Meta-irony alert- RPaul sues fans for rights to RonPaul.com

[Moggio]

According to the reports, he has a common law trademark on his name. So he may have a point.

RonPaul.com has been up since 1999. He waited 14 years for the site to build up a following and now he wants it. He does not have a common law trade mark in his name. There is no product that says "Ron Paul" on it or any enterprise that is called Ron Paul. Being famous is not sufficient to establish a trade mark. More is required. You can put his name on a t-shirt and some dunce will buy it but that's not enough.

There isn't enough information available for you to claim almost ANY of the above. Stop jumping the gun.

BUT there still hasn't been a lengthy statement or interview with him about it. So, I'm going to wait for more info before forming an opinion...

Of course when interviewed he'll toss out the usual word salad and all the PaulBots will parrot it or post a link to it as if he explained himself. See how he handled the racist news letters he published, his failed prediction on the dollar collapse, his claim that the proper way to measure inflation is the price of gold (by that measure we've had 10% deflation this past year), etc etc.

Ron Paul is good at one thing. Filling the air with words. The only person who makes a better word salad is Sarah Palin

Ron Paul handled the newsletters situation in a dignified manner.

The dollar collapse hasn't happened yet. But it will in the next few years.

Where did Ron Paul state that the proper way to measure inflation is the price of Gold?

Btw, hyperinflation and the REAL economic crash (in the form of a Currency/Treasuries Bubble) would've already occurred had it not been for the US Government and co. ARTIFICIALLY manipulating inflation fates at nearly 0%. And it's a similar situation with interest rates, which ARE manipulated at 0%.

You more than conveniently forgot to include the FACT that Ron Paul accurately predicted the Housing Bubble Crisis, the Iraq War, arguably 9/11, etc. Here are the clips ONCE AGAIN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z69fYyoMlVk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzbEWYi_CI8

Also, waiting for more info in order to form an opinion has NOTHING to do with not thinking for yourself.

Just look at the fact that he has waited 14 years to claim RonPaul.com. The way back machine shows the site announced in May, 1999.

ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

There isn't enough information available for you to claim almost ANY of the above. Stop jumping the gun.

More ownage of the famous racist Monggolio.

Wrong. YET AGAIN.

Since I've only recently witnessed the idiocy of this Canadian assclown, can someone with more intellect on here explain what the repeating of "RETURN. OF. THE. RETURN. OF. THE. SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:" is supposed to mean and it's attempt to accomplish other than making him look even more retarded than his previous post with "RETURN. OF. THE. SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD." in it?

And I specifically said someone with intellect, so don't bother attempting to answer, Mongoloidio..

I suppose, since Zappa had a high intellect, Moggio thinks it makes HIM appear smart to use Zappa's words.

He's wrong...

You're all fucking idiots.


Keep tryin' and you'll keep failin'...

[Turner Coates]

You're all fucking idiots.

Said the field mouse to the fox.

[Danzig in the Dark]

Moggio is dancing around Ron Paul's sellout to the UN like he's Michael Jackson.

[ralphwiggumsdealer]

Can you imagine what a fucking drag it would be to go out for dinner with Mongoliyoyo..

"Have you decided what you'd like to order?"

"ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:
I can not make my decision until my dining companions have finished their meals, and told me what they liked, and why they ordered it!"

[Turner Coates]

Can you imagine what a fucking drag it would be to go out for dinner with Mongoliyoyo..

Why yes, I can imagine it.
He would rudely demand a "burnt weenie sandwich, fried spaghetti and coffee".
That's what Zappa often consumed at home.

[Moggio]

Moggio is dancing around Ron Paul's sellout to the UN like he's Michael Jackson.

Currently, there isn't enough compelling evidence available to even claim he went to the UN.

[Moggio]

Can you imagine what a fucking drag it would be to go out for dinner with Mongoliyoyo..

"Have you decided what you'd like to order?"

"ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:
I can not make my decision until my dining companions have finished their meals, and told me what they liked, and why they ordered it!"

Why yes, I can imagine it.
He would rudely demand a "burnt weenie sandwich, fried spaghetti and coffee".
That's what Zappa often consumed at home.

Translation:

We got NOTHING.

[Danzig in the Dark]

Moggio is dancing around Ron Paul's sellout to the UN like he's Michael Jackson.

Currently, there isn't enough compelling evidence available to even claim he went to the UN.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201302 ... ters.shtml

Ron Paul vs. Ronpaul.com complaint PDF

[Turner Coates]

[DEATH ROW JOE]

[Stoner]

Currently, there isn't enough compelling evidence available to even claim he went to the UN.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201302 ... ters.shtml

Ron Paul vs. Ronpaul.com complaint PDF

Now THAT is what an OWN is.

Nice work!

[Moggio]

Moggio is dancing around Ron Paul's sellout to the UN like he's Michael Jackson.

Currently, there isn't enough compelling evidence available to even claim he went to the UN.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201302 ... ters.shtml

Ron Paul vs. Ronpaul.com complaint PDF

Uh...since when is the WIPO the UN? It's associated with the UN but it's NOT the UN.

You see, this is why waiting for more info before forming an opinion is a good thing. And I think Ron Paul has every right to do what he's doing, considering he has a common law and US trademark on his name. I have no problem with it.

Btw, thanks for info. But unfortunately you're STILL an idiot...

Currently, there isn't enough compelling evidence available to even claim he went to the UN.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201302 ... ters.shtml

Ron Paul vs. Ronpaul.com complaint PDF

Now THAT is what an OWN is.

Nice work!

Nope...

[Turner Coates]

"The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is the United Nations agency dedicated to the use of intellectual property (patents, copyright, trademarks, designs, etc.) as a means of stimulating innovation and creativity."

" The Organization became a specialized agency of the United Nations in 1974."

http://www.wipo.int/about-wipo/en/

Moggio will still argue that he's right and everybody else is wrong.
That's just how the guy is.....ignorant and messed up.

I predict he'll attempt to justify himself with a silly semantic loophole, most likely involving the word "agency".

There ya go, Moggio....yer damned if ya do and damned if ya don't.

[Danzig in the Dark]

[Turner Coates]

[Moggio]

"The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is the United Nations agency dedicated to the use of intellectual property (patents, copyright, trademarks, designs, etc.) as a means of stimulating innovation and creativity."

" The Organization became a specialized agency of the United Nations in 1974."

http://www.wipo.int/about-wipo/en/

Moggio will still argue that he's right and everybody else is wrong.
That's just how the guy is.....ignorant and messed up.

I predict he'll attempt to justify himself with a silly semantic loophole, most likely involving the word "agency".

There ya go, Moggio....yer damned if ya do and damned if ya don't.

ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:


Uh...since when is the WIPO the UN? It's associated with the UN but it's NOT the UN.



Holy shit, you guys are pathetic. You're so desperate to win ANYTHING...but of course you NEVER will...

[Danzig in the Dark]

"The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is the United Nations agency dedicated to the use of intellectual property (patents, copyright, trademarks, designs, etc.) as a means of stimulating innovation and creativity."

" The Organization became a specialized agency of the United Nations in 1974."

http://www.wipo.int/about-wipo/en/

Moggio will still argue that he's right and everybody else is wrong.
That's just how the guy is.....ignorant and messed up.

I predict he'll attempt to justify himself with a silly semantic loophole, most likely involving the word "agency".

There ya go, Moggio....yer damned if ya do and damned if ya don't.

ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:


Uh...since when is the WIPO the UN? It's associated with the UN but it's NOT the UN.



Holy shit, you guys are pathetic. You're so desperate to win ANYTHING...but of course you NEVER will...

[Turner Coates]

[KneelandBobDylan]

The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is the United Nations agency dedicated to the use of intellectual property (patents, copyright, trademarks, designs, etc.) as a means of stimulating innovation and creativity.

It doesn't say it's "associated with" it says it's the "agency of" the UN that handles this sort of thing.

Sorry Mong, you're wrong again.

[Turner Coates]

Moggio is the prop jet set Charlie Sheen of Sludge.

Anyone: "Hey man, you just stepped in dogshit!"

Moggio: "Winning!"

[Luminiferous]

Moggio is the prop jet set Charlie Sheen of Sludge.

Anyone: "Hey man, you just stepped in dogshit!"

Moggio: "Winning!"

Actually his idiocy would be "I did not step in dog shit!! Until I smell it, there's nothing to comment on the alleged assumption my being dumb enough to step in dog shit.."

[Stoner]

Hey Moggio, what do you think about Ron Paul threatening to inflict bodily harm on the guy who owns that website?

The face is NOT the human body. It is PART of the human body, but it's NOT the human body.

[Moggio]

The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is the United Nations agency dedicated to the use of intellectual property (patents, copyright, trademarks, designs, etc.) as a means of stimulating innovation and creativity.

It doesn't say it's "associated with" it says it's the "agency of" the UN that handles this sort of thing.

Sorry Mong, you're wrong again.

Moggio is the prop jet set Charlie Sheen of Sludge.

Anyone: "Hey man, you just stepped in dogshit!"

Moggio: "Winning!"

Actually his idiocy would be "I did not step in dog shit!! Until I smell it, there's nothing to comment on the alleged assumption my being dumb enough to step in dog shit.."

Hey Moggio, what do you think about Ron Paul threatening to inflict bodily harm on the guy who owns that website?

The face is NOT the human body. It is PART of the human body, but it's NOT the human body.

When one refers to the UN in speech, statement or conversation, the WIPO doesn't EVER spring to mind, does it?

Does it?

SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:


Uh...since when is the WIPO the UN? It's associated with the UN but it's NOT the UN.


Fucking hell, you're a bunch of idiots...

[Luminiferous]

The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is the United Nations agency dedicated to the use of intellectual property (patents, copyright, trademarks, designs, etc.) as a means of stimulating innovation and creativity.

No where does it read "is the agency ASSOCIATED with the UN."

When one refers to the UN in speech, statement or conversation, the WIPO doesn't EVER spring to mind, does it?

Does not erase the FACT that WIPO a THE UN AGENCY.. Not "associated with" but directly part of the UN.

"The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is one of the 17 specialized agencies of the United Nations. WIPO was created in 1967 "to encourage creative activity, to promote the protection of intellectual property throughout the world."

DERP. OF. ONE. MORE. DERP. FOR. THE. IDIOT.:


Uh...since when is the WIPO the UN? It's associated with the UN but it's NOT the UN.

"The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is one of the 17 specialized agencies of the United Nations. WIPO was created in 1967 "to encourage creative activity, to promote the protection of intellectual property throughout the world."

Notice it says "agencies OF THE UN." Not "agency associated with the UN."

You can continue to try and do the semantics thing, but you're wrong....again.

[Danzig in the Dark]

When one refers to the UN in speech, statement or conversation, the WIPO doesn't EVER spring to mind, does it?

Does it?

SON. OF. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:


Uh...since when is the WIPO the UN? It's associated with the UN but it's NOT the UN.


Fucking hell, you're a bunch of idiots...

WIPO is an agency of the UN just as the FBI is an agency of the US government. If we were a bunch of idiots, we would believe your bullshit. Just admit you're wrong. Have some dignity for once, even if it is just on the internet.

[Turner Coates]

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201302 ... ters.shtml

To have Paul turn around and seek to have WIPO turn over the domain is incredible on so many different levels, once again suggesting that many of the things Ron Paul claims to have believed in go completely out the window at times -- even when it involves turning on the very people who built up his reputation.

Even more bizarre is that not only is he turning on his most ardent supporters and effectively taking them to court, but he's using WIPO, a part of the United Nations, to do so. Ron Paul hates the UN and would like the US to leave the UN. As he once said:

The choice is very clear: we either follow the Constitution or submit to UN global governance. American national sovereignty cannot survive if we allow our domestic laws to be crafted by an international body. This needs to be stated publicly more often. If we continue down the UN path, America as we know it will cease to exist.

And yet, here he is, running to the UN, and trying to forcefully take away a super successful site from his biggest fans supporting him, using the force of that same United Nations? Incredible.

Reading through the background and history, and then digging into the claims Paul's lawyer makes, suggests that Paul has made a huge mistake here. The backstory is that in a recent interview Paul expressed some minor regret that he did not hold the domain:

Alex Jones: Well, God bless you, sir, I hope we can get you back again in a month. What are any other websites that are important, just http://www.CampaignForLiberty.org?

Ron Paul: There’s that, and we’ll be listing some new things there because we’re making some other WebPages. I’m going to have a home page. Unfortunately, I didn’t have RonPaul.com, so I’m going to have to have RonPaulsHomepage.com. That will be coming up, but it’s not ready yet.



http://www.business2community.com/onlin ... ma-0408370

Now that Paul wants control of RonPaul.com, he’s seeking help from the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), a U.N. agency, where he filed his UDRP complaint, according to Mashable. It is interesting that the former Texas Rep., who has been openly anti-U.N. in the past, calling it ” rife with corruption and backroom deals” and anti-American in a 2003 letter, now is looking to the organization to help him reclaim a domain name. WIPO is the most widely known agency for resolving UDRP complaints, but Paul alternatively could have filed with the National Arbitration Forum, which has a higher proportion of American panelists.



http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=42802

WIPO, an agency of the United Nations, today rejected Ron Paul's UDRP complaint over RonPaul.com due to a formality. Ron Paul's lawyers have been given the option of refiling or amending their complaint until February 19 or to let the matter drop and resume private negotiations.

This development presents a perfect opportunity to resolve the dispute privately. The grassroots supporters in charge of RonPaul.com have always been open to private negotiations and continue to do so.

If you support a negotiated solution over ownership of RonPaul.com that would benefit the entire liberty movement please express your support on Ron Paul's Facebook page, on Twitter, and contact Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty at http://www.campaignforliberty.org/contact-us/

"The Internet will provide the alternative to the government/media complex that controls the news and most political propaganda. This is why it’s essential that the Internet remains free of government regulation." -- Ron Paul's Farewell Speech to Congress, Nov. 14, 2012

Ron Paul needs to take this as an omen and drop this case immediately.
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YER OUT!!!!

[Turner Coates]

[Turner Coates]

[Turner Coates]

[Moggio]

No where does it read "is the agency ASSOCIATED with the UN."

Does not erase the FACT that WIPO a THE UN AGENCY.. Not "associated with" but directly part of the UN.

Notice it says "agencies OF THE UN." Not "agency associated with the UN."

You can continue to try and do the semantics thing, but you're wrong....again.

WIPO is an agency of the UN just as the FBI is an agency of the US government. If we were a bunch of idiots, we would believe your bullshit. Just admit you're wrong. Have some dignity for once, even if it is just on the internet.

NOWHERE in ANYONE'S previous posts before Danzig In The Dark posted the link to the details of RP's complaint, did ANYONE here say, mention or even refer to the WIPO - which again, is NOT the UN itself but is a UN agency and is associated with the UN...and is certainly not something almost ANYONE refers to when discussing the UN.

According to your logic, I guess you dipshits believe that since Rand is a Paul that he has the same platform as his father, Ron?!

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201302 ... ters.shtml

To have Paul turn around and seek to have WIPO turn over the domain is incredible on so many different levels, once again suggesting that many of the things Ron Paul claims to have believed in go completely out the window at times -- even when it involves turning on the very people who built up his reputation.

Even more bizarre is that not only is he turning on his most ardent supporters and effectively taking them to court, but he's using WIPO, a part of the United Nations, to do so. Ron Paul hates the UN and would like the US to leave the UN. As he once said:

The choice is very clear: we either follow the Constitution or submit to UN global governance. American national sovereignty cannot survive if we allow our domestic laws to be crafted by an international body. This needs to be stated publicly more often. If we continue down the UN path, America as we know it will cease to exist.

And yet, here he is, running to the UN, and trying to forcefully take away a super successful site from his biggest fans supporting him, using the force of that same United Nations? Incredible.

Reading through the background and history, and then digging into the claims Paul's lawyer makes, suggests that Paul has made a huge mistake here. The backstory is that in a recent interview Paul expressed some minor regret that he did not hold the domain:

Alex Jones: Well, God bless you, sir, I hope we can get you back again in a month. What are any other websites that are important, just http://www.CampaignForLiberty.org?

Ron Paul: There’s that, and we’ll be listing some new things there because we’re making some other WebPages. I’m going to have a home page. Unfortunately, I didn’t have RonPaul.com, so I’m going to have to have RonPaulsHomepage.com. That will be coming up, but it’s not ready yet.

http://www.business2community.com/onlin ... ma-0408370

Now that Paul wants control of RonPaul.com, he’s seeking help from the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), a U.N. agency, where he filed his UDRP complaint, according to Mashable. It is interesting that the former Texas Rep., who has been openly anti-U.N. in the past, calling it ” rife with corruption and backroom deals” and anti-American in a 2003 letter, now is looking to the organization to help him reclaim a domain name. WIPO is the most widely known agency for resolving UDRP complaints, but Paul alternatively could have filed with the National Arbitration Forum, which has a higher proportion of American panelists.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=42802

WIPO, an agency of the United Nations, today rejected Ron Paul's UDRP complaint over RonPaul.com due to a formality. Ron Paul's lawyers have been given the option of refiling or amending their complaint until February 19 or to let the matter drop and resume private negotiations.

This development presents a perfect opportunity to resolve the dispute privately. The grassroots supporters in charge of RonPaul.com have always been open to private negotiations and continue to do so.

If you support a negotiated solution over ownership of RonPaul.com that would benefit the entire liberty movement please express your support on Ron Paul's Facebook page, on Twitter, and contact Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty at http://www.campaignforliberty.org/contact-us/

"The Internet will provide the alternative to the government/media complex that controls the news and most political propaganda. This is why it’s essential that the Internet remains free of government regulation." -- Ron Paul's Farewell Speech to Congress, Nov. 14, 2012

Ron Paul needs to take this as an omen and drop this case immediately.
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YER OUT!!!!

Wrong....yet AGAIN.

What you clearly don't understand is that Ron Paul went to the WIPO because he HAD to in order to file the complaint, since it's the only significant form of recourse for a matter as unique as this...


Keep tryin' and you'll keep failin'...