The NFL Thread

[Machado]

NFL is reviewing the hit 49ers Ahmad Brooks put on Brees Sunday.
WTF!!!
What is there to review? Instant replay should have reviewed the hit on the field
and ultimately picked up the flag.
That hit was totally clean
Yes it was a vicious hit, but the hit was not a blow to the head.
Instant replay for hits to the head on any player could save the league and the ref's
a lot of criticism directed their way.
Unreal!

Fucking 2013 and instant replay is still not used properly.

[Crazy Levi]

NFL is reviewing the hit 49ers Ahmad Brooks put on Brees Sunday.
WTF!!!
What is there to review? Instant replay should have reviewed the hit on the field
and ultimately picked up the flag.
That hit was totally clean
Yes it was a vicious hit, but the hit was not a blow to the head.
Instant replay for hits to the head on any player could save the league and the ref's
a lot of criticism directed their way.
Unreal!

Fucking 2013 and instant replay is still not used properly.

Do you think they should extend instant replay to ALL penalties? Pass interference? Offsides and false starts?

All have the potential to alter the result of the game.

[Machado]

NFL is reviewing the hit 49ers Ahmad Brooks put on Brees Sunday.
WTF!!!
What is there to review? Instant replay should have reviewed the hit on the field
and ultimately picked up the flag.
That hit was totally clean
Yes it was a vicious hit, but the hit was not a blow to the head.
Instant replay for hits to the head on any player could save the league and the ref's
a lot of criticism directed their way.
Unreal!

Fucking 2013 and instant replay is still not used properly.

Do you think they should extend instant replay to ALL penalties? Pass interference? Offsides and false starts?

All have the potential to alter the result of the game.

Sure
Why not
The goal should be to get the call right, not matter how often the game is paused so a dedicated replay official reviews the tape.
The league is living in the dark ages and refuses to embrace technology.
The league is a billion dollar corp yet they refuse to hire/pay an official to review all plays of a single game.

[Machado]

The relationship between Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III and head coach Mike Shanahan already was being dissected and discussed in depth before Sunday's loss. What Griffin said after falling to the Philadelphia Eagles is sure to intensify the discussion.

Griffin, per the Washington Post's Mike Jones, had a telling statement about the Redskins' gameplan in their 24-16 loss that might have knocked them out of playoff contention.

“They did a good job of scheming us up,” Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”

Machado has been pushing this RGII vs Shanahan shit since training camp, for fucking months! I think I finally believe him. And it's going to get worse.

I've done some poking around....I've found some inside reports that show RGIII voted for Obama and Shanahan hates Obama then to make matters worse Shanahan believes there's Aliens in area 51 and RGIII don't believe in them. This has created a time bomb environment in the Skins locker room.
According to Machado, RGIII and Shanahan have never liked each other and have been fighting since training camp. Now we know it's the truth.

It's about Obama and Aliens......You call it Machado.

More drama from the Redskins. This time RG 3's own teammate is criticizing him:
On Tuesday, veteran Redskins wide receiver Santana Moss went on 106.7 The Fan in D.C., and said that when things go wrong, players need to take more personal responsibility -- specifically Washington's franchise quarterback.

"If we're going to win games, we need to win games with our guy saying, 'At the end of the day, I didn't make a play,' regardless of if it wasn't him," Moss said on the "LaVar and Dukes" show. "And that's how I feel. Because that's what we're out there to do.

"As a leader, you understand that if you're involved in the situation, whether you're the receiver, the quarterback, the guys making the tackle, whoever -- regardless of the outcome, good or bad, you have to at some point, stand up and say me or I," Moss said.

Moss drove his point home even further.

"I don't need to be going back and forth in the media about who didn't do this and who didn't do what," Moss said. "At the end of the day, I was seen with the ball in my hand last, as a quarterback I'm saying, and if it didn't get done then I'm going to let you know it was me. Whether it was me or not. It was me. And I'm going to get better. And we're going to get better together."

[LAglamrocker]

big game this week, Peytons knee will shatter. Sundevil era starts soon

[exitflagger]

NFL is reviewing the hit 49ers Ahmad Brooks put on Brees Sunday.
WTF!!!

That hit was totally clean
Yes it was a vicious hit

You are seriously the dumbest motherfucker alive. The NFL fined him 15 grand for a clothesline tackle. Do you know what a clothesline tackle is, you fucking dunce? Those have been illegal as fuck since before the whole helmet-to-helmet rule.

And you were the one crying the loudest about bountygate.

"Totally clean"… "Yes it was a vicious hit…"

What a fucking dolt.

[UtahRatt]

NFL is reviewing the hit 49ers Ahmad Brooks put on Brees Sunday.
WTF!!!
What is there to review? Instant replay should have reviewed the hit on the field
and ultimately picked up the flag.
That hit was totally clean
Yes it was a vicious hit, but the hit was not a blow to the head.
Instant replay for hits to the head on any player could save the league and the ref's
a lot of criticism directed their way.
Unreal!

Fucking 2013 and instant replay is still not used properly.

49ers LB Ahmad Brooks fined $15,750 for the lamest fucking foul. Digged, Ray Lewis mostly Steve Young's comments.

Great response
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10006573

PUSSIFIED! NFL National Flag League.

[exitflagger]

Bullshit. Flagrant clothesline tackles have resulted in fines for the offending tackler since I was a fucking kid. The attention being given to spearing type violations in recent years has made some doofuses forget that clotheslining is most definitely an illegal move and more importantly a highly dangerous and cowardly move. Always has been. This is nothing new.

[UtahRatt]

NFL is reviewing the hit 49ers Ahmad Brooks put on Brees Sunday.
WTF!!!

That hit was totally clean
Yes it was a vicious hit

You are seriously the dumbest motherfucker alive. The NFL fined him 15 grand for a clothesline tackle. Do you know what a clothesline tackle is, you fucking dunce? Those have been illegal as fuck since before the whole helmet-to-helmet rule.

And you were the one crying the loudest about bountygate.

"Totally clean"… "Yes it was a vicious hit…"

What a fucking dolt.

He didn't neck tie Brees, Brooks armed the shoulder pad. the momentum pulled it up over the neck and helmet but Brooks flat out hit his shoulder pad.

Machado is still a dolt regardless.

[UtahRatt]

Bullshit. Flagrant clothesline tackles have resulted in fines for the offending tackler since I was a fucking kid. The attention being given to spearing type violations in recent years has made some doofuses forget that clotheslining is most definitely an illegal move and more importantly a highly dangerous and cowardly move. Always has been. This is nothing new.

He didn't clothesline him whatsoever.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10006573

*Edit

The second clip wont link, they're in order so watch the second video.....I dare anyone to watch that second clip and tell me that flag was the right call.

After Ray's rant Steve Young and Dilfer both hit it perfectly.

[exitflagger]

$15,750 says otherwise.

If you watch the hit in real time (not slow-mo to cushion it) and don't think it was AT THE VERY LEAST worthy of a penalty, you're fucking insane. I don't see how anybody can begin to argue the point when you even have a goddamn fine on top of it.

Fuck, let them play with clubs and knives. Entertainment!

[exitflagger]

He didn't clothesline him whatsoever.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10006573

*Edit

The second clip wont link, they're in order so watch the second video.....I dare anyone to watch that second clip and tell me that flag was the right call.

Dude, you linked a video where they are not even questioning the CALL… just the fine.

Let's not snap a quarterback's head off his shoulders. Come on. The game is rough, okay, but there's no need for that kind of shit.

I mean I can't fucking stand Tom Brady but I certainly wouldn't want to see him get his neck broken in a game.

[UtahRatt]

$15,750 says otherwise.

If you watch the hit in real time (not slow-mo to cushion it) and don't think it was AT THE VERY LEAST worthy of a penalty, you're fucking insane. I don't see how anybody can begin to argue the point when you even have a goddamn fine on top of it.

Fuck, let them play with clubs and knives. Entertainment!

No way in hell was it a bad hit, not one doubt watching it live "TV" or in slow mo or replayed from a dozen angles.....From minute one it was a great legal hit.

To back that up......When Stuart Scott, Ray Lewis, Steve Young and Trent Dilfer "QB'S"! Say it was a good hit, an embarrassment flag and all was taken by surprised. That's good enough for me

"Trent Dilfer - I don't think there's a player in this league who thinks that was a penalty that should have been called."

exitflagger, you've probably played and watched all your life like a lot on here. I've put in 30+ of organized from pop, college, flag, multi divisional, tri states and every different rule book thinkable but fuck the two of us..........Let's see how many NFL players say it's an illegal hit. The only one who will agree publicly plays for the Saint's.

[UtahRatt]

Dude, you linked a video where they are not even questioning the CALL… just the fine.

Let's not snap a quarterback's head off his shoulders. Come on. The game is rough, okay, but there's no need for that kind of shit.

I mean I can't fucking stand Tom Brady but I certainly wouldn't want to see him get his neck broken in a game.

Not one of them said it was a clothesline yet everyone of them said Brooks hit his shoulder pad.

[UtahRatt]

"NFL VP of Officiating Dean Blandino, speaking on NFL Network Tuesday night, said that Brees was "defenseless" and therefore the call was correct."

For some reason I didn't notice the NFL VP saying anything about clothesline?
Oh it's here, where he admits the contact was below the neck.

“The quarterback, in the act of passing, or in the passing posture, is defenseless,” Blandino said. “You can't make forcible contact to the head or the neck area. Even if the contact starts below the neck and rises up, if there's force to that contact, it's a foul."

[UtahRatt]

Tedy Bruschi, a former New England Patriots linebacker and current ESPN analyst, also claimed he would pay a portion of the fine, adding, “Keep hitting him hard,” during a televised segment on the network.

Harbaugh said they give a player a minus grade when he commits a penalty. "We did not give (Ahmad) a minus on that play."

[UtahRatt]

Dude, you linked a video where they are not even questioning the CALL… just the fine.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10006573

The second clip wont link, they're in order so watch the second video.....I dare anyone to watch that second clip and tell me that flag was the right call.

This is the link to Ray's rant with Young and company.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/99954 ... -brees-hit

[UtahRatt]

When all is said and done.

I'm glad the Saint's won.....Even if it was from a pussy flag that shouldn't have been tossed! I want the Saint's to win the Super Bowl. Just hope it's not in that pussified fashion.

[UtahRatt]

NFL officials had a good weekend. Saint's win on a bad call.

As for the Rob Gronkowski non call.

Both Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski’s mothers thought Luke Kuechly interfered with Gronkowski in the end zone Monday night. Unfortunately for New England, Mrs. Brady and Mrs. Gronkowski are not NFL officials.

Fuck the rule. It was an uncatchable ball.
Rob wasn't making any attempt to attack the ball, go through the blocker or even act like he was being mugged. If Rob would have attempted or even soccer dived I'd tossed a flag. Regardless of being mugged, no way Rob goes through two or was it three more defenders and catches that ball. Don't give a fuck what the rule say's, Rob's not making the catch so I agreed with the no call.

As for all this shit about the rules......They're one big gray area with most of them judgment calls at best.


The rules aren't there to make the game safer, the league is about money and they're doing all they can to make/save money with disregard for the game "product". If it's safer, someone tell me how many back up QB's, RB's and WR's are starting. Not just this season, this fucking week. Or should I said. Weak.

How many RB's has Tampa lost? Oakland lost the starting QB, RB, FB and CB in the first half of the Skins game. Maybe the NFL should make it a FLAG FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
Then again, anyone remember Robert Edwards blowing his knee playing Flag during ProBowl weekend? It's a physical sport, not lawn darts.

[exitflagger]

Harbaugh said they give a player a minus grade when he commits a penalty. "We did not give (Ahmad) a minus on that play."

Brees was the one who got hit. But his assessment of it as being a clothesline hit is not valid enough because it may be a self-serving opinion, right? Regardless of being on the mouth-bloodied receiving end of it?

Kinda makes the above quote ten times more worthless. Jim Harbaugh would cry foul if he got shorted a penny at the drive-thru. Of all people, nobody should give his testimony a second thought.

[UtahRatt]

Jim Harbaugh would cry foul if he got shorted a penny at the drive-thru. Of all people, nobody should give his testimony a second thought.

Probably why I quoted and used Stuart Scott, Ray Lewis, Steve Young, Tony Richardson, Tedy Bruschi, the NFL VP of Officiating including a quote from Trent Dilfer saying:

"I don't think there's a player in this league who thinks that was a penalty that should have been called."

As for bleeding from the mouth? Ya that was sure a gusher.
Hello...Pads and jersey's are made to be slick and fit tight for a reason. Maybe if they made jersey's and gloves from Velcro hands and arms wouldn't slide off pads while you're trying to tackle someone at full speed. Either that or next year the NFL can implement a no SACK rule.

I didn't know you're a Saint's fan.

[Facedown]

big game this week, Peytons knee will shatter. Sundevil era starts soon

Don't worry, I'm sure they can get Tebow back for the right package of players/picks/cash.

[WTF]

I don't think there's any way that should be a penalty on Brooks. If it happened to Brady I'd be saying the same thing. It's similar to when a defensive player begins his tackle and the offensive player lowers his head, creating contact that results in a defensive penalty.

[Machado]

NFL is reviewing the hit 49ers Ahmad Brooks put on Brees Sunday.
WTF!!!

That hit was totally clean
Yes it was a vicious hit

You are seriously the dumbest motherfucker alive. The NFL fined him 15 grand for a clothesline tackle. Do you know what a clothesline tackle is, you fucking dunce? Those have been illegal as fuck since before the whole helmet-to-helmet rule.

And you were the one crying the loudest about bountygate.

"Totally clean"… "Yes it was a vicious hit…"

What a fucking dolt.

Is this the part where you get on your soapbox and attempt to convince
anybody that will listen that you are correct and everybody else is wrong?
FUCKING MORON!

Are you trying to tell us a vicious hit cannot be a clean hit?
Play the game once before you pretend to know all.

[UtahRatt]

I don't think there's any way that should be a penalty on Brooks. If it happened to Brady I'd be saying the same thing. It's similar to when a defensive player begins his tackle and the offensive player lowers his head, creating contact that results in a defensive penalty.

What gets me the most is the quote from Dean Blandino the NFL VP of Officiating.

"NFL VP of Officiating Dean Blandino, speaking on NFL Network Tuesday night, said that Brees was "defenseless" and therefore the call was correct."

Brees was "defenseless" so the call was correct? So now a quarterback with the ball is defenseless?
What's next, once the QB enters the Pocket he's Defenseless? Fucking lame cotton candy bullshit.

“The quarterback, in the act of passing, or in the passing posture, is defenseless,” Blandino said. “You can't make forcible contact to the head or the neck area. Even if the contact starts below the neck and rises up, if there's force to that contact, it's a foul."

So now you can tackle the "defenseless" QB at the waist and when said QB ducks and collapses through your arms forcing any contact to the neck or helmet........It's a foul and fine?

Fuck off, just put the RED jersey's on QB's and make it no contact or two hand touch. Total bullshit any way you slice it.

Passing posture?

That's going to be replayed and picked apart like fucking tuck rule..."Well the QB's running and kinda looks like he's gonna pass the ball as he slid from of the LB's grasp." "If you stop the reply here you can just see the LB's glove graze the QB's face mask"

FOUL!

[exitflagger]

Play the game once before you pretend to know all.

Pretty confident in that assumption, huh? I wouldn't be if I were you.

Then again, if I were you I'd probably break all my fingers and sew my mouth shut.

[Machado]

Play the game once before you pretend to know all.

Pretty confident in that assumption, huh? I wouldn't be if I were you.

Then again, if I were you I'd probably break all my fingers and sew my mouth shut.

You're the epitome of a broken record.

You believe the hit was illegal and deserved a fine.

Some of us believe otherwise.

What's next?
Are you going to stomp your feet, bitch & moan until someone agrees with
your opinion?
No wait, instead you are going to resort to sophomoric insults. Your forte!

[Bludegeon]

One more..



Legal hit..

NFL is getting more and more pussified by the week.

[UtahRatt]

One more..



Legal hit..

NFL is getting more and more pussified by the week.

Neversurrender is too stupid to understand but hit's like that are the reason why I'm kind of lost with today's game.

It was hard to watch when I quit playing but what really turned the knife was how wimpy the rules got each year...About the time Roy Williams changed the book with one horse collar was when I stopped. I'd watch my team but for the better part of the last 4 years I haven't paid much attention....It's the reason I had no fucking clue who Ponder was or AD is a nick name. Like I cared.
So this year I got back into the game, lots of new names and faces but more then that, a lot more stupid rules to catch up on.

Couple years ago I watched a VHS tape from 1992, Monday Night game Denver vs Raiders and every other play I kept saying....That would be a flag today. Imagine how many flags would litter the field from 1982.

Now we have shit like this fucking hit on Brees, every time a WR misses a ball he gets up looking for a flag....Half the time then come out. I've Been bitching about the rules all year but this takes the cake. It's about time to watch a bit more hockey, Rugby and the Xgames.

NFL = Nu Football League

[exitflagger]

You believe the hit was illegal and deserved a fine.

You know jack about shit. I could give a fuck about the fine. But it was imposed, like it or not…

Um… somewhat like another action the NFL took a couple of years ago. Remember that, Muchacho? You fucking burrito brain? The action that was taken against the Saints which at it's core was based in cheap violence in the league? You remember how you more or less wanted to suck Goodell's cock over that one?

Not only a dumbass but a fucking hypocrite as well! You know damn well that if the same hit was made by a Saints player to Kaepernick on the other side of the ball you'd have flooded this board with a combination of tears and menstrual discharge. If you deny it, you're a fucking liar. Straight up.

Some of us believe otherwise.

Ah, there's the old Captain Muchacho Obvious we all know and tolerate.

Go fuck yourself. Idiot.