The NFL Thread

[johnk5150]

That's the Jay Cutler I was betting against.

[NeverSurrender]

That's the Jay Cutler I was betting against.

You must be totally addicted to gambling. Why would somebody bet against their own team instead of just not betting?

[johnk5150]

That's the Jay Cutler I was betting against.

You must be totally addicted to gambling. Why would somebody bet against their own team instead of just not betting?

Just in the Sludge Pick Em. I'm always hedging head vs heart and usually right.

[Crazy Levi]

So the Vikings are 0-10 lifetime against the Baltimore/Indianoplace Colts.

Could this be the year? Jared Allen has to be licking his chops at the thought of getting a piece of the amateurish, undisciplined rookie Andrew Luck.

Thoughts/Coginations?

[NeverSurrender]

So the Vikings are 0-10 lifetime against the Baltimore/Indianoplace Colts.

I didn't know that, but it's weird, you posted it. The other day i was trying to remember a game we beat them in, and couldn't.

The last time we played them Manning came back in the fourth quarter. I still say the Vikes are better than they are getting credit for. The biggest weakness in the secondary, imo. Or the coaching staff.

[NeverSurrender]

I do feel very good about my prediction that the Vikes will have a better record than the Bears at the end of the season after that fail they pulled last night.

[Crazy Levi]

I do feel very good about my prediction that the Vikes will have a better record than the Bears at the end of the season after that fail they pulled last night.

The Bears will get their wins but they don't get to play the Colts every week.

I haven't watched a lot of Cutler (except for a game a year or so ago when he threw 5 or 6 INTs vs. the Redskins) but I was shocked at how a veteran like him lost his shit once things started going sour. They never really out of that game until the end but he was getting into fights and screaming at his teammates...I don't see them as ready for prime time. And that is some of the worst line play I've seen in a while.

And did anybody notice how Packers and Bears players were getting "chippy?" I did, because that obnoxious NFL Network color guy used the word about 35 times. And to add insult to injury, I had to watch that shitty broadcast in extremely low def on my laptop because Time Warner and NFL Network STILL haven't sorted their shit out.

[NeverSurrender]

Chippy? welcome to the NFC North.

Cutler has the worst body language on the planet for an NFL qb. Look at all the qbs over the years who won multiple super bowls. They all have one thing in common. They all are cool customers during the game, and in crunch time.

Bart Starr
Bob Griese
Roger Staubach
Terry Bradshaw
Joe Montana
John Elway
Phil Simms
Tom Brady

Look at a guy like Marino. he was never cool and clam, and always yelling at his teammates. Even look at Favre. totally reckless, throwing the ball up for grabs, but he never looked scared, and always looked like he knew he was going to win. Even right before he blew it.

Cutler will never win anything. Ever.

[Crazy Levi]

Cutler will never win anything. Ever.

Dayum!

John, any thoughts/assertions on that matter?

[bane]

I don't mean to disrespect Griffin, I was just standing up for Luck. Just because P13 likes him doesn't mean he's going to be the next Ryan Leaf.

I doubt anybody here really thinks Luck will be a Ryan Leaf. Leaf had major character flaws. Luck doesn't. It's way to early to know how good he'll ultimately become, but it is fun rubbing P13's nose in it after he said he thought Griffin would be a bust. Personally, I think both of those guys will probably have long and productive careers.

[Crazy Levi]

I don't mean to disrespect Griffin, I was just standing up for Luck. Just because P13 likes him doesn't mean he's going to be the next Ryan Leaf.

I doubt anybody here really thinks Luck will be a Ryan Leaf. Leaf had major character flaws. Luck doesn't. It's way to early to know how good he'll ultimately become, but it is fun rubbing P13's nose in it after he said he thought Griffin would be a bust. Personally, I think both of those guys will probably have long and productive careers.

Yeah that's pretty much it.

Though there is something about Luck I can't quite put my finger on. I thought he had a Peyton Manning "Awww shucks" thing going on, but I'm starting to wonder if he's just kind of dumb.

[bane]

Cutler will never win anything. Ever.

Dayum!

John, any thoughts/assertions on that matter?

I suspect John might agree with that prediction. He seems to be pretty fatalistic when it comes to his team.

[Drunk Kennedy]

real good read about the zone reads that RGIII has to make...and how delicate the handoff (if you can even call it that) with alfred morris has to be.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ns/?page=1

[johnk5150]

So the Vikings are 0-10 lifetime against the Baltimore/Indianoplace Colts.

Could this be the year? Jared Allen has to be licking his chops at the thought of getting a piece of the amateurish, undisciplined rookie Andrew Luck.

Thoughts/Coginations?

Luck is better than people think. I'd bet the Vikings defense would tell you so. He made mistakes but most rookies do.

[johnk5150]

Cutler will never win anything. Ever.

Dayum!

John, any thoughts/assertions on that matter?

I suspect John might agree with that prediction. He seems to be pretty fatalistic when it comes to his team.

Giving Jay Cutler those wide receivers with that horrible FUCKING line is the equivalent of painting a Rolls Royce primer colored. He could win...if he lives. Don't confuse being a first class dick with being a loser.

[bane]

Warren Moon and Doug Williams are two of the slowest guys to ever put their hands under center cheeks at the pro level.

True, but they don't have much company.

[NeverSurrender]

Bane, john is inching closer to being J13 when it comes to the Bears.

He's a realist when it comes to the Cubs, but not so much about the Bears.

His line blows, but a couple of those sacks were him hanging in the pocket too long. You can also throw the ball away or eat it, and not throw it to the team with the puke colored uniforms.

[NeverSurrender]

Warren Moon and Doug Williams are two of the slowest guys to ever put their hands under center cheeks at the pro level.

True, but they don't have much company.

Byron Leftwich

[Crazy Levi]

Cutler sure doesn't look like a winner to me.

[Machado]

Cutler pulled an A. Luck and then some last night vs GB

Maybe Cutler should keep his mouth shut more often.

[bane]

Bane, john is inching closer to being J13 when it comes to the Bears.

He's a realist when it comes to the Cubs, but not so much about the Bears.

His line blows, but a couple of those sacks were him hanging in the pocket too long. You can also throw the ball away or eat it, and not throw it to the team with the puke colored uniforms.

At least one of those picks wasn't really his fault, but yeah, Cutler looked like crap last night. That wasn't text book leadership on display anyway.

[Crazy Levi]

How much longer does Lovie Smith get, anyway?

I know he took the Bears back to the big game but that was years ago.

[Machado]

Can someone here recommend a reputable online betting
site?
I've finally decided to play some NFL, CFB games, but I have no idea
which sites are best/worst, etc....

Any help would be appreciated.

[sin]

It's going to be kinda funny if after two weeks the Vikings lead the NFC North.

[wickedsensation]

I do feel very good about my prediction that the Vikes will have a better record than the Bears at the end of the season after that fail they pulled last night.

The Bears will easily have a better record...

[NeverSurrender]

I do feel very good about my prediction that the Vikes will have a better record than the Bears at the end of the season after that fail they pulled last night.

The Bears will easily have a better record...

We will see.

[crabfan]

Is it Sunday yet???

[bigbuttskinner]

Anyone predicting an upset or two?

Ravens vs. Eagles
Cowboys vs. Seahawks
Patriots vs. Cardinals
Bengals vs. Browns
Panthers vs. Saints

[NeverSurrender]

I do feel very good about my prediction that the Vikes will have a better record than the Bears at the end of the season after that fail they pulled last night.

The Bears will easily have a better record...

How easy will it be? By how many games will they have a better record? How many more games will they win?

[bane]

Anyone predicting an upset or two?

Ravens vs. Eagles
Cowboys vs. Seahawks
Patriots vs. Cardinals
Bengals vs. Browns
Panthers vs. Saints

Ravens
Cowboys
Pats
Bengals
Saints

No idea who is supposed to win some of those games, but those would be my picks.