Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[killeverything]

Former PCL player ( and Boston Red Sox for two games ) Neil "Mr. San Francisco" Sheridan passed away at 93 years of age. Said to have hit the longest HR in history at the time in 1953 while playing for the Sacramento Solomons @ 613.8 feet. Mr. Sheridan in his brief time in Boston was talking with Ted Williams when Joe Dimaggio came up and asked if he'd like to meet Babe Ruth. Fucking wow. What a life that guy had.

[Machado]

Dodgers lose because they cannot cover 3rd base! That is awesome. Much better than how the Rangers lose the other night. 3 errors is not as bad as not covering 3rd base.
I liked how Howie was practically blaming Greinke for not covering the bag.
I also liked how all the Dodger infielders had their head down on the play.
Fundamentals. Focus. Concentration. All things that are lacking on that team.

I'll take a wild guess and say the Dodgers never once practiced this play in pre-season or during the reg. season or had a meeting about how to defend the play.

Shades of Johnny Damon in the 2009 WS vs Philly, when he swiped 3rd base because nobody was paying attention.

[Facedown]

Looking forward to a Cubs/Jays WS.
Then again, the most recent win for any of them is 22 years ago so any matchup would still be great.

[Machado]

You haven't played, you don't play...It's not a big deal but it's so obvious stop. You can't just "focus" on the fucking ball....You keep your eye on the ball while avoiding planting your feet and that's just for starters.....

You have communication with your teammates, paying attention to your surroundings, avoiding bases, walls, grass & dirt lines, bumping into your mates, where the balls is going to go next like attention to other runners when you're holding them on. You have to be ready to be called off the play, that's why it's a fucking RULE and that's why he dropped it. He was expecting the same play he's made a thousand times not prepared to hear a Runner yell out shit, because no one does that shit.
Recognize the voice on the field? Did you just seriously say that? I thought you said just "focus" on the ball now it's distinguishing voices of other players? It's simple, you're not expecting to hear an idiot runner scream shit in the Pro's or little league, that's why it's a fucking rule. It's interference.

This isn't Major League the movie. Professionals don't do that shit, but Aroid did. If anyone, from the Pro's to a city league player hears "I got it" it's going to disrupt them. If you've had adrenaline running through your veins let alone understand how it effects you'd know it. "You'd just focused on the ball" makes me laugh.

It's even a rule in drunk adult softball leagues but no one does that childish shit. I played a couple-ish seasons of adult baseball when I was young and no one did it because it's flat out embarrassing to you and the team.
When I started racking up the injuries in football and MTBing in the off season I dropped into playing in drunk softball leagues and if anyone did that shit their own team would treat the player like a fucking douche bag.

And were not even talking about Aroid slapping the ball out of the glove while running to first. It just shows how big of a bitch Aroid is. Plays like that are stuff spoiled toddlers do. Aroid is an arrogant, lying, cheating spoiled bitch who thinks the world revolves around his big head.
Taking Roids and lying about it, slapping the ball out of a glove, yelling when a fielder is going to make a catch equals a douche bag.

I think you hit the nail right on the head and Machado outed himself as someone who obviously never played organized baseball, might give him T-ball but even going back to little league what you said is correct, every coach I ever had from LL to HS would always talk about how important the communication is. I played every OF position and 3rd base and in practices Yeah you'd get a monster pop fly and whoever was in the best position had better damn well call the other guys off and fast, if not well that's how collisions and confusion happens, and I never heard childish shit like what Arod did even in LL, his face says it all in the interview when asked about that, He has that expression like "Yeah I'm lying, so what". Fuck him.

If you guys only knew how wrong you are about how much I played, the winnings team I was on, etc...

Fact is your coaches were not as good as mine. Your leagues were soft and I'm sure the competition was weak.

Go ahead and talk about ARod all you want. It does not change the fact that he did cheat, he took PED's, he served his time and is back in the game. If ARod was the only person to cheat in the game of MLB, I would listen to your case closer and give you more credit. Guess what? He was not the only person and there are players who still cheat today.
What disappoints me about baseball fans is they concentrate on 1 player:
1st it was Bonds, lately it was ARod.
SF was vilified for supporting Bonds all those years. Then the attention went to ARod. Who's the next player to get all that attention?
Instead of a player the attention should be going to guys like Bud Selig, Rob Manfred, the owners of MLB who all turned a blind eye to PED use in the 80's, 90's and 2000's.

[killeverything]

I was a WS MVP myself coached by John McGraw.

[dtmfs]

Fact is your coaches were not as good as mine. Your leagues were soft and I'm sure the competition was weak.

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Yeah, my coach is in the Iowa High school HOF for football, track n field, and baseball, dude totally sucked. You can spew all the shit You want the fact that you don't seem to understand the importance of fielders calling each other off to avoid numerous problems and You defend Arod's bush league sandlot move speaks volumes.

[Machado]

Fact is your coaches were not as good as mine. Your leagues were soft and I'm sure the competition was weak.

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Yeah, my coach is in the Iowa High school HOF for football, track n field, and baseball, dude totally sucked. You can spew all the shit You want the fact that you don't seem to understand the importance of fielders calling each other off to avoid numerous problems and You defend Arod's bush league sandlot move speaks volumes.

I played infield my entire life. Who do you think you are talking to? If one of us had dropped that pop up, we would not have been whining that the baserunner "shouted" before the ball came down.
We would have been all over the infielder for not concentrating enough to catch the ball. Then our coach would have said the very same.
Do you understand the difference there chico?

I don't know where you played or when you played and I really don't care. You have an experience and I have my own. They obviously differ and so be it.
So while you fail to catch the ball and want to blame the runner, I will catch the ball and walk off the field knowing that "shouting" was not enough to take me out of the game.

[dtmfs]

I played infield my entire life. Who do you think you are talking to? If one of us had dropped that pop up, we would not have been whining that the baserunner "shouted" before the ball came down.
We would have been all over the infielder for not concentrating enough to catch the ball. Then our coach would have said the very same.
Do you understand the difference there chico?

I don't know where you played or when you played and I really don't care. You have an experience and I have my own. They obviously differ and so be it.
So while you fail to catch the ball and want to blame the runner, I will catch the ball and walk off the field knowing that "shouting" was not enough to take me out of the game.

entire life = T-ball, Who was this coach that is supposedly better than a guy who's in the HOF for 3 different sports, and If He was any kind of coach How come You're not smart enough to buy a fucking plunger?

And no, I would've done exactly as the 3B and SS for Toronto did which was to call out a fucking All star for his bush league move, but as I said before I never encountered that level of immaturity not from a little leaguer through HS, funny how all those players had more maturity and respected the game more than your spray tanned boy. And I love how You continue to prove gritts suspicion right, no one knows how they'd react in that situation because they're not expecting it not even at MLB level, a fucking Major leaguer was tricked by the tactic but the Great Machado of course would never fall for such ludicrous antics because the great digging for gold Machado is alway's focused in a Miyagi like Zone, GTFO! You got owned by a fucking toilet for fuck sake.

[WolfgangVonPage]

That leads to an interesting dilemma. The MFY needs SP as does Boston, LAAAA, SF and Detroit. With Greinke's personal "needs" his options are limited since he can't pitch anywhere. Plus he's probably the front-runner for the NL Cy Young with Kershaw and Arrieta closely behing him. His price will be astronomical.

Kill,, I don't follow MLB as close as you guys, what do you mean by needs?

And I am not quoting the whole fucking thing.

[UtahRatt]

I was a WS MVP myself coached by John McGraw.

Not to mention I personally had all the Tom Emanski's instructional videos and was endorsed by Fred McGriff himself! I don't know how Machado comes off like a know it all when he sounds like a couch potato.

Each word it's another shovel of dirt.

[UtahRatt]

Dodgers lose because they cannot cover 3rd base! That is awesome. Much better than how the Rangers lose the other night. 3 errors is not as bad as not covering 3rd base.
I liked how Howie was practically blaming Greinke for not covering the bag.
I also liked how all the Dodger infielders had their head down on the play.
Fundamentals. Focus. Concentration. All things that are lacking on that team.

I'll take a wild guess and say the Dodgers never once practiced this play in pre-season or during the reg. season or had a meeting about how to defend the play.

Shades of Johnny Damon in the 2009 WS vs Philly, when he swiped 3rd base because nobody was paying attention.

Any coach with half a brain who would call a shift would take a walk to the mound and get everyone on the same page. BECAUSE....It was one of the arguments with Mattingly going into the playoffs he went with starting all his fucking rookies.

SS - Seager should have made the run but he's only been in the Pro's like 2 months? Greinke really should have but being the pitcher his main job is to focus on the hitter 1st and make the pitch.

How do you score that a RUN when it was an error? Either way that RUN was on Mattingly. If you call the fucking shift, get your Rookie and everyone on the same page.

[killeverything]

That leads to an interesting dilemma. The MFY needs SP as does Boston, LAAAA, SF and Detroit. With Greinke's personal "needs" his options are limited since he can't pitch anywhere. Plus he's probably the front-runner for the NL Cy Young with Kershaw and Arrieta closely behing him. His price will be astronomical.

Kill,, I don't follow MLB as close as you guys, what do you mean by needs?

And I am not quoting the whole fucking thing.

Greinke has a severe anxiety disorder. I'm recalling this from memory so it might not be 100% accurate on the details, but it's generally correct.

He's had a no trade clause since he came into the league against both Boston and NY. I also believe he came in later because of dealing with it and not being able play on that stage yet. It's pretty serious. To the point where no matter how good the guy is a lot of teams couldn't offer him the security he needs, even if the money is there.

His illness(?) might be less sever though playing in a market like LA now.

[johnk5150]

Why do radio and tv hosts let their guests get away with this?

"Mets Cubs. Who wins?"

"I like the Mets, but the Cubs could win this thing."

How is it they're allowed to say something that lets them be right no matter what happens.

[UtahRatt]

I hope the Mets spank the Cub's but I think the Cub's could also win.

[johnk5150]

Kill wrote....

Lester vs. Harvey for game 1. I know Arrieta has been unhittable but I would give Lester the ball in game one myself. His postseason resume speaks for itself

Lesters #s v the Mets isn't great.

[Leppardmania]

As a Cubs fan, Lester's inability to throw to 1st scares the living crap out of me......it could cost us a ballgame in this round or the WS, if they get there.

[UtahRatt]

Kill wrote....

Lester vs. Harvey for game 1. I know Arrieta has been unhittable but I would give Lester the ball in game one myself. His postseason resume speaks for itself

Letters #s v the Mets isn't great.

It's the right call. First off......

Keep in mind Lester got off too a bad start.....What was his home and away records vs NYM? What was Lester's numbers after the break and down the stretch vs the Met's? Most important, Lester is a post season veteran with good stats.

It's the Met's game plan and the Cub's counter offer. You want Arrieta vs DeGrom The Met's ace with Harvey having issues.

It's about the Met's match ups and ALL about Harvey's numbers at home.
The Met's don't want to play Harvey on the road. Not sure what his numbers were VS the Cubs at home or on the road but everything is out the window now.
I doubt Harvey pitches another game on the road this season.....Unless it's do or die and even then I doubt it, they're riding on his home record while working around DA PITCH COUNT.

If you watched the game.....
The Dodgers jumped on Harvey early and Harvey's lucky he got the win let alone it wasn't a BLOW OUT, LAD should have put his lights out. The CUBS would have destroyed Harvey in game 3 of the NLDS.....Another misleading stat, Harvey get's the win and pitched like shit. Harvey 5IP 7H 3R 2ER 2BB 7SO.

So I like the Cub's sending in the vet Lester vs Harvey. It's a good call and you can bet Harvey wont go past 6 innings. If they get to the Pen on Harvey, they to the Pen with Arrieta it's going to be a short series.

After seeing the Met's staff, their pen and rotation isn't as good as I pictured, if they don't pitch better they'll get hammered especially in Wrigley.

The match ups you want are.
Lester vs Harvey
Arrieta vs DeGrom

Advantage CUBS.

[Facedown]

As a Cubs fan, Lester's inability to throw to 1st scares the living crap out of me......it could cost us a ballgame in this round or the WS, if they get there.

It was never mentioned much until he went to the Cubs.
The rings in 07 and 13 should set your mind at ease a little bit.

[WolfgangVonPage]

That leads to an interesting dilemma. The MFY needs SP as does Boston, LAAAA, SF and Detroit. With Greinke's personal "needs" his options are limited since he can't pitch anywhere. Plus he's probably the front-runner for the NL Cy Young with Kershaw and Arrieta closely behing him. His price will be astronomical.

Kill,, I don't follow MLB as close as you guys, what do you mean by needs?

And I am not quoting the whole fucking thing.

Greinke has a severe anxiety disorder. I'm recalling this from memory so it might not be 100% accurate on the details, but it's generally correct.

He's had a no trade clause since he came into the league against both Boston and NY. I also believe he came in later because of dealing with it and not being able play on that stage yet. It's pretty serious. To the point where no matter how good the guy is a lot of teams couldn't offer him the security he needs, even if the money is there.

His illness(?) might be less sever though playing in a market like LA now.

Wow, that is really interesting. Thanks for the info. I have anxiety as well, I can't imagine what it must be like for a superstar pitcher to have to fight that as well standing in front of booing fans.

[UtahRatt]

Cubs fans.....It's entertaining how superstitious, afraid, shitting bricks, freaking out and anxious they are like an unsure contestant on the price is right during the showcase bidding.....Questioning everything with little hope as if the city has bitten off all their nails waiting for a comet to hit and kill them all! OMFG WE'RE GOING TO DIE, NOOOOOO!

It's funny but I'm happy for their fans and team so far, have a little confidence.
This is why they gave Lester $155 Million Dollars! He has a lot of post season experience with good even great stats. Harvey has issues and is on this POST COUNT shit. It's totally fucking with the Met's rotation and with the way he pitched the other day it's messing with his head.

All the pressure should be on the METS. Even if by chance they lose game one, it's far from over. I honestly think the CUBS win games 1 & 2 and it's going to be a short series. 5 games, 6 if they're lucky.

This isn't the same METS team during the season not to mention the CUBS won a lot more games to begin with.
LAD had a shitty manager and was a blooper away from facing the CUBS.....The CUBS should go into this series with all the momentum and confidence after taking down the 100 Win Cardinals. While the METS had a fight with a messed up LAD team.

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Stat of the day, The Cardinals and 100 WINS:

The 1986 Mets was the last National League 100 WIN team to win the WS.

In the Wild Card era since 1995 21 teams have finished with at least 100 regular-season wins. The only two to win the World Series were the 1998 and 2009 Yankees.

Four 100 Win teams lost the World Series, the 1995 Indians, 1999 Braves, 2003 Yankees and  the 2004 Cardinals.

The 2001 Mariners, who set a major-league record with 116 wins couldn’t even capture the American League pennant, losing in the ALCS to a Yankees team that tallied 19 fewer regular-season wins.

Also included in this group of 100-win teams to not make the World Series are four (four!) Braves teams (1997, 1998, 2002, 2003).

The most damning evidence that reaching 100 wins doesn’t guarantee any reward in the postseason? Nearly half (10) of the 21 100-win teams since 1995 didn’t even advance past the Division Series round.

http://www.si.com/cauldron/2015/09/29/s ... b-playoffs

[UtahRatt]

That leads to an interesting dilemma. The MFY needs SP as does Boston, LAAAA, SF and Detroit. With Greinke's personal "needs" his options are limited since he can't pitch anywhere. Plus he's probably the front-runner for the NL Cy Young with Kershaw and Arrieta closely behing him. His price will be astronomical.

Kill,, I don't follow MLB as close as you guys, what do you mean by needs?

And I am not quoting the whole fucking thing.

Greinke has a severe anxiety disorder. I'm recalling this from memory so it might not be 100% accurate on the details, but it's generally correct.

He's had a no trade clause since he came into the league against both Boston and NY. I also believe he came in later because of dealing with it and not being able play on that stage yet. It's pretty serious. To the point where no matter how good the guy is a lot of teams couldn't offer him the security he needs, even if the money is there.

His illness(?) might be less sever though playing in a market like LA now.

He'll always have his disorder.
Greinke don't beat around the bush and 100% straight forward. Good thing he'd like to come back, everyone likes him and he's been happy in LA more so this year saying the new team didn't have the drama of the last few years. He likes the direction they're headed in and felt really comfortable this season. Even one of the owners was wearing a Greinke jersey and stood up cheering as he walked off after his last pitch and said he wants him back but that's up to the decision makers........32 year old Greinke's opting out and it's going to take $125 to $150+ million at 5 to 6 years.

Most things I've read said it wouldn't be a surprise if Greinke stayed with LAD but the flip side is LAD has been dumping all high priced long term contracts with players over 30. Sounds like it all rest's on the Dodgers shoulders.

There's a lot of options for him and names being tossed around as a replacement because Greinke is a couple years older then the soon to be top free agents who will cost more and that's where everything is hanging in the balance. I'll really hate to see him go, LAD should just pay the bill and not go after the Price or possible Cueto's. Don't fuck up the Kershaw and Greinke duo.

It bothers me because they've cleaned out a lot of bank that will start showing on the books this year and next and they clearly have the money. To go with someone else because of a couple years of age would suck ass.

LAD didn't go in all this year, they dumped huge contracts, ate money and said they're building. Dumping players like "Kemp" "Hanley Ramírez" "Juan Uribe" and others will bring down the team salary and bringing up the rookies they have the money, need and room to bring him back.

My gut tells me Greinke is gone but I'm kind of 50/50 at this point. I think we'll know sooner then later.

[UtahRatt]

Wow, that is really interesting. Thanks for the info. I have anxiety as well, I can't imagine what it must be like for a superstar pitcher to have to fight that as well standing in front of booing fans.

The only place Greinke felt conformable is on the mound. How odd is that. He can handle pitching in front of forty thousand people but can't handle the attention off the mound, media following him around or simple crowds at the store. First arriving in LA there was issues driving to games. He's quiet and kind of keeps to himself but opens up in the dugout. Since being treated he's turned it around. I've followed his story for a while, just about gave up baseball in the minors, the better he got the worse it got.


Social anxiety is a bitch, you probably know how that goes, I have major spells but it comes from vertigo. He couldn't handle crowds and people dating back to High School, felt weird and couldn't understand why he wasn't normal.
Med's changed his life since he went un-diagnosed for so long. He hated KC, it was there or with the Brew's, I think it was spring training when he couldn't take it and just took off. His wife said they'll be out shopping and sometimes he just has to leave. Anxiety attacks sucks, I get one every time I read Machado's posts on how to play baseball.


*Edit. I've been trying to find it, I thought it was Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel who did a special on Greinke I'd like to watch again.

I seen the one on Jim McMahon and noticed they didn't bring up how Jim brought a lot of it onto himself, the criminal acts, the money he's stolen, bankrupted people and the ones he's fucked over. His 6' 2" sister married my friend, I knew him and his family they were local. I feel for his injuries but Jim isn't the victim he makes himself out to be and has to take a lot of responsibility for the shit he's done.

[UtahRatt]

Price has the lawn mower out today. 1H through 6IP........Go Jay's.

[theglammerthebetter]

Price has the lawn mower out today. 1H through 6IP........Go Jay's.

Fucking Jinx man

[WolfgangVonPage]

Thanks for all the Greinke info, that is quite fascinating. The pitcher is the start of every play. To have what he has, and to be as effective as he can be, is really quite remarkable.

I don't even like leaving the house if I don't have to.

[UtahRatt]

Price has the lawn mower out today. 1H through 6IP........Go Jay's.

Fucking Jinx man

Holy fuck......Not only did I Jinx both teams after all that yacking I did I blew the call on the CUBS game. Sorry guys I just fucked up your teams. I still would have started Lester and played the match up. Lester and his 155 million got rocked. Oh well, it's only one game.

I was in and out during the Jay's game then changed the channel at the end of the 6th. Price was mowing them down, 1H through 6 innings, I change the channel and he implodes? What the fuck happened in the 6th? Meltdown!

What's up with Price, he's not making a good audition or incentive for a team like LAD to enter the Price free agency when he can't win a post season game, we already have Kershaw to cover that.

I would have placed money on the CUBS without question, I was on the fence with the Jay's vs Royals.......But I did mention and still think Lester was the right call vs Harvey so they could match up Arry vs DeGromy.

I didn't see anything of the CUBS game, not sure what went down, just caught the score. Oh well, game one.....It's still a long series if they need it to be.

[UtahRatt]

I don't even like leaving the house if I don't have to.

Sorry to hear that, I have bouts of vertigo that can give me an attack and I have to battle on my hand from that point on. Over the years I've found ways of dealing with it but anxiety attacks are a 500lb gorilla that can take over your life. Hope you can find something that helps or works. I can't do med's, that just makes it's worse or turns me into a zombie. That sucks, hope you can get over it somehow. Fight the good fight.

[WolfgangVonPage]

Thanks Utah, same to you.
I have an 8 year old son so a lot of the time I just tell myself to nut up and be a man as he is the main priority in my life and I am not going to short change him any opportunity's to play, swim, do ju jitsu etc.

On another note, WTF happened to the Jays. That righ field misplay was the start of the end.

[UtahRatt]

My best to you and your family, it's not just tough to deal with it's harder for those around you to understand. It's a nightmare.

What happened to the Jay's.....I was wondering what happened to the CUBS!

Notice no one posted....Just like I said if they start Lester vs Harvey and Arry vs DeGromy they should take the first two ga...........Well, wait. They'll be good to win games 3 and 4! They'll bounce back and take them easily.

[killeverything]

My best to you and your family, it's not just tough to deal with it's harder for those around you to understand. It's a nightmare.

What happened to the Jay's.....I was wondering what happened to the CUBS!

Notice no one posted....Just like I said if they start Lester vs Harvey and Arry vs DeGromy they should take the first two ga...........Well, wait. They'll be good to win games 3 and 4! They'll bounce back and take them easily.

I'm not sure about ChiC, but Strohman is the perfect guy to start game 3. If the Cubs go down easily I think it will only piss them off for next season. There's something scary brewing in Wrigleyville.

I'm still think Toronto will beat the Royals. Regular season records excluded, I think the Jays are just a better team. I wouldn't be surprised to see Strohman be the one to light the fire in them again.

SD tells Dusty Baker "thanks, but no thanks" about his interest in managing I don't want to say their a smart organization, but that's the least stupid thing they've done in a long while.....possibly ever.

Marlins have strong interest in Greinke.

Boras got insurance for Harvey's arm.

Mets highly unlikely to resign Murphy.

MFY fire hitting coach Jeff Pentland.