The NFL Thread

[Machado]

The rule has been around for four years or so and just about every team has been screwed by it but now Machado says it needs to be changed. I'm sure it was just fine before.

i am going to be honest here, i never saw the rule applied before.
until last night i never saw the Calvin Johnson play that this rule is also known as. the Calvin Johnson play to me sure did look like a TD. he caught the ball in the endzone, took 2 steps, placed one hand on the ground while the other hand was clearly controlling the football until the ball touched the ground.
the play with Dez to me sure looked like a catch and taking 2 3/4 steps after catching the ball, followed by lunging for the goal line sure do seem like a football play.
the NFL has a bad rule in place and the rule should be changed. why leave it up to the officials to interpret what "a football move" is or is not.

[UtahRatt]

there was nothing wrong with throwing to Dez on 4th down.

Ya, that worked out really well for ya didn't it? Where did you learn football, Tecmo Bowl? First priority, all they needed was 2 yards dipshit. Honestly I thought it was a great decision. 4th and 2 and ROMO tosses a HAIL MARY TO DEZ! His open receivers up the middle would disagree but I loved it.

ROMO didn't glance at the OPEN receivers for the 1st down, he didn't check down his list! Dez was blanket covered from the snap and ROMO never took his eyes off him. Why? Because he sucks and was afraid of blowing it.

ROMO prayed Dez would bail him out and that's why Dallas is packing for home. That pass was a fucking BRICK, any other receiver and the ball flutters to the ground like a dead duck. Dez's amazing ability only made it close. Again, all the proof you need, in real and slow-mo time.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/11/7 ... ible-catch

After, Cowboy's D still couldn't hold Green Bay, how did they expect to score with 4 minutes left and hold Rodgers?

It was a blitz and his HOT READ was WIDE OPEN FOR THE FIRST DOWN but ROMO wouldn't know that because he eyed Dez all the way hoping to be saved and not blow it. But he did blow it.

Enjoy knowing a good QB who could handle pressure would have nailed one of his two open targets for the first down and possibly won the game.


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I'll never get tired of saying it, 4th and 2 and ROMO throws a Doug Flutie! CHOKER 4 LIFE!

I couldn't be happier for you, machado. Having a low IQ, a child like mind and no knowledge of the game must make it easy to lie to yourself and make excuses.

[UtahRatt]

i am going to be honest here, i never saw the rule applied before.

Like owning a toilet plunger?

[Machado]

there was nothing wrong with throwing to Dez on 4th down.

Ya, that worked out really well for ya didn't it? Where did you learn football, Tecmo Bowl? First priority, all they needed was 2 yards dipshit. Honestly I thought it was a great decision. 4th and 2 and ROMO tosses a HAIL MARY TO DEZ! His open receivers up the middle would disagree but I loved it.

ROMO didn't glance at the OPEN receivers for the 1st down, he didn't check down his list! Dez was blanket covered from the snap and ROMO never took his eyes off him. Why? Because he sucks and was afraid of blowing it.

ROMO prayed Dez would bail him out and that's why Dallas is packing for home. That pass was a fucking BRICK, any other receiver and the ball flutters to the ground like a dead duck. Dez's amazing ability only made it close. Again, all the proof you need, in real and slow-mo time.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/11/7 ... ible-catch

After, Cowboy's D still couldn't hold Green Bay, how did they expect to score with 4 minutes left and hold Rodgers?

It was a blitz and his HOT READ was WIDE OPEN FOR THE FIRST DOWN but ROMO wouldn't know that because he eyed Dez all the way hoping to be saved and not blow it. But he did blow it.

Enjoy knowing a good QB who could handle pressure would have nailed one of his two open targets for the first down and possibly won the game.


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I'll never get tired of saying it, 4th and 2 and ROMO throws a Doug Flutie! CHOKER 4 LIFE!

I couldn't be happier for you, machado. Having a low IQ, a child like mind and no knowledge of the game must make it easy to lie to yourself and make excuses.

The fictional world you live in must be a glorious place.
Since Romo did not throw a game ending INT or directly responsible for the loss,you resort to this fantasy world where you would have made the correct decision and be the hero of the game.
All from the confines of your bedroom that feature POM POMS as lamp shades and nude photos of men playing catch. FAG!!!

[UtahRatt]

Since this will go down in history "for a week" a "life time in Dallas" it needs a name.

1. The Incompletion!
2. The Fail Mary!
3. CHOKE! At least it's not and INT?
4. Two Yards and a BOMB to go!
5. i am going to be honest here, i never saw the rule applied before.

[UtahRatt]

Seattle vs Packers - Do the Packers have a chance? Any predictions?

I hope he's halfway healthy, I look forward to Rodgers against that Monster D. Clearly Lacy will be bottled up but if he breaks 100+ it could be the difference. What's the Packer game plan....Load the box, force Russell to beat you with his arm and stick to the run as long as you can. Russell don't have many targets and the Packers are fair against the pass. Sam Shields, Clay Matthews could have a good day.

I like the Packers CB's vs Seattle's WR's and possibly putting pressure on Russ.

I like Seattle against the pack in about every other aspect. Unless the Pack build a lead in the 2nd half.

Hard to see the Hawks losing. It's could be a game of FG's for Green Bay, if so they lose. If the Hawks don't dominate........


Hawks 27 Packers 17
upset:
Packers 27 Hawks 13

[UtahRatt]

New England Patriots vs Indianapolis Colts - predictions?

I'm still not big on the Colts apart from Luck and TY but when they're on they're on. Revis and TY will be a battle. It's a good match, the Brady factor, Gronkowski and a few more hands tips the scales.

I see the Colt's being out played and out coached, Belichick will find a way and shred the evidence.

If Luck goes on a terror and carries the team on his back I'll put him on the next level of QB's.

Not sure of the weather....

Patriots 31 Colts 21
upset
Patriots 17 Colts 24

[UtahRatt]

The fictional world you live in must be a glorious place.
Since Romo did not throw a game ending INT or directly responsible for the loss,you resort to this fantasy world where you would have made the correct decision and be the hero of the game.
All from the confines of your bedroom that feature POM POMS as lamp shades and nude photos of men playing catch. FAG!!!

He's directly responsible. Instead hitting a wide open receiver for the first down he closed his eyes and threw up a prayer of a pass. How is that not responsible?

With that much time on the clock.....
A non choking quarterback with any confidence and intelligence would have went for the first down, two puny yards. Dez was blanket covered from the snap and Romo didn't think twice about checking him off, he eyed him all the way putting the season on the line for a Hail Mary.
Banking your season on a Jump Ball instead of going for 2 yards was the dumbest play all year and ended your season.

Personally, I don't see any problem with Romo throwing a Teabow to a covered Dez without looking off or scanning the field. It worked out great.


Game over.

[Crazy Levi]

Since Romo did not throw a game ending INT or directly responsible for the loss,

What's the fucking difference?

THE GAME WAS OVER on that play. I was in a bar filled with Dallas fans and when that call came in they all started leaving.

He choked. THere was no reason for that play he needed TWO YARDS to continue the drive.

Just like I said...any other end to the season besides a Romo INT for a fucking change and idiots like Machado would be ready to Bronze bust the QB. He might as well have thrown an INT dude...if anything it would have put the Cowboys in better field position.

[Machado]

What can Rex Ryan do for you Buffalo? Rex will give the team a well known head coach for the media to eat up, get there headlines, etc......, Rex will probably win over the fans of Buffalo with his enthusiasm, but Rex is going to hate looking at his QB depth.

EJ Manuel is Gino Smith squared

[veritas]

Seattle vs Packers - Do the Packers have a chance? Any predictions?

I hope he's halfway healthy, I look forward to Rodgers against that Monster D. Clearly Lacy will be bottled up but if he breaks 100+ it could be the difference. What's the Packer game plan....Load the box, force Russell to beat you with his arm and stick to the run as long as you can. Russell don't have many targets and the Packers are fair against the pass. Sam Shields, Clay Matthews could have a good day.

I like the Packers CB's vs Seattle's WR's and possibly putting pressure on Russ.

I like Seattle against the pack in about every other aspect. Unless the Pack build a lead in the 2nd half.

Hard to see the Hawks losing. It's could be a game of FG's for Green Bay, if so they lose. If the Hawks don't dominate........


Hawks 27 Packers 17
upset:
Packers 27 Hawks 13

Unfortunately, I think Seattle is going to kill them.
Hope I'm wrong.

I think New England will handle the Colts alright.
Given the Colts' better run defense with Jones and just the overall quality of their play against the Broncos, coupled with Patriots not looking so hot against the Ravens, I think the game will be significantly closer than past Luck/Colts matchups.

But I can't help but think that the Patriots' toughest game in the AFC playoffs was the Ravens game, not this one.

[DaveB]

New England Patriots vs Indianapolis Colts - predictions?

Indy has been too inconsistent. Like you said, when they're on, they're on. But there's been too many games where they simply didn't show up. Their win over Denver didn't surprise me as much as it did most people. Manning has been hobbled for a month and it's the playoffs...injured or not, he just doesn't come through in the playoffs.

NE has just been a machine though. I'd love to see them slip up but I don't see it happening.

Pats: 35
Colts: 21

[UtahRatt]

Since Romo did not throw a game ending INT or directly responsible for the loss,

What's the fucking difference?

THE GAME WAS OVER on that play. I was in a bar filled with Dallas fans and when that call came in they all started leaving.

He choked. THere was no reason for that play he needed TWO YARDS to continue the drive.

Just like I said...any other end to the season besides a Romo INT for a fucking change and idiots like Machado would be ready to Bronze bust the QB. He might as well have thrown an INT dude...if anything it would have put the Cowboys in better field position.

It was a shit throw to begin with that took an total circus act to make it even close......Sherman, Haden, Talib, Revis would have picked that duck off. Shields even got a couple fingers on it to create the bobble.

So the horrible decision and shit throw wasn't Romo's fault at all.



Getting robbed was the Detroit game that I'm sure machado agreed and felt bad about. I'm sure he read the report but just in case he don't know the difference between getting robbed on a bad call and the correct call he can go over the evidence.

Head of NFL officiating says Cowboys should have been flagged for defensive holding vs Detroit.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/1/4 ... overturned


Refs (correctly) overturn Dez Bryant's incredible catch.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/11/7 ... ible-catch

But we know Machado's reply......

i am going to be honest here, i never saw the rule applied before.

Either way the Cowboys are finished, done and dead thanks to Romo's bad decision and throw so it's time to move on and forget about that lame team.

To the decent Dallas fans out there, hell of a game. They have a ton of decisions to make in the off season from Dez, Murray, McClain, Carr.....If they lose Carr what's Claiborne going to be like coming off a blown knee?

But it's the NFC East, so it's not like they're in bad shape.

[kylel]

Could get interesting...

Panthers G.M.: No longer limited to “dollar store” purchases

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... &utm_tags=

[Machado]

Since Romo did not throw a game ending INT or directly responsible for the loss,

What's the fucking difference?

THE GAME WAS OVER on that play. I was in a bar filled with Dallas fans and when that call came in they all started leaving.

He choked. THere was no reason for that play he needed TWO YARDS to continue the drive.

Just like I said...any other end to the season besides a Romo INT for a fucking change and idiots like Machado would be ready to Bronze bust the QB. He might as well have thrown an INT dude...if anything it would have put the Cowboys in better field position.

It was a shit throw to begin with that took an total circus act to make it even close......Sherman, Haden, Talib, Revis would have picked that duck off. Shields even got a couple fingers on it to create the bobble.

So the horrible decision and shit throw wasn't Romo's fault at all.



Getting robbed was the Detroit game that I'm sure machado agreed and felt bad about. I'm sure he read the report but just in case he don't know the difference between getting robbed on a bad call and the correct call he can go over the evidence.

Head of NFL officiating says Cowboys should have been flagged for defensive holding vs Detroit.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/1/4 ... overturned


Refs (correctly) overturn Dez Bryant's incredible catch.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/11/7 ... ible-catch

But we know Machado's reply......

i am going to be honest here, i never saw the rule applied before.

Either way the Cowboys are finished, done and dead thanks to Romo's bad decision and throw so it's time to move on and forget about that lame team.

To the decent Dallas fans out there, hell of a game. They have a ton of decisions to make in the off season from Dez, Murray, McClain, Carr.....If they lose Carr what's Claiborne going to be like coming off a blown knee?

But it's the NFC East, so it's not like they're in bad shape.

Utah-You can write a book and that will not takeaway from your Trolling around here.
If you read what I wrote correctly, instead of coming up with your own assumptions, I clearly wrote that the rule was applied correctly and that the rule needs to be changed.

Go ahead and blame Romo all you want. You had a prepared statement ready for the Cowboys here for about 8 weeks or more.

You live in a fantasy world and create situations that benefit you and you only.

[Crazy Levi]

Could get interesting...

Panthers G.M.: No longer limited to “dollar store” purchases

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... &utm_tags=

Be careful what you wish for. Big money free agents didn't save the Denver Broncos or countless other teams.

[UtahRatt]

Unfortunately, I think Seattle is going to kill them.
Hope I'm wrong.

I think New England will handle the Colts alright.

The more I think about it the more I simply agree with that.

Sure it's the playoffs and anything can happen but going according to plan Seattle should steamroll the Pack. Green Bay is gonna need some turn overs, special teams or big plays.

Same with New England, they've been consistent and agree their toughest test was last week.
The upgrades in the secondary this season was made for this game vs the Colts. After getting KOed by Denver last year Belichick picked up Revis a month later and said his priority was to not get burned in the passing game again. He was probably expecting Denver again but he's been planning to defend this playoff game for a year. Denver....Colts...We'll see what he's got in store for Luck.

[Tenacious_Dio]

Am I the only one who thinks it makes zero sense that the early game is in Seattle, and the late game is in Foxboro?

[Machado]

Am I the only one who thinks it makes zero sense that the early game is in Seattle, and the late game is in Foxboro?

Makes perfect sense if the early game begins at 12:30 pacific & the late game kicks off at 3:40 pacific time

[demolition23]

If Luck goes on a terror and carries the team on his back I'll put him on the next level of QB's.

If he commits an act of terror he'll certainly be placed on a different level of QBing.

[Tenacious_Dio]

Am I the only one who thinks it makes zero sense that the early game is in Seattle, and the late game is in Foxboro?

Makes perfect sense if the early game begins at 12:30 pacific & the late game kicks off at 3:40 pacific time

How does it make perfect sense? Seattle game kicks off at 12:05 pacific time, which is an hour earlier than any home game they've had this season. Flop the games, and they're both kicking off close to 3:00 pm, local time.

[Gritt]

Am I the only one who thinks it makes zero sense that the early game is in Seattle, and the late game is in Foxboro?

It makes perfect sense. The Patriots are a bigger ratings draw.

[Machado]

Am I the only one who thinks it makes zero sense that the early game is in Seattle, and the late game is in Foxboro?

Makes perfect sense if the early game begins at 12:30 pacific & the late game kicks off at 3:40 pacific time

How does it make perfect sense? Seattle game kicks off at 12:05 pacific time, which is an hour earlier than any home game they've had this season. Flop the games, and they're both kicking off close to 3:00 pm, local time.

TV calls the shots. TV ads dictate which game is the bigger draw. No chance Tom Brady and his Pats are going to kick off before 6 pm local time.

[Tenacious_Dio]

Am I the only one who thinks it makes zero sense that the early game is in Seattle, and the late game is in Foxboro?

It makes perfect sense. The Patriots are a bigger ratings draw.

Not this year. On average, Seahawks games in primetime did bigger ratings than the Pats.

I could see it if it were Brady vs Manning, but it's not.

[Machado]

Am I the only one who thinks it makes zero sense that the early game is in Seattle, and the late game is in Foxboro?

It makes perfect sense. The Patriots are a bigger ratings draw.

Not this year. On average, Seahawks games in primetime did bigger ratings than the Pats.

I could see it if it were Brady vs Manning, but it's not.

Have you gone mad? The match up this weekend is Brady vs Luck(the second coming of Manning) The ratings will go through the roof.

[Tenacious_Dio]

Have you gone mad? The match up this weekend is Brady vs Luck(the second coming of Manning) The ratings will go through the roof.

Numbers don't lie. The first Seahawks/Packers game this year drew 27 million viewers. Patriots/Colts drew 19 million.

[Machado]

Have you gone mad? The match up this weekend is Brady vs Luck(the second coming of Manning) The ratings will go through the roof.

Numbers don't lie. The first Seahawks/Packers game this year drew 27 million viewers. Patriots/Colts drew 19 million.

Something tells me the NFL, FOX, CBS and Madison Ave knows a little bit more about why the games are being plaed at specific times of the day.

[Tenacious_Dio]

Have you gone mad? The match up this weekend is Brady vs Luck(the second coming of Manning) The ratings will go through the roof.

Numbers don't lie. The first Seahawks/Packers game this year drew 27 million viewers. Patriots/Colts drew 19 million.

Something tells me the NFL, FOX, CBS and Madison Ave knows a little bit more about why the games are being plaed at specific times of the day.

It could be that it was already decided that Fox would get the early game, and CBS would get the late game, no matter where they were played. If that's the case, the point is moot.

It is still odd to see a West coast team playing at home, at noon.

ETA: Just looked it up. Apparently, the conferences rotate every year. Did not know that. Which makes sense, since the Pats-Broncos were the early game last year.

[Machado]

Dio-If you want to complain about a kick off time, you should really divert your attention
to this:
Next season 2 NFL games in London are going to kick off at 9:30 Eastern Time.
WTF!!!

[UtahRatt]

Utah-You can write a book and that will not takeaway from your Trolling around here.

You couldn't write a book and nothing will takeaway from your stupidity around here.

I clearly wrote that the rule was applied correctly and that the rule needs to be changed.

Nothing is wrong with the rule, the pass sucked and Dez didn't maintain control. If it was Jordy Nelson you would have been cool with it.
Dez bobbled the ball all the way to the ground till it popped out. There was less then a second of possession and that was in one hand right before he hit the turf. One hell of an effort but better catches have been over turned. If it wasn't a season ending playoff, there would be no talk about it.

It's a bad rule when it happens to your team but you didn't have a problem against Detroit.

Go ahead and blame Romo all you want. You had a prepared statement ready for the Cowboys here for about 8 weeks or more.

Dallas lost the game because of it, who are you going to blame, the rule book? It was a horrible play call and a shitty pass. How come Romo didn't look him off and hit the wide open receiver for the 1st down?

It's all ROMO's fault so come to terms with it.

Romo was afraid to go across the middle and have it intercepted. Why else would he not check off and look for an open receiver? He shouldn't have even looked at Dez, that fly route was to drop any safeties back to open up the middle of the field for the 3 targets at the first down marker.

You think going for a bomb on 4th n two with 4 minutes left in Packer territory was a good call? That would have left Rodgers all day to drive the field and win. Do you think that brick of a throw was even close to on target?
So who do you blame for the loss Machado? You don't think getting the first down was #1 priority then grinding down the clock while going in for the score would have been the right call?