Two Packers in the top 5 - looks like cheeseheads buy gear. No Manning in the top 5 and he's considered the face of the league. And these stats were compiled before he went down for the season. Maybe it's backlash against all the hype & commercials. Or maybe Manning fans don't buy his jerseys because they don't sell pink frilly #18's?
Once an idiot, always an idiot. Peyton is consistently in the top 5 of Jersey Sales. I don't know where you got your phony list. Probably made it up yourself. Here's an accurate list of the best selling jerseys of last year:
DOWN2WHISKEY wrote:
That is some funny shit P13!! The stats don't lie, Rodgers is by far a better QB than Favre at this stage of his career & actually far better than your lil' bitch-ass hero Peyton! BTW, Packers 4-0....Indy 0-4...SUCK ON THAT!!
You're right, the stats don't lie. Look at Rodgers' stats vs Peyton's last year, and tell me how they compare. I already know the answer.
Manning>Rodgers. Manning is the greatest QB of all time. Rodgers is a guy who inherited a great system and a shit load of talent around him., just like Favre said. Get back to me when he's won FOUR MVPs and even comes close to the stats Peyton has put up. THEN you can start comparing them.
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Two Packers in the top 5 - looks like cheeseheads buy gear. No Manning in the top 5 and he's considered the face of the league. And these stats were compiled before he went down for the season. Maybe it's backlash against all the hype & commercials. Or maybe Manning fans don't buy his jerseys because they don't sell pink frilly #18's?
Once an idiot, always an idiot. Peyton is consistently in the top 5 of Jersey Sales. I don't know where you got your phony list. Probably made it up yourself. Here's an accurate list of the best selling jerseys of last year:
That list only counts jersey sales from one outlet: NFLshop.com. It doesn't represent total sales. On top of that, the list goes through Sep. 30th. Most NFL jerseys are bought during the season, not the offseason. Obviously Peyton's numbers are going to take a hit since he's not playing.
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That list only counts jersey sales from one outlet: NFLshop.com. It doesn't represent total sales. On top of that, the list goes through Sep. 30th. Most NFL jerseys are bought during the season, not the offseason. Obviously Peyton's numbers are going to take a hit since he's not playing.
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A little poll for those on here inspired by Pinhead13.
If you were starting a team and had your choice between a 27 year old Aaron Rodgers and a 35 year old Peyton Manning(and assume he'll recover and play again), who do you take?
A: Rodgers
B: Manning
SkyDog112046 wrote:A little poll for those on here inspired by Pinhead13.
If you were starting a team and had your choice between a 27 year old Aaron Rodgers and a 35 year old Peyton Manning(and assume he'll recover and play again), who do you take?
A: Rodgers
B: Manning
I'd go with the 35-year-old who may never play another down in the NFL instead of the guy in his prime who is the best QB playing now and is coming off a Super Bowl ring.
SkyDog112046 wrote:A little poll for those on here inspired by Pinhead13.
If you were starting a team and had your choice between a 27 year old Aaron Rodgers and a 35 year old Peyton Manning(and assume he'll recover and play again), who do you take?
A: Rodgers
B: Manning
My vote......
You stupid fucking faggot.
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DOWN2WHISKEY wrote:
That is some funny shit P13!! The stats don't lie, Rodgers is by far a better QB than Favre at this stage of his career & actually far better than your lil' bitch-ass hero Peyton! BTW, Packers 4-0....Indy 0-4...SUCK ON THAT!!
You're right, the stats don't lie. Look at Rodgers' stats vs Peyton's last year, and tell me how they compare. I already know the answer.
Manning>Rodgers. Manning is the greatest QB of all time. Rodgers is a guy who inherited a great system and a shit load of talent around him., just like Favre said. Get back to me when he's won FOUR MVPs and even comes close to the stats Peyton has put up. THEN you can start comparing them.
You are right......the stats don't lie......only you do!! Granted, Peyton does own the best single season passer rating for what he did in 2004 but overall Rodgers>Manning for his career.....Rodgers has been a starter for only 4 years whereas Peyton has been starting 14 years, in 10 years we will see that Aaron Rodgers has eclipsed Peyton in every statistical category except being a fucking pansy and gayest fans!!!! FACT Read this & weep!
Green Bay - When he walked off the field at the Georgia Dome on Jan. 15, Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers knew he had made an address change.
No longer was he in great potential territory; he now was in the state of arrival.
That one performance against Atlanta in the playoffs - his best as a professional given the burden on his shoulders and the relevance of the game - raised the stakes for Rodgers more than any other, including his MVP showing in Super Bowl XLV.
It was during that game that a prime-time national television audience watched Rodgers run the Packers offense as if he invented it, ripping apart the 13-3 Falcons to the tune of 48 points and 442 yards.
He completed 31 of 36 passes for 366 yards and three touchdowns and ran twice for 13 yards and a touchdown. His 136.8 passer rating was only the fourth-highest of his career, but the 86.1 completion percentage blew away his previous best of 81.8.
"I think we'd all like just to put last year where it is," Rodgers said several days before the Packers play the Falcons in the Georgia Dome in prime time again Sunday. "Let's just leave it in last year. We had a great run through the playoffs, beat three really good teams on the way to the Super Bowl and beat a great Steeler team to win the championship. But it's a new team."
Rodgers can put that game behind him because, frankly, his play has been at that level through the first four games of this season.
He leads all quarterbacks in the NFL with a 124.6 rating, 13.3 points ahead of the next one in line, who just happens to be future Hall of Famer Tom Brady of the New England Patriots.
Passer rating was adopted in the NFL in 1973 after a special committee studied quarterback performances from 1960 and later in order to obtain a performance standard. They came up with a formula that requires these statistics: attempts, completions, yards, touchdowns and interceptions.
Under the formula, all it would take is one really bad performance - interceptions and low completion percentage are cement shoes when it comes to the final numbers - for a quarterback to be hurtled back to earth.
But Rodgers hasn't ridden the wave of one or two big performances.
He has posted a rating above 100 in four straight games and in seven of his last eight games. He currently holds all-time NFL records for career passer rating in both the regular season (100.5) and postseason (112.6).
"Some of his statistics through the first four games have just been unbelievable in terms of his quarterback rating and his completion percentage," Falcons coach Mike Smith said. "He's almost completing three out of four passes.
"There's no doubt he has a great understanding of the passing game that Coach (Mike) McCarthy has put together. He has a lot of weapons that you have to try to defend, and he seems to know where to go with the ball."
While Rodgers would prefer to focus on this season, the expectation that he would be this efficient began seven months ago. So on Sunday when he threw for 408 yards and four touchdowns - he also ran for two - against Denver, it didn't matter that it came against a 1-3 team.
This is the standard he has set.
"Yeah, we expect him to go out and play well," said receiver Jordy Nelson, one of Rodgers' favorite targets. "Do we expect him to throw for 400-some yards and have six touchdowns? That's another story.
"But we expect him to play well and he expects us to play well."
Accuracy and ball security are two of Rodgers' best attributes.
His career completion percentage of 65.1 barely trails all-time leader Chad Pennington (66.05) and runner-ups Kurt Warner (65.5) and Drew Brees (65.4). He ranks first all-time in lowest percentage of passes intercepted (1.94), just ahead of Neil O'Donnell (2.11) and Donovan McNabb (2.22).
"I just can't say enough about Aaron Rodgers' skill set and his ability to play the quarterback position completely, whether it's throwing it from the pocket, throwing it off-balance from the pocket, sliding and throwing the ball, moving out to his left and right," McCarthy said. "He has all that. Obviously he's blessed with a lot of innate ability to accomplish that."
On Sunday, the Falcons will be trying to exact some revenge against the Packers for the humiliating defeat at home in the playoffs. Doing that probably means finding a way to keep Rodgers' passer rating under 100, because through his career he is 26-7 when it's above 100.
Of course, the last time he lost with a rating above 100 was against the Falcons in the Georgia Dome last Nov. 28. But that was before the game that made Rodgers famous.
Now, it seems his number is rising.
"It doesn't mean a whole lot until after the season," Rodgers said of his passer rating. "I think it can be a good barometer of how you're playing. But the only number that matters is the wins. It might help you get awards, but it's something you look at after the season.
"But yeah, we're playing pretty well right now."
QB RATINGS
The NFL adopted a rating system for quarterbacks in 1973 that allowed it to compare passing performances from season to season. According to the NFL Record and Fact Book, four categories are used as a basis for computing a rating:
Completion percentage
Average yards gained per pass attempt
Percentage of touchdown passes per attempt
Percentage of interceptions per attempt
The average standard for each category is 1.0 based on previous quarterback performances, but a passer can receive a number as high as 2.375.
After the numbers are calculated for the four categories - the formula is very complicated - they are converted to a scale of 100. In general, any rating 100 or above is outstanding. The highest rating possible is 158.3.
The highest single-season mark was 121.1 by Indianapolis' Peyton Manning in 2004, when he completed 336 of 497 passes for 4,557 yards, 49 touchdown and 10 interceptions.
I hope you didn't think I was actually going to read that entire, worthless piece of drivel. I have the stat line from last year and it tells me all I need to know. Four MVPs tells me all I need to know. Rodgers has none. Peyton is already cemented as a hall of famer and arguably the best of all time. Rodgers has a long way to prove he is not a fluke.
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1. Dallas Cowboys
2. Washington Redskins
3. New England Patriots
4. New York Giants
5. New York Jets
6. Houston Texans
7. Philadelphia Eagles
8. Chicago Bears
9. Green Bay Packers
10. Baltimore Ravens
Indy is 11th. Maybe if Pinhead13 stops rooting for them their value will go up?
poizond13 wrote:
I hope you didn't think I was actually going to read that entire, worthless piece of drivel. I have the stat line from last year and it tells me all I need to know. Four MVPs tells me all I need to know. Rodgers has none. Peyton is already cemented as a hall of famer and arguably the best of all time. Rodgers has a long way to prove he is not a fluke.
Manning isn't even the best QB all time for his own team.
poizond13 wrote:
I hope you didn't think I was actually going to read that entire, worthless piece of drivel. I have the stat line from last year and it tells me all I need to know. Four MVPs tells me all I need to know. Rodgers has none. Peyton is already cemented as a hall of famer and arguably the best of all time. Rodgers has a long way to prove he is not a fluke.
Manning isn't even the best QB all time for his own team.
Well, to be fair, Johnny U disowned the Colts after their move, refusing to work with them in any capacity or be exploited by their douchebag ownership. So, unless we are talking about Don Majikowski or Jeff George, I'd say Manning does have a lock on the Indy Colts.
johnk5150 wrote:
Manning isn't even the best QB all time for his own team.
Well, to be fair, Johnny U disowned the Colts after their move, refusing to work with them in any capacity or be exploited by their douchebag ownership. So, unless we are talking about Don Majikowski or Jeff George, I'd say Manning does have a lock on the Indy Colts.
While true, I doubt Barry Levinson will be making a kickass Mickey Rourke movie with a Manning's Colts theme.
poizond13 wrote:
You're right, the stats don't lie. Look at Rodgers' stats vs Peyton's last year, and tell me how they compare. .
Rodgers owns the only stat that matters. He won the Super Bowl last year. Your guy lost in the first round. Manning is awesome, one of the best to ever play the game, but Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL right now.
Romo can't turn the ball over or cost his team the lead on Sunday.
Going to be a great week.
To be serious, the bye week comes at a great times.
Miles Austin and Dez Bryant can both return to 100% for their next game
at New England(fucking tough place to win anytime of year).
poizond13 wrote:
You're right, the stats don't lie. Look at Rodgers' stats vs Peyton's last year, and tell me how they compare. .
Rodgers owns the only stat that matters. He won the Super Bowl last year. Your guy lost in the first round. Manning is awesome, one of the best to ever play the game, but Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL right now.
Oh look, yet ANOTHER idiot who thinks it takes one player to win a ring. This isn't the NBA boy, this is football, the ultimate team sport. Aaron Rodgers didn't win the Super Bowl last year, the Packers did. And Rodgers is not the best QB in the league right now. There's 3-4 players I'd rank ahead of him, easily.
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HMJ wrote:I'm a Saints fan (obviously) but even I can admit that Aaron Rodgers is killing it this year, dude.
Let it go, the Colts' time at the top with Manning is over. The dude will be 36 years old next season when he's back. The future ain't too bright.
Peyton is the ultimate competitor. He will work harder than anyone else to rehab and get his body to where it needs to be. There's no doubt in my mind that when he comes back, he'll quickly return to the MVP player he's been for the past ten years. There's no one else like Peyton in the NFL when it comes to his work ethic, preparation, and his singular focus on the game of football. No one works as hard, no one understands the game better than him. Sure he'll be 36, but Peyton has never relied solely on his arm strength and athletic skills to make him the player that he is. His mental abilities and his accuracy are what sets him apart. He can pick apart a defense and figure out exactly what they're going to do before the play even starts. He knows where to go with the ball every time. His release time and footwork are impeccable. None of those things will diminish with age. If anything, Peyton can come back and have the best 4-5 seasons of his career. That might sound crazy but it would not surprise me at all.
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poizond13 wrote:He can pick apart a defense and figure out exactly what they're going to do before the play even starts. He knows where to go with the ball every time. His release time and footwork are impeccable.
poizond13 wrote:He can pick apart a defense and figure out exactly what they're going to do before the play even starts. He knows where to go with the ball every time. His release time and footwork are impeccable.
poizond13 wrote:
You're right, the stats don't lie. Look at Rodgers' stats vs Peyton's last year, and tell me how they compare. .
Okay...
Rodgers had a better QB rating.
Rodgers had better Yards per attempt.
Rodgers had a better TD/Int ratio.
Rodgers had about 340 yards more rushing.
Rodgers had 4 more rushing TDs.
Moggio wrote:You see, the problem with you is that you act like I have no credibility or something.
PhoenixFlames wrote:AVATAR made 2.7 billion which (maths) is close to 3 x million millions!!!!!!
poizond13 wrote:
You're right, the stats don't lie. Look at Rodgers' stats vs Peyton's last year, and tell me how they compare. .
Okay...
Rodgers had a better QB rating.
Rodgers had better Yards per attempt.
Rodgers had a better TD/Int ratio.
Rodgers had about 340 yards more rushing.
Rodgers had 4 more rushing TDs.
-Peyton threw for 800 more yards. 800!
-Peyton had almost 100 more completions.
-Peyton had a higher completion percentage
-Peyton had more touchdowns.
-Peyton was sacked 16 times, Rodgers 31. And the Colts O-line was weak and in flux all year so don't give me any excuses on this. Rodgers' release is slower and he holds the ball too long.
These are the stats that matter, not rushing stats and made up stats like the QB rating. QB rating= worthless.
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