Fuck these replacement refs!!!

[poizond13]

What you, or anyone else, can't and won't explain is why the refs refuse to take any agreement that includes fair performance evaluations and possible discipline for poor performance. You people seem to ignore it like the plague, even though it's one of the main issues they are bargaining about. So tell me, why can't the refs be evaluated on their performance?

But here's the thing - WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK.

It has been PROVEN that this is not the same game with the scabs. The NFL needs the actual, real union refs. All other conditions are secondary.

What the fuck should I care about their evaluations and performance? Those are just bullshit tools the NFL wants to use to fuck with the refs. It's got NOTHING to do with quality officiating or the integrity of the game.

Are you so retarded that you don't understand that? The NFL has PROVEN that they don't care about that shit.

It's just a bunch of greedy billionaires trying to fuck with their workforce - same as any other corporation. This needs to end now, and the NFL needs to cave, or postpone/cancel the season. Continuing as is is a fucking joke.

I can't WAIT till the Colts get fucked by one of these scab crews. It's going to be absolutely hilarious seeing you contradict EVERYTHING you've said about refs over the last month. Another page for the MARK MY WORDS thread.

What a moronic post. So you admit you "DON'T CARE" about the quality of the game, long term. You're only interested in the short term aspect of improving the game marginally? You think like a 5 year old. Typical short-sighted idiot. The NFL DOES want to improve the game. Want to know why? Because they realize in the LONG RUN, that will equal more $$ for them. They are businessmen above all. So yes, improving the game is the smart business move. And the fact is, the NFL is trying to improve the game by forcing refs to undergo evaluations, and replacing poor officials with better ones. I really don't get why ANY NFL fan would be against that. Clearly the end result would be better officiating in the long run.

Sounds to me like you're just a pro-union guy who will side with the regular refs no matter what. You're not interested in improving the game, just the political aspect of having a union prevail. Look, I'm not against unions, I'm only interested in seeing the game improved. Clearly you don't care about that.

I can't WAIT till the Colts get fucked by one of these scab crews. It's going to be absolutely hilarious seeing you contradict EVERYTHING you've said about refs over the last month. Another page for the MARK MY WORDS thread.

Hey moron, guess what? IT ALREADY HAPPENED! Just check out the colts forum. This past week the refs were horribly one sided in favor of the Jaguars. They pretty much cost us the game. I didn't want to say anything about it because I made a guarantee that I would not mention refs as an excuse anymore. I'm only mentioning it here to prove to you that it DOES NOT change my stance on this issue.

[SkyDog112046]

Nobody gives a fuck about the ref's union. But the games are clearly being compromised by the replacement ref's ineptitude, and people do care about that. This can't continue for even one more game. The season is turning into a joke and the NFL needs to do whatever it takes to fix things before they play another snap.

[NeverSurrender]

That shit was karma. The Packers have had more calls than any team in the history of American sports.

Now their fans are protesting and boycotting.

Check out December 8th 2002, and how the NFL quietly ran off Walt Coleman and his crooked staff after 8 blown calls in the 4th quarter of a four point game. 2 years ago the vikes got another letter of the NFL saying sorry after Shank caught a ball, it was ruled a caatch and then overturned. The NFL sent us another letter saying it shouldn't have been overturned. Now it's Gay bay's turn to get a letter. i said it week 1. These refs suck, but at least they don't kiss Gay Bay's ass.

When we get fucked over by regular refs in almost every Vikes Pack game, the Packer fans tell us to "deal with it" and if you played better "you "would've overcome it." Now they are using words like "integrity" and protesting. lol maybe you shouldn't have given up 8 sacks in a half. And how come nobody talks about the PI that lead to GB's touchdown? Or the mugging Charles Woodson didn't get called for 3 plays before that. he didn't turn around to look at the ball, still mugged him and no call.

8 bad calls in one 4th quarter is way worse than one bumbling call by another bumbling staff. I knew this was going to happen, and I'm glad it happened to them. Watch them get a whole bunch of calls Sunday to make up for this vs Goodell's team the Saints.

Green bay, i don't feel sorry for you. Quit crying.

[Kamikaze_Russo]

[johnk5150]

I can't WAIT till the Colts get fucked by one of these scab crews. It's going to be absolutely hilarious seeing you contradict EVERYTHING you've said about refs over the last month. Another page for the MARK MY WORDS thread.

That call on Monday, even though it happened in week 3 could wind up fucking another NFC team out of a wild card game at the end of the year if Seattle winds up in the playoffs.

[NeverSurrender]

I thought meathead claimed last week you couldn't lose a game because of refs?

John, you're a bears fan. You should know the packers have won many times because of the refs. It all works out in the end, with scab refs.





I'm not saying it's right, but i understand.

[WTF]

I love how you and every other idiot supporter of the refs ignores the fact that I already stated, numerous times, I don't mind the refs getting paid. I don't mind them getting their benefits. The good ones should. My problem with them, as stated over and over again, is their desire to avoid performance evaluations and discipline. Seems like you idiots keep ignoring this fact, because you can't defend it.

Cum gargler, why don't you address what I posted above?

There's nothing to address. I already said numerous times, I don't have a problem with the refs getting their financial/benefit demands. That includes their pension. I never said they were in the wrong on that.

What you, or anyone else, can't and won't explain is why the refs refuse to take any agreement that includes fair performance evaluations and possible discipline for poor performance. You people seem to ignore it like the plague, even though it's one of the main issues they are bargaining about. So tell me, why can't the refs be evaluated on their performance?

Cock jockey, you keep saying the major sticking point is the performance evaluation aspect. I clearly showed you (with an internal NFL ref union memo) that you are wrong. The major sticking point is their pension. Admit you are wrong.

[Crazy Levi]

I thought meathead claimed last week you couldn't lose a game because of refs?

John, you're a bears fan. You should know the packers have won many times because of the refs. It all works out in the end, with scab refs.





I'm not saying it's right, but i understand.

Huh?!

I never said that fatass.

[johnk5150]

I thought meathead claimed last week you couldn't lose a game because of refs?

John, you're a bears fan. You should know the packers have won many times because of the refs. It all works out in the end, with scab refs.





I'm not saying it's right, but i understand.

The Packers win more than the Bears because they're better. I don't like seeing the Bears ahead of GB in the standings because of what went down Monday.

[Facedown]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KNeRBXvcWg

[Machado]

The blame goes to the owners and Goodell.
They all took a chance, a huge risk in order to
save a few dollars.

Now they all have egg on their face and showing
they have not guts or integrity.

[sin]

That shit was karma. The Packers have had more calls than any team in the history of American sports.

Now their fans are protesting and boycotting.

Check out December 8th 2002, and how the NFL quietly ran off Walt Coleman and his crooked staff after 8 blown calls in the 4th quarter of a four point game. 2 years ago the vikes got another letter of the NFL saying sorry after Shank caught a ball, it was ruled a caatch and then overturned. The NFL sent us another letter saying it shouldn't have been overturned. Now it's Gay bay's turn to get a letter. i said it week 1. These refs suck, but at least they don't kiss Gay Bay's ass.

When we get fucked over by regular refs in almost every Vikes Pack game, the Packer fans tell us to "deal with it" and if you played better "you "would've overcome it." Now they are using words like "integrity" and protesting. lol maybe you shouldn't have given up 8 sacks in a half. And how come nobody talks about the PI that lead to GB's touchdown? Or the mugging Charles Woodson didn't get called for 3 plays before that. he didn't turn around to look at the ball, still mugged him and no call.

8 bad calls in one 4th quarter is way worse than one bumbling call by another bumbling staff. I knew this was going to happen, and I'm glad it happened to them. Watch them get a whole bunch of calls Sunday to make up for this vs Goodell's team the Saints.

Green bay, i don't feel sorry for you. Quit crying.

Agreed. Still being a fan of the Seahawks and living in MI I thought I would be in for hell at work on Tuesday. Nope most of them feel the same way. It was a bad call but Green Bay had it coming after all the years of favoritism in the NFC North.

[NeverSurrender]

I thought meathead claimed last week you couldn't lose a game because of refs?

John, you're a bears fan. You should know the packers have won many times because of the refs. It all works out in the end, with scab refs.





I'm not saying it's right, but i understand.

The Packers win more than the Bears because they're better. I don't like seeing the Bears ahead of GB in the standings because of what went down Monday.

Yeah, they probably didn't like being on top when they got those 8 calls against the Vikings in the fourth quarter and the next day the officials got fired. But they told us to deal with it. So we did. No boycotts, no protests, just a letter saying sorry from the NFlL. Now they can get their letter. What about the other shitty 15 calls in the game? Some that went their way.

[NeverSurrender]

I thought meathead claimed last week you couldn't lose a game because of refs?

John, you're a bears fan. You should know the packers have won many times because of the refs. It all works out in the end, with scab refs.





I'm not saying it's right, but i understand.

Huh?!

I never said that fatass.

You're right, baldy meathead.

I do apologize. You said this:

But bitching about them because of a loss (though P13, you've gotta admit you are frequently guilty of this bitch move) is about as whiny as it gets.

I actually never said the Vikes lost because of the refs, but the packer fans have. I hope you are carrying this same attitude with the packers fans, ESPN for the hype and every other fan blaming the refs. I know.. I know.. 10 bad calls versus one team in a game ins't as bad as one bad call on the last play of the game. But make sure you let them all know there is no whining allowed about refs.

[NeverSurrender]

That shit was karma. The Packers have had more calls than any team in the history of American sports.

Now their fans are protesting and boycotting.

Check out December 8th 2002, and how the NFL quietly ran off Walt Coleman and his crooked staff after 8 blown calls in the 4th quarter of a four point game. 2 years ago the vikes got another letter of the NFL saying sorry after Shank caught a ball, it was ruled a caatch and then overturned. The NFL sent us another letter saying it shouldn't have been overturned. Now it's Gay bay's turn to get a letter. i said it week 1. These refs suck, but at least they don't kiss Gay Bay's ass.

When we get fucked over by regular refs in almost every Vikes Pack game, the Packer fans tell us to "deal with it" and if you played better "you "would've overcome it." Now they are using words like "integrity" and protesting. lol maybe you shouldn't have given up 8 sacks in a half. And how come nobody talks about the PI that lead to GB's touchdown? Or the mugging Charles Woodson didn't get called for 3 plays before that. he didn't turn around to look at the ball, still mugged him and no call.

8 bad calls in one 4th quarter is way worse than one bumbling call by another bumbling staff. I knew this was going to happen, and I'm glad it happened to them. Watch them get a whole bunch of calls Sunday to make up for this vs Goodell's team the Saints.

Green bay, i don't feel sorry for you. Quit crying.

Agreed. Still being a fan of the Seahawks and living in MI I thought I would be in for hell at work on Tuesday. Nope most of them feel the same way. It was a bad call but Green Bay had it coming after all the years of favoritism in the NFC North.

Amen.

And John, we don't have the problems with packers the Bears do. Our rivalry is almost dead even. Take away all the times they got the game handed to them, and we would be ahead. That's how close it is. You notice I don't claim the Lions or Bears get more calls, and i hate the Bears just as much. I've seen way too many calls go their way to feel sorry for them. I couldn't care less whether we are in first or not. If the Vikes were 0-3, I'd still be loving it. Fuck 'em. Of course you probaly lost money because of the play.

[Crazy Levi]

I think you missed the whole point of that thing, fatass. It wasn't directed at you, or anybody instead of P13.

I apologize again. Bitch about the refs all you want, go for it. Bitch bitch bitch bitch.

Besides what are you bitching about? Aren't the Vikes 2-1? You should be a happy camper. Lighten up, fatty.

[NeverSurrender]

Yes, me being happy the scab refs gave teh packers what they deserve is not being happy.......

I only said how happy it made me 15 times.

BTW, 10 more pounds down. That's 50 gone. Pretty soon i won't be fat anymore, and you still won't have any hair.

[Luminiferous]

Just check out the colts forum. This past week the refs were horribly one sided in favor of the Jaguars. They pretty much cost us the game.

Could you imagine an entire forum of Greg's?

[Crazy Levi]

Yes, me being happy the scab refs gave teh packers what they deserve is not being happy.......

I only said how happy it made me 15 times.

BTW, 10 more pounds down. That's 50 gone. Pretty soon i won't be fat anymore, and you still won't have any hair.

"Fat you can lose, but hair never comes back"

-Joey Ramone

[johnk5150]

First play the game tonight, I hope the offensive line false starts in unison so the real refs can have a 5 minute ovation .

[WTF]

"Fat you can lose, but hair never comes back"

-Joey Ramone

Looking at that quickly I thought it said Joey Fatone...

[johnk5150]

And John, we don't have the problems with packers the Bears do. Our rivalry is almost dead even. Take away all the times they got the game handed to them, and we would be ahead. That's how close it is. You notice I don't claim the Lions or Bears get more calls, and i hate the Bears just as much. I've seen way too many calls go their way to feel sorry for them. I couldn't care less whether we are in first or not. If the Vikes were 0-3, I'd still be loving it. Fuck 'em. Of course you probaly lost money because of the play.

I've made exactly three wagers this season. I'd have been pissed if I had dough on GB Monday.