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Rev. Johnny Tyler wrote:The only thing stopping me from stomping a legal mud hole in pretzel's ass is finding the time to do it. It will be time consuming.
Sorry, guy, you missed the boat on that one. The letter he mocked up is dated 2009. Your YouTube video titled "FELONY LIBEL" is dated 2009. The statute of limitations in MA for libel is 3 years.
Hey, look on the bright side. You don't have to worry about freeing up time.
Rev. Johnny Tyler wrote:
And this isn't just about the stalker's phone calls. You can't post a complete fabrication online, directed at an individual, that is designed to defame or libel like what Pretzel did. http://masscases.com/cases/sjc/449/449mass42.html
The only thing stopping me from stomping a legal mud hole in pretzel's ass is finding the time to do it. It will be time consuming.
What you just posted has absolutely nothing to do with criminal libel. Why did you say you are going to "sue for felony libel" when it is legally impossible to do so, and even if it were, when no such statute exists?
GreatWhiteSnake wrote:I'm 46 and my dad's 67 and we kiss each other on the mouth and my 9 yo old son and I do too. It's because we love each other. A lot. And could give a shit what anyone else thinks about us kissing on the mouth.
He repeats the "suing for felony libel" horseshit and gives us
another Revtard legal neologism, "libelous harassment".
The guy is unhinged.
GreatWhiteSnake wrote:I'm 46 and my dad's 67 and we kiss each other on the mouth and my 9 yo old son and I do too. It's because we love each other. A lot. And could give a shit what anyone else thinks about us kissing on the mouth.
As far as I know, in order to win a libel suit, he would not only have to prove some sort of damage to his livelihood as a result of the libelous posts but FIRST prove that a reasonable person could read those defamatory posts and believe them as the truth.
Not only am I confident that he could not prove the latter, I'm not sure he could prove that anyone has READ those "libelous" posts. They merely exist. If anything, Rev actively promotes those blogs, inviting readership, by having his own reciprocal blog. The blogs between the two are near identical. Phony legalese designed to antagonize the other. None of it is based in reality. So...WHO WOULD BELIEVE ANY OF IT? No sane person. No sane person would even read the shit past a sentence or two.
This is all ignoring that the statute of limitations has passed.
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Gotta love the internet. Without it how would those two wackjobs have found each other? They are so much alike it's kinda scary. Well, Eddie sounds slightly more deranged but honestly not by that much. I'm just glad they are harassing and blogging and making videos about each other and leaving everyone else alone.
Scorpio88 wrote:Gotta love the internet. Without it how would those two wackjobs have found each other? They are so much alike it's kinda scary. Well, Eddie sounds slightly more deranged but honestly not by that much. I'm just glad they are harassing and blogging and making videos about each other and leaving everyone else alone.
There seems to be no end in sight so guess what? They're married to each other. They're going to spend the rest of their lives on this bullshit.
I know first hand that Rev is mentally ill. Not interested if anyone believes me, not interested in "proof." When the whole DC exposure went down, the Rev. Johnny Tyler nym showed up out of NOWHERE on that thread to talk about how he had a long talk with Stevie on the phone, got my name and address, and I was added to his "files" in this whole Pretzel debacle.
Naturally, I went "HUH???" I e-mailed Stevie and was like "What the fuck? You're giving out my shit to insane people?" He had no idea what that was about, there was no phone conversation, etc. Rev has no memory of this presumably because it was a lie he told 3 years ago.
At the same time I PMed Rev, like "What are you talking about?" He said that I was being added to the Pretzel lawsuit for gathering his personal info and posting it. I said "I don't remember that happening." He said "Why would you do that? Because you don't like my band?" I was utterly confused because 1. He's blaming me for something I had no idea I was even part of and 2. This was all in private, no audience. He was telling someone, in private, that they were responsible for pure fiction. That is insane people shit.
I apologized (as I do) and said "I don't remember that but if I did it, that sucks. That guy is an asshole and I wouldn't wish him on anybody." I followed that up by saying "By the way, if you want to sue me, you should have your attorney contact me and not inform me on a message board."
As God as my witness his reply was "Oh. Good to know."
Haven't heard a peep since, there have been no accessory to felony libel suits lobbied against me, and if Rev is still interested, he should update the address he has because I've moved.
But as I said, I'm not interested in anyone believing me, I'm more interested in clearing up my own personal confusion from this interaction. And I am 100% satisfied: He's insane, he's a liar, none of this shit was EVER real.
What would be my motivation for making this up? His rationale is that I want to be part of "the great Rev V Pretzel lawsuit." Really? That makes sense?
I'm sure Stevie still has the e-mail from 3 years ago. Buy a t-shirt and get a screenshot.
Can you just imagine this winding up in a courtroom and the judges reaction to this shit wasting his and the court's time? Even if the harassment is real, no judge wants to spend his time on this shit.
Can you see Rev (who it seems is representing himself, if he had a real lawyer he wouldn't be talking about "felony libel" and a lawyer would probably tell him to stay quiet about the whole thing instead of blabbing it all over the place...) before the judge "Your honor I'd like to present Exhibit A: a youtube video entitled "Eddie Pretzel Felony Libel"
Meanwhile, the judge is thinking "I went to law school and became a judge for THIS?"
GreatWhiteSnake wrote:I'm 46 and my dad's 67 and we kiss each other on the mouth and my 9 yo old son and I do too. It's because we love each other. A lot. And could give a shit what anyone else thinks about us kissing on the mouth.
Rev. Johnny Tyler wrote:The only thing stopping me from stomping a legal mud hole in pretzel's ass is finding the time to do it. It will be time consuming.
Sorry, guy, you missed the boat on that one. The letter he mocked up is dated 2009. Your YouTube video titled "FELONY LIBEL" is dated 2009. The statute of limitations in MA for libel is 3 years.
Hey, look on the bright side. You don't have to worry about freeing up time.
Chip Z'Hoy wrote:I know first hand that Rev is mentally ill. Not interested if anyone believes me, not interested in "proof."
Obviously!
When the whole DC exposure went down, the Rev. Johnny Tyler nym showed up out of NOWHERE on that thread to talk about how he had a long talk with Stevie on the phone, got my name and address, and I was added to his "files" in this whole Pretzel debacle.
Yep... Amazing how I suddenly showed up, after all those years, EXACTLY as you were having your ass handed to you on Sludge. Think about it.
Naturally, I went "HUH???" I e-mailed Stevie and was like "What the fuck? You're giving out my shit to insane people?" He had no idea what that was about, there was no phone conversation, etc. Rev has no memory of this presumably because it was a lie he told 3 years ago.
You obviously have your time frames confused. My battle with you stalking idiots was long before my conversation with Stevie regarding the red-headed bitch known as DC. Yes I spoke with him on the phone while you were having your colon reamed here on Sludge. He called me. I did not call him. You are as confused as you are nuts. I also never asked for nor received any of your personal information from Steve. He didn't call me to give me your info. That's all you need to know besides the fact the he called me and I was back on this site the next day... Think about it.
Of course he is going to deny giving me your info as that whole thing never happened except in that freckled little head of yours, crazy one. I'm right here on Stevie's board putting it in writing that I did indeed chat with Stevie during your whole "exposed" period and that he called me, not the other way around.
At the same time I PMed Rev, like "What are you talking about?" He said that I was being added to the Pretzel lawsuit for gathering his personal info and posting it. I said "I don't remember that happening." He said "Why would you do that? Because you don't like my band?" I was utterly confused because 1. He's blaming me for something I had no idea I was even part of and 2. This was all in private, no audience. He was telling someone, in private, that they were responsible for pure fiction. That is insane people shit.
I'm sure you have saved a PM or two from me then, right? I mean, you can pull up photos and photoshops of sludgers from umpteen years ago that you saved. Why in the wild, wild world of sports would you delete such GOLD as a PM from the great and powerful Rev that proves my insanity? ...Think about it.
I apologized (as I do) and said "I don't remember that but if I did it, that sucks. That guy is an asshole and I wouldn't wish him on anybody." I followed that up by saying "By the way, if you want to sue me, you should have your attorney contact me and not inform me on a message board."
As God as my witness his reply was "Oh. Good to know."
Again... Seems like GOLD to have such messages from me. Strange you never posted them back then or any other time up to this very day... Think about it.
But as I said, I'm not interested in anyone believing me...
Dude. I don't care. You caught me loaded and wanting to tell the whole story again.
Why would i NEED proof that this happened? You're a compulsive liar. I have no reason to lie about it. You lie about everything. That's my proof. DO THE MATH!!!! I thought nothing of those PMs because back then, like now, I knew you were full of shit. That's the whole point of my story. Or did you not get that?
But at least I gave you some fodder to work with while you ignore Noid's posts about you being COMPLETELY full of shit on the whole "felony libel" thing. Just ignore it. It'll go away.
Also, you claim that all these sleuths went around gathering your info when on this very thread, you posted a form letter from this employer who has been harassed by a crazy. Nobody needs to stalk you. You post everything anyone would ever need to harass you.
As far as "freckles" go, you're easily the freckliest person here. You look like skin cancer. Combine your leathery, freckly Martin Mull-eating-his-feelings visage and your Elmer Fudd voice, you wonder why no one takes you seriously when you scream FEWONY LIBOW! FEWONY LIBOW!
Chip Z'Hoy wrote:Dude. I don't care. You caught me loaded and wanting to tell the whole story again.
Why would i NEED proof that this happened? You're a compulsive liar. I have no reason to lie about it. You lie about everything. That's my proof. DO THE MATH!!!! I thought nothing of those PMs because back then, like now, I knew you were full of shit. That's the whole point of my story. Or did you not get that?
But at least I gave you some fodder to work with while you ignore Noid's posts about you being COMPLETELY full of shit on the whole "felony libel" thing. Just ignore it. It'll go away.
Also, you claim that all these sleuths went around gathering your info when on this very thread, you posted a form letter from this employer who has been harassed by a crazy. Nobody needs to stalk you. You post everything anyone would ever need to harass you.
As far as "freckles" go, you're easily the freckliest person here. You look like skin cancer. Combine your leathery, freckly Martin Mull-eating-his-feelings visage and your Elmer Fudd voice, you wonder why no one takes you seriously when you scream FEWONY LIBOW! FEWONY LIBOW!
Not to mention the fact that fedoras are super gay.
HeavyMetalZombie666 wrote:The sounds of that album gives me the brutal shits.
Rev, why did you come back and not take advantage of the opportunity to school everyone? Didn't you say that's your schtick here, schooling people? I anxiously await your schooling re: the "felony libel" issue.
A few more questions, if I may...
Stevie called you? How'd he get your number? (Oh wait....)
When exactly did you make the transition from covering your receding hairline with the Bret Michaels style bandanas to covering your receding hairline with fedoras? And more importantly do the judges allow you to wear a fedora or bandana in court?
I don't really get what you keep asking, Scorp.
The dude posted a written falsehood about me online. The falsehoods he published were defamatory.
Is it the word FELONY that is throwing you off?
It may or may not be felony libel, depending on which state laws are used. He posted from Detroit. I live in MA.
What he did is a FELONY in Michigan. It is at least a criminal offense in MA.
And for the brainiac who noted that there is a three year limitation on filing the libel accusation... Nice attention to detail!
He posted it in June of '13.
It is true... I am not a lawyer. I still have a clear case for a legitimate libel suit.
So what exactly is it that you are getting at, Scorp?
Only in Colorado was it ever considered a felony, and that was repealed. I think in like 16 or 17 states it is criminal but not a felony, and the rest it is a civil issue. No such term Felony Libel exists anymore.
Constantine wrote:ur a fkn degenerate,
Metal Sludge wrote:It is after all, only a message board...relax!
Trist805 wrote:Chip, You owned me and I will admit defeat. I love big black cocks. Hope you are happy.
As defamatory as they may have been (downright mean spirited!), I still don't know how they would have affected Revtard's life in any way other than making him mad. He hinted at the potential for loss of income (a future employer could read it) but I'm struggling to figure out what the actual damages would be other than hurt feelings.
My personal opinion is he likes the attention and actively encourages this "stalking." That would be my position if I was the judge.