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Sorry dude. I'm pretty sure due to budget cuts most high schools don't offer this any more.bane wrote:You already are. They call it "Driver's Ed".Crazy Levi wrote: I'm thinking you should be forced to watch one of those 1950s auto safety movies showing all the mangled bodies before you can sign a lease for a new car.
Death by listening to Lazer Band.MurrayFiend wrote:Wow, that's really outrageous. And despicable. Why not just kill the thing upon birth?Skate4RnR wrote:I wouldn't worry about one until the third trimester or so.
I guess it varies by state, but you still have to take it to get licensed up to a certain age in most states. High Schools don't offer it, but parents still go to their wallet for the private shit so they can shut Jr up. Trust me dude, I have teenage kids. you don't have to be licensed to buy a car though. You could buy it and park it in your living room like modern art like those crazy rich Japanese dudes do with guitars. I don't think your analogy works Mr Cargument.Crazy Levi wrote:Sorry dude. I'm pretty sure due to budget cuts most high schools don't offer this any more.bane wrote:You already are. They call it "Driver's Ed".Crazy Levi wrote: I'm thinking you should be forced to watch one of those 1950s auto safety movies showing all the mangled bodies before you can sign a lease for a new car.
You should have to watch that shit right in the dealership showroom.
Watch the film - buy your car
Watch the sonogram - abort your fetus.
THAT'S an analogy motherfucker.
On a purely logical level, it is a sound analogy. We are talking SAT here.bane wrote:I guess it varies by state, but you still have to take it to get licensed up to a certain age in most states. High Schools don't offer it, but parents still go to their wallet for the private shit so they can shut Jr up. Trust me dude, I have teenage kids. you don't have to be licensed to buy a car though. You could buy it and park it in your living room like modern art like those crazy rich Japanese dudes do with guitars. I don't think your analogy works Mr Cargument.
"Legislating morality" is a thought terminating cliche. As previously stated, all laws are based on moral positions. Just say,"I don't know how to explain my moral position on abortion," instead of ping-ponging fallacies as arguments.bane wrote:I've never made a secret of the fact that I don't believe in legislating morality.SeminiferousButtNoid wrote: I wanted to know what your moral position was on abortion since you brought up the fact that women that you knew felt guilty about it.
GreatWhiteSnake wrote:I'm 46 and my dad's 67 and we kiss each other on the mouth and my 9 yo old son and I do too. It's because we love each other. A lot. And could give a shit what anyone else thinks about us kissing on the mouth.
Where does your same line of logic stand for infanticide?bane wrote:I don't think abortion is any of the government's business. I'm not real comfortable with the practice. It doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy, but I think the decision should be between a woman, her doctor and her own conscience. Fair enough?
bane wrote:I don't think abortion is any of the government's business. I'm not real comfortable with the practice. It doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy, but I think the decision should be between a woman, her doctor and her own conscience. Fair enough?
GreatWhiteSnake wrote:I'm 46 and my dad's 67 and we kiss each other on the mouth and my 9 yo old son and I do too. It's because we love each other. A lot. And could give a shit what anyone else thinks about us kissing on the mouth.
Hairball?CrouchingStonerHiddenBong wrote:Pretty soon you'll have to pick out names for your ovarian cysts before you can have them removed.
Mr Yellow Discipline wrote:Somebody please post more videos of girls getting set on fire.
JRA wrote: I did like how they took the piss out of readers. Fuck books and fuck them.
Jesus. What are you, a fucking shrink? Why do you care? I have conflicting feelings about the morality of it. I think that a woman should be free to do what she feels is right with her own body but that whole "when is a fetus a person?" thing fucks with my head. Is that so hard for you to grasp? Why are you so interested in my personal moral take on it? This thread is about the government's role in it. My personal take on the morality of it is irrelevant.SeminiferousButtNoid wrote:bane wrote:I don't think abortion is any of the government's business. I'm not real comfortable with the practice. It doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy, but I think the decision should be between a woman, her doctor and her own conscience. Fair enough?
Jesus... Am I posting in Portuguese and not realizing it? No, not fair enough. You still haven't answered the question, you're like one of those politicians on Chris Matthews. In your words, why are you "not real comfortable with the practice" and why does it not make you "feel all warm and fuzzy inside?" Is anyone home? Am I making sense? Bueller? McFly? '80s era Talking Heads?
1. Ok first of all this is a bullshit idea.bane wrote:I guess all those crazy ass Texas republican kooks have a little more bark than I thought they did. The pre abortion sonogram law looks like it's gonna pass. Basically, women would be subjected to having to have a mandatory sonogram with a doctor's explanation of the fetus' features and a listen to the heartbeat before they can have an abortion. It very well may change some women's minds, but if you ask me, it's just fucking cruel. They're just making what is already a difficult decision a million times harder and adding an extra layer of guilt to the guilt that most women go through anyway. Mission accomplished I guess. Jebus crispies are such assholes sometimes.
I'm kind of confused by this line of thinking. So any law that has passed is no longer the government's business? Isn't abortion legal because the government put its nose into the issue? How is it not the government's business?bane wrote:I don't think abortion is any of the government's business. I'm not real comfortable with the practice. It doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy, but I think the decision should be between a woman, her doctor and her own conscience. Fair enough?
Where do you get "any law that has passed" from my statement? I stated that I don't think abortion is any of the government's business. I never said a thing about every law that's been passed. IMO there never should have been a law on abortion one way or the other in the first place. I don't believe it ever should have been a government or legal issue. I find it kind of ironic that the same people spouting their "small government", "leave me be" mantra, have no proble forcing their own version of morality on everybody else. These are the same folks responsible for prohibition, anti gambling and the now defunct "Blue Law".TheMightyMaiden wrote:I'm kind of confused by this line of thinking. So any law that has passed is no longer the government's business? Isn't abortion legal because the government put its nose into the issue? How is it not the government's business?bane wrote:I don't think abortion is any of the government's business. I'm not real comfortable with the practice. It doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy, but I think the decision should be between a woman, her doctor and her own conscience. Fair enough?
And I think you can't be more wrong about laws not factoring in morality.
I like to think so. I'm a native and have lived in the state most of my life. I spent a few years hopping around the country, but I'm very much a Texan.TyrC! wrote: 2. Second do you know anything about Texas? .
That's a bit scary and fucked up to me.bane wrote:IMO there never should have been a law on abortion one way or the other in the first place. I don't believe it ever should have been a government or legal issue.TheMightyMaiden wrote:I'm kind of confused by this line of thinking. So any law that has passed is no longer the government's business? Isn't abortion legal because the government put its nose into the issue? How is it not the government's business?bane wrote:I don't think abortion is any of the government's business. I'm not real comfortable with the practice. It doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy, but I think the decision should be between a woman, her doctor and her own conscience. Fair enough?
And I think you can't be more wrong about laws not factoring in morality.
We're obviously on very different ends of the spectrum on this issue. I can live with that.TheMightyMaiden wrote: That's a bit scary and fucked up to me.
