The NFL Thread

[johnk5150]

Why is Andy Reid back at practice a day after putting another kid in the ground?

People deal with stuff different ways. Could be sitting at home wouldn't be the best way for him to deal with it.

Is he still married? I couldn't just kiss my wife goodbye a day later and head to the office.

[Machado]

HBO Hard Knocks with Dolphins debuted last night.
I fell asleep 30 minutes into the program.

Felt bad for the undrafted free agent OL that was cut before the 1st practice.
The kid checked into his room, was unpacking his belongings and was cut from the 90 man roster before he could put on the pads.

[Crazy Levi]

Dude's got a football team to coach.

His kids have been a complete mess for a decade. The "there for the family" ship has sailed in this case, obviously.

Sad thing is he still doesn't have a Lombardi to show for it..just a decade plus of solid, winning teams.

[johnk5150]

Dude's got a football team to coach.

Good point. It's not like their opponents are going to take it easy on them because he lost his kids.

[bane]

Like I said before, RG3 will be a bust. Yeah, he's big, he's fast, and has a cannon for an arm. So did JaMarcus Russell. Means NOTHING. RG3 never played in a pro system. It remains to be seen whether or not he can adapt to the NFL game, which is vastly different to what he's used to. We'll see if he can handle it mentally. My money is on NO.

They said the same thing about Cam Newton last year. Right down to the JaMarcus Russell comparisons.

The only thing RG3 has in common with Russell is that he's black. RG3 has everything scouts look for in a franchise QB. He's got size, a cannon arm, accuracy, speed, leadership ability, and he's fucking smart. All accounts are that he has a bad ass work ethic too. He's got a better shot at sticking than most other highly drafted QBs. Playing in a pro type system in college doesn't mean shit. How many of those highly touted "pro ready" USC QBs have panned out?

[johnk5150]

Jay Cutler had a son today. Haven't seen a tweet from Maurice Jones Drew questioning it's toughness because it was crying.

[St_Augustines_Pears]

Jay Cutler had a son today. Haven't seen a tweet from Maurice Jones Drew questioning it's toughness because it was crying.

[Machado]

Like I said before, RG3 will be a bust. Yeah, he's big, he's fast, and has a cannon for an arm. So did JaMarcus Russell. Means NOTHING. RG3 never played in a pro system. It remains to be seen whether or not he can adapt to the NFL game, which is vastly different to what he's used to. We'll see if he can handle it mentally. My money is on NO.

They said the same thing about Cam Newton last year. Right down to the JaMarcus Russell comparisons.

The only thing RG3 has in common with Russell is that he's black. RG3 has everything scouts look for in a franchise QB. He's got size, a cannon arm, accuracy, speed, leadership ability, and he's fucking smart. All accounts are that he has a bad ass work ethic too. He's got a better shot at sticking than most other highly drafted QBs. Playing in a pro type system in college doesn't mean shit. How many of those highly touted "pro ready" USC QBs have panned out?

You go!!!
I strongly agree with what you said about the USC QB's that were destined for greatness.
Leinart
Sanchez
Those are have not met their high expectations after being drafted.
I've said this a million times, but drafting a QB is a HUGE risk.
Some teams can find their franchise QB in Round 1 and other teams
have found the same caliber of player via the Undrafter Free Agent route

[Crazy Levi]

I strongly agree with what you said about the USC QB's that were destined for greatness.
Leinart
Sanchez
Those are have not met their high expectations after being drafted.
I've said this a million times, but drafting a QB is a HUGE risk.
Some teams can find their franchise QB in Round 1 and other teams
have found the same caliber of player via the Undrafter Free Agent route

Don't forget about Marinovich...though that was really just another Raiders blunder, the guy had obvious character issues.

[Machado]

I strongly agree with what you said about the USC QB's that were destined for greatness.
Leinart
Sanchez
Those are have not met their high expectations after being drafted.
I've said this a million times, but drafting a QB is a HUGE risk.
Some teams can find their franchise QB in Round 1 and other teams
have found the same caliber of player via the Undrafter Free Agent route

Don't forget about Marinovich...though that was really just another Raiders blunder, the guy had obvious character issues.

The Raiders forte is to draft a QB very high in the draft that
has no business being drafted.

[Crazy Levi]

So I can't be only one watching preseason football.

yeah, it's terrible. But I got to see RG3 play a couple series. So far so good (4-6, TD)

Stuck in 2nd string/rex grossman hell now so I think I'll call it a night. How did Peyton do tonight?

[bane]

So I can't be only one watching preseason football.

yeah, it's terrible. But I got to see RG3 play a couple series. So far so good (4-6, TD)

Stuck in 2nd string/rex grossman hell now so I think I'll call it a night. How did Peyton do tonight?

I'm watching the nfl network feed that shows highlights from all the games. Manning looked pretty rusty. 4-7 with an INT. Vick hurt his throwing hand by hitting somebody's helmet and RG3 looked like anything but a bust.

[poizond13]

Peyton didn't look rusty at all. In fact he looked great, other than one bad pass. He moved around well, and his throws looked crisp. He looked like the same old Peyton to me, and that is coming from someone who's watched every snap he's ever taken in his professional career. It's bittersweet to finally see him back on the field, but in another jersey. But the past is the past.

[cantstopthemusic]

He looked like the same old Peyton to me, and that is coming from someone who's watched every snap he's ever taken in his professional career.

Sure you have, Greggles.

Sure you have.

[poizond13]

Even though it sucks seeing him in another jersey, I can't help but feel happy for Peyton. For the last 15 months he's busted his ass day in and day out, not knowing when, or if, he'd ever be able to play again. All those long hours of rehab without the reward of actually being able to play the game. All those dark days of people doubting that he'd ever play again. Peyton is the definition of hard work and perseverance. A lot of people would have crumbled and retired. Lots of people said he should retire. But Peyton had a mission. He wasn't going out like that, not on those terms. He'll go out on his terms, when he's ready. And he still has a lot to prove. Knowing Peyton, he will not stop working until he's accomplished everything he wants to accomplish. That's why he's the greatest to ever play the game, bar none. It's not his arm strength, his accuracy, or his pocket presence, even though those are all second to none. It's the things he does off the field, his work ethic, his preparation, and his knowledge of the game, that make him the #1 NFL player in history.

Looking ahead to Andrew Luck, you can never expect him to be another Peyton Manning. Those only come along once in a lifetime. You can, however, expect him to look at the things that Peyton did, and aspire to do those same things that made Peyton great. The work ethic, the dedication, the unbridled desire to WIN no matter how much work it takes, are what Luck will need to succeed. He only needs to look back on the past 14 years of Colts history to understand how to do that.

[bane]

Peyton didn't look rusty at all. In fact he looked great, other than one bad pass. He moved around well, and his throws looked crisp. He looked like the same old Peyton to me, and that is coming from someone who's watched every snap he's ever taken in his professional career. It's bittersweet to finally see him back on the field, but in another jersey. But the past is the past.

Out of 7 passes he threw one INT and was lucky not to have another one. That's not "same old Peyton". It didn't look like it was a health thing though. He just looked like he wasn't real tight with his recievers yet to me.

[poizond13]

Peyton didn't look rusty at all. In fact he looked great, other than one bad pass. He moved around well, and his throws looked crisp. He looked like the same old Peyton to me, and that is coming from someone who's watched every snap he's ever taken in his professional career. It's bittersweet to finally see him back on the field, but in another jersey. But the past is the past.

Out of 7 passes he threw one INT and was lucky not to have another one. That's not "same old Peyton". It didn't look like it was a health thing though. He just looked like he wasn't real tight with his recievers yet to me.

The interception was a good pass, and the receiver blew an easy TD by bobbling it into the defenders hands. Yeah, like I said he did have one bad pass that could have been picked. He made a few nice throws that went for nice gains. Protection was good. Yeah, the stat line wasn't pretty, but if you watched the game it was a different story. For the first series of the first preseason game, he looked great.

[bane]

It was behind the receiver. That wasn't a "good pass". The other one he threw right to a linebacker who had it bounce off his hands and his receiver caught it. Both of those were bad passes. 2 bad throws out if 7 attempts isn't up to that guy's standards. A couple of those incompletions were drops and that corner pass to the end zone should have been a TD though. I don't think he looked awful or anything. He looked like a guy playing his first preseason game with a new team and a bunch of receivers he doesn't know well yet.

[Facedown]

Knowing Peyton, he will not stop working until he's accomplished everything he wants to accomplish.

Like finishing his career as a Colt?

That's why he's the greatest to ever play the game, bar none.

No, he's not.

He only needs to look back on the past 14 years of Colts history to understand how to do that.

So, he'll understand how to go 9-10 in the playoffs but suck even worse since he's no Peyton?
Awesome.

[Crazy Levi]

RG3 leads 80-yard touchdown jaunt for Redskins, looks every bit the star
By Doug Farrar

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... --nfl.html



Not a bad debut for the Redskins' new superstar. (Getty Images)Once he got the hang of the NFL, second-overall pick Robert Griffin III looked a lot like the Baylor quarterback who ripped up defense after defense — but there were interesting new wrinkles as well.

Griffin played through the Redskins' first three drives in their 7-6 preseason opening road win against the Buffalo Bills. While Griffin showed the arm strength and mobility we all know from his college highlights, he also displayed excellent pocket presence, the ability to process multiple reads, and a real feel for play action. And unlike some QBs who run heavy shotgun in college, Griffin didn't look uncomfortable in his dropbacks from under center.

[johnk5150]

The Bears don't play well without Urlacher, Forte, Peppers and Cutler.

[Machado]

I heard a report today that the reason NFL officials have been locked out
is over a measly $12K
You have to be kidding me!
The NFL is a multi billion dollar industry and these 2 groups can not agree
on a $12,000 raise.

[Crazy Levi]

This guy makes P13 look the total amateur hour bitch he is. THIS is my kind of homer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMLGR1rt ... e=youtu.be

As far as the refs? This shit is a fucking nightmare and total disaster waiting to happen. If this is allowed to happen, these guys will get someone killed, and/or drastically affect key games to the point where the season will be a complete joke. They HAVE to fix this. Scab refs are NOT an option.

In last night's Bills/Skins game, the Bills downed a punt on the Redskins' 5 yard line. The FIVE. Not the one.

And the refs called it down in the endzone and gave the Skins the ball on the 20. I'm not kidding. They reviewed it and reversed their mistake. This was the biggest blunder I saw but there were other questionable things. These scabs have no idea what they are doing.

[johnk5150]

yeah, it's terrible. But I got to see RG3 play a couple series. So far so good (4-6, TD)

Stuck in 2nd string/rex grossman hell now so I think I'll call it a night. How did Peyton do tonight?

You're going to love the rookie.

Peyton looked fine, but the shitty Bears defense never made it close to him.

[johnk5150]

I heard a report today that the reason NFL officials have been locked out
is over a measly $12K
You have to be kidding me!
The NFL is a multi billion dollar industry and these 2 groups can not agree
on a $12,000 raise.

They want $400 more per ref per game. Goddell is going to look really bad here if they aren't back working by the time the games matter.

[Machado]

I heard a report today that the reason NFL officials have been locked out
is over a measly $12K
You have to be kidding me!
The NFL is a multi billion dollar industry and these 2 groups can not agree
on a $12,000 raise.

They want $400 more per ref per game. Goddell is going to look really bad here if they aren't back working by the time the games matter.

The process is ridiculous.
Give the ref's there money and move onto something much more important.

[johnk5150]

I heard a report today that the reason NFL officials have been locked out
is over a measly $12K
You have to be kidding me!
The NFL is a multi billion dollar industry and these 2 groups can not agree
on a $12,000 raise.

They want $400 more per ref per game. Goddell is going to look really bad here if they aren't back working by the time the games matter.

The process is ridiculous.
Give the ref's there money and move onto something much more important.

Like keeping your fucking players off the police blotter.

Seriously, the hall of fame game had ZERO holding calls. Really? In the first PRESEASON game, no lineman had to grab a shoulder pad?

I'd like to add the Bears look like shit.

[NeverSurrender]

0 holding calls? And the packers weren't playing?

[Crazy Levi]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike- ... ement-refs

NFL memo tells teams not to talk about replacement officials
By Mike Freeman | National NFL Insider

August 9, 2012 11:58 am ET
65 | Comments

If you're wondering why so few team officials or coaches are talking about replacement game officials -- who so far have been absolutely dreadful -- there's a reason. The league has told teams to shut the hell up about them.

The league has instructed teams not to discuss the lockout or the officials and has even offered teams a list of talking points if somehow they are forced into a position to discuss the lockout or officials.

"As discussed in our recent oonference calls," the memo says, "it's imperative that your entire organization welomes these officials and provides them with an environment that maximizes their training opportunities and encourages their development."

The memo later states: "Finally, we remind you that club personnel should not engage in public discussions about the lookout. We have attached some talking points for use by owners and a separate set of talking points for use by head coaches, if necessary. If you are asked about the negotiations or the replacement offcials, feel free to refer the question to our office. Please share these expectations with your coaches, players and operations staff so that all may contribute to the success of our officials on the field in 2012."

The memo is important for two reasons. First, the league has expressed great confidence in the officials, but if they are confident, why not let team executives and coaches discuss them?

Second, the tone of the memo indicates the NFL is ready to play the season, or a good chunk of it, with replacement offiials which, to me, would be a huge mistake.

The league has also set this up perfectly. If the officials screw up, the players will rip them, but the league is requesting teams not to say anything publicly. So the criticism will only come from players. Thus the criticism won't be as heavy as it could be. It's brilliantly devious.

And the lockout continues...

[Crazy Levi]

The other thing about the ref lockout for me...these guys are almost STARS now. I mean, can you imagine not seeing Ed Hockule this season?

The refs have become very visible with repay and mics, and we've gotten very used to them. I'm sure I'm not the only one who had a "who the fuck are these guys?" feeling when watching the preseason game.