NFL 2011 Thread

[HMJ]

I can definitely tell you that if anything happened to Brees, we'd be capital fucked. Everyone I know would agree. I really wish we had a veteran behind him instead of Chase Daniel.

[Facedown]

I have to laugh at other people complaining about their teams' injury situations. You folks have it EASY compared to what we are dealing with. We have had the most people on IR for the past two consecutive years, and it aint even close. And don't even get me started about the magnitude of players who have been out. It's nothing to be proud of, but those are the facts.

I have to laugh, and always do, at the troll who said the Colts would go to the Super Bowl this year after all of the injuries last year. Everybody would be back healthy and bullshit. Then when Peyton was hurt it was all we will be fine until he comes back bullshit and now it's crybaby bullshit time.
Cry me a river, trollboy. The Colts SUCK and that's a FACT.

[bane]

ALL teams suffer injuries. The bad ones go 0-13. The good ones win their division. The mediocre ones are the Bears.

The really good ones win the Super Bowl. (See Green Bay last year. They had something like 16 guys on IR. )

[bane]

I have to laugh at other people complaining about their teams' injury situations. You folks have it EASY compared to what we are dealing with. We have had the most people on IR for the past two consecutive years, and it aint even close. And don't even get me started about the magnitude of players who have been out. It's nothing to be proud of, but those are the facts.

Last year the Colts did a really good job with a shit ton of injuries. This year, they're less banged up than most and other than Peyton, they don't have much to complain about. The loss of Peyton Manning is obviously devastating, but your GM should have had a viable back up plan in place. Peyton is awesome, but he's not immortal. The way that team is constructed and the way they scheme, they weren't going to go far without Manning because nobody else can run that offense, but they could have won 6-8 games if they'd been prepared. It's not as if Manning went down mid season. They had time to get their shit together. If I was Irsay, I'd be pissed off and heads would be rolling.

[Crazy Levi]

I have to laugh at other people complaining about their teams' injury situations. You folks have it EASY compared to what we are dealing with. We have had the most people on IR for the past two consecutive years, and it aint even close. And don't even get me started about the magnitude of players who have been out. It's nothing to be proud of, but those are the facts.

Last year the Colts did a really good job with a shit ton of injuries. This year, they're less banged up than most and other than Peyton, they don't have much to complain about. The loss of Peyton Manning is obviously devastating, but your GM should have had a viable back up plan in place. Peyton is awesome, but he's not immortal. The way that team is constructed and the way they scheme, they weren't going to go far without Manning because nobody else can run that offense, but they could have won 6-8 games if they'd been prepared. It's not as if Manning went down mid season. They had time to get their shit together. If I was Irsay, I'd be pissed off and heads would be rolling.

Caldwell is obviously a terrible coach. Dungy left and basically they just made Peyton the coach. Obviously he isn't a good coach of any offense that doesn't include Peyton.

The Colts are a mess. They should can Caldwell as a "yes man" and team manager obviously isn't going to cut it in the post-Peyton era.

[bane]

I have to laugh at other people complaining about their teams' injury situations. You folks have it EASY compared to what we are dealing with. We have had the most people on IR for the past two consecutive years, and it aint even close. And don't even get me started about the magnitude of players who have been out. It's nothing to be proud of, but those are the facts.

Last year the Colts did a really good job with a shit ton of injuries. This year, they're less banged up than most and other than Peyton, they don't have much to complain about. The loss of Peyton Manning is obviously devastating, but your GM should have had a viable back up plan in place. Peyton is awesome, but he's not immortal. The way that team is constructed and the way they scheme, they weren't going to go far without Manning because nobody else can run that offense, but they could have won 6-8 games if they'd been prepared. It's not as if Manning went down mid season. They had time to get their shit together. If I was Irsay, I'd be pissed off and heads would be rolling.

Caldwell is obviously a terrible coach. Dungy left and basically they just made Peyton the coach. Obviously he isn't a good coach of any offense that doesn't include Peyton.

The Colts are a mess. They should can Caldwell as a "yes man" and team manager obviously isn't going to cut it in the post-Peyton era.

I agree. I'd be shocked if they didn't fire Caldwell. He's in over his head.

[Rainbow Bright]

And the season has officially hit an all time low.

Dec 15, 2011 - Sam Hurd has a problem and it's not playing time with the Chicago Bears. According to the Dallas Morning News, Hurd was arrested on Wednesday night on federal drug charges. Hurd is a former Dallas Cowboy and the charges came out of Dallas, according to the report.

On the plus side, you guys did pick up Rip Hamilton.

[poizond13]

This year, they're less banged up than most and other than Peyton, they don't have much to complain about.

Are you out on a mission to prove your ignorance time and time again????

https://twitter.com/#!/ClaytonESPN/stat ... 4967118848

The Colts lead the NFL with 83 missed starts because of injuries. Panthers are next with 80 NYG, StL and OAK tied for third with 65

No team has been more affected by injury in 2011 or 2010 than us. This is a sad fact. It is hard to field a winning team when you're missing that many players, most of them starters. We weathered the storm last year, but this year we could not overcome the loss of our best player, among the countless other injuries we've incurred. Among the players besides Manning on IR or who've missed extended time:

- Starting Safety Melvin Bullitt
- Starting MLB Gary Brackett
- Starting CB Jerraud Powers
- Starting RB Joseph Addai
- Starting LT Anthony Costanzo
- Starting TE Dallas Clark
- Starting WR Anthony Gonzalez
- Starting QB Kerry Collins
- Starting DT Drake Nevis
- Starting DT Eric Foster
- Starting RG Ben Ijalana
- Starting RT Ryan Diem
- CB Terrance Johnson

... and I could go on. There's not one area of our team not decimated by injuries. Yes, I realize injuries happen to every team, but certainly not to this degree.

[poizond13]

ALL teams suffer injuries. The bad ones go 0-13. The good ones win their division. The mediocre ones are the Bears.

How many teams in NFL history have lost a 4X MVP one week before the season started? Please let me know, I'll wait.

[poizond13]

The loss of Peyton Manning is obviously devastating, but your GM should have had a viable back up plan in place. Peyton is awesome, but he's not immortal. The way that team is constructed and the way they scheme, they weren't going to go far without Manning because nobody else can run that offense, but they could have won 6-8 games if they'd been prepared. It's not as if Manning went down mid season. They had time to get their shit together. If I was Irsay, I'd be pissed off and heads would be rolling.

Wrong on several counts. In regards to getting a backup for Peyton, you answered your own question. Without Peyton, we are an under .500 team, no matter who we have as a backup. You can sign a quality backup, but that will set you back at other positions. You will give up being able to sign 1-2 quality starters in other positions. So our philosophy, and it is the correct one, is to go all out to try and win with Peyton, knowing that no matter who our backup QB is, we would not have a winning team. This strategy worked for the past 13 years. I'm not going to say it was a poor strategy after one losing season.

Lastly, there was NOT time to plan extensively to having a season without Peyton. It was always assumed that Peyton would miss 3-4 games at most. The initial thought when training camp began was that Peyton would return on time. It was not until one week before the season that we learned that Peyton would miss extensive time. Signing Kerry Collins 3 weeks before the season was the best possible move at that time, knowing that Peyton might miss, at most, 3-4 games.

[ElmoLynchFox]

prolly stirring the pot here, but what are the chances peyton plays at all this year. only 3 games left and nothing to play for ('cept caldwell's job, perhaps) but do you think they'd put him out there so teams who might be interested in trading for him would have some post surgery film to evaluate?

[bane]

This year, they're less banged up than most and other than Peyton, they don't have much to complain about.

Are you out on a mission to prove your ignorance time and time again????

https://twitter.com/#!/ClaytonESPN/stat ... 4967118848

The Colts lead the NFL with 83 missed starts because of injuries. Panthers are next with 80 NYG, StL and OAK tied for third with 65

No team has been more affected by injury in 2011 or 2010 than us. This is a sad fact. It is hard to field a winning team when you're missing that many players, most of them starters. We weathered the storm last year, but this year we could not overcome the loss of our best player, among the countless other injuries we've incurred. Among the players besides Manning on IR or who've missed extended time:

- Starting Safety Melvin Bullitt
- Starting MLB Gary Brackett
- Starting CB Jerraud Powers
- Starting RB Joseph Addai
- Starting LT Anthony Costanzo
- Starting TE Dallas Clark
- Starting WR Anthony Gonzalez
- Starting QB Kerry Collins
- Starting DT Drake Nevis
- Starting DT Eric Foster
- Starting RG Ben Ijalana
- Starting RT Ryan Diem
- CB Terrance Johnson

... and I could go on. There's not one area of our team not decimated by injuries. Yes, I realize injuries happen to every team, but certainly not to this degree.

2010, yes. 2011, other than Manning, you've lost less than most teams in the league. That is fact.

[bane]

The loss of Peyton Manning is obviously devastating, but your GM should have had a viable back up plan in place. Peyton is awesome, but he's not immortal. The way that team is constructed and the way they scheme, they weren't going to go far without Manning because nobody else can run that offense, but they could have won 6-8 games if they'd been prepared. It's not as if Manning went down mid season. They had time to get their shit together. If I was Irsay, I'd be pissed off and heads would be rolling.

Wrong on several counts. In regards to getting a backup for Peyton, you answered your own question. Without Peyton, we are an under .500 team, no matter who we have as a backup. You can sign a quality backup, but that will set you back at other positions. You will give up being able to sign 1-2 quality starters in other positions. So our philosophy, and it is the correct one, is to go all out to try and win with Peyton, knowing that no matter who our backup QB is, we would not have a winning team. This strategy worked for the past 13 years. I'm not going to say it was a poor strategy after one losing season.

Lastly, there was NOT time to plan extensively to having a season without Peyton. It was always assumed that Peyton would miss 3-4 games at most. The initial thought when training camp began was that Peyton would return on time. It was not until one week before the season that we learned that Peyton would miss extensive time. Signing Kerry Collins 3 weeks before the season was the best possible move at that time, knowing that Peyton might miss, at most, 3-4 games.

The Denver Broncos did it, in season. You had an entire camp. If nobody but your starter can run the regular offense, a smart team has their backup and scout team working on one they can run. Quarterbacks go down, and you weren't prepared. Period.

[poizond13]

2010, yes. 2011, other than Manning, you've lost less than most teams in the league. That is fact.

???? Can you not read boy???

John Clayton's tweet was from 2 weeks ago, not 2010.

The Colts lead the NFL with 83 missed starts because of injuries. Panthers are next with 80 NYG, StL and OAK tied for third with 65

The only FACT is that we've missed more starts this year from injury than any other team in the league.

[poizond13]

The Denver Broncos did it, in season. You had an entire camp. If nobody but your starter can run the regular offense, a smart team has their backup and scout team working on one they can run. Quarterbacks go down, and you weren't prepared. Period.

Are you really going to compare Denver's situation to ours with a straight face? Denver never had a quality starting QB. They still don't. They win games on defense and running the ball. We've always won games by putting up points on the board and executing on offense. You can't play our style of football without a quality QB. That has been our problem this year. With Peyton, we are a ten win team once again. We brought in Kerry Collins, a talented player who would have certainly guided us to 5-6 wins, but he got injured. We were then left with a a guy, in Curtis Painter, who could not get the job done. Now Orlovsky is in there and he isn't doing much better. I won't begrudge the team for not carrying a better backup. Yeah, with a more capable backup maybe we have 5-6 wins this year. Then again, if we'd invested in a quality backup, maybe we don't win a Super Bowl in 2006. I will gladly take the trade off. Winning 5 games is not a good season anyway, I'd rather win 1 and have the top draft pick.

[Machado]

P13 has once again come up with another excuse for why his precious
Colts are winless to date.

If the boy had any class, he would not stoop this low.

[cantstopthemusic]

The Denver Broncos did it, in season. You had an entire camp. If nobody but your starter can run the regular offense, a smart team has their backup and scout team working on one they can run. Quarterbacks go down, and you weren't prepared. Period.

We brought in Kerry Collins, a talented player who would have certainly guided us to 5-6 wins, but he got injured.

Try POSSIBLY two wins ... IF (big IF) you were REALLLLLLY "lucky!"

[demolition23]

ALL teams suffer injuries. The bad ones go 0-13. The good ones win their division. The mediocre ones are the Bears.

How many teams in NFL history have lost a 4X MVP one week before the season started? Please let me know, I'll wait.

Patriots lost a three times Superbowl winning, QB coming off possibly the greatest statistical season in the history of the NFL in the first game of the season. They still managed to win a bunch of games.

But the point is not that the Colts have had it tough... It's that they've capitulated... Shown nothing, and not even won one game.

[demolition23]

We've always won games by putting up points on the board and executing on offense. You can't play our style of football without a quality QB.

...and yet the Colts didn't have a quality backup. Given they play that style, that is clearly an example of incredible short-sightedness and bad management on their part.

[MickeyG]

Another blow out last night. Too many games on TV now? Shit games have to make it on national television? The myth of parity exploded again.

[johnk5150]

ALL teams suffer injuries. The bad ones go 0-13. The good ones win their division. The mediocre ones are the Bears.

Calling the Bears mediocre is being generous.

[johnk5150]

And the season has officially hit an all time low.

Dec 15, 2011 - Sam Hurd has a problem and it's not playing time with the Chicago Bears. According to the Dallas Morning News, Hurd was arrested on Wednesday night on federal drug charges. Hurd is a former Dallas Cowboy and the charges came out of Dallas, according to the report.

On the plus side, you guys did pick up Rip Hamilton.

Any time you say 'less Korver' it's a good thing.

[bane]

The Denver Broncos did it, in season. You had an entire camp. If nobody but your starter can run the regular offense, a smart team has their backup and scout team working on one they can run. Quarterbacks go down, and you weren't prepared. Period.

Are you really going to compare Denver's situation to ours with a straight face? Denver never had a quality starting QB. They still don't. They win games on defense and running the ball. We've always won games by putting up points on the board and executing on offense. You can't play our style of football without a quality QB. That has been our problem this year. With Peyton, we are a ten win team once again. We brought in Kerry Collins, a talented player who would have certainly guided us to 5-6 wins, but he got injured. We were then left with a a guy, in Curtis Painter, who could not get the job done. Now Orlovsky is in there and he isn't doing much better. I won't begrudge the team for not carrying a better backup. Yeah, with a more capable backup maybe we have 5-6 wins this year. Then again, if we'd invested in a quality backup, maybe we don't win a Super Bowl in 2006. I will gladly take the trade off. Winning 5 games is not a good season anyway, I'd rather win 1 and have the top draft pick.

You are in no position to ridicule the Broncos. They're winning their division. You are 0-13. My point was that Denver changed their system to suit the available personnel. Are you going to tell me that with all that pro bowl talent the Colts have, you couldn't have done the same?

[Crazy Levi]

0-13

Never in history has a division-winning team gone 0-13 the next year.

It boggles the fucking mind. It's hilarious seeing p13 trying to attribute it to an injury. He STILL has no idea of the magnitude of this team's epic collapse.

Because he's a retard.

You just know those fuckers are gonna go 0-16, that'll be awesome.

Of course, god forbid they actually manage to win ONE fucking game this season...p-13's victory party is going to be just as hilarious as if they had gone 0-16. We can't lose!

[WTF]

Robert Mathis - 36 tackles. Dwight Freeney - 17 tackles.

[bane]

I dont think P13 realizes the ridiculous amount of luck that has gone into having a starting QB go 13 years without missing a snap. "It worked for 13 years, why change it" is exactly what has led to an 0-13 season so far.

[johnk5150]

I have to laugh at other people complaining about their teams' injury situations.

Fuck that. I can complain about the organization not bothering to field a decent team around the only good player in the Bears offense and being too fucking cheap to sign a decent backup for that one good player. The Bears stuck their head in the sand and crossed their fingers that nothing would happen to Cutler.

We're talking about an organization that signed a fucking drug kingpin AFTER a federal investigation was already focusing on him. Nice due diligence, Jerry.

I just heard that you can make 906,000 pot cigarettes from the amount of weed Hurd was buying weekly. That's a lot of ganj.

[Crazy Levi]

Robert Mathis - 36 tackles. Dwight Freeney - 17 tackles.

Oh, that's because Peyton is out.

You lose your Hall of Fame QB and show me how many tackles YOUR star DT gets!!

POISON RULES!!!

[WTF]

Fuck that. I can complain about the organization not bothering to field a decent team around the only good player in the Bears offense and being too fucking cheap to sign a decent backup for that one good player. The Bears stuck their head in the sand and crossed their fingers that nothing would happen to Cutler.

And what about having Barber as the backup to your other good offensive player...? Ugh. And I liked Barber in his first few years at Dallas.

[johnk5150]

Fuck that. I can complain about the organization not bothering to field a decent team around the only good player in the Bears offense and being too fucking cheap to sign a decent backup for that one good player. The Bears stuck their head in the sand and crossed their fingers that nothing would happen to Cutler.

And what about having Barber as the backup to your other good offensive player...? Ugh. And I liked Barber in his first few years at Dallas.

I appreciate Barber's effort, but yeah. He runs angry and that's about it.