure, the 30-year-old Papelbon had the worst season of his career in 2010. His 3.90 ERA was more than a full run higher than in any of his previous five seasons in the majors, and his eight blown saves were also a career high.

On Thursday night the Yankees and Rivera's agent, Fern Cuza, were putting the finishing touches on Rivera's contract.

"There are a lot of steps in the process, from agreeing to something in principle to getting the physical done," Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said Friday morning when asked if the Rivera deal was done. "Until all those things are covered, I'm not in a position to say."

The Yankees could announce that the deal is official as soon as Friday.

[killeverything]

In retarded news, the Angels tendered a contract - instead of letting him go outright - to Jeff Fucking Mathis, a historically bad catcher. Here are his stats:

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425772

Every manager has some blind spots and Mathis is Scioscia's biggest one. He keeps talking about how good a defensive catcher Mathis is - he isn't, and statistics bear that out - and how well he handles the pitching staff. What he is, is fucking awful.

This could mean that Napoli is on the trading block and next year the Angels will do yet another catcher platoon with Mathis and Conger. Fuck.

Hopefully Boston can pick him up, especially to catch Lackey's starts. I always assumed they were going to make a play for him. Varitek's re-signing kind of fucked that though. Anaheim does have AAA insurance in Ryan Budde if needed.

The MFY are in on Crawford now. Is anyone surprised?

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
whether they could sign Cliff Lee and still stay in the mix for Crawford, who figures to sign for more money than any player this winter.

So that would be 120+ for Crawford, 120 for Lee, 15 ( maybe ) for Pettite, 30 for Rivera, 30+ for Jeter. Basically half a billion dollars a year. And Selig will continue to say there's nothing wrong with the system? God, I hate that fucking team.

kill-
take it easy. have a cup of warm chowder.
personally i would be shocked if the Yankees signed both Lee and Crawford. perhaps they want teams to believe they are interested in signing Crawford to raise the stakes just a bit.
Mo did get 30 for two years
Andy might get around 13 for a one year deal
No telling how much Jeter will be paid.

I wouldn't. It's been common knowledge for a while now that they've coveted Crawford. With Gardner having tendonitis in his wrist, the pieces are in place. Cashman regards Lee as a special player, so that's two 100m dollar contracts. Like Teix and Sabbathia.

Give Rivera whatever he wants. Period. I'm glad Boston offered him a contract, probably with the full knowledge he wouldn't take it. Not unlike Pettite in 2004.

I think they ( Boston ) should get in on the Jeter negotiations. Just because it's funny, and Theo has a love for shitty shortstops. Anything you could do to drive up NY's price is worth it.

[SkyDog112046]

[Theo has a love for shitty shortstops.

Truer words have not been spoken. If Theo was picking a team out on the playground and had his choice between Ozzie Smith and the kid from Johnny Got His Gun he'd go with Johnny every time.

[Lardbucket]

White Sox sign Adam Dunn, re-sign AJ Pierzynski, get the Braves to take Scott Linebrink (only giving them $1.5M of his salary) and by some accounts have a "wink-wink" arrangement for Paul Konerko to return. Not a bad week!
If Konerko comes back and plays 1B most of the time (Dunn is a butcher anywhere on the field), and if Jake Peavy can come back fully healthy, the Sox should contend in the AL Central. Their bullpen's still a little thin without Bobby Jenks and JJ Putz, though - Ken Williams is going to have to try to find an inexpensive bullpen guy and/or hope Chris Sale is for real.

[Big In Malaysia]

Yeah. He totally lost it in this century, but the guy knew a LOT about baseball when he started in 1990. He raised a ton of dough for a very worthy cause, lived and died with his team (mostly died) and didn't have a mean bone in his body.

Leave it up to Ronnie to steal the Sox Thunder the day after their biggest FA signing since Albert Belle. Heh...

Honestly, I haven't listened to a whole lot of Cubs broadcasts, but he always seemed like that drunken uncle who once had his shit together, but somewhere along the way had a disconnect.

Regardless, like you said, he did seem like a good guy, and was certainly likable.

[killeverything]

White Sox sign Adam Dunn, re-sign AJ Pierzynski, get the Braves to take Scott Linebrink (only giving them $1.5M of his salary) and by some accounts have a "wink-wink" arrangement for Paul Konerko to return. Not a bad week!
If Konerko comes back and plays 1B most of the time (Dunn is a butcher anywhere on the field), and if Jake Peavy can come back fully healthy, the Sox should contend in the AL Central. Their bullpen's still a little thin without Bobby Jenks and JJ Putz, though - Ken Williams is going to have to try to find an inexpensive bullpen guy and/or hope Chris Sale is for real.

The Central should be fun to watch next season. Especially with the rumors of Zack Greinke wanting to be traded, preferably to the Twins. A 1 - 2 of Liriano/Greinke is pretty tough. That's a top half of the rotation that could possibly beat the MFY......for two games, then lose the other 3 or 4.


There's a rumor that Boston is in on the Adrian Gonzalez trade talks again. You had to know this was coming, especially with Hoyer ( who knows their Farm System inside and out ) as GM. Reportably from Edes and Gammons ( yeah yeah, I know ) it's strictly for 4-5 prospects.

I hate this rumor. Gonzalez' shoulder is questionable. Apparently he's having it evaluated....in Boston. Unloading the farm for a superstar just about to hit Free Agency and who could be seriously injured? Yeah, that's a good idea.

Just give them Ellsbury.....Goddamnit.

[tin00can]

In retarded news, the Angels tendered a contract - instead of letting him go outright - to Jeff Fucking Mathis, a historically bad catcher. Here are his stats:

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425772

Every manager has some blind spots and Mathis is Scioscia's biggest one. He keeps talking about how good a defensive catcher Mathis is - he isn't, and statistics bear that out - and how well he handles the pitching staff. What he is, is fucking awful.

This could mean that Napoli is on the trading block and next year the Angels will do yet another catcher platoon with Mathis and Conger. Fuck.

Hopefully Boston can pick him up, especially to catch Lackey's starts. I always assumed they were going to make a play for him. Varitek's re-signing kind of fucked that though. Anaheim does have AAA insurance in Ryan Budde if needed.

I'd fucking die if the Angels traded him to the Sox, although if it was for JE I might get over it. Budde is still an unknown, I think Conger will get the b/u spot over him if this goes down.

http://losangeles.sbnation.com/los-ange ... his-tender

[killeverything]

In retarded news, the Angels tendered a contract - instead of letting him go outright - to Jeff Fucking Mathis, a historically bad catcher. Here are his stats:

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425772

Every manager has some blind spots and Mathis is Scioscia's biggest one. He keeps talking about how good a defensive catcher Mathis is - he isn't, and statistics bear that out - and how well he handles the pitching staff. What he is, is fucking awful.

This could mean that Napoli is on the trading block and next year the Angels will do yet another catcher platoon with Mathis and Conger. Fuck.

Hopefully Boston can pick him up, especially to catch Lackey's starts. I always assumed they were going to make a play for him. Varitek's re-signing kind of fucked that though. Anaheim does have AAA insurance in Ryan Budde if needed.

I'd fucking die if the Angels traded him to the Sox, although if it was for JE I might get over it. Budde is still an unknown, I think Conger will get the b/u spot over him if this goes down.

http://losangeles.sbnation.com/los-ange ... his-tender

Definitely. He COULD become a major league player. He's done decent in AAA. Unfortunately his WAR lists at -0.1. Nevermind, I just saw his age 31 and it's pretty slim ( without PEDs ) he's going to overcome that.

I just heard Napoli's name thrown around. That would be a good pick-up without Tek re-signing.

[SkyDog112046]

Looks like the Sox are pulling the trigger on a trade for Gonzalez. Nobody from the major league roster is on it so it looks like Ellsbury is staying. Most likely included in the deal are Casey Kelly, Anthony Rizzo and at least 2 more players out of a group including Jose Iglesias, Ryan Kalish, Josh Reddick, and Ryan Lavarnway. This is a bad trade and will gut the farm system for a guy coming off an injury who may not be able to handle Boston. I would give them Ellsbury & Rizzo, and then their choice of Kalish or Reddick and another low level prospect and if they wouldn't take it I'd let the trade die.

Link: http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sport ... ion=recent

Reports: Red Sox have deal in principle for Adrian Gonzalez trade

Red Sox’ fans wait for a blockbuster move by their team appears to be over.

The Red Sox are on the verge of acquiring their primary objective for more than a year, San Diego first baseman Adrian Gonzalez.

According to ESPN, the Red Sox and the Padres have agreed to a deal in principle for the power-hitting, defensively gifted 28-year-old left-handed hitter, who has been the focus of the Red Sox virtually since the day they were unable to sign free agent first baseman Mark Teixeira two years ago.

Gonzalez had surgery on his right shoulder after the season ended, so a physical, which could take place today, will be a key part of any deal. He is signed for only $6.3 million this season but also according to ESPN, the Red Sox have been granted a negotiating contract to hammer out a new deal.

Gonzalez is eligible for free agency after the 2011 season.

A complete list of names of whom the Padres will receive from the Red Sox is still unknown but multiple reports suggest that nobody from the major-league roster is on it. That strongly suggests that at least two of the club’s top three prospects – starter Casey Kelly, first baseman Anthony Rizzo and shortstop Jose Iglesias – are on it, with Kelly and Rizzo the two likeliest. The Padres have been focused on acquiring offense, so other names, including outfielder Ryan Kalish or Josh Reddick, or catcher Ryan Lavarnway, could pop up as well.

The Red Sox are still trying to sign one of the elite free agent outfielders, Carl Crawford or Jayson Werth.

[Facedown]

9:01am: SI.com's Jon Heyman tweets that negotiations about a contract extension will begin shortly, and that Kelly is in fact in the deal. WEEI.com's Alex Speier adds that multiple Red Sox prospects rumored to be in the deal have yet to hear anything from the team about a trade.

So, Beltre is gone and Youk to 3rd, I guess.

[Facedown]

RHP Kelly, 1B Rizzo and OF Fuentes to Padres.

[johnk5150]

9:01am: SI.com's Jon Heyman tweets that negotiations about a contract extension will begin shortly, and that Kelly is in fact in the deal. WEEI.com's Alex Speier adds that multiple Red Sox prospects rumored to be in the deal have yet to hear anything from the team about a trade.

So, Beltre is gone and Youk to 3rd, I guess.

Wow. I heard 8 hours ago Beltre wanted to stay.