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Machado wrote:As a Cowboys fan I had no choice but to cheer for
a Skins victory last night.
Gives Dallas a better chance to make the playoffs as a wild card or
division winner.
Dallas sucks and they are not a factor.

It's between the Giants and the Skins at this point.

I was at the stadium on Sunday night though n Dallas. It's the most awesome football stadium ever. It's amazing in every way.

Some very friendly Mexicans in the parking lot had a massive tailgate, and were serving up goat, chicken, and beef.
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I'll bet they wouldn't have been quite so friendly if they knew you were a Skins fan. They'd have still served you some cabrito, but they'd have snuck a couple ass burners in there for you.
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bane wrote:I'll bet they wouldn't have been quite so friendly if they knew you were a Skins fan. They'd have still served you some cabrito, but they'd have snuck a couple ass burners in there for you.
After a few drinks I told them. Everybody was pretty cool, because we all hate the Eagles. And, Cowboys fans were all rooting for the Skins to beat the Giants as well.

And I tried some assburner...they had this homemade hot sauce that is honest to god the spiciest thing I've ever had. It helped the goat go down though, which was pretty chewy.
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Anybody catch the Tomlin - Harbaugh handshake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRCyX9G1N2s

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Crazy Levi wrote:
bane wrote:I'll bet they wouldn't have been quite so friendly if they knew you were a Skins fan. They'd have still served you some cabrito, but they'd have snuck a couple ass burners in there for you.
After a few drinks I told them. Everybody was pretty cool, because we all hate the Eagles. And, Cowboys fans were all rooting for the Skins to beat the Giants as well.

And I tried some assburner...they had this homemade hot sauce that is honest to god the spiciest thing I've ever had. It helped the goat go down though, which was pretty chewy.
People in Texas are generally friendly, even to yankees. Goat is pretty funky, but far from the worst thing Mexicans eat. Those folks will eat damn near anything. Probably why they invented hot sauce.
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Crazy Levi wrote:
Machado wrote:As a Cowboys fan I had no choice but to cheer for
a Skins victory last night.
Gives Dallas a better chance to make the playoffs as a wild card or
division winner.
Dallas sucks and they are not a factor.

It's between the Giants and the Skins at this point.

I was at the stadium on Sunday night though n Dallas. It's the most awesome football stadium ever. It's amazing in every way.

Some very friendly Mexicans in the parking lot had a massive tailgate, and were serving up goat, chicken, and beef.
typical answer from a skins fan.
i guess the giants suck now after the game last night.
ok whatever!
Giants have a 1 game lead in division over Dallas with 4 games remaining.
Anything can happen
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Machado wrote:
Crazy Levi wrote: Anything can happen
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It can, but it won't. Levi is right, the Cowboys suck.
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I was going to make a point about how Luck played against the worst defense of the 3 Quarterbacks opponents against the Pass. Oops wrong.

Chicago Bears 8th
Detroit Lions 18th
New York Giants 22

I also looked up how all three teams are doing with their QB this year in conjunction with last year in the case of the Colts I went back to the 2010 season.

Redskins have 1 more win already than last season
Seattle is tied with 7 wins so far verse 7 all last year.
Peyton Mannings last year as a Colt gave them 10 wins which is very doable for Luck at the rate he is playing.
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Since I know so many people here love online blogs/articles and form all of their opinions on football based upon them....

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1432 ... to-week-14

"However, of the two, Robert Griffin III, is the Rookie of the Year front-runner through 12 games because his season to this point has been nothing short of amazing. Here's one interesting stat that greatly favors RG3: Andrew Luck has had four games in which he's thrown two interceptions or more. In three of those games, he's thrown three interceptions.

RG3 has thrown four interceptions through 12 games. For any quarterback that is remarkable, but for a rookie quarterback it's almost unheard of.

Griffin also has the edge because he's already made history, and could make even more. On Monday night he passed Cam Newton for the most rushing yards by a rookie quarterback. With four games to go and his total now standing at 714 yards rushing, Griffin is 325 yards away from breaking the single-season rushing mark for an NFL quarterback.

Another record that Griffin is on pace to break is the rookie record for quarterback rating. Through 12 games, Griffin has a passer rating of 104.4, well above the mark set by Ben Roethlisberger (2004) at 98.1.

Statistics aren't the only thing, though, and Luck right now is the one whose team—if the season were to end today—would be going to the playoffs, while RG3's team is still on the outside looking in.

Who is the front-runner in the Rookie Of The Year Race?
Robert Griffin III Andrew Luck Someone Else Submit Vote vote to see results

Yeah, about the Redskins' playoff picture. With Washington's win over the New York Giants on Monday Night Football in Week 13, the Redskins move to 6-6, tied with the Dallas Cowboys for second place and just one game behind the New York Giants for the NFC East lead. On top of that Washington now holds the tiebreaker over the Giants and Cowboys due to its 3-1 record within the division.

Washington's schedule going forward isn't as favorable as Indianapolis', but every game is winnable. The farthest the Redskins would have to travel is to Cleveland for their Week 15 tilt against a feisty Browns team that won't lay down for them. The Redskins do play their two toughest remaining games at home against the Baltimore Ravens and Dallas Cowboys.

Right now Robert Griffin III is the league's Rookie of the Year, but the argument for Luck due to Indianapolis' success and march toward the playoffs is a valid one. However if Washington winds up as NFC East champions, RG3 would all but clinch the award, and it wouldn't even be a contest."
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Texans lost another DB to injury. Wonderful. I saw a stat this morning that NE hasn't lost at home in December since 2002. Monday might be a long night.
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bane wrote:Texans lost another DB to injury. Wonderful. I saw a stat this morning that NE hasn't lost at home in December since 2002. Monday might be a long night.
At some point (as soon as they wrap up the division) the Texans might want to call off the dogs and get healthy for the playoffs.
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bane wrote:Texans lost another DB to injury. Wonderful. I saw a stat this morning that NE hasn't lost at home in December since 2002. Monday might be a long night.
keep the faith.
before the game on Sunday, Dallas had lost 8 consecutive Sunday night
games.
streaks can be broken
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Machado wrote:
bane wrote:Texans lost another DB to injury. Wonderful. I saw a stat this morning that NE hasn't lost at home in December since 2002. Monday might be a long night.
keep the faith.
before the game on Sunday, Dallas had lost 8 consecutive Sunday night
games.
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True...and before last night, the Skins hadn't won a Monday Night home game in about 15 years...and before Thanksgiving, they hadn't beat the Cowboys on Turkey Day in six tries...so yeah, things can clearly change!

An amusing short video sent to me by a Ravens fan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-vrLgR ... e=youtu.be
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Crazy Levi wrote:
bane wrote:Texans lost another DB to injury. Wonderful. I saw a stat this morning that NE hasn't lost at home in December since 2002. Monday might be a long night.
At some point (as soon as they wrap up the division) the Texans might want to call off the dogs and get healthy for the playoffs.
That would be nice, but the Colts are only 3 back and they still play each other twice. I think Houston has to go full tilt until at least week 15. Houston's schedule is murder down the stretch. A win Monday would make it a whole lot easier, but Im not feeling very confident about it given the defensive injury situation.
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"Andrew Luck might go down as the greatest rookie quarterback in NFL history."

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“Robert Griffin III, he’s got the poise, he’s got the accuracy, [he can fit throws] into a window. I think he’s the most valuable player in the National Football League. He is that good. As a rookie, it’s amazing. … I haven’t seen anything like this.”

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WTF wrote:Anybody catch the Tomlin - Harbaugh handshake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRCyX9G1N2s

:lol: :lol:
Am I really all that wrong, thinking that Uncle Tomlin is the one who looks like an ass?
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AliceManson wrote:
WTF wrote:Anybody catch the Tomlin - Harbaugh handshake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRCyX9G1N2s

:lol: :lol:
Am I really all that wrong, thinking that Uncle Tomlin is the one who looks like an ass?

Tomlin was out of line. Unless Harbaugh slept with his wife prior to this game, was there a legit reason why Tomlin was so rude.
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im glad Levi team has a future MVP

Levi has been a fan for almost 3/4 a season now


didn't care a few weeks ago vs Giants, now he does



Denver QB dosent have cancer yet, that sucks
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LAglamrocker wrote: Denver QB dosent have cancer yet, that sucks
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Any thoughts on this P13? You and LAGlamretard are pretty tight, right?

Personally, I don't understand what Laglamretard has against Manning. He's got the Broncos a fucking title, and in Super Bowl contention. Meanwhile his hero Tebow continues to be nothing more than a closeted joke on the entire NFL.

What gives retard? What's the deal? I thought you were supposed to be a Broncos fan?
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Is Urlacher out for the year a bad thing? Oochie ouch.
He's like the Liberace of bass & pot.

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Looks like Luck already has one MVP vote locked up.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... olis-colts

Andrew Luck gets my MVP vote for reviving Indianapolis Colts


I am one of the 50 voters for The Associated Press' NFL awards. It is a responsibility that I take a lot of pride in -- and one I take very seriously. I start taking notes and compiling names for the various awards in late October. I watch the games. I talk to people. I don't want to be reactionary. I always come to my own conclusions.

With one quarter left in this season, Indianapolis Colts rookie Andrew Luck is the leading candidate for the 2012 NFL MVP Award.

Andrew Luck

In an adversity-filled season, on a team filled with holes, Luck is the reason that the Colts are enjoying this amazing turnaround.

In making my pick for this prestigious award, I always stress the word "valuable." Indianapolis was the worst team in the NFL last year. This year's installment is 8-4. The Colts aren't sneaking into the tournament; they have more wins than the Pittsburgh Steelers, one less than the Baltimore Ravens. It's noteworthy. If the season ended today, Indianapolis would be the No. 5 seed in the AFC.

Luck had another heart-stopping MVP moment this past Sunday in a thrilling comeback win over the Detroit Lions. With no time left, the neophyte flipped his fourth touchdown pass of the game, connecting with Donnie Avery to give the Colts a 35-33 road victory. It was Luck's fifth game-winning drive of the season. That's an incredible stat. It feels more magical watching the games, especially the contests against Detroit, the Green Bay Packers (Indy was down 21-3 at half) and the Tennessee Titans (an overtime win).

The Colts aren't blessed with a ton of talent. Vick Ballard runs the ball. Donald Brown can't stay healthy. The offensive line won't be confused with "The Hogs" who played for Joe Gibbs. Receiver T.Y Hilton is young. So are the tight ends. Luck has played much of the season without his former Stanford teammate and fellow rookie Coby Fleener. Luck maximizes the personnel around him. He provides incredible leadership and poise, mirroring that of a 10-year All-Pro.

Now, Reggie Wayne is a dominant rock at receiver. He's enjoyed a fantastic 2012 season, even changing positions and where he lines up. Wayne immediately established a fine rapport with his rookie quarterback, despite having caught passes from the iconic Peyton Manning over the first 10 seasons of his career. It is a credit to Luck that Wayne hasn't missed a beat.

The Colts have the third-best offense in the NFL. Luck is fourth in passing yards. This is stunning. This is value. This is carrying a team.

The Colts' defense will not be confused with the '85 Bears. Defensive coordinator Greg Manusky has done a nice job implementing head coach Chuck Pagano's 3-4 scheme, fitting players who were drafted by the prior regime to play in the 4-3 -- most notably ends-turned-linebackers Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis. Both have missed time this year due to injury. The linebackers and corners are relatively unremarkable. The Colts have the 21st-ranked defense in the NFL.

I firmly believe that great quarterbacks -- clutch quarterbacks -- add to the overall confidence level of a team, boost accountability and generally raise the level of play. We've seen it with Tom Brady and Peyton Manning over the last decade. We are seeing it with the 2012 Indianapolis Colts because of Andrew Luck. It's even more impressive that Luck is doing this in his first year as a pro.

The skeptic will compare Luck's relatively small number of touchdown passes (17) to the figures from Manning (29) and Brady (25) this season. Heck, Luck's total is even lower than Carson Palmer's (20). I truly don't care about fantasy numbers when I consider the MVP. I'm more interested in the wins, fourth-quarter play and overachievement. The hater will rightly point to Luck's awful performance against Brady and the New England Patriots (in a 59-24 Colts loss). That's valid. But look at how Luck bounced back after that game. Luck also laid an egg earlier in the season against the New York Jets. He then rallied the troops and propelled his team on a winning streak to take control of their destiny down the stretch.

Luck's case reminds me of Miguel Tejada's 2002 season with the Oakland Athletics. The A's were the biggest overachievers. Tejada carried them on offense. Other candidates had inflated (and better) statistics. Tejada rightly won the American League MVP Award.

Did I mention that Luck's coach is away from the team, battling leukemia?

The Colts are most certainly "Chuckstrong," playing hard for Pagano as he fights this disease. Not every team would be this organized sans the head man. Look at the New Orleans Saints. Credit interim head coach Bruce Arians for his guidance. This is a lot for any team, any quarterback to have on their plate. For Luck to handle it all with such aplomb is impressive. He's wise beyond his years. Normally, I would get queasy intertwining real life (an illness) with the toy department of football. But we shouldn't overlook what Luck and the Colts have done. It's part of the case for Andrew Luck.

Then we get into the rest of the candidates.

Manning has been absolutely majestic coming off of multiple major surgeries. After the Denver Broncos' unbelievable comeback win over the San Diego Chargers in mid-October, I predicted Manning and Co. wouldn't lose again. They haven't. Denver has more talent around Manning and a vastly superior defense, led by Von Miller. Manning is currently No. 2 on my MVP list.

Adrian Peterson has been a one-man band, leading the Minnesota Vikings to a 6-6 mark thus far. It would have to be a special circumstance for me to endorse a player from a non-playoff team for league MVP. Peterson is my current choice for Offensive Player of the Year, even though I am philosophically opposed to that award.

Brady continues to wow and mask areas of deficiency for the Patriots. No Gronk? No problem.

I'm not against voting for a defensive player, but there isn't one I'd rank ahead of the aforementioned stars on offense.

Actually, I think the best case against Luck is the majestic nature of two of his fellow neophyte quarterbacks: Robert Griffin III and Russell Wilson. RG3 is the reason why the banged-up and flawed Washington Redskins are 6-6, competing for a playoff spot with his savvy and sizzle. It's a true shame that Wilson is the third-best rookie quarterback. In any other year, he'd be the Rookie of the Year. The Seattle Seahawks are 7-5, in line for the sixth seed in the NFC. Wilson led the Seahawks to an overtime win over the Chicago Bears on Sunday, debunking the myth that Seattle can't win on the road at an ultra-important time. In his last four games, Wilson has a passer rating of 120.4.

Andrew Luck

But that would be overthinking it.

I'm opinionated, but I'm not stubborn. If Luck slips on the proverbial banana peel down the stretch, we can have a different conversation.

But right now, I feel strongly. The functioning word is "valuable."

Andrew Luck is the Most Valuable Player in the NFL. Embrace it
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That's a Hell of alot of words just to say "Hey Everyone else, Quit talking about Robert Griffin III so much, theres another rookie in Indy You know? and He cpmpletes 55% of his passes and has thrown an unreal 16 INT's already, But He'd He'd be at 80% and only have 2 picks if Coby fucking Fleener was healthy and T.Y. Hilton werent so damn Young!! Fuck the stats I'm going with Luck anyway."
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If the Redskins make the playoffs its going to be tough not to name RGIII MVP. The only way I could see him not getting it is if one of the other rookie QB's makes the NFC or AFC championship game. Hell it might take a superbowl berth.
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sin wrote:If the Redskins make the playoffs its going to be tough not to name RGIII MVP. The only way I could see him not getting it is if one of the other rookie QB's makes the NFC or AFC championship game. Hell it might take a superbowl berth.
MVP? I don't see it. That award will go to Manning, Brady or Rodgers. My money's on Manning. Rookie of the Year though, yeah, right now Griffin is definitely on track for it, especially if the Skins can win their division. That's a huge if though. Luck still has a good shot. Indy will make the playoffs, and those things aren't awarded based on real stats alone. Emotion and hype play into it and it doesn't always go to the guy who really earned it.
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sin wrote:If the Redskins make the playoffs its going to be tough not to name RGIII MVP. The only way I could see him not getting it is if one of the other rookie QB's makes the NFC or AFC championship game. Hell it might take a superbowl berth.
Now I'm not sure, but don't they make those calls before the playoffs conclude?
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Crazy Levi wrote:
sin wrote:If the Redskins make the playoffs its going to be tough not to name RGIII MVP. The only way I could see him not getting it is if one of the other rookie QB's makes the NFC or AFC championship game. Hell it might take a superbowl berth.
Now I'm not sure, but don't they make those calls before the playoffs conclude?
Pretty sure you're right. They announce it before the Super Bowl. No idea when the vote happens, but I'd bet it's shortly after the regular season concludes. Plenty of MVP winners have been bounced early in the playoffs.
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bane wrote:MVP? I don't see it. That award will go to Manning, Brady or Rodgers. My money's on Manning. Rookie of the Year though, yeah, right now Griffin is definitely on track for it, especially if the Skins can win their division. That's a huge if though. Luck still has a good shot. Indy will make the playoffs, and those things aren't awarded based on real stats alone. Emotion and hype play into it and it doesn't always go to the guy who really earned it.
Thats whats crazy about this season, 2 guys are taking all the hype and it's even swayed from griffin to Luck to griffin again with luck still getting alot of hype. Meanwhile guys like Russel wilson, Doug Martin and Alfred Morris are pretty much forgotten, not surprising given the sexiness of the QB position that the RB's are left out. I guess it's not that crazy considering they went 1 and 2 but it's fun as opposed to the days of Bledsoe/Mirer, Manning /Leaf where one guy clearly outshined the other, that's not to say RG3 isent outshining Luck, He is(I just had to say it :lol: ) but Luck is holding his own as is Wilson.
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dtmfs wrote:That's a Hell of alot of words just to say "Hey Everyone else, Quit talking about Robert Griffin III so much, theres another rookie in Indy You know? and He cpmpletes 55% of his passes and has thrown an unreal 16 INT's already, But He'd He'd be at 80% and only have 2 picks if Coby fucking Fleener was healthy and T.Y. Hilton werent so damn Young!! Fuck the stats I'm going with Luck anyway."
Nope, it's a lot of words to say that someone who HAS a vote for the MVP will be voting for Andrew Luck. Sorry but you can't dismiss his opinion, since he is someone who will decide this award.
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