The NFL Thread

[Crazy Levi]

The Beagles, good luck. They got spanked a month ago by the Steelers. The Beagles have a stingy D and I bet McCarron will toss a couple picks. It could be a good game if Cincy's D sets the tempo. If not the Steelers will run them over continuing the streak of loosing playoff games for the Beagles.

Steelers over Beagles

"Beagles" is the preferred "idiots fan nickname" for the EAGLES, not the Bengals.

Despite this mangling of fan smack, I'd like to point out the Bengals will indeed win this one, with Andy Dalton coming off the bench in an inspiring Willis Reed moment.

[Machado]

They should just ship the Chargers off to St. Louis after the Rams leave.

Is it possible for all 3 teams to have a future in LA? As in an immediate future? No chance any of those franchises return to their former towns now that each has announced a desire to move.

The city of Oakland released a statement basically saying the city wants to work with the team and the NFL, as long as building a stadium is done responsibly and without the use of public funds.

[Bludegeon]

California already has 3 shitty NFL teams.

Why the need for one more?

[Crazy Levi]

They should just ship the Chargers off to St. Louis after the Rams leave.

Is it possible for all 3 teams to have a future in LA? As in an immediate future? No chance any of those franchises return to their former towns now that each has announced a desire to move.

Teams have, many, many times, threatened to move as a bargaining chip to get a new stadium. Far from "no chance" that any of those 3 teams stay where they are. People don't take that shit personally, it's business.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

They should just ship the Chargers off to St. Louis after the Rams leave.

Is it possible for all 3 teams to have a future in LA? As in an immediate future? No chance any of those franchises return to their former towns now that each has announced a desire to move.

Teams have, many, many times, threatened to move as a bargaining chip to get a new stadium. Far from "no chance" that any of those 3 teams stay where they are. People don't take that shit personally, it's business.

The Rams had better pray that they get the call after this:

http://deadspin.com/in-application-to-m ... 1751320853

[UtahRatt]

The city of Oakland released a statement basically saying the city wants to work with the team and the NFL, as long as building a stadium is done responsibly and without the use of public funds.

Bull shit as usual.
The City of Oakland wants to keep the Raiders, don't want to raise even more tax dollars then what they have offered which is completely reasonable. The City has put together a good package unless your Loria or 75% of the other owners.

Look at what Loria and the Marlins did to Miami....Loria fucked that state and city forever. A generation of people and tax dollars will be lining Loria and his grand kids pockets. The county had to borrow $500 million in bonds, the total payments for all of the $500 million borrowed by the county will eventually come in at a whopping $2.4 billion. Not only did Jeffrey Loria get taxpayers to buy him a stadium, but they bought him the most expensive stadium ever built and Loria don't even pay taxes on the free land.

http://deadspin.com/5978964/the-real-co ... e-billions


Here is Oakland's presentation, if Oakland leaves it's because of the owners are money hungry. The City has made a great case for them to stay and economic Professors say more cities should do the same.

http://sfist.com/2015/11/12/the_raiders ... t_to_l.php

It's getting a bit old how team owners fuck the peoples tax dollars and line their pockets when the NFL is making money hand over fistfucking.

I can't say it enough......Loria and politicians sold one set of bonds on the exchange worth $91 million. Payments begin in 2026, and quickly skyrocket. By 2048, when the last payment is due, the total reaches $1.18 billion. A 500 Million lone turned into 2.4 Billion paid in tax money? FUCK OFF!

And Machado, you think Oakland should flip the bill? I'd be surprised you could balance a checkbook.

I can't picture the NFL in 2016 having 3 NFL teams in LA and no team in Oakland, St. Louis and San Diego. It will be fucking stupid.

[UtahRatt]

The Beagles, good luck. They got spanked a month ago by the Steelers. The Beagles have a stingy D and I bet McCarron will toss a couple picks. It could be a good game if Cincy's D sets the tempo. If not the Steelers will run them over continuing the streak of loosing playoff games for the Beagles.

Steelers over Beagles

"Beagles" is the preferred "idiots fan nickname" for the EAGLES, not the Bengals.

Despite this mangling of fan smack, I'd like to point out the Bengals will indeed win this one, with Andy Dalton coming off the bench in an inspiring Willis Reed moment.

I've been calling and hearing the Bengals called the Beagles since I was a kid and could care less of what you NFCLeast freaks think, that divisional fan base is on another level.

Fuck the Pigs and the Seagulls. Because a bird has a lot in common with a fucking dog.

[Tenacious_Dio]

I can't picture the NFL in 2016 having 3 NFL teams in LA and no team in Oakland, St. Louis and San Diego. It will be fucking stupid.

There won't be 3 teams in LA.

Someone is gonna have to stay put. For a while, anyway.

[Machado]

The city of Oakland released a statement basically saying the city wants to work with the team and the NFL, as long as building a stadium is done responsibly and without the use of public funds.

And Machado, you think Oakland should flip the bill? I'd be surprised you could balance a checkbook.

You can flip a house, but you can't flip a bill

Utah, get off your soapbox already. This is Sludge, not City Hall.
The last team I want to get a stadium is Oakland. Between the Al Davis lawsuits and them moving to LA, then returning to Oakland, building Mt Davis in the outfield, the NFL franchise does not deserve a stadium paid by the public. Either they pay for it or you don't get one in Oakland or the surrounding area.

[UtahRatt]

I can't picture the NFL in 2016 having 3 NFL teams in LA and no team in Oakland, St. Louis and San Diego. It will be fucking stupid.

There won't be 3 teams in LA.

Someone is gonna have to stay put. For a while, anyway.

2 teams bunking up in the same stadium is a possibility and it's two too many. I find it stupid, I find it lamer one of them is my team and I hate teams moving around and back again.

The Cardinals, Colts, Browns, Oilers......And then they move back again. Never been a fan of the circus owners.

Ever been in a city when a team leaves? I was in Cleveland when Art stole the team. It literately left the city feeling dead. Like a dark cloud moved over Cleveland and sucked the life out of everyone. It sucked. Fuck Art. The feeling was indescribable. No one talked about it but talk about the walking dead. Money hungry players, owners, unions and the NFL.
On top of fucking taxes for these new stadiums, what are tickets going for nowadays, can't even take your family to a game without talking to a loan officer.

Just so I can watch 2 hours of flags and replays.

[UtahRatt]

You can flip a house, but you can't flip a bill

Utah, get off your soapbox already. This is Sludge, not City Hall.
The last team I want to get a stadium is Oakland. Between the Al Davis lawsuits and them moving to LA, then returning to Oakland, building Mt Davis in the outfield, the NFL franchise does not deserve a stadium paid by the public. Either they pay for it or you don't get one in Oakland or the surrounding area.

Soapbox? So you're the one who say which team deserves or doesn't deserve a new stadium. Moron.

Reported.

[Tenacious_Dio]

Ever been in a city when a team leaves?

I was in Charlotte when the Hornets bolted for New Orleans. It sucked. I didn't get completely over it until we finally got the name back.

But it was nothing like what Cleveland and Baltimore went through.

[Crazy Levi]

I can't picture the NFL in 2016 having 3 NFL teams in LA and no team in Oakland, St. Louis and San Diego. It will be fucking stupid.

There won't be 3 teams in LA.

Someone is gonna have to stay put. For a while, anyway.

2 teams bunking up in the same stadium is a possibility and it's two too many. I find it stupid, I find it lamer one of them is my team and I hate teams moving around and back again.

The Cardinals, Colts, Browns, Oilers......And then they move back again. Never been a fan of the circus owners.

Ever been in a city when a team leaves? I was in Cleveland when Art stole the team. It literately left the city feeling dead. Like a dark cloud moved over Cleveland and sucked the life out of everyone. It sucked. Fuck Art. The feeling was indescribable. No one talked about it but talk about the walking dead. Money hungry players, owners, unions and the NFL.
On top of fucking taxes for these new stadiums, what are tickets going for nowadays, can't even take your family to a game without talking to a loan officer.

Just so I can watch 2 hours of flags and replays.

Goddamn you are a fucking crybaby.

It ain't THAT goddamn expensive to go to a football game. Usually $100 a person on stubhub. To see shitty teams at the end of the season you can usually get in for 20 bucks.

When was the last time you went to an NFL game anyway?

And yeah it sucks when a team leaves. But some places don't need teams. St. Louis? Nobody there gives a shit or ever gave a shit about that team, except for about 3 years with the Greatest Show on Turf. Nobody was begging for that team, they just showed up.

Baltimore? The City Council was about 10 hours away from trying to seize that team via eminent domain, no fucking shit. The owner literally had no choice but to flee town in the middle of the night.

You've got places like Jacksonville that NEVER should have even gotten a team in the first place. No wonder they are always on the precipice of departure.

Watching the Raiders and Rams go back and forth every 20 years is pretty fucking hilarious though.

[Gritt]

I live in Missouri. Nobody gives a shit about the Rams. Even when they had he greatest show on turf the Chiefs were still all anybody cared about.

[Pierce Foreskin]

The Beagles, good luck. They got spanked a month ago by the Steelers. The Beagles have a stingy D and I bet McCarron will toss a couple picks. It could be a good game if Cincy's D sets the tempo. If not the Steelers will run them over continuing the streak of loosing playoff games for the Beagles.

Steelers over Beagles

"Beagles" is the preferred "idiots fan nickname" for the EAGLES, not the Bengals.

Despite this mangling of fan smack, I'd like to point out the Bengals will indeed win this one, with Andy Dalton coming off the bench in an inspiring Willis Reed moment.

I've been calling and hearing the Bengals called the Beagles since I was a kid and could care less of what you NFCLeast freaks think, that divisional fan base is on another level.

I thought the Bengals were always the Bungles.

[Machado]

I've been calling and hearing the Bengals called the Beagles since I was a kid and could care less of what you NFCLeast freaks think, that divisional fan base is on another level.

I thought the Bengals were always the Bungles.

I've heard of Bungles. Never heard of Beagles.
WTF!!!
All this time Utah thought he was onto something cool.
Just like that girl in Showgirls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iM9Gav-G4c

[Crazy Levi]

Admit it Ratt, you fucked up.

Bungles makes sense.

Beagles doesn't.

Unless you are talking about the eagles, which of course only nfc eastards would do.

Cause you know, beagles rhymes with eagles. And bungles kinda sounds like bengals.

Who can forget the New York post headline?

"Hide your beagles, Vick is an eagle!"

[Gritt]

Buccs just canned Lovie Smith after 2 years!

This makes zero sense.

[UtahRatt]

I thought the Bengals were always the Bungles.

Yes.

Admit it Ratt, you fucked up.

You probably call pop, soda or coke......Tonic.
Bungles kindDUH rhymes with Bengals? They don't kindA rhyme, it's the bungling Bengals because they use to bungle things up. We was calling them the Beagles when they played like puppies vs the Niners on last drive so why would you give a fuck? But just to make you happy.
I officially proclaim I've created my own dialect and claim all rights to the Beagles™ name when it comes to arguing over stupid shit like nick's in the NFCLeast. The pigs, the Skins, Pork Rinds, the Hogs can Oink off. The fish, the fins, the Bengals, the beagles. Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto how about you just suck me off.

Goddamn you are a fucking crybaby.

It ain't THAT goddamn expensive to go to a football game. Usually $100 a person on stubhub. To see shitty teams at the end of the season you can usually get in for 20 bucks.

When was the last time you went to an NFL game anyway?.

I wounder how big of a shit fit you'd toss if the PIGS moved to St. Louis after the Rams leave. You'd have your period then drive a car into the Hudson.

Machado would be fine he'd starting saying he's a Pat's fan.

$100 per person, take a family too one or more a season then tell me about it. I mentioned a billion times I gave up football for several years, It's been 5+ and it was closer to $130 a ticket which is a drop in the bucket after you add everyone and everything else in. It also helps that you live by a fucking team.

Baseball and Hockey is a different story, I regularly go to the Rockies, and try for an Avs game. Then catch the Mariners every other. tho this is the first year I've missed in a long time.

I give away Basketball tickets......It's not even a sports fix anymore.


Hog.

[UtahRatt]

Buccs just canned Lovie Smith after 2 years!

This makes zero sense.

Absolutely, a big improvement over last year with rookie QB and I'd say a weaker team yet they still won more games. I expected them to be the Titans. Stat wise they was pretty good on paper compared to their personal.
I think it's because they finished the season on a losing streak, I'd take Lovie in Oakland over Del Rio.

The team seems pretty pissed off.....Twitter responses from the locker room lit up like a Christmas tree.

Buccaneers linebacker Lavonte David tweeted out the following immediately after the announcement: "WTF YO!!!! ... This is stupid, we can't even have a consistent coach, 3 coaches in 5 yrs ... Outside looking in, y'all wouldn't understand how great of a coach/person he is ... I guess yall got what you been asking for smh." David later deleted the tweets

shaun king
@realshaunking
Only in america could raheem morris get 3 years to fix the bucs and lovie smith only 2....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... ise-firing

[UtahRatt]

You can flip a house, but you can't flip a bill

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him shit?

[Turner Coates]

You can flip a house, but you can't flip a bill

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him shit?

You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think?

[eddie lee roth]

It just doesn't seem fair to think of Lovie Smith as an ex-con, oops I mean ex-coach.

[UtahRatt]

It just doesn't seem fair to think of Lovie Smith as an ex-con, oops I mean ex-coach.

IMO, a very good Coach is someone that loses more games than he loses. Its a basic concept.

Lovie was onto something, won 2 games in 2014 and 6 in 2015 with Jameis Winston. Did anyone think Winston would throw for 4,000yds and win games. 22TD 15INTs. Decent start.

2 years of good draft picks. Their first 4 picks this year were all starters, drafted and started 2 solid OL and a monster LB till he got suspended for PED's. But beefing up their line opened holes for the 5th best running game and Winston played well so they did something right.

2 shitty kickers didn't help....THEY MISSED 20FG inside 49yds. 10 inside 39 and 10 inside 49. Add another 5 at 50+.......25 missed FG would have helped. They was in the playoff hunt till they went on the losing streak.

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Peyton Manning to start divisional round

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Calvin Johnson mulls retirement!

The Detroit Lions' receiver released a statement Wednesday stating that he's calculating his future.
"Like many players at this stage of their career, I am currently evaluating options for my future," Johnson said. "I would expect to have a decision regarding this matter in the not-too-distant future."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... retirement

[Machado]

It just doesn't seem fair to think of Lovie Smith as an ex-con, oops I mean ex-coach.

Calvin Johnson mulls retirement!

The Detroit Lions' receiver released a statement Wednesday stating that he's calculating his future.
"Like many players at this stage of their career, I am currently evaluating options for my future," Johnson said. "I would expect to have a decision regarding this matter in the not-too-distant future."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... retirement

The people of Detroit should stop going to the football games. Once again their best player is on the verge of walking away from the game

The situation is comical. First Barry and now Calvin. Who can blame him? The guy has made his $$$ and there is nothing to play for in Detroit.
Can they also move to LA & push the number to 4 teams in So. Cal?

[Crazy Levi]

Just got my tickets for the Skins/Packers game. Should be a balmy if moist 50 degrees or so.

Meanwhile, in Minny...holy shit! I wonder if this helps the Vikes' chances of pulling off an upset?

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The weather will be so bad in Minnesota that Vikings playoff tickets are selling for dirt cheap
Business Insider By Emmett Knowlton
2 hours ago

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(Andy King/AP)

The Minnesota Vikings will host the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday, marking the first time since 1976 that the Vikings will host a playoff game in an outdoor stadium.

And with AccuWeather's forecast predicting a high of three degrees Fahrenheit and a "Real Feel" of -17 degrees Fahrenheit, ticket prices for the game have fallen off a cliff.

According to listings on SeatGeek as of Thursday afternoon, the lowest price for a ticket into TCF Bank Stadium in Minneapolis is $45, compared to $98 for the Bengals/Steelers game in Cincinnati; $144 for the Texans/Chiefs game in Houston; and $147 for the Redskins/Packers in Washington.

Unsurprisingly, the cheapest seats in the stadium are not just in the nosebleeds — they are in the corners of the stadium smack in the middle of west-northwest winds whipping in from the stadium's scoreboard cutaway.

Sounds pleasant!

Weather conditions are expected to be so cold that the Vikings are asking fans in attendance to layer up with Styrofoam, cardboard, and old newspapers in order to stay warm. Blankets (nonelectric) are not only allowed but encouraged. Free hand-warmers will be distributed upon entry, and free coffee will be provided, too.

If the teams kick off in subzero temperatures, it will be for just the second time ever in Vikings' history and the first since 1972. For the Seahawks, Sunday is likely to be the coldest game in franchise history.

"We know Minnesotans are resilient when it comes to cold weather and unified when it comes to the Vikings, so we view this Sunday's game as a rallying moment," Vikings President Mark Wilf said in a statement on the team's website. "At the same time, we want our fans to be smart and safe when they are supporting the team, and we are taking a few extra steps to assist in that effort this Sunday."

Look: It's always special going to watch your team live in the playoffs. Especially when they haven't hosted an outdoor playoff game in 40 years. But sometimes cheering from the couch is good enough.

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[UtahRatt]

The people of Detroit should stop going to the football games. Once again their best player is on the verge of walking away from the game

The situation is comical. First Barry and now Calvin. Who can blame him? The guy has made his $$$ and there is nothing to play for in Detroit.
Can they also move to LA & push the number to 4 teams in So. Cal?

One unnamed former player told Foster that playing for the losing Lions can sap the joy from football.

"Playing in this city takes all the love out of the game," he told Foster. "All the cash and all the records means nothing. It beats you up."

Perhaps only the Lions can grind down all-time greats with such vigor.

[UtahRatt]

Peyton Manning to start divisional round
Brock Osweiler sidelined with knee sprain

Someone nailed this dead on.....Who was it a month ago that said this exactly. Manning mysterious injury would last till the playoffs then Osweiler would come up with a mysterious injury?

Funny how that worked out. I'll have to scroll back, good call.

[Gritt]

Peyton Manning to start divisional round
Brock Osweiler sidelined with knee sprain

Someone nailed this dead on.....Who was it a month ago that said this exactly. Manning mysterious injury would last till the playoffs then Osweiler would come up with a mysterious injury?

Funny how that worked out. I'll have to scroll back, good call.

It was Kamikazee Russo

[Crazy Levi]

Peyton Manning to start divisional round
Brock Osweiler sidelined with knee sprain

Someone nailed this dead on.....Who was it a month ago that said this exactly. Manning mysterious injury would last till the playoffs then Osweiler would come up with a mysterious injury?

Funny how that worked out. I'll have to scroll back, good call.

It was Kamikazee Russo

I think everybody wants to see Peyton take one more shot. They aren't winning any Super Bowls with Brock.