NFL 2011 Thread

[SkyDog112046]

I absolutely believe it. Don't be shortsighted and ignorant. Bill is a 5X executive of the year and a hall of fame executive. He's turned two different franchises into perennial contenders. His record speaks for itself.

Polian went0-4 in Superbowls with Buffalo and 1-1 with Indy. Good regular seasons followed by post season flame outs. He's the GM version of Schottenheimer.

[Tymaster]

I absolutely believe it. Don't be shortsighted and ignorant. Bill is a 5X executive of the year and a hall of fame executive. He's turned two different franchises into perennial contenders. His record speaks for itself.

Polian went0-4 in Superbowls with Buffalo and 1-1 with Indy. Good regular seasons followed by post season flame outs. He's the GM version of Schottenheimer.

Good analogy.

[bigbuttskinner]

This is great news about Indy! HA! So, the Polians are out and they're looking for a new GM. Caldwell, by all accounts, should be fired. Let the coaching search begin. The whole Manning ordeal still hangs in the balance; can he play ever again? Gotta think about who to re-sign; Saturday, Mathis, Wayne, Garcon? Get ready for the draft and get who? Luck? Trade the top spot for more picks?

Loving the chaos in Indy. Welcome to a brave new world you cheeky bastards!

[Tymaster]

This is great news about Indy! HA! So, the Polians are out and they're looking for a new GM. Caldwell, by all accounts, should be fired. Let the coaching search begin. The whole Manning ordeal still hangs in the balance; can he play ever again? Gotta think about who to re-sign; Saturday, Mathis, Wayne, Garcon? Get ready for the draft and get who? Luck? Trade the top spot for more picks?

Loving the chaos in Indy. Welcome to a brave new world you cheeky bastards!

Always fun to watch the mighty tumble! This organization went from first class to absolute trash in a New York second.

[HMJ]

Saints defense has really looked a lot better the past few weeks. No close call games. Just dominant blowouts. I'm liking our chances against the 49ers and Packers. The Lions of course.....well....in the dome....dead men walking.

[Tymaster]

Saints defense has really looked a lot better the past few weeks. No close call games. Just dominant blowouts. I'm liking our chances against the 49ers and Packers. The Lions of course.....well....in the dome....dead men walking.

Also, the Packers defense can be scored upon. You're chances are good. But man, it's tough to win in Lambeau.

[Crazy Levi]

Saints defense has really looked a lot better the past few weeks. No close call games. Just dominant blowouts. I'm liking our chances against the 49ers and Packers. The Lions of course.....well....in the dome....dead men walking.

Here's the problem: The Saints have NEVER won a road playoff game. They couldn't even beat the 7-9 Seahawks last year.

And they'll have to win at least one to get to the Super Bowl.

I don't like their chances.

[Tymaster]

Saints defense has really looked a lot better the past few weeks. No close call games. Just dominant blowouts. I'm liking our chances against the 49ers and Packers. The Lions of course.....well....in the dome....dead men walking.

Here's the problem: The Saints have NEVER won a road playoff game. They couldn't even beat the 7-9 Seahawks last year.

And they'll have to win at least one to get to the Super Bowl.

I don't like their chances.

Conversely, streaks like that have to end. And the longer the streak the greater the chance of it ending. Like Tampa and the cold weather thing.

[Machado]

There are many changes in the immediate future for the Cowboys and a new team with a new attitude will be taking the field this September.

I think you are wrong. There is always a bit of change season to season, but the Cowboys team that takes the field in 2012 is going to look a lot like the one that choked last night.

Wholesale changes are to come.
I already posted names of several players who are too old now or
just are not producing enough to remain a member of the Cowboys.

DB's need a major upgrade. Not sure if there is a free agent that can be the remedy or if the draft will have a bigger impact.

Romo was not the problem.
The offense was not the problem.

The #1 problem was a few individuals on defense that were unable to perform at a high level.

[poizond13]

I absolutely believe it. Don't be shortsighted and ignorant. Bill is a 5X executive of the year and a hall of fame executive. He's turned two different franchises into perennial contenders. His record speaks for itself.

Polian went0-4 in Superbowls with Buffalo and 1-1 with Indy. Good regular seasons followed by post season flame outs. He's the GM version of Schottenheimer.

Again, you are a stupid fuck. You can't blame any Super Bowl losses on Polian. He assembles the talent. He doesn't play in any games, he doesn't coach, and he has nothing to do with how the team plays in any given game.

[NeonKnite]

[bane]

There are many changes in the immediate future for the Cowboys and a new team with a new attitude will be taking the field this September.

I think you are wrong. There is always a bit of change season to season, but the Cowboys team that takes the field in 2012 is going to look a lot like the one that choked last night.

Wholesale changes are to come.
I already posted names of several players who are too old now or
just are not producing enough to remain a member of the Cowboys.

DB's need a major upgrade. Not sure if there is a free agent that can be the remedy or if the draft will have a bigger impact.

Romo was not the problem.
The offense was not the problem.

The #1 problem was a few individuals on defense that were unable to perform at a high level.

How is this different from every other Cowboys breakdown over the past 15 or so years? Who drafted those players? Who hired those coaches that can't get them motivated? What makes you think that a new crop of players or coaches brought in by the same guy who has failed time after time are going to be any different?

[bane]

Saints defense has really looked a lot better the past few weeks. No close call games. Just dominant blowouts. I'm liking our chances against the 49ers and Packers. The Lions of course.....well....in the dome....dead men walking.

Here's the problem: The Saints have NEVER won a road playoff game. They couldn't even beat the 7-9 Seahawks last year.

And they'll have to win at least one to get to the Super Bowl.

I don't like their chances.

Conversely, streaks like that have to end. And the longer the streak the greater the chance of it ending. Like Tampa and the cold weather thing.

While your point is well taken, the Saints haven't performed all that well on the road this year. They've been two different teams. At home, they're unbeatable. On the road, they lose to the Rams. I kind of agree with Levi. Their chances aren't great.

[demolition23]

I absolutely believe it. Don't be shortsighted and ignorant. Bill is a 5X executive of the year and a hall of fame executive. He's turned two different franchises into perennial contenders. His record speaks for itself.

Polian went0-4 in Superbowls with Buffalo and 1-1 with Indy. Good regular seasons followed by post season flame outs. He's the GM version of Schottenheimer.

Again, you are a stupid fuck. You can't blame any Super Bowl losses on Polian. He assembles the talent. He doesn't play in any games, he doesn't coach, and he has nothing to do with how the team plays in any given game.

If you can't blame him for losses, you can't credit him for the success of getting to the Superbowl either.

[SkyDog112046]

Again, you are a stupid fuck. You can't blame any Super Bowl losses on Polian. He assembles the talent. He doesn't play in any games, he doesn't coach, and he has nothing to do with how the team plays in any given game.

Polian's draft picks and signings have led to a 1-5 record in the Superbowl. That's on him just as much as it is the coaches and players. I'll give him a pass on "wide right" in SB XXV and even on Manning's game blowing pick-6 in SB XLIV but he's 1-3 in those other games. No way you can put the 52-17 beating his team took in SB XXVII solely on the players and coaches.

His Colts teams are 9-10 in the playoffs. Seven times his Colts have lost their first playoff game, and most of the time it has happened after winning 12+ games in the regular season. Granted, Manning usually sucks in the playoffs, but it's also an indictment on the guy who built the rosters. Polian built a dome team that lacks the toughness to play outside and it usually comes back to bite them in the ass.

Argue all you want, but facts are facts.

[WOLF]

Broncos are 8 point underdogs at home vs the Steelers. I don't see how that line is going to compell anyone to bet on Denver. Vegas is either going to win, or lose, a ton on this game. All the money will be on the Steelers, running game or not.

[SkyDog112046]

Broncos are 8 point underdogs at home vs the Steelers. I don't see how that line is going to compell anyone to bet on Denver. Vegas is either going to win, or lose, a ton on this game. All the money will be on the Steelers, running game or not.

An 8 point home dog is an 11 point line on a neutral field which would be 2 TDs if the game was in Pittsburgh. It doesn't matter where this game is played, it could be in Tebow's back yard and it would still be a blowout. No way it's closer than 3 TDs when the game counts unless something freakish happens. This line will be double digits by game time.

Granted Denver has one of the best homefield advantages in sports because of the altitude but it's not going to make up for an offense that can't score against one of the best defenses in the league. Pitt doesn't need Mendenhall to run. Redman is tough to between the tackles. This has the makings of a 28-3 game.

[WTF]

An 8 point home dog is an 11 point line on a neutral field which would be 2 TDs if the game was in Pittsburgh. It doesn't matter where this game is played, it could be in Tebow's back yard and it would still be a blowout. No way it's closer than 3 TDs when the game counts unless something freakish happens. This line will be double digits by game time.

Granted Denver has one of the best homefield advantages in sports because of the altitude but it's not going to make up for an offense that can't score against one of the best defenses in the league. Pitt doesn't need Mendenhall to run. Redman is tough to between the tackles. This has the makings of a 28-3 game.

If Tebow is kept in the pocket and the Steelers hold there edges, this will be ugly.

[johnk5150]

Saints defense has really looked a lot better the past few weeks. No close call games. Just dominant blowouts. I'm liking our chances against the 49ers and Packers. The Lions of course.....well....in the dome....dead men walking.

Here's the problem: The Saints have NEVER won a road playoff game. They couldn't even beat the 7-9 Seahawks last year.

We purposely C-sectioned our second son on Thursday before the NFC Championship game so we could be home for Saints @ Bears. If the Saints had won that game I was going to change my son's name from Andrew (we call him Drew) to anything else.

[AliceManson]

Saints defense has really looked a lot better the past few weeks. No close call games. Just dominant blowouts. I'm liking our chances against the 49ers and Packers. The Lions of course.....well....in the dome....dead men walking.

Here's the problem: The Saints have NEVER won a road playoff game. They couldn't even beat the 7-9 Seahawks last year.

And they'll have to win at least one to get to the Super Bowl.

I don't like their chances.

49ers can and will beat them. Their defense can hold them back, Alex Smith is the only problem. He has to be able to score in the redzone and they can't settle for field goals. But I have faith in them, they almost beat the Aints last year with Singletary coaching.

[johnk5150]

Jerry Angelo, you will notice the key to your office doesn't work anymore. Take your ass and your shitty draft picks to another team.

Sincerely,

The Bears

[bane]

Jerry Angelo, you will notice the key to your office doesn't work anymore. Take your ass and your shitty draft picks to another team.

Sincerely,

The Bears

I get the feeling you aren't quite as broken up about it as P13 is with Polian.

[Machado]

That record does not mean anything now that the playoffs are here.
Every team is 0-0.

If the pack fail to win the SB, the season for them will be categorized as a failure.

[Tenacious_Dio]

If the pack fail to win the SB, the season for them will be categorized as a failure.

Same goes for the Saints, Pats, Ravens and Steelers.

[El Metalico]

"Philosophical diferences..."

Reading about all those teams' general managers firings makes me wish there were a higher power on the Cowboys organization to fire that stupid Jerry Jones.

But there aren't

So, here it comes Cowboys 2012 season...

[chadcroz]

Saints defense has really looked a lot better the past few weeks. No close call games. Just dominant blowouts. I'm liking our chances against the 49ers and Packers. The Lions of course.....well....in the dome....dead men walking.

Also, the Packers defense can be scored upon. You're chances are good. But man, it's tough to win in Lambeau.

If the weather becomes an issue, I almost think that Lambeau will hurt the Packers more than it will help them. Especially if they end up hosting San Fran. The Packers have a high flying scoring offense with a terrible defense. I don't think they would lose indoors. San Fran has the power running game and good defense that could possibly beat them in a bad weather game. So far the Packers haven't had to deal with poor weather since it's been such a mild winter.

[Tymaster]

Saints defense has really looked a lot better the past few weeks. No close call games. Just dominant blowouts. I'm liking our chances against the 49ers and Packers. The Lions of course.....well....in the dome....dead men walking.

Also, the Packers defense can be scored upon. You're chances are good. But man, it's tough to win in Lambeau.

If the weather becomes an issue, I almost think that Lambeau will hurt the Packers more than it will help them. Especially if they end up hosting San Fran. The Packers have a high flying scoring offense with a terrible defense. I don't think they would lose indoors. San Fran has the power running game and good defense that could possibly beat them in a bad weather game. So far the Packers haven't had to deal with poor weather since it's been such a mild winter.

While I agree with your logic, I just can't fathom any scenario where playing in Green Bay hurts the Packers. That whole town lives, eats, breathes, and shits, the Pack. Plus, despite a mild winter (that is barely a week old) Green Bay is still a cold ass lake town compared to the SF and NO.

[WOLF]

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Warm weather, and dome, teams typically don't fare well in Green Bay, so having home field should be a big advantage for the Pack over SF or NO. I can't see the Packers having much competition until they face the Ravens, Steelers, or Pats in the Superbowl - the former being my pick.

A division rival, like the Lions, or the Giants, might have better shots at winning in Green Bay.

[Tymaster]

Norv Turner retained! Glad I'm not a Chargers fan.

[HMJ]

I'm not going all gusto here...but I'm sure the Saints will beat the 49ers....and then when it comes to GB, it will at least be very good game.