The Never Ending MMA thread

[yeahbuddy]

I'm watching 132, and just wrapped up the Tito Ortiz fight. Jeez, how is Dana going to pick a knockout of the night bonus? 4 fights, 4 great knockouts. Although the Ortiz fight was a submission. He blasted Bader that knocked him on his ass.

[tin00can]

I'm watching 132, and just wrapped up the Tito Ortiz fight. Jeez, how is Dana going to pick a knockout of the night bonus? 4 fights, 4 great knockouts. Although the Ortiz fight was a submission. He blasted Bader that knocked him on his ass.

That was interesting. Ortiz did exactly the right thing: saw he wasn't getting the KO and went for the choke. Leben's KO was awesome, it was kinda funny when Silva "woke" and tried to wrestle the ref.

I don't recall seeing Cruz fight before but I like his style. Tough to get a bead on him.

[mullet_head]

Wow what was a handful of knockouts.

I didn't watch the UFC back when Tito was in his prime and he comes off like a douchebag so fuck him I wanted him to lose. I will say that, despite being on a losing streak, in the fights I have seen from him he was kind of competitive, shit, it's not too often you see Machida almost getting submitted.

Wanderlei's fight was sad to watch. In his fight against Bisping he was pacing himself and fighting much smarter. I had a feeling he would reverse back to his brawling ways with Leben, yeah not a good idea when your chin is shot.
When was the last time he went for the clinch? He had to do it now, when eating shots from Leben?
Ruined a great event for me.

[caroline]

Ruined a great event for me.

Same here. Although I knew Wanderlei would lose, it was so pitiful. He certainly had no "axe murderer" look in his eyes before the fight. He just looked happy to be there. He had a great career, though.

Today, by the way, is his 35th birthday. He looks ten years older.

[mullet_head]

Too much wear and tear I guess. Those Chute Boxe guys knocking each other out in training can't be good in the long run. Plus Crocop and Hendo had already ruined his chin before he came to the UFC.
Yeah the axe murderer is long gone, but had he fought like in the Bisping fight things could've gone differently.
But no, lets brawl till I get the thai clinch and fuck defense, that's what the fans want to see.

[caroline]

All my old favorites have either retired or jumped the shark, and I've not warmed up to any of the current fighters.

I wanted Forrest Griffin to fill the void, but he's just too inconsistent. Something's missing there. And GSP has all the tools, but he lacks personality.

I don't know who to root for anymore.

[yeahbuddy]

Too much wear and tear I guess. Those Chute Boxe guys knocking each other out in training can't be good in the long run. Plus Crocop and Hendo had already ruined his chin before he came to the UFC.
Yeah the axe murderer is long gone, but had he fought like in the Bisping fight things could've gone differently.
But no, lets brawl till I get the thai clinch and fuck defense, that's what the fans want to see.

Not to mention he hasnt fought in 16 months. I dont care what profession you are in, if you havent done it in 16 months, things will be a bit rusty.

I thought it was a great night of fights. The Facebook fights were on the weak side, but once it went over to Spike, the fun really began.

The crowd was booing the Siver victory, but I thought he won. It actually couldve gone either way.

Same with the Faber/Cruz fight, it couldve gone either way. I dont think Faber was hurt one time, while Cruz got dazed a couple of times. Yeah, I agree that Cruz's fight style is hard to get a bead on. How about this a rematch on the same card as GSP vs Diaz? That would be a hell of a night.

Carlos Conduit is a bad ass or what!

Tito Ortiz looked good as well. He was interesting to listen to in the post fight conference. I never liked the guy, but he came in in shape & delivered the goods.

Remember when George Sorporopoloz(or however its spelled) was on his way to a title shot? Thats not happening anytime soon. He's not going to get cut, but his next stop will probably be on the Facebook prelims.

GREAT NIGHT OF FIGHTS!

[yeahbuddy]

All my old favorites have either retired or jumped the shark, and I've not warmed up to any of the current fighters.

I wanted Forrest Griffin to fill the void, but he's just too inconsistent. Something's missing there. And GSP has all the tools, but he lacks personality.

I don't know who to root for anymore.

It seems whoever I want to win always loses. But thats okay, I'm a big fan of the sport, so its all good. I do know I get nervous watching a fight with a fighter I like is fighting.
You are right about GSP. In my opinion, he is so skilled at what he does, it makes him boring to watch. I cant wait for the fight with Diaz.

Favorite fighters- Chael Sonnen, Nick Diaz, Clay Guida.
Fighter I dislike the most- Anderson Silva (I just want to see him lose one time). I will admit he is the top fighter (possibly all time). How he pulled off the victory of Sonnen was beyond incredible. He had to reach so far down in the gas tank & bag of tricks that its very rare a fighter can do that.

[mullet_head]

All my old favorites have either retired or jumped the shark, and I've not warmed up to any of the current fighters.

I wanted Forrest Griffin to fill the void, but he's just too inconsistent. Something's missing there. And GSP has all the tools, but he lacks personality.

I don't know who to root for anymore.

I was never more than a casual fan so I even though I had my favorites it didn't bothered me that much when they lost, I think the turnaround point was when crocop started losing left and right, to the point I was like "dude just quit it hurts you more than it hurts me cause you got ktfo".

Shogun's last fight was also hard to watch. But that Bones kid is something else. How's that to fill in the void?

But there are other fighters I really enjoy watching. Nobody likes Machida but his pin point accuracy is a work of art, beats any top control artist any day.

I also really enjoy watching Anderson Silva, don't know how long he can hang there but he pulls off some beautiful stuff. Can you believe how average he was back when wanderlei was the only Silva that mattered?

[mullet_head]

The crowd was booing the Siver victory, but I thought he won. It actually couldve gone either way.

He only lost round 2 (although decisively). Won the others in my opinion.

[yeahbuddy]

All my old favorites have either retired or jumped the shark, and I've not warmed up to any of the current fighters.

I wanted Forrest Griffin to fill the void, but he's just too inconsistent. Something's missing there. And GSP has all the tools, but he lacks personality.

I don't know who to root for anymore.

I was never more than a casual fan so I even though I had my favorites it didn't bothered me that much when they lost, I think the turnaround point was when crocop started losing left and right, to the point I was like "dude just quit it hurts you more than it hurts me cause you got ktfo".

Shogun's last fight was also hard to watch. But that Bones kid is something else. How's that to fill in the void?

But there are other fighters I really enjoy watching. Nobody likes Machida but his pin point accuracy is a work of art, beats any top control artist any day.

I also really enjoy watching Anderson Silva, don't know how long he can hang there but he pulls off some beautiful stuff. Can you believe how average he was back when wanderlei was the only Silva that mattered?

Bones Jones definitely fills a void (no pun intended)
Amazing how the planets aligned for him to step in when he did.
Its a definite out with the old in with the young time with the UFC.

[mullet_head]

Yeah from all the guys at LHW I don't see anyone right now beating him. Lyoto could maybe pull off a UD just cause he's so hard to get a hold of and because I'd want that to happen.

Then Shogun would beat Machida, only to be beaten again by Bones who would lose a rematch to Lyoto again...that would be hilarious...style against style and all...

But with Bone's insane reach...

[yeahbuddy]

Yeah from all the guys at LHW I don't see anyone right now beating him. Lyoto could maybe pull off a UD just cause he's so hard to get a hold of and because I'd want that to happen.

Then Shogun would beat Machida, only to be beaten again by Bones who would lose a rematch to Lyoto again...that would be hilarious...style against style and all...

But with Bone's insane reach...

Lyoto vs Jones would be an interesting fight. The only hope for Lyoto would be because of Jones's youth and inexperience he makes a mistake that Lyoto capitalizes on. His length and athleticism is insane.

[BD888]

I've never been a Ortiz fan until he came back to the UFC. Up until Rashad Evans, I always supported the guys against him like Shamrock, Liddell, Couture, Belfot, Matyushenko, Wanderlei etc., but then I have been supporting him since his return against Evans, and lost all those fights till last night, and I have to say I was buzzing with excitement. It was like he won one for the old guys, and I was so certain he was going to lose, until I saw him square up in the octagon at the beginning, and I just felt he was going to win. I was fairly elated until my favourite fighter on the card got knocked out in the next fight. I probably wouldn't have watched the fight live (UFC started at 2am here, and I had been drinking for hours with the Klitschko fight) if Wanderlie wasn't on the card. So, in the end, a great night of fights still left me a little deflated.

I wonder who Ortiz will get next.

[doctordestructo]

I wonder who Ortiz will get next.

I'd say the winner of the Franklin/Little Nog fight next month...

[yeahbuddy]

I wonder who Ortiz will get next.

I'd say the winner of the Franklin/Little Nog fight next month...

That sounds like a good one, although in my opinion Franklin is done. He looked terrible against Forrest Griffith. And he was embarrassed to no end when Anderson Silva destroyed him.

[BD888]

I wonder who Ortiz will get next.

I'd say the winner of the Franklin/Little Nog fight next month...

That sounds like a good one, although in my opinion Franklin is done. He looked terrible against Forrest Griffith. And he was embarrassed to no end when Anderson Silva destroyed him.

Frankln is a guy that always beats fighters that I like. Franklin vs. Ortiz does nothing for either of them in terms of moving up the ladder, and I think Ortiz would shy away from a Franklin fight. Stylistically, it would be bad for Ortiz, and didn't Ortiz duck Little Nog before?

In any case, I think they should put Ortiz on another card soon, since he's in shape, put him on UFC 135.

[caroline]

I was never more than a casual fan so I even though I had my favorites it didn't bothered me that much when they lost

I've been watching since UFC 2, so I've seen everyone throughout their entire careers.

It may be because I'm a chick, but to really get behind a fighter I need them to have both a likeable personality and a great skill set. Silva, Ortiz, and Jones are undeniably good fighters, but I just don't like them, either because they have no personality (Silva) or they're assholes (Tito).

[BD888]

I was never more than a casual fan so I even though I had my favorites it didn't bothered me that much when they lost

I've been watching since UFC 2, so I've seen everyone throughout their entire careers.

It may be because I'm a chick, but to really get behind a fighter I need them to have both a likeable personality and a great skill set. Silva, Ortiz, and Jones are undeniably good fighters, but I just don't like them, either because they have no personality (Silva) or they're assholes (Tito).

Silva, which Silva? If you mean Anderson, he's hilarious in his interviews. How can a fighter that once danced and moon walked into the ring dressed as Michael Jackson, be a fighter that doesn't have personality. He wore a mask in the weighs with Vitor, and refused to speak English, and wouldn't even acknowledge Sonnen in their weigh ins. He's very funny, but I can understand some of the criticism he gets frustrated in the octagon with fighters that refuse to fight.

I've never been a big fan of Ortiz, but I have been supporting in the last few years as he's had some really bad decisions, and he's never been KOed, and he's kind of the last man standing of the second generation of UFC fighters.

[mullet_head]

I've never been a big fan of Ortiz, but I have been supporting in the last few years as he's had some really bad decisions, and he's never been KOed, and he's kind of the last man standing of the second generation of UFC fighters.

We didn't catch the UFC around here back when Tito still won fights, we only had some Brazilian channel on cable who showed Pride and some brazilian fights so I didn't get to see Tito in his prime or something (watching his past fights when you know the outcome isn't the same) but he comes off as kind of an annoying asshole so I'm like "fuck that guy".

But I will say that watching the crowd go nuts when Tito pulled off the upset...that was kind of cool.

[yeahbuddy]

I've never been a big fan of Ortiz, but I have been supporting in the last few years as he's had some really bad decisions, and he's never been KOed, and he's kind of the last man standing of the second generation of UFC fighters.

We didn't catch the UFC around here back when Tito still won fights, we only had some Brazilian channel on cable who showed Pride and some brazilian fights so I didn't get to see Tito in his prime or something (watching his past fights when you know the outcome isn't the same) but he comes off as kind of an annoying asshole so I'm like "fuck that guy".

But I will say that watching the crowd go nuts when Tito pulled off the upset...that was kind of cool.

Tito did the right thing by stepping up to fight Evans. He looked good against Badar. I wonder what kind of deal Dana White had to do to make Tito step up. Or Tito came to his senses and realized that he has to take one for the team. Its a win win situation for him. If he wins the fight, his stock rises 100 fold. If he loses, people will give him his due for taking the fight on short notice, and Dana will not cut him.

[mullet_head]

I'm sure that not getting cut is one of the conditions, he may have gotten a few more fights squeezed into his contract. I'm glad this happened, I'm actually more interested in the event now.

[yeahbuddy]

I'm sure that not getting cut is one of the conditions, he may have gotten a few more fights squeezed into his contract. I'm glad this happened, I'm actually more interested in the event now.

Injuries this year have killed so many possible great fights.
I'm just glad the Kongo/Berry fight was an exciting fight.

[mullet_head]

Not only only that, when the injured fighter does return to the ring he's often not at the form he previously was so that kind of screws a fight.

[BD888]

I've never been a big fan of Ortiz, but I have been supporting in the last few years as he's had some really bad decisions, and he's never been KOed, and he's kind of the last man standing of the second generation of UFC fighters.

We didn't catch the UFC around here back when Tito still won fights, we only had some Brazilian channel on cable who showed Pride and some brazilian fights so I didn't get to see Tito in his prime or something (watching his past fights when you know the outcome isn't the same) but he comes off as kind of an annoying asshole so I'm like "fuck that guy".

But I will say that watching the crowd go nuts when Tito pulled off the upset...that was kind of cool.

Tito did the right thing by stepping up to fight Evans. He looked good against Badar. I wonder what kind of deal Dana White had to do to make Tito step up. Or Tito came to his senses and realized that he has to take one for the team. Its a win win situation for him. If he wins the fight, his stock rises 100 fold. If he loses, people will give him his due for taking the fight on short notice, and Dana will not cut him.

I thought Tito won the last Evans fight even with the point deduction. Evans is a different fighter now though, and Tito is the same, I think Tito gets out struck in this fight, and it will go to decision, with Evans winning. However, I think Dana and Joe Silva would prefer Tito to win, as he's a big PPV draw and a title fight with Tito in it, would bring big numbers. Chuck has to be pissed off.

[FullDJacket]

great KO in last nights boxing. Go to 2: 30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLkk3i4tMQw

[yeahbuddy]

great KO in last nights boxing. Go to 2: 30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLkk3i4tMQw

I prefer this at the 20 second mark.
http://fightnext.com/video/RW64SXH742N4 ... s--UFC-132

[caroline]

It may be because I'm a chick, but to really get behind a fighter I need them to have both a likeable personality and a great skill set. Silva, Ortiz, and Jones are undeniably good fighters, but I just don't like them, either because they have no personality (Silva) or they're assholes (Tito).

If you mean Anderson, he's hilarious in his interviews. How can a fighter that once danced and moon walked into the ring dressed as Michael Jackson, be a fighter that doesn't have personality. He wore a mask in the weighs with Vitor, and refused to speak English, and wouldn't even acknowledge Sonnen in their weigh ins.

I'm not a fan of show-boating. My thinking is that if the UFC doesn't want to be treated like WWE Raw (or whatever wrestling is called these days), the fighters shouldn't act like goofballs.

[FullDJacket]

great KO in last nights boxing. Go to 2: 30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLkk3i4tMQw

I prefer this at the 20 second mark.
http://fightnext.com/video/RW64SXH742N4 ... s--UFC-132

The KO is great but the swinging? Almost looked like blind boxing to me.

[yeahbuddy]

It may be because I'm a chick, but to really get behind a fighter I need them to have both a likeable personality and a great skill set. Silva, Ortiz, and Jones are undeniably good fighters, but I just don't like them, either because they have no personality (Silva) or they're assholes (Tito).

If you mean Anderson, he's hilarious in his interviews. How can a fighter that once danced and moon walked into the ring dressed as Michael Jackson, be a fighter that doesn't have personality. He wore a mask in the weighs with Vitor, and refused to speak English, and wouldn't even acknowledge Sonnen in their weigh ins.

I'm not a fan of show-boating. My thinking is that if the UFC doesn't want to be treated like WWE Raw (or whatever wrestling is called these days), the fighters shouldn't act like goofballs.

And Ali didnt act the fool?