Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[Machado]

Yankees Executives respond to Cano's comment regarding lack of respect:

“I feel bad for him,” Levine said after a press conference introducing new outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury. “Because I think he was disappointed he’s not a Yankee. But I respect him. He’s free to say whatever he wants to say.”

“I understand his disappointment," Levine said. "This is the greatest sports franchise and organization in the world. But he made the decision, I believe – which you cannot blame him for, it’s a lot, a lot of money – to go to Seattle for the money. That’s OK.”

Levine reiterated the organization’s policy against 10-year contracts for players past 30. Cano turned 31 in October.

“If Mike Trout was here, I would recommend a 10-year contract,” Levine said. “But for people over 30, I don’t believe it makes sense. I don’t think Hal thinks it makes sense. We were very clear about that.

[killeverything]

[quote="Machado"][b]Yankees Executives respond to Cano's comment regarding lack of respect:[/b]

“I feel bad for him,” Levine said after a press conference introducing new outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury. “Because I think he was disappointed he’s not a Yankee. But I respect him. He’s free to say whatever he wants to say.”

“I understand his disappointment," Levine said. "This is the greatest sports franchise and organization in the world. But he made the decision, I believe – which you cannot blame him for, it’s a lot, a lot of money – to go to Seattle for the money. That’s OK.”

Levine reiterated the organization’s policy against 10-year contracts for players past 30. Cano turned 31 in October.

“If Mike Trout was here, I would recommend a 10-year contract,” Levine said. “But for people over 30, I don’t believe it makes sense. I don’t think Hal thinks it makes sense. We were very clear about that.[/quote]

Greatest sports organization in the world? Get the fuck out of here. There's this team, club, organization or whatever called the Manchester United Futbol Club. You might have heard of them before they're the most popular sports team in the world. They're the most successful sports franchise in the world and they're the richest sports franchise in the world playing the most popular sport in the world.

God the arrogance of the MFY is mindboggling to me. Have fun missing the playoffs again with that pitching staff....or lack there of.

Long live Arod and his primadonna fans.

[Machado]

Yankees Executives respond to Cano's comment regarding lack of respect:

“I feel bad for him,” Levine said after a press conference introducing new outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury. “Because I think he was disappointed he’s not a Yankee. But I respect him. He’s free to say whatever he wants to say.”

“I understand his disappointment," Levine said. "This is the greatest sports franchise and organization in the world. But he made the decision, I believe – which you cannot blame him for, it’s a lot, a lot of money – to go to Seattle for the money. That’s OK.”

Levine reiterated the organization’s policy against 10-year contracts for players past 30. Cano turned 31 in October.

“If Mike Trout was here, I would recommend a 10-year contract,” Levine said. “But for people over 30, I don’t believe it makes sense. I don’t think Hal thinks it makes sense. We were very clear about that.

Greatest sports organization in the world? Get the fuck out of here. There's this team, club, organization or whatever called the Manchester United Futbol Club. You might have heard of them before they're the most popular sports team in the world. They're the most successful sports franchise in the world and they're the richest sports franchise in the world playing the most popular sport in the world.

God the arrogance of the MFY is mindboggling to me. Have fun missing the playoffs again with that pitching staff....or lack there of.

Long live Arod and his primadonna fans.

Kill
Why do I want to drill you with a fastball to the ribs right about now?
Good thing the 2014 season does not begin tomorrow?
Teams have more than enough time to improve the ballclub.

[killeverything]

Oh yeah that's right, I forgot about all the good pitchers out there available.

[killeverything]

KC signs Infante 4/30m.

Apparently MLB is investigating the MFY for team president Levine's comment about Mike Trout ( he said he'd sign him to a 10 year deal. Who wouldn't? ). They're investigating about tampering. Umm Trout is quite aways from free agency. 5 years? I just think it's funny how butthurt NY is about Cano. It's Jacoby's press conference, and they bring up Cano.

[killeverything]

The Dodgers and Juan Uribe agree to 2 year deal for 15m.

There's rumblings that LA is interested in David Price. Price would be a huge addition nothing less than Puig + prospect gets it done which leads to this line of thinking. Would you trade Puig for Price? Puig's a fan favorite and his jackass antics put a lot of butts in the seats, but that's David Price. A rotation of Kershaw, Greinke, Price, Ryu should be illegal.

I like Price over Greinke personally but it's a very lefty rotation with Greinke being the only righty.

It seems Jack Zwhatthefuckever still has a hard on Nelson Cruz. Fuck. That dude is 33, sucks at fielding ( which is what destroyed Seattle last season ) and he isn't that good to begin with, but he did have a couple of homers in the postseason which included RBIs. Unfortunately homeruns and RBIs are the most amazing thing in the world to Jack Z. So expect to see him with the M's for probably 4/60.

If that isn't enough to get Jack Zstupidlastname shot....errr I mean fired, I don't know what is.

[killeverything]

Cards sign 2B Mark Ellis on a one year deal after LAD rejected his $5.75m club option. A + defense with a decent bat ( 270/.323/.351 ), especially against LHP. This signing makes perfect sense for St. Louis to transition to Wong.

[killeverything]

MLB and NPB ( fucking acronyms ) agree to a 20m max posting fee. That is awesome, basically for 20 million any team can negotiate with said player.

It's not known yet if Tanaka is going to be posted ( he did request it though ). I like this because he is a lot of teams top priority and they can all talk with him. So not just one can drop the most money, it would be funny as hell to see NY "Cano ed" again.

*edit*

Japan agrees to post Tanaka after NPB & MLB agree to posting system.

This should be good. MFY, LAD, Arizona and possibly Seattle. 3 of just those teams have said "he's their priority" and 4 have a ton of money.

*edit* Again. Fuck.

Kazuto Yamazaki ( no, that's not a motorcycle ) said Rakuten will decide to post Tanaka within' 48 hours.

[killeverything]

The MFY and Brian Roberts agree to a 1/2m deal. Roberts is assumed to platoon with Kelly at 2B. Roberts is old, has a history of PEDs and spends significant time on the DL. It's almost like the mothership is calling him home.

Since it appears Tanaka is going to be posted and it WILL count against the luxury tax NY is seriously taking this "don't go above the luxury tax" shit seriously.

Arod was saying at David Ortiz's Celebrity Golf Tournament he expects a ruling soon on his upcoming status. He's pretty confident about his legal team's performance so it looks like the MFY are going to be paying him regardless.

[Machado]

The MFY and Brian Roberts agree to a 1/2m deal. Roberts is assumed to platoon with Kelly at 2B. Roberts is old, has a history of PEDs and spends significant time on the DL. It's almost like the mothership is calling him home.

The Roberts signing is very low risk. Yankees infield will be pieced together. The team is giving multiple guys a chance at sticking with the team as a platooon player at 2nd or 3rd and maybe even SS.
No chance Roberts is an everyday player at 36. The concussions concern me more than the past PED use. Plus, Roberts admitted to injecting himself only once


Arod was saying at David Ortiz's Celebrity Golf Tournament he expects a ruling soon on his upcoming status. He's pretty confident about his legal team's performance so it looks like the MFY are going to be paying him regardless.

[killeverything]

Baltimore and Grant Balfour agree to a 2/14 deal.

That leaves the last "elite" closer on the market as Fernando Rodney. He's seeking a 3-4 year deal at 20 per I believe. If there is anyone I expect to regress considerably it's him. Closers and bullpens are always volatile, but c'mon I just don't trust that guy.

[tin00can]

Angels get Raul Ibanez for one year, 2.75 million (plus 2.5 million in incentives). Not a bad deal, but eh. I'm just worried about this:

[Machado]

Choo turns down 7 yr/$140M offer from Yankees


Good. Sounds like this guy does not have the personality to play in a large market like NYC

Just means more money to spend on Tanaka.

[killeverything]

Angels get Raul Ibanez for one year, 2.75 million (plus 2.5 million in incentives). Not a bad deal, but eh. I'm just worried about this:

I get the joke. If Ibanez is used correctly ( meaning DH period ) he's a helluva bat to come into the lineup. Unfortunately for Anaheim their DH position might be occupied by Pujols...

Choo turns down 7 yr/$140M offer from Yankees


Good. Sounds like this guy does not have the personality to play in a large market like NYC

Just means more money to spend on Tanaka.

I can't wait for the Tanaka posting to take place. The MFY are adamant about staying under the luxury tax. After the 20m fee for Tanaka every team that also posts can negotiate with him.

Of those teams more than one have said he's their #1 priority. If NY truly stays under the luxury tax there's a strong possibility they don't get their man. Arizona is poised to compete with a strong farm and money to spend. Seattle is poised to compete with a strong farm, Tanaka's teamate for 5 years and homie ( Iwakuma ) on the roster and money to spend.

If I was a bettin' man ( I kind of am ) I would say they're paying Arod. Now with that information in mind I would say it looks so-so that the Yankees get their man. Especially if the rumors are true and Seattle goes all in on Tanaka too.

[Machado]

Choo turns down 7 yr/$140M offer from Yankees


Good. Sounds like this guy does not have the personality to play in a large market like NYC

Just means more money to spend on Tanaka.

I can't wait for the Tanaka posting to take place. The MFY are adamant about staying under the luxury tax. After the 20m fee for Tanaka every team that also posts can negotiate with him.

Of those teams more than one have said he's their #1 priority. If NY truly stays under the luxury tax there's a strong possibility they don't get their man. Arizona is poised to compete with a strong farm and money to spend. Seattle is poised to compete with a strong farm, Tanaka's teamate for 5 years and homie ( Iwakuma ) on the roster and money to spend.

If I was a bettin' man ( I kind of am ) I would say they're paying Arod. Now with that information in mind I would say it looks so-so that the Yankees get their man. Especially if the rumors are true and Seattle goes all in on Tanaka too.

IMO, Yankees will change their plans in order to get Tanaka.
Since when do the Yankees use money as an excuse not to acquire a player.
So far this off-season the Yankees have been very aggressive in the free agent market.
Tanaka would be a great addition for a HUGE need on that ballclub.

[killeverything]

Of course they are. No team save for the Dodgers can compete 100% with them when they try to buy rings. What I think is rad this time, with the cultural differences Seattle has a huge advantage in the negotiations. Japanese owners, large asian population, former team mate/friend on the roster, Japanese player friendly enviroment, etc.

As for the "Japanese player friendly" comment, I've read that players from the Pacific like coming to Seattle since the ownership/FO, city make the transition easier. I don't know how much that factor actually plays in, but it makes sense and if it is true. Then the M's have a huge advantage against the trustafarians' wallets. It would be hysterical to see NY not get their guy.

[killeverything]

And now it looks like their not posting him.



Japanese Pitcher Tanaka Won’t Be Let Go, Reports Say

By KEN BELSON

December 18, 2013

Less than two days after the highly sought Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka said he wanted to pitch in Major League Baseball next season, there was still no definitive word from his team, the Rakuten Golden Eagles, whether it would let him leave.But on Thursday morning, several Japanese newspapers reported that the Eagles — who control the rights to Tanaka until the end of 2015 — would not permit major league teams to bid for him.Instead, the Eagles will offer to double or even triple his annual salary of about $4 million, which could make him the highest-paid Japanese pitcher in history.By keeping Tanaka for at least another year, the Eagles would forgo a $20 million compensatory posting fee from the major league team that ultimately signed him. But they would enhance their chances at repeating as champions in Japan, and they would avoid millions of dollars in lost ticket, food and merchandise sales.One newspaper, Sports Hochi, reported that team officials planned to meet with Tanaka on Friday, not to negotiate his contract, but to tell him they would not permit him to depart to play in North America. KEN BELSON


http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/r ... offer.html

Makes sense really. They would only get 20 million and the revenues he brings in/will bring in I'm sure top the posting fee. Rakuten just made guys like Garza, Jiminez and Santana very rich men.

Yay shitty free agent pitchers.

[tin00can]

This news makes Garza very, very happy. And it makes me sad because the Angels want him (despite his bad performance with the Rangers) and really need to sign another pitcher. Garza's salary probably just shot over $100 million.

It probably helps Ervin Santana, too.

[Machado]

This news makes Garza very, very happy. And it makes me sad because the Angels want him (despite his bad performance with the Rangers) and really need to sign another pitcher. Garza's salary probably just shot over $100 million.

It probably helps Ervin Santana, too.

Only a foolish team would give a player with
a career .500 won/loss record that much money.

[WOLF]

Anyone see this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... wqIJ#gid=7

It's a vote tracker that was put together for HOF balloting. Brave voters can submit their choices and its posted here.

You can start to gain a sense of how certain candidates are trending. The sample size is still small, but it's looking like Maddux and Glavine are shoe-ins, the Bonds'/Macguires'/Clemens' of the world will not be forgiven, that Jack Morris might finally make it, and the 2nd best leadoff hitter in the history of the game (Tim Raines) will STILL be denied.

Who votes for Jeff Kent, Mike Piazza, and Mike Mussina over Tim Raines?! Ross Newhan apparently.

[killeverything]

This news makes Garza very, very happy. And it makes me sad because the Angels want him (despite his bad performance with the Rangers) and really need to sign another pitcher. Garza's salary probably just shot over $100 million.

It probably helps Ervin Santana, too.

Oh yeah those guys are seeing dollar signs. I think Santana is the one that scares me the most. I also expect somewhat of a bounce back from Matt Garza, last season he just seemed really unlucky. The guy's not an ace and shouldn't be expected to be, however in a good rotation he's a solid #3 1.5WAR player. I don't know what happened last year.

[killeverything]

Anyone see this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... wqIJ#gid=7

It's a vote tracker that was put together for HOF balloting. Brave voters can submit their choices and its posted here.

You can start to gain a sense of how certain candidates are trending. The sample size is still small, but it's looking like Maddux and Glavine are shoe-ins, the Bonds'/Macguires'/Clemens' of the world will not be forgiven, that Jack Morris might finally make it, and the 2nd best leadoff hitter in the history of the game (Tim Raines) will STILL be denied.

Who votes for Jeff Kent over Tim Raines?!

That's crazy. Jack Morris are you fucking kidding me?

[WOLF]

Anyone see this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... wqIJ#gid=7

It's a vote tracker that was put together for HOF balloting. Brave voters can submit their choices and its posted here.

You can start to gain a sense of how certain candidates are trending. The sample size is still small, but it's looking like Maddux and Glavine are shoe-ins, the Bonds'/Macguires'/Clemens' of the world will not be forgiven, that Jack Morris might finally make it, and the 2nd best leadoff hitter in the history of the game (Tim Raines) will STILL be denied.

Who votes for Jeff Kent over Tim Raines?!

That's crazy. Jack Morris are you fucking kidding me?

It's early, and not that many ballots have been submitted yet, and for sure only a brave few will submit their choices to this site. I'm sure results will change. Still it's interesting to see how some guys think.

[killeverything]

Anyone see this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... wqIJ#gid=7

It's a vote tracker that was put together for HOF balloting. Brave voters can submit their choices and its posted here.

You can start to gain a sense of how certain candidates are trending. The sample size is still small, but it's looking like Maddux and Glavine are shoe-ins, the Bonds'/Macguires'/Clemens' of the world will not be forgiven, that Jack Morris might finally make it, and the 2nd best leadoff hitter in the history of the game (Tim Raines) will STILL be denied.

Who votes for Jeff Kent over Tim Raines?!

That's crazy. Jack Morris are you fucking kidding me?

It's early, and not that many ballots have been submitted yet, and for sure only a brave few will submit their choices to this site. I'm sure results will change. Still it's interesting to see how some guys think.

I'm fully opposed to a fan vote. The problem with those is that they just basically ensure every single NY Yankees, Boston Red Sox or LA Dodgers player ever gets inducted.

[MurrayFiend]

I don't mind Ubaldo. Durable enough, good for 170 innings or more and with the exception of '12 he's been on a nice run since '08.

Garza's OK, and I'm definitely not sold on Santana, especially not at his supposed asking price.

Everyone's gonna be too expensive in this market, though, particularly if Tanaka is forced to stay put.

[Machado]

I'm fully opposed to a fan vote. The problem with those is that they just basically ensure every single NY Yankees, Boston Red Sox or LA Dodgers player ever gets inducted.

I agree. Fan vote is out of the question.
It's time for the voters to be exposed. Each and every vote should be
made public.
Enough of the hiding and not being held accountable for how a person voted.
If these people want the privilege to vote for the BBHOF, then pay the price.
Really simple.

[killeverything]

Grant Balfour's deal with Baltimore falls through due to physical. Balfour expresses confusion due to being in good health. All players say that shit ( see: Bay, Jason; Mets ) also with the exception of Tim Hudson, if Billy Beane moves on from a pitcher be wary. It's kind of like if Atlanta will trade one of their prospects....stay away. They saw something that you didn't and are giving you a Jesus Montero.

Duquette and the FO turn their attention to Fernando Rodney. Rodney wants at least 3 at 20 per. I think if anyone got lucky once and is going to come crashing down hard it's him.

[MurrayFiend]

Youk to take his talents to Japan.

[Machado]

Youk to take his talents to Japan.

WOW

From beantown to NYC to Japan

He's trending in the wrong direction

I hope the Japanese doctors can fix his back well enough for him to play
an entire season.

[MurrayFiend]

Poor guy, he really put up some monster years with the bat in Boston, pretty much from '07-'11 inclusive. Never been the picture of health, though, has he?