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UtahRatt wrote:Andy Van Slyke: EX Mariners, outfield stand around coach? Just set a bunch of bridges on fire. I gonna listen to the entire interview later, sounds like he had a lot to say.......Including candidly speaking about the Cardinals organization. Maybe he was hitting the bottle but he didn't hold too much back.

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Andy Van Slyke reveals that Clayton Kershaw wants Yasiel Puig traded.
Slyke said the "Highest Paid player" for the Dodgers went to the GM's office and asked for Yasiel Puig to be traded....When asked if it was Kershaw, Slyke said "I didn't say his name" :lol:


Four other big takeaways from Van Slyke’s chat with Cusumano:

1. Felix Hernandez is pitching with a partially torn elbow ligament.

“There’s a guy up in Seattle who has a torn elbow it’s about 25% torn and has been for the last couple of years — but he keeps pitching,” Van Slyke said while accurately discussing the fickle nature of pitcher injuries.
“Who’s that?” Cusumano asked.
“Hernandez…. Felix Hernandez,” Van Slyke answered. “Now, is it going to completely tear? Who knows? Here’s my point: How many pitchers don’t have some kind of tear in their elbow? Everybody does. The question is, is it going to snap or not? And nobody can predict that, Frank…. Every pitch he threw, we were like, ‘Is his elbow going to go on this pitch?'”


1. Van Slyke not impressed with Robinson Cano.
Cano was the single worst awful player he's ever seen. He does try sometimes. He couldn't drive miss daisy. Couldn't get a hit that mattered and the worst defensive 2nd baseman he's ever seen in 24 years in the big leagues. Robinson Cano lost the GM's job, the hitting coach then the coach and all the other coaches. His impact cost the team and peoples jobs.


3. Hitting coaches don’t do all that much

Van Slyke explained that Howard Johnson lost his job as the Mariners’ hitting coach midway through the 2015 season only because Edgar Martinez decided he wanted to return to baseball and Mariners brass did not want him coaching in another organization.

The team had a .670 OPS with Johnson as hitting coach in 2015 and a .758 mark after hiring Martinez. But according to Van Slyke, that doesn’t mean all that much. Asked how much impact a hitting coach can have, he said: Very, very little. A hitting coach is sort of like taking your kids to day care and then picking them up. They get the toys out and ready for everybody, then they pick up the toys and they close up shop. You might teach a kid how to build a block every now and then.

But you’re basically dealing with a bunch of 3-year-olds, spoiled athletes, who — unless they’re willing to listen, unless they’re willing to make themselves better — you might as well be speaking Russian to these guys, because they’re going to do what they’re going to do. I would say a hitting coach has very, very little to do with the success of a team offensively.

Here’s the thing about any hitting coach: A good hitting coach is a good hitting coach when he’s got good hitters to work with.


4. More psychology-based coaching is coming

Before Van Slyke signed off — surprised that his hour was up — he made this prediction:

You’re going to see something happen in the Major Leagues that happened about 10-15 years ago, with analytics and statistics. We’re going to get mind coaches at the Major League level. There’s a new wave of dealing with baseball players, that they’re going to start thinking they can make them better mentally. You watch, Frank. I’m calling it out right now. Every Major League team is going to have a psychiatrist of some kind, or some kind of mental coach that they think is going to change the game.

With that said.....Seattle just hired Andy McKay former Rockies mental skills coach as the M's director of player development.

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I read that. He's not impressed with Cano? Dude played hurt all season. Just had surgery. And he doesn't think he's good? Cracka please.
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Cano's contract was ridiculous and he sucked the first half but I didn't know about the injury either.
Cano may be a player but he isn't worth what they paid. I'd rather have Price, Cespedes or a number of other pitchers or players for that range of cash. That's like a young Griffey Jr. contract. I would have laughed at Cano's contract and let someone else eat it.


If and when Greinke goes to the Giants or Cubs I doubt I'll be into baseball next year. Like you said KILL, MLB don't have Cheerleaders and losing Greinke to the Giants or Cubs will push me over the edge. Plus I couldn't stand another season of every head line and news story about pushing the CUBS out the asshole of the WS like a TacoBell Burrito.
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UtahRatt wrote:Cano's contract was ridiculous and he sucked the first half but I didn't know about the injury either.
Cano may be a player but he isn't worth what they paid. I'd rather have Price, Cespedes or a number of other pitchers or players for that range of cash. That's like a young Griffey Jr. contract. I would have laughed at Cano's contract and let someone else eat it.


If and when Greinke goes to the Giants or Cubs I doubt I'll be into baseball next year. Like you said KILL, MLB don't have Cheerleaders and losing Greinke to the Giants or Cubs will push me over the edge. Plus I couldn't stand another season of every head line and news story about pushing the CUBS out the asshole of the WS like a TacoBell Burrito.
They certainly overpaid, but with the failure of Z's GMing and an angry fanbase filled with the 1 & 2s high off the Roidhawk's recent SB victory. I understand it.

I think Cano was a good signing for the team. Trust me Seattle can afford it. They're owned by Nintendo.

Quit watching baseball if Greinke leaves? Really. Fuck all that jazz....razamatazz. I stuck with it when Clark went to Texas, Rajah went to Toronto and NYY, Jr., ( which I kinda understand ) went to Cincy. You can't get too loyal to players with your team. It's an open market. Yeah, I hate when my heroes leave too, but these guys were fucked over by the league for so long ( the 1919 ChiSox say hi ) good for them.

Unless they go to NYY. Fuck them then. :lol:
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Dave Roberts to manage Dodgers.......Any thoughts? YAWN! A bench coaching under Bud Black who stopped playing in 08?
No experience, younger then me. Sounds like more of a pawn with all the calls coming from up stairs. I'd preferred Gabe Kapler at this point. I have a hard time seeing Robert's rallying the troops and being a leader.

Ya I'm high on Greinke, if he goes to a division rival or a hated team it will be painful but more so show me the direction they're going in. After reading the interview with the owners and their plan, I'm not buying the big picture.
The two or three year 300m spree was meant to be competitive for a couple years just long enough so they could build the farm up so they could cut all the spending and as they say "sustain" the club at a lower payroll along with the higher ticket price.

So basically it's not about Rings, they want their money back and investment to grow.

I'm pissed because they wasted 300m on all the wrong players when they could have pulled in a much better team....Like it wasn't a well thought out spending spree. Now the farm looks good but that's not going to do much if they let Greinke walk and no more big contracts.

I have my doubts they'll sign any of the top ace's. But I bet they'll be in talks with everyone to keep the fans interested. Reading between the lines tells me their best shots at the WS were wasted over the last several years and Mattingly blew a lot of it.

So it's hard to be excited about the spring, I'm sure the opening day roster will have the Rook's backed with some bargain priced pitchers.
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UtahRatt wrote:Dave Roberts to manage Dodgers.......Any thoughts? YAWN! A bench coaching under Bud Black who stopped playing in 08?
No experience, younger then me. Sounds like more of a pawn with all the calls coming from up stairs. I'd preferred Gabe Kapler at this point. I have a hard time seeing Robert's rallying the troops and being a leader.

Ya I'm high on Greinke, if he goes to a division rival or a hated team it will be painful but more so show me the direction they're going in. After reading the interview with the owners and their plan, I'm not buying the big picture.
The two or three year 300m spree was meant to be competitive for a couple years just long enough so they could build the farm up so they could cut all the spending and as they say "sustain" the club at a lower payroll along with the higher ticket price.

So basically it's not about Rings, they want their money back and investment to grow.

I'm pissed because they wasted 300m on all the wrong players when they could have pulled in a much better team....Like it wasn't a well thought out spending spree. Now the farm looks good but that's not going to do much if they let Greinke walk and no more big contracts.

I have my doubts they'll sign any of the top ace's. But I bet they'll be in talks with everyone to keep the fans interested. Reading between the lines tells me their best shots at the WS were wasted over the last several years and Mattingly blew a lot of it.

So it's hard to be excited about the spring, I'm sure the opening day roster will have the Rook's backed with some bargain priced pitchers.
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UtahRatt wrote:Dave Roberts to manage Dodgers.......Any thoughts? YAWN! A bench coaching under Bud Black who stopped playing in 08?
No experience, younger then me. Sounds like more of a pawn with all the calls coming from up stairs. I'd preferred Gabe Kapler at this point. I have a hard time seeing Robert's rallying the troops and being a leader.

Ya I'm high on Greinke, if he goes to a division rival or a hated team it will be painful but more so show me the direction they're going in. After reading the interview with the owners and their plan, I'm not buying the big picture.
The two or three year 300m spree was meant to be competitive for a couple years just long enough so they could build the farm up so they could cut all the spending and as they say "sustain" the club at a lower payroll along with the higher ticket price.

So basically it's not about Rings, they want their money back and investment to grow.

I'm pissed because they wasted 300m on all the wrong players when they could have pulled in a much better team....Like it wasn't a well thought out spending spree. Now the farm looks good but that's not going to do much if they let Greinke walk and no more big contracts.

I have my doubts they'll sign any of the top ace's. But I bet they'll be in talks with everyone to keep the fans interested. Reading between the lines tells me their best shots at the WS were wasted over the last several years and Mattingly blew a lot of it.

So it's hard to be excited about the spring, I'm sure the opening day roster will have the Rook's backed with some bargain priced pitchers.
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I was hoping for some experience and don't know anything about Roberts demeanor. I'm sure he'll be able to relate with this generation of players but I hope he's not just a YES MAN. I hope he's intelligent and can drive this team with a back bone without being pushed around from up top.
I don't know what Robert's could have taken from Bud Black to begin with.....My first wish was for Scioscia but every one said right out of the gate that Mike wouldn't be able to work with this new LAD brass...Telling me the coaching will be called down from upstairs.

I remember Roberts as a player, that's about it.

Talks as of the 21st....LAD is pushing for Zimmerman..........Whatever......Talks, talks, talks, this shit's got me up tight. For all I know they could come out blazing and start adding good pieces to the puzzle but all LAD likes to do is be in "TALKS" when any name pops up.
I should just sleep Baseball off till Hockey Season is over and see what's left on the Dodgers Roster. I miss the day's of buying shirts and jersey's of your favorite players. Nowadays, it's a 3 year old overly expensive shirt with the player on your rivals team. Time to burn that shit.

Does anyone even buy them? I bet Machado has an Aroid jersey. I haven't bout one in decades. I've had them bought for me, still have Jason Varitek Jersey I was going to put under my truck in the garage.


More rumors have come out...Greinke hates Puig was well...In fact it's said everyone hates him. When LAD got rid of the Hanley's, Kemp's and Uribe....Puig's had a target on his head the size of Bryce Harper's ego. Some rumors, he's being used at trade bate for pitching from teams who need OF players.


Puig is a bitch, didn't like him after a month knowing he was trouble BUT......I have a feeling he will turn into a stud after he matures because of the shit he's done in LA. So basically, we'll end up giving away a good player. After breaking the horse we'll give him away. He's a douche for the bench killing he's done.
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UtahRatt wrote:Dave Roberts to manage Dodgers.......Any thoughts? YAWN! A bench coaching under Bud Black who stopped playing in 08?
No experience, younger then me. Sounds like more of a pawn with all the calls coming from up stairs. I'd preferred Gabe Kapler at this point. I have a hard time seeing Robert's rallying the troops and being a leader.

Ya I'm high on Greinke, if he goes to a division rival or a hated team it will be painful but more so show me the direction they're going in. After reading the interview with the owners and their plan, I'm not buying the big picture.
The two or three year 300m spree was meant to be competitive for a couple years just long enough so they could build the farm up so they could cut all the spending and as they say "sustain" the club at a lower payroll along with the higher ticket price.

So basically it's not about Rings, they want their money back and investment to grow.

I'm pissed because they wasted 300m on all the wrong players when they could have pulled in a much better team....Like it wasn't a well thought out spending spree. Now the farm looks good but that's not going to do much if they let Greinke walk and no more big contracts.

I have my doubts they'll sign any of the top ace's. But I bet they'll be in talks with everyone to keep the fans interested. Reading between the lines tells me their best shots at the WS were wasted over the last several years and Mattingly blew a lot of it.

So it's hard to be excited about the spring, I'm sure the opening day roster will have the Rook's backed with some bargain priced pitchers.
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The one who stole on the greatest human of all time? That Dave Roberts?

You know exactly who he is. He just got the job because he's black. Goddamn you are dumb.
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Don't be stupid your moron. Of course I remember Dave Roberts.
Just another average MLB player who's claim to fame was a SB. Unlike many of my Yankee stars who have a long resume of success and will eventually make the HOF.
Listen, maybe the Dodgers got lucky and found the next great manager. Odds are they did not & with Puig on the roster, this team is not going anywhere in the near future.
Gone are the days when a MLB Manager pays his dues in the minors for X amount of years. Now the trend is to hire a former player with zero experience and "expect" him to turn a franchise around.
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UtahRatt wrote:I was hoping for some experience and don't know anything about Roberts demeanor. I'm sure he'll be able to relate with this generation of players but I hope he's not just a YES MAN. I hope he's intelligent and can drive this team with a back bone without being pushed around from up top.
I don't know what Robert's could have taken from Bud Black to begin with.....My first wish was for Scioscia but every one said right out of the gate that Mike wouldn't be able to work with this new LAD brass...Telling me the coaching will be called down from upstairs.

I remember Roberts as a player, that's about it.

Talks as of the 21st....LAD is pushing for Zimmerman..........Whatever......Talks, talks, talks, this shit's got me up tight. For all I know they could come out blazing and start adding good pieces to the puzzle but all LAD likes to do is be in "TALKS" when any name pops up.
I should just sleep Baseball off till Hockey Season is over and see what's left on the Dodgers Roster. I miss the day's of buying shirts and jersey's of your favorite players. Nowadays, it's a 3 year old overly expensive shirt with the player on your rivals team. Time to burn that shit.

Does anyone even buy them? I bet Machado has an Aroid jersey. I haven't bout one in decades. I've had them bought for me, still have Jason Varitek Jersey I was going to put under my truck in the garage.


More rumors have come out...Greinke hates Puig was well...In fact it's said everyone hates him. When LAD got rid of the Hanley's, Kemp's and Uribe....Puig's had a target on his head the size of Bryce Harper's ego. Some rumors, he's being used at trade bate for pitching from teams who need OF players.


Puig is a bitch, didn't like him after a month knowing he was trouble BUT......I have a feeling he will turn into a stud after he matures because of the shit he's done in LA. So basically, we'll end up giving away a good player. After breaking the horse we'll give him away. He's a douche for the bench killing he's done.
Roberts is/was an incredibly liked player. Plus where Black excelled was his pitching knowledge. It sucks he didn't coach a team that let him showcase it though. Maybe Roberts picked up some knowledge about bullpen usage, etc. Really damn near anyone not named Dusty Baker is going to be better than Donnie "I don't know jack shit about" Baseball.

I haven't bought a jersey or anything in a long time. I almost bought ( or at least considered ) a Bumgarner the other day. Actually the last one I bought was a Griffey Jr. shirt at his Seattle HOF induction, because it's fucking Griffey, mang.

I don't see Greinke leaving LA actually. He's comfortable there. Unless they just refuse to bid on him, he stays. As much as I hate the team down 5 south, getting Friedman is scary. That dude is going to build up their farm like Epstein and Hoyer have done in Chicago.
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I have to stop reading all the rumors and story's because most words are either blown up or written out of context. The latest was the Giants are making a huge push for Greinke and it's a fact the Dodgers brass are getting away from long term contracts for old players then add that to rumors of Zimmer talks and it all spells shit.
I honestly think the Giant's could out bid LAD, at 32 LAD thinks they could go after someone like Zimmer and or also pick up a Wei-Yen Chen as a better bargain and someone who'd drop .50ERA pitching in Chavez Ravine. Then I read Chen's agent wants big money as well.....That's the problem LAD, Boston, the Cubs and Giants are in talks with everyone. Any name that comes up they're usually attached to it along with the writers version of why.

Greinke is about money, it's why he opted out of good money for this last shot contract to get all he can. I believe it's more then possible he could go to the Giants. I almost think he will with everything I've read.

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I did say Hanley should or would end up playing 1st in Boston the day he was traded. I don't know if he played any games this season at first base but I remember us talking about him and panda. I figured Hanley would end up at first then take over DH when papi johns eventually retires.


Fitter Hanley Ramirez to play in Dominican Winter League
The Red Sox outfielder turned first baseman seems to be taking his preparation seriously this offseason.
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Former Twins legend Rod Carew in need of a heart transplant
The man is 70 yrs of age and has already suffered a massive heart attack.


I could watch him swing the bat all day long. Such a sweet swing that produced hits left and right.

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SF is going to make a big push for THE big FA every year. They usually don't though, with the exception being Jon Lester. It's what they say to keep the fanbase in check. I think they sign one of the FA starting pitchers, but I don't think that's Price, Greinke, and the like.

Ortiz is retiring after 2016 so Fat Panda will be the DH then. Hanley is stuck on first. I still don't understand Cherington's ( Luchhino's? ) rationale on signing both of them. The fanbase will eat them alive, they are good with a bat...that's about it now and both have a pretty unpopular clubhouse rep. Without Papi they're going to be miserable.

Tim Lincecum plans to pitch in January showcase. Says he's excited to show scouts his surgically repaired hip. Hip surgeries for pitchers are rare to recover from but it would be cool if he did.

Mariners sign Chris Iannetta to 1 year deal.

Lloyd McClendon hired by Detroit as AAA manager of Toledo Mud Hens.

Rod Carew in need of transplant after heart attack.

Japenese star RHP Kenta Maeda requests posting to play in mlb.
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Oakland gets Jed Lowrie back from Houston for reliever ( actually he's not a reliever yet, but come on ) Brandon McCurry. That one should be in the A's favor as Lowrie's production declined because of an injury and any reliever not named Mariano is just a reliever.

Oakland has had several complete roster turnovers the past few years and still averaged 86.9 wins. That's pretty impressive when you think about the other factors surrounding them. They should write a book about it.

White Sox sign Alex Avila to one year deal.

Pirates get Allen Webster from the D'backs for cash.

Here's some more on the Dave Roberts signing.

"You hire Dave Roberts because a team of underachievers needs to be prodded by an overachiever, a team of chill needs a manager whose career could never withstand even one day of complacency. You hire Dave Roberts because, if his popular Dodgers tenure is any indication, his ego wouldn't be too big to embrace new ideas, full front-office communication, and holdover pitching coach Rick Honeycutt."

"To have an opportunity the work for the best franchise in sports would be a huge honor," he (Roberts) said. "An opportunity to work with some of the brightest minds in all of baseball is something that really intrigues me.''

So the Dodgers get a guy who will instantly command respect in the dugout, and who understands that it isn't all about him and that he's part of the bigger picture. Not to mention, Boston success aside, the man bleeds Dodger blue. I couldn't be happier for the man.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/l ... olumn.html

That sounds like a good hire to me. The guy seems to be loved everywhere.
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Red Sox are going to be the highest bidders on Price and Greinke and are hell bent on signing one or both of them.
Great, a pitcher that can't win in the postseason and one that pees his pants pitching in a place like Boston.
While your at it, why not sign Panda and Hanl.....oh, wait.
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Red Sox are going to be the highest bidders on Price and Greinke and are hell bent on signing one or both of them.
Great, a pitcher that can't win in the postseason and one that pees his pants pitching in a place like Boston.
While your at it, why not sign Panda and Hanl.....oh, wait.
Greinke ain't happening. Boston was numero uno on his no trade list. Price maybe, but they'll have a lot of competitors. He wants to win. If NYY or LAD gets involved they will be out bid.

I wouldn't worry about it.
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killeverything wrote:SF is going to make a big push for THE big FA every year. They usually don't though, with the exception being Jon Lester. It's what they say to keep the fanbase in check.
I swear I fall for that shit all the time but I'm starting to blow it off more and more. Baiting the fucking hook. It pisses me off. It gets me hyped and it's a shit PR move when NOTHING falls through. I respected when LAD said they wasn't going to go all in at the break for a player like Price or Cooties. At least I knew what to expect. I was shocked they said it.

Thanks for the post on Roberts, everything I've read say's he's liked and respected from his peers with a lot of players standing up for him. It helps me cool off a bit but I don't jive with the lack of experience in the driver seat. After growing up and spending most of my life watching Lasorda it's been hard watching LAD trying to replace him while falling short and giving the job to Yankee cast offs.
I'm happy for Honeycutt. I think he does a good job with the staff on top of liking the guy but this owners group has cleaned fucking house all the way down to the concession stands to the parking lot and that's being serious. Total rebuild from the ground up.

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Inside Baseball: Cash-Tight Dodgers Still Chasing Stars......

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/trac ... sing-stars

"A Los Angeles Dodgers official was overheard to say at the recent owners meeting in Dallas that they'd like to move their payroll to $200 million from a record $300 million, and co-owner Todd Boehly told the Los Angeles Times that they'd like to get it "much closer to $200 million" than $300 million."

I've read this many time over and over, it's fact not a rumor. Kind of uptight over this stupid group. Time will tell.
No more deep pockets but no fucking wounder. What bunch of idiots would purchase a team then spend 300m on that fucking group of misfits they put on the field, over paying for old players half who ended up on the IR.......That's what pissed me off now and then. It's also why I don't have a lot of faith of them re-signing or signing some of these pitchers and players the Dodgers "are in talks with" and need in order to make a push over the next few seasons.


After reading their big plan in that recent story I thought they was a group of idiots. Sure they got the farm back but at what cost....Just too blow 300m on a bunch of flunkies so they could end up missing the WS "competing as they said" and today not being able to sign or re-sign they're immediate future.....Fucking morons. I went on record many times during their 2 year record breaking payroll saying they were blindly spending money. And they fucking did.
Dumb ass holes. Now it's time to pay in the form of a sub-par roster instead of having a farm and a contender.


Fuck it. The Rangers are kicking ass, time to fuck baseball, watch hockey and see where the Dodgers are a few months into the season then see if I give a fuck.

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Then.......
Read the fish are looking to deal Dee to get some pitching.....Another favorite player LAD admittedly regrets letting go now the Fish are putting him on a hook? Fuckng morons....Good thing I didn't buy his Jersey, I'd be looking at 3 different Jersey's from 3 different teams in three years.
What was LAD's words "we didn't expect Dee to continue to improve like he did" As a fan I can't see how the fuck they didn't notice his improvement?

Seriously...........
I watched him grow from a young scrawny struggling player to an allstar in like a season and a half. Then he comes to form out of nowhere, makes the allstar team and LAD dumps Dee in that 6 player trade....Leaving a hole at 2B and in the trade spends more $ for a bunch of shit players that didn't pan out, weakened the team and one player left on the Farm with question marks......Again.....Fucking morons......It's tough being a fan sometimes.

Good Luck Dee, I hope you do get out of Florida and end up on a deserving team that don't have their head up their ass.


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killeverything wrote:SF is going to make a big push for THE big FA every year. They usually don't though, with the exception being Jon Lester. It's what they say to keep the fanbase in check.
I swear I fall for that shit all the time but I'm starting to blow it off more and more. Baiting the fucking hook. It pisses me off. It gets me hyped and it's a shit PR move when NOTHING falls through. I respected when LAD said they wasn't going to go all in at the break for a player like Price or Cooties. At least I knew what to expect. I was shocked they said it.

Thanks for the post on Roberts, everything I've read say's he's liked and respected from his peers with a lot of players standing up for him. It helps me cool off a bit but I don't jive with the lack of experience in the driver seat. After growing up and spending most of my life watching Lasorda it's been hard watching LAD trying to replace him while falling short and giving the job to Yankee cast offs.
I'm happy for Honeycutt. I think he does a good job with the staff on top of liking the guy but this owners group has cleaned fucking house all the way down to the concession stands to the parking lot and that's being serious. Total rebuild from the ground up.

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Inside Baseball: Cash-Tight Dodgers Still Chasing Stars......

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/trac ... sing-stars

"A Los Angeles Dodgers official was overheard to say at the recent owners meeting in Dallas that they'd like to move their payroll to $200 million from a record $300 million, and co-owner Todd Boehly told the Los Angeles Times that they'd like to get it "much closer to $200 million" than $300 million."

I've read this many time over and over, it's fact not a rumor. Kind of uptight over this stupid group. Time will tell.
No more deep pockets but no fucking wounder. What bunch of idiots would purchase a team then spend 300m on that fucking group of misfits they put on the field, over paying for old players half who ended up on the IR.......That's what pissed me off now and then. It's also why I don't have a lot of faith of them re-signing or signing some of these pitchers and players the Dodgers "are in talks with" and need in order to make a push over the next few seasons.


After reading their big plan in that recent story I thought they was a group of idiots. Sure they got the farm back but at what cost....Just too blow 300m on a bunch of flunkies so they could end up missing the WS "competing as they said" and today not being able to sign or re-sign they're immediate future.....Fucking morons. I went on record many times during their 2 year record breaking payroll saying they were blindly spending money. And they fucking did.
Dumb ass holes. Now it's time to pay in the form of a sub-par roster instead of having a farm and a contender.


Fuck it. The Rangers are kicking ass, time to fuck baseball, watch hockey and see where the Dodgers are a few months into the season then see if I give a fuck.

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Then.......
Read the fish are looking to deal Dee to get some pitching.....Another favorite player LAD admittedly regrets letting go now the Fish are putting him on a hook? Fuckng morons....Good thing I didn't buy his Jersey, I'd be looking at 3 different Jersey's from 3 different teams in three years.
What was LAD's words "we didn't expect Dee to continue to improve like he did" As a fan I can't see how the fuck they didn't notice his improvement?

Seriously...........
I watched him grow from a young scrawny struggling player to an allstar in like a season and a half. Then he comes to form out of nowhere, makes the allstar team and LAD dumps Dee in that 6 player trade....Leaving a hole at 2B and in the trade spends more $ for a bunch of shit players that didn't pan out, weakened the team and one player left on the Farm with question marks......Again.....Fucking morons......It's tough being a fan sometimes.

Good Luck Dee, I hope you do get out of Florida and end up on a deserving team that don't have their head up their ass.


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Seattle is trying to acquire Ozuna in trade. He wants out of FL because he hates Loria. Fernandez won't sign an extension either.

The thing about LAD's FO is the guys they've got running it now are scary good at their jobs. They have a farm up there with Boston and CHC now. I look at them being a force for a while, while clearing out the last ownership's fuckups. The 300m was ridiculous, but they were able to build up their minors.

As for Greinke, I don't know but I would be surprised to see him leave. Same with Boston and Price. Price desires being comfortable first and foremost. The media coverage in Boston is a nightmare and he hates Ortiz. I don't see him going there.

Player jerseys suck. Fortunately my current faves are locked up ( except Timmy, but he's SF wherever he goes anyway ). I had to deal with seeing Griffey on the Reds ( Nope. Although I understood it ), Clark as a Ranger, Clemens as a Jay...then a MFY. Buy the oldschool ones if the guy you root for has only a 2 year or so deal.

Again dealing with front offices. Trade yours for the one in Seattle. It's leaking that everyone is pissed after drinking the Jack Z. Kool-Aid that things are the same, and his draftpicks except ONE haven't panned out. Tacoma looked tough for a minute though. Then it was realized Ackley isn't major league level or the coaching staff really is that bad...then you think about Ackley getting drafted ahead of Mike Trout. Again hate LA's ownership? Try Seattle's. They only care about making money off Safeco ( they do, that place is amazing ). I'd trade Lincoln for Friedman any day.

In fact I'd trade Lincoln for anyone and almost give any thing for Friedman, except Sabean or Evans. Even then it's a maybe.
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I lived in Seattle over two different spans and remember the feeling during the years of what they've done to the fans. The ups and downs, the ticket prices would go up while they'd lose a player. Man it was rough at times and even the great times sucked. With that team and the lack of World Series let alone pennant's! A little short on staff but the frustration of the monster roster falling short.
I've been to games in the dome and safeco. I hated losing Griffey with a fucking passion and wanted him to stay over Alex. Griffey was far more of a loved player and felt like it was a betrayal while his injury felt like Karma.
Then Aroid when his gigantic contract came up he left the team hollow. That team should have been unstoppable. Aroid, Griffey, Johnson, Edgar.

During the bad times I remember driving to work and the Radio DJ saying the old jokes....A man left a Mariners ticket on his dashboard, when he came back he noticed someone broke into his car and left two tickets.
Another DJ said the Owners should just build the new Stadium in Kent since they don't win the big one and the owners could line their pockets with property savings. Or the DJ saying WTF, the Sonics leaves and we keep the Mariners?

One maybe two pitchers from totally dominating an era is about all I can come up with. That or Piniella.
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That fanbase has it rough. The ownership group honestly does not give a fuck. If the had a good GM ( let's say Zduriencik wasn't retarded ) they could fill that stadium every game.

That's my point about LAD. Most fanbases would kill to have that FO. The Mariners have money being owned by Nintendo, so it's not financial. They just have a Pres./ownership board that is horrible. They got Dipotto because no one else wants to work for them.

Yeah, the Dodgers payroll and lack of pennants, etc. was ridiculous. They're in a very favorable spot going forward. It's not another 5-6 year rebuilding process. The Mariners' ( Zuduriencik ) rebuild was atrocious.
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It is a little easier for you to say that when between the Giants and Boston they've won most of the World Series over the last fucking decade.

Meanwhile in Dodger land I was banging chicks just out of High School the last time they won and now I'm cruising senior citizen complexes for Social Security ass. Sure it's good they've been competitive but they've been foolish about it lately.....300m payroll when over 100m of it wasn't even on the team or the field.....As a fan I'm allowed to be frustrated.

I feel for the M's. I like um and pull for them but what can be said about the brass that you haven't brought up already. The last time I was at Safeco on vacation there was plenty of empty seats and like you said they could easily fill if they'd pull their head's out of their ass.

I'm not sure if it's sad or awesome the Sounders can pull in almost 20,000 more soccer fans then Mariners fans in Seattle.
44,000+ to 27,000+ :shock:

Then again, The Sounders pull in more fans then the Yankees :lol:

But not LAD or the Giants...RAWR!
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Yasiel Puig being investigated for his role in a brawl in a Miami bar. That is one dude I would not want to be against.

JA Happ signs 3 year deal with Jays.
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killeverything wrote:Yasiel Puig being investigated for his role in a brawl in a Miami bar. That is one dude I would not want to be against.
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I'm sure Mattingly is very pleased with the news. Puig getting into trouble
only vindicates Mattingly.
Puig is out of control. A team will want him but that team will regret
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killeverything wrote:Yasiel Puig being investigated for his role in a brawl in a Miami bar. That is one dude I would not want to be against.
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I'm sure Mattingly is very pleased with the news. Puig getting into trouble
only vindicates Mattingly.
Puig is out of control. A team will want him but that team will regret
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Puig is out of control, but I'm not sure how that vindicates Mattingly. It's not like just because the guy is a jackwagon, Mattingly got smarter.
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killeverything wrote:
Machado wrote:
killeverything wrote:Yasiel Puig being investigated for his role in a brawl in a Miami bar. That is one dude I would not want to be against.
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I'm sure Mattingly is very pleased with the news. Puig getting into trouble
only vindicates Mattingly.
Puig is out of control. A team will want him but that team will regret
giving him a uniform.
Puig is out of control, but I'm not sure how that vindicates Mattingly. It's not like just because the guy is a jackwagon, Mattingly got smarter.
Mattingly is the one who benched him in the playoffs while machado was saying it was a stupid move.
But, it's already out that a lot of the calls came from up top, even down to the line up card. It was the Dodger brass that benched him, the whole team hates him.....The line to hate Puig didn't start with DON. You'd have to fight to stand in line to hate Puigy from the owners down to Kershaw.


This fucking sucks hard, I've hated Puig from almost day one even tho he was the main reason the Dodgers blew up and went on a record pace sparking them into the playoffs when he walked on the field for the first time.
What sucks is if this jackass could keep his shit together long enough LAD could trade him and get something in return but it looks like the Dodgers are just gonna have to release him and get nothing for a talented player who can produce at a reasonable price.


The shitty part is I bet he will mature someday and be a good player..........Just in another uniform and he'll be yet another Dodger player who produces for another team.

I wished there was a Dog House like Al Davis use to have. When a player acted up on the field no matter how good he was Davis would bench him and eat the money, make him look like shit rather then just cut and let a player go. I'd love to see LAD be able to put and leave Puig in the minors for the rest of his contract.

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There has to be a way teams can do something to control players like him, like being able to release him while another team can't pick him up till the contract runs out. In all sports, players are out of fucking control. Wished there was a way to spank these babies where it hurts the most....Money and shame.
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The Player's Union doesn't allow for that mind of shit, although that would be funny.

Zimmerman and Detroit have reached a deal. 5/110m

Red Sox shopping Hanley Ramirez. Good luck with that.
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Johnny Cueto rejected a 6/120m offer from the D'backs earlier this month.
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Chris Young signs multi-year deal with Boston.

Cueto seeking 140-160m contract.

Greinke is looking for 30m a year and his market's heating up.
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Greinke is looking for 30m a year and his market's heating up.
:lol:

Who is going to give this headcase all that money? He's not worth it. No pitcher in the game today is worth that price.
History has shown that giving out "high priced" contracts to SP's will backfire
within the lifetime of the contract.

Not very many teams are immune to that. Greinke, well I guess he's doing his job by asking for the world, but that does not mean any team will give him that money.
Who does he think he is? Don Drysdale?
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killeverything wrote:
Greinke is looking for 30m a year and his market's heating up.
:lol:

Who is going to give this headcase all that money? He's not worth it. No pitcher in the game today is worth that price.
History has shown that giving out "high priced" contracts to SP's will backfire
within the lifetime of the contract.

Not very many teams are immune to that. Greinke, well I guess he's doing his job by asking for the world, but that does not mean any team will give him that money.
Who does he think he is? Don Drysdale?

Exactly why I have more then doubts he'll be in LA next season. If he don't end up in LA or with the Giants in a pitchers stadium I bet his numbers go up. I picture him in Chicago with the wind going out watching his pitches go out.
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David Price has reached an agreement on a 7 year, $217 million deal with the Boston Red Sox
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Unless Price win 2 WS titles in Boston, the Red Sux certainly overpaid for that left arm of his.
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