Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[Machado]

Big game Kershaw strikes again. That guy is a fraud. Very good stats during the reg season but when it counts, HE GONE!
Might as well call him Mr March

[UtahRatt]

Big game Kershaw strikes again. That guy is a fraud. Very good stats during the reg season but when it counts, HE GONE!
Might as well call him Mr March

March has already been taken, that's Aroid, you don't have to cry about it.

Are you still crying?

Awwww your hero has a nick name and it upsets you.

At least Clayton struck 2 batters an inning and gave up 1ER while being charged only 3ER. The team only hit in 1.

How many did NY knock in? That's right, they only made the wild card.

I have a hard time blaming all of Kershaw's for anything when we have a stupid moronic EX-YANKEE coach who's as dumb as their fans.

[Machado]

Big game Kershaw strikes again. That guy is a fraud. Very good stats during the reg season but when it counts, HE GONE!
Might as well call him Mr March

March has already been taken, that's Aroid, you don't have to cry about it.

Are you still crying?

Awwww your hero has a nick name and it upsets you.

At least Clayton struck 2 batters an inning and gave up 1ER while being charged only 3ER. The team only hit in 1.

How many did NY knock in? That's right, they only made the wild card.

I have a hard time blaming all of Kershaw's for anything when we have a stupid moronic EX-YANKEE coach who's as dumb as their fans.

what the fuck are you babbling about? comparing Kershaw to ARod.
Kershaw should be playing for the Nationals because that team is full of players who are projected to be championships and have not won anything yet.
When Kershaw wins a WS, then you can talk. Until that happens, Kershaw is a loser.

Stop the madness Utah. All of the regular season awards and accomplishments mean nothing once the playoffs begin. Great players are remembered for winning Championships, not never getting to the big game.

[Gritt]

Yeah. Nobody remembers that Griffey guy.

[UtahRatt]

All of the regular season awards and accomplishments mean nothing once the playoffs begin. Great players are remembered for winning Championships, not never getting to the big game.

Like Dan Marino?
Great players are remembered for being great players dumbass. Aroid choked dicks in the playoffs. It is a team game, kind of hard to win when your team puts up 0. Which is what Aroid was known for.

Why are you even talking about the yankees, they didn't make the postseason. Remember, typical Aroid went 0 FOR 4 with 2 STRIKE OUTS and left 3 OB?

Aroid will always be remembered for being the face of Steroids. PEDS. That's his legacy. If you think different we'll see how long it takes for him to get into the HOF.

[UtahRatt]

Tejada fractures fibula on Utley's hard slide................

That was a hell of a take out eh? I'm sure it's going to be a long debate.

That's at least the 4th time I've watched Utley break up the DP by violently taking out the SS/2B without really going for the bag. Utley leveled Tejada.

Now here's replay at work for ya and why I hate it. It takes away all those normal routine plays at second that they miss the side by a cunt hair. It's gonna start forcing them to step on the bag instead of touching the side.
So Tejada missed touching the bag on the relay by a cunt hair, Utley slides in brutally takes out Tejada and not even close to touching the bag himself. Mattingly calls for a review, Utley is safe because Tejada missed the bag by a hair but there wasn't a replay for Utley not touching the bag himself.

I'm still trying to understand this....
Because of the rule, if the UMP calls the runner out and the replay over turns the runner is safe regardless? There's no chance for appeal I guess because the UMP called him out and it was overturned....So Utley didn't have to touch the bag let alone go back and touch the bag.

So call and replay opened the doors and that lead to 4ER's.

Most of me thinks it was dirty, part of me loves hard nose plays and thought it was a good break and with Tejada's back turned and twisting to throw the ball made it worse then it normally would have been. And if Utley wouldn't have collided with Tejada his hand would have landed on the bag but the impact took his hand off from touching it.

Not sure I agree with the call, I'll have to absorb it. I'm surprised it didn't start a bean ball, benches clearing pushing match. I wont be shocked if Utley get's beaned in the next game.

[killeverything]

Yeah. Nobody remembers that Griffey guy.

Ted Williams who?

[UtahRatt]

"The fact he was called out means he was not required to touch second base. When the play is overturned he's awarded second base. If they had tagged Utley before he went off the field he would have been out."

And there you go.....

[UtahRatt]

Yeah. Nobody remembers that Griffey guy.

Ted Williams who?

Don Mattingly?

[killeverything]

"The fact he was called out means he was not required to touch second base. When the play is overturned he's awarded second base. If they had tagged Utley before he went off the field he would have been out."

And there you go.....

The whole thing stems from an umpire fuckup. I'm not sure why NYM wasn't allowed to challenge Utley missing the bag afterwards. In fact the last time I saw the officials give LA a game like that it was for the Lakers and their "dynasty" run.

[Machado]

"The fact he was called out means he was not required to touch second base. When the play is overturned he's awarded second base. If they had tagged Utley before he went off the field he would have been out."

And there you go.....

The whole thing stems from an umpire fuckup. I'm not sure why NYM wasn't allowed to challenge Utley missing the bag afterwards. In fact the last time I saw the officials give LA a game like that it was for the Lakers and their "dynasty" run.

Utley has a rep for sliding hard into 2nd base. And remember several years ago he took out Tejada with a hard slide.
IMO, the play should be taken out of the game. Some of you should look up the "rolling slide" Hal McCrae did to Willie Randolph back in the day. And that play we legal during that era. WOW!

MLB should change the rule so that the sliding player must slide directly into the bag & not given the option to touch the base with his hand, while his feet are intentionally blowing up the 2b or SS.

The play was not dirty but the play should no longer be allowed in the game. Utley better retire before next season because I think the Mets
will hold off retaliating until 2016. Harvey cannot drill Utley in game 3 or in this series. Far too much at stake.

[Gritt]

Yeah. Nobody remembers that Griffey guy.

Ted Williams who?

Don Mattingly?

Ernie Banks?

[Machado]

Ted Williams, Ernie Banks and Mattingly, they all have 1 thing in common.
They are not champions.

Plain and simple. You can argue how great each player was and certainly Mattingly was not as great as the other two, but neither of them won a WS.

IMO, that holds a lot of weight in the legacy of a player.

[UtahRatt]

But what about Vanilla Bryce?

Bryce Bryce baby!

Hey Bryce your team folded and missed the playoffs what are your plans now?

Yo, Twitter, let's kick it! Set up the cam and I'll click it!


I was skimming around and noticed even Bryce's mole has it's own twitter account!

Bryce's Mole
@BHarpersMole
Bryce's loyal face mole: perspective from a Bryce's eye view

[UtahRatt]

IMO, that holds a lot of weight in the legacy of a player.

And that's why your opinion carries no weight but it does add to the legacy of your stupidity.

M13.....

[Machado]

IMO, that holds a lot of weight in the legacy of a player.

And that's why your opinion carries no weight but it does add to the legacy of your stupidity.

M13.....

there you go again. on that soapbox. trying to make a point.

there is a huge difference between a great player and a champion.
do not blame me that Ted Williams and Ernie Banks and Mattingly were not good enough players to get that WS ring. maybe they were great but not great enough. maybe neither of them could hit so well in late Sept or any number of reasons.

there are winners and there are losers.
currently, Kershaw is a loser. until he wins a ring, he would probably trade all his individual awards for a WS ring.

before you ask the question(again), yes i do feel like the 2015 Yankee season was a failure(again) because this team did not win another WS title. the goal for that team every season is to win a WS. anything short of that is a failure.
now maybe some teams in MLB or other sports feel that attitude is extreme but i happen to agree with the philosophy.

[Gritt]

Matardo has reached new levels of stupid.

[Machado]

Matardo has reached new levels of stupid.

quite the contrary. you just accept losing because you yourself
are a loser.

[UtahRatt]

before you ask the question(again), yes i do feel like the 2015 Yankee season was a failure(again) because this team did not win another WS title. the goal for that team every season is to win a WS. anything short of that is a failure.
now maybe some teams in MLB or other sports feel that attitude is extreme but i happen to agree with the philosophy.

First you say it's the player now you're saying it's the team........Make up you mind, Derp.

It takes a team to get a ring, like all the ones the Yankees bought and tried to buy........

[killeverything]

before you ask the question(again), yes i do feel like the 2015 Yankee season was a failure(again) because this team did not win another WS title. the goal for that team every season is to win a WS. anything short of that is a failure.
now maybe some teams in MLB or other sports feel that attitude is extreme but i happen to agree with the philosophy.

First you say it's the player now you're saying it's the team........Make up you mind, Derp.

It takes a team to get a ring, like all the ones the Yankees bought and tried to buy........

Totally. It's Williams fault Pesky made an error in the bottom of the 9th in '47. Just like it's Mattingly's fault Georgie Peorgie wouldn't supply him with pitching in the 80s.

I don't know why Ernie Banks didn't take the mound himself. He should have. The loser.

Machado, are you a fan of any teams that haven't won a lot or really, really popular? Since regional loyalty means nothing to you, do like any underdogs? Or is it all wherever Lebron is, Cowboys, Yankees, etc. Do you ever root for a Tampa Bay, or Miami, or Clippers?

[killeverything]

"The fact he was called out means he was not required to touch second base. When the play is overturned he's awarded second base. If they had tagged Utley before he went off the field he would have been out."

And there you go.....

The whole thing stems from an umpire fuckup. I'm not sure why NYM wasn't allowed to challenge Utley missing the bag afterwards. In fact the last time I saw the officials give LA a game like that it was for the Lakers and their "dynasty" run.

Utley has a rep for sliding hard into 2nd base. And remember several years ago he took out Tejada with a hard slide.
IMO, the play should be taken out of the game. Some of you should look up the "rolling slide" Hal McCrae did to Willie Randolph back in the day. And that play we legal during that era. WOW!

MLB should change the rule so that the sliding player must slide directly into the bag & not given the option to touch the base with his hand, while his feet are intentionally blowing up the 2b or SS.

The play was not dirty but the play should no longer be allowed in the game. Utley better retire before next season because I think the Mets
will hold off retaliating until 2016. Harvey cannot drill Utley in game 3 or in this series. Far too much at stake.

I'm not sure how I feel about this.

Intentionally, meaning going nowhere near the bag to take a guy out is fucked up, but it's part of the game. You can't fucking head-hunt anymore. I wonder if Ryan would have been as successful if he wasn't allowed to potentially kill you.

While I love Posey, the new homeplate rule is called the 'Posey Rule,' because of his injury. I get it, but baseball will always/needs to be this:

[UtahRatt]

Machado, are you a fan of any teams that haven't won a lot or really, really popular? Since regional loyalty means nothing to you, do like any underdogs? Or is it all wherever Lebron is, Cowboys, Yankees, etc. Do you ever root for a Tampa Bay, or Miami, or Clippers?

His famous comment in the NFL thread was when Machado went to games he always rooted for the other team because he didn't like teams with all the fans rooting for them....But he's a Dallas and Yankees fanatic....Troll Figure.



I'm still pissed Mattingly yanked Clayton. Remember the SF game when he threw 132 pitches....The Giants had the bases loaded and Mattingly walks to the mound which is always you're coming out but Kershaw and Utley said he's staying! Mattingly left him in and Kershaw got the last out. No problem.

Then we go to the Met's game, exact same situation! 2 outs, bases loaded, 103 pitches but Mattingly pulls him out of the game. WTF?
He's already at 103 with 2 outs so what's the point of pulling him? Let him work out of the jam, that's what they do and how it work's, what's the problem? The only excuse the announcers came up with was so you could use him on short rest? After 103 pitches? 1 more batter?

Then Mattingly goes to the warmed up pen and picks Baez over J.P. Howell and my head exploded. Baez has 2.2IP of post season experience, 75IP career. So instead of 1ER Baez puts one over the plate and bring in two more. That's a Managers blown call, not the pitcher. But in the stats he looks like David Price. Which he really is at this point.
Mattingly has miss managed LAD ever year in the playoffs. I have no clue why he changes things up when the post season comes. From the line up to his pitchers he plays a different game and it's not working. Since August he got the running game going but didn't try a SB even tho LAD put 8 on.

Starting Joc and putting him in the 8th spot? Why change the line up? Not to mention if Puig is ready and as much as I hate to say it he should be in there if not Hernandez, Puig and Hernandez bats are better, Puig's hitting .308 in the post season and has a chance to spark. But instead Mattingly went with his Rookies and LAD gets 1R.....In the 8th. Hard to win a game with one run.

That was the topic in pregame. Why start your rookies instead the vets who's been there? Mattingly set Kershaw up for no run support then didn't let him pitch out of a jam. Good Games Don.
DeGrom was totally dominating LAD had their chances, Don didn't do anything with them.

Game 2, Mattingly goes back to his regular line up with Hernandez, Joc is a PH, Grandal is catching. LAD wins.

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They're sure making a huge deal out of Utley's slide, don't know what the consensuses is around the league but it was all over the local news tonight like train wreck. Hello local sports news, that happened Friday, it's Sunday! I bet Utley gets a warm welcome in NYMMMM.

If the 2B didn't give him a delayed bad flip Tejada would have been in a better position. After seeing the replay 100 times I don't think they get the DP either way because of the flip and Tejada's back turned. Sucks he's out. If he didn't get injured it's small print. I'm surprised Utley got right up, he took a hard knock.

[UtahRatt]

Another 4 game day on Tomorrow.......4 overlapping Post Season games on a Monday....Derrr..

It's like I've only got to watch bits and pieces of the playoffs and the best of 5 sucks in the divisional rounds.

Royals 2 Houston 4 - Astro's up 2-1

Toronto 5 Rangers 1 - Rangers up 2-1

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MLB Communications on Twitter: "LAD INF Utley has been suspended for Games 3 & 4 of NLDS as a result of his ...

MLB overreacts with two-game suspension of Chase Utley
Los Angeles Times‎ - 2 hours ago

Chase Utley suspended by MLB for Games 3 and 4 of NLDS for 'illegal' slide
Yahoo Sports‎ - 2 hours ago

Chase Utley suspended 2 games for slide into Ruben Tejada, will appeal
ESPN‎ - 3 hours ago

NEW YORK -- Major League Baseball has suspended Los Angeles Dodgers infielder Chase Utley for Games 3 and 4 of the National League Division Series for what the league deemed was an illegal slide into New York Mets shortstop Ruben Tejada.
Utley will appeal the suspension. The Dodgers expect the matter to be heard quickly, likely well before game time Monday night, a source said.

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I love that picture, isn't that Ted and his spikes?

Bull shit.........Yesterday MLB called it a legal rolling slide, today it's called an illegal rolling block. Last night they made the decision it was ok, today they're saying it's not so like I mentioned before....This could or probably will bring a new rule change.


I hate the home plate rule and taking out the 2b/ss is part of the game. One injury in an awkward position and it's a rule change today....All about money. I was a catcher BTW and got knocked on my ass, yes it hurts but I still say.....That's my plate and if I'm getting the ball you better bowl me over to get it.

[Gritt]

You talking about the pic killeverything posted? That's Ty Cobb.

[killeverything]

You talking about the pic killeverything posted? That's Ty Cobb.

Ty Cobb with sharpened spikes.

[Machado]

before you ask the question(again), yes i do feel like the 2015 Yankee season was a failure(again) because this team did not win another WS title. the goal for that team every season is to win a WS. anything short of that is a failure.
now maybe some teams in MLB or other sports feel that attitude is extreme but i happen to agree with the philosophy.

First you say it's the player now you're saying it's the team........Make up you mind, Derp.

It takes a team to get a ring, like all the ones the Yankees bought and tried to buy........

Totally. It's Williams fault Pesky made an error in the bottom of the 9th in '47. Just like it's Mattingly's fault Georgie Peorgie wouldn't supply him with pitching in the 80s.

I don't know why Ernie Banks didn't take the mound himself. He should have. The loser.

Machado, are you a fan of any teams that haven't won a lot or really, really popular? Since regional loyalty means nothing to you, do like any underdogs? Or is it all wherever Lebron is, Cowboys, Yankees, etc. Do you ever root for a Tampa Bay, or Miami, or Clippers?

fuck King James and fuck the NBA.
who gives a shit about TB, Miami or the Clippers. i do not have regional loyalty. the teams i follow year after year are the teams i am loyal to. no reason for me to jump ship because the team i root for does not win in any given year. not like some people here who suddenly go from cheering for their regional team until they are a non-factor.

underdogs are great in boxing matches. i.e., when Douglas knocked out Tyson. that was impressive and i enjoyed seeing Iron Mike taking a beating.

[Machado]

Another 4 game day on Tomorrow.......4 overlapping Post Season games on a Monday....Derrr..

It's like I've only got to watch bits and pieces of the playoffs and the best of 5 sucks in the divisional rounds.

Royals 2 Houston 4 - Astro's up 2-1

Toronto 5 Rangers 1 - Rangers up 2-1

---------------------------------------------------------

MLB Communications on Twitter: "LAD INF Utley has been suspended for Games 3 & 4 of NLDS as a result of his ...

MLB overreacts with two-game suspension of Chase Utley
Los Angeles Times‎ - 2 hours ago

Chase Utley suspended by MLB for Games 3 and 4 of NLDS for 'illegal' slide
Yahoo Sports‎ - 2 hours ago

Chase Utley suspended 2 games for slide into Ruben Tejada, will appeal
ESPN‎ - 3 hours ago

NEW YORK -- Major League Baseball has suspended Los Angeles Dodgers infielder Chase Utley for Games 3 and 4 of the National League Division Series for what the league deemed was an illegal slide into New York Mets shortstop Ruben Tejada.
Utley will appeal the suspension. The Dodgers expect the matter to be heard quickly, likely well before game time Monday night, a source said.

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I love that picture, isn't that Ted and his spikes?

Bull shit.........Yesterday MLB called it a legal rolling slide, today it's called an illegal rolling block. Last night they made the decision it was ok, today they're saying it's not so like I mentioned before....This could or probably will bring a new rule change.


I hate the home plate rule and taking out the 2b/ss is part of the game. One injury in an awkward position and it's a rule change today....All about money. I was a catcher BTW and got knocked on my ass, yes it hurts but I still say.....That's my plate and if I'm getting the ball you better bowl me over to get it.

Utah-the umpires fucked up from the jump. they made the wrong call, review made the wrong call and as a result, we have a SS with a busted leg and of course the media is going to be talking about this story.

IMO, the act of taking out a 2b or SS needs to be taken out of the game. does MLB need another Posey incident at 2b? i don't think so.]
slide directly into the bag and if the runner is unable, the runner should be out.
i can see something serious happening soon over at 1st base. how often do we see the runner running hard from home to first, only to not be running in between the lines and making contact with the defender at 1st.
years ago Brian Roberts tore his arm on a similar play. yet when this happens the runner and 1st base coach argue they were running in the running lane. WRONG!

[killeverything]

Another 4 game day on Tomorrow.......4 overlapping Post Season games on a Monday....Derrr..

It's like I've only got to watch bits and pieces of the playoffs and the best of 5 sucks in the divisional rounds.

Royals 2 Houston 4 - Astro's up 2-1

Toronto 5 Rangers 1 - Rangers up 2-1

---------------------------------------------------------

MLB Communications on Twitter: "LAD INF Utley has been suspended for Games 3 & 4 of NLDS as a result of his ...

MLB overreacts with two-game suspension of Chase Utley
Los Angeles Times‎ - 2 hours ago

Chase Utley suspended by MLB for Games 3 and 4 of NLDS for 'illegal' slide
Yahoo Sports‎ - 2 hours ago

Chase Utley suspended 2 games for slide into Ruben Tejada, will appeal
ESPN‎ - 3 hours ago

NEW YORK -- Major League Baseball has suspended Los Angeles Dodgers infielder Chase Utley for Games 3 and 4 of the National League Division Series for what the league deemed was an illegal slide into New York Mets shortstop Ruben Tejada.
Utley will appeal the suspension. The Dodgers expect the matter to be heard quickly, likely well before game time Monday night, a source said.

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I love that picture, isn't that Ted and his spikes?

Bull shit.........Yesterday MLB called it a legal rolling slide, today it's called an illegal rolling block. Last night they made the decision it was ok, today they're saying it's not so like I mentioned before....This could or probably will bring a new rule change.


I hate the home plate rule and taking out the 2b/ss is part of the game. One injury in an awkward position and it's a rule change today....All about money. I was a catcher BTW and got knocked on my ass, yes it hurts but I still say.....That's my plate and if I'm getting the ball you better bowl me over to get it.

Utah-the umpires fucked up from the jump. they made the wrong call, review made the wrong call and as a result, we have a SS with a busted leg and of course the media is going to be talking about this story.

IMO, the act of taking out a 2b or SS needs to be taken out of the game. does MLB need another Posey incident at 2b? i don't think so.]
slide directly into the bag and if the runner is unable, the runner should be out.
i can see something serious happening soon over at 1st base. how often do we see the runner running hard from home to first, only to not be running in between the lines and making contact with the defender at 1st.
years ago Brian Roberts tore his arm on a similar play. yet when this happens the runner and 1st base coach argue they were running in the running lane. WRONG!

I'm not sure how I feel about the whole situation yet. I've been too busy to sit down and analyze the game as much as I would like to personally lately.

I will say this. I hope they uphold the suspension on Utley. There are pretty strong odds if the ump would have gotten the call right LAD would be down 2 games. For anyone that states losing Chase dampers LA's ability to win the series I think it's only fair. The Mets got screwed hard in every way, shape, and form. Like I stated earlier, for that moment the Dodgers were the Lakers and the Mets were the Kings in 2003.

I gotta say though this postseason is pretty awesome, and again. Who the fuck are the Rangers and how have they brought Toronto to the brink of extinction?

[Facedown]

IMO, that holds a lot of weight in the legacy of a player.

And that's why your opinion carries no weight but it does add to the legacy of your stupidity.

M13.....

there you go again. on that soapbox. trying to make a point.

there is a huge difference between a great player and a champion.
do not blame me that Ted Williams and Ernie Banks and Mattingly were not good enough players to get that WS ring. maybe they were great but not great enough. maybe neither of them could hit so well in late Sept or any number of reasons.

there are winners and there are losers.
currently, Kershaw is a loser. until he wins a ring, he would probably trade all his individual awards for a WS ring.

before you ask the question(again), yes i do feel like the 2015 Yankee season was a failure(again) because this team did not win another WS title. the goal for that team every season is to win a WS. anything short of that is a failure.
now maybe some teams in MLB or other sports feel that attitude is extreme but i happen to agree with the philosophy.

So, except for a few players, the Yankees roster is full of losers?

[UtahRatt]

You talking about the pic killeverything posted? That's Ty Cobb.

I knew that, I knew that a dozen times.

I'm not sure how I feel about the whole situation yet. I've been too busy to sit down and analyze the game as much as I would like to personally lately.

I will say this. I hope they uphold the suspension on Utley. There are pretty strong odds if the ump would have gotten the call right LAD would be down 2 games. For anyone that states losing Chase dampers LA's ability to win the series I think it's only fair. The Mets got screwed hard in every way, shape, and form. Like I stated earlier, for that moment the Dodgers were the Lakers and the Mets were the Kings in 2003.

I'm against it for many reasons. If he didn't do anything out of the rule book then there's no argument. If he did, not only are the ref's responsible the replay as well should he held up and punched in the face.

I'm not a Chase fan, didn't know why we traded for him but I said I've seen him take out at least 4+ double plays in the last month+, this one at least Utley's hand was going to land on the bag if he didn't collide.

The issue I have is it's all fun and games until someone get's hurt. if Tejada walks it off there isn't news about it. Tejada wasn't going to turn the DP with the delayed flip and having his back turned to first. The game was tied at that point and it wouldn't have changed much.

If the UMP's got it wrong this is where they need to start taking some responsibility, they suck and get away with more then the players. I'd like to see the shift and pressure put on the UMP's for this call.

The last Utley take out, he was so far out of the base line he probably couldn't have even touched the bag but no one was hurt, he broke up the play and there wasn't one word about it in the news.

So out of the thousand take out plays, once someone gets hurt it's blown up, rules are changed, players are suspended while the REF'S were the ones who are in control and let the plays stand........