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This x 1000! That album for me was the coolest thing since Motley’s Shout got me into hard rock/metal/glam.Whatever Happened To… wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:14 am I fucking love that first album, the cover, title, everything about it.
I'd pay to see them, one of the few bands from the era that still deliver and even may have improved since then - Saxon did it so why not them.
One of my friends bagged on the Everything About You solo by calling it a "Poison solo"VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:00 pmI hated his lack of vibrato on most solos.Mojo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:01 pm Fun band with fun songs, and I'd say CC is actually underrated. His vibrato absolutely sounds like someone on coke, but his solos are often melodic, tasteful, and have a surprising amount of flash in them. I can see why insecure dudes might hate on them, but I think they're fun.
ijwthstd wrote: obviously you take this way too seriously and were deeply affected by what transpired in the early 1990's and hopefully you are discussing these issues with a therapist in addition to other fans on music message boards.
He wasn’t wrong.Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:42 pmOne of my friends bagged on the Everything About You solo by calling it a "Poison solo"VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:00 pmI hated his lack of vibrato on most solos.Mojo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:01 pm Fun band with fun songs, and I'd say CC is actually underrated. His vibrato absolutely sounds like someone on coke, but his solos are often melodic, tasteful, and have a surprising amount of flash in them. I can see why insecure dudes might hate on them, but I think they're fun.![]()
First two are TOP 10 all time faves. As mentioned above, Poison is on my Mt. Rushmore of Dreck. So yeah, I guess I see it differently....
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Zappa is pure cult status shit. He is to music what Bruce fucking Campbell is to acting....
Great post!Sleek wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:00 pm They were fiiiiine.
I was into heavier stuff when I first saw them, but appreciated how fun, energetic and charismatic they were...plus, I liked a lot of old pop and pop metal from the first glam era, and Poison had those great bubblegum songs. It was all basic chords and : "La la la" melodic vocals. You could sing along. You were invited to, even.
They also weren't as dreadfully serious about themselves as 99% of the bands back then were...liiiiiike, especially with DeVille, he was fully cognizant of just how fucking silly all of the shiny clothes and big-hair rockstar posing was, but would simultaneously just give himself over to it.
...this was not something you got from the other Hollywood bands. Shit like Reinkus Tide or Hans Naughty were 100% sillier, but also played it completely straight and MACHO, which made it sillier still.
I meannnn, you would get these bands who looked completely fucktarded, all made up with big teased hair and fancy clothes who would come out dead serious, then do some dreadful rock cliché song with a name like: "Rock School" or "Babe, I just need you to rock Babe" with these like, shitty complicated DARK sounding guitar riffs and Yngwie-light solos, and they would be "Yes! We are rocking you!!!! Everybody say: Rock! Rock! Rock!!" or some shit and it was just like...so fucking stupid.
King Kobra springs to mind...100% goofy looking, then they would do this: "HOLD UP YOUR HAND IN THE SIGN OF THE KOBRA!" and the singer would make like, a hand snake or some shit, and launch into a song called: "Raise Your Hands to Rock!"
Ahem.
...then you had Poison. They came out and jumped around and played Cheap Trick-meets-Sweet pop metal while laughing and smiling and looking great, never asking you to take their posturing seriously, never doing that godawful macho bullshit.
This wasn't ugly ol' Ron Keel pouting his way through "THE RIGHT TO ROCK!!!!" while the rest of the band tried to look tough, it was pretty-boy Bret laughing his was through "Talk Dirty to me" or "I want action" while the other guys hopped around smiling. The shit was infectious, the music+look synergy was spot-on, and, unlike the other bands, they were in on the whole ludicrous joke and having fun with it.
So yeah. Poison.
a- serves me right for misquoting the greatest hits cd inlays rather than vinyl inserts.Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:04 pmWerman did Open Up. Fairbairn did Flesh & Blood, which was the one after.
This place needs a new factchecker.
Well, it was the 80s, man... all the producers were running the same playbook.factchecker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 11:22 ama- serves me right for misquoting the greatest hits cd inlays rather than vinyl inserts.Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:04 pmWerman did Open Up. Fairbairn did Flesh & Blood, which was the one after.
This place needs a new factchecker.
b- I honestly can't distinguish between Werman's work on Open.... against Fairbairn's work on Flesh....Maybe a case of (under-rated) musicians determined the final sound against the producer producing. PANTERA Cowboys onwards had the same magic with Terry Date.
ijwthstd wrote: obviously you take this way too seriously and were deeply affected by what transpired in the early 1990's and hopefully you are discussing these issues with a therapist in addition to other fans on music message boards.
Not sure if a truer description of Poison exists. Well done.
Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:17 pmWell, it was the 80s, man... all the producers were running the same playbook.factchecker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 11:22 ama- serves me right for misquoting the greatest hits cd inlays rather than vinyl inserts.Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:04 pmWerman did Open Up. Fairbairn did Flesh & Blood, which was the one after.
This place needs a new factchecker.
b- I honestly can't distinguish between Werman's work on Open.... against Fairbairn's work on Flesh....Maybe a case of (under-rated) musicians determined the final sound against the producer producing. PANTERA Cowboys onwards had the same magic with Terry Date.
If you look at the photos on that back cover they really haven't toned down that much. I always thought Open Up... was even better than debut but both are great.Whatever Happened To… wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:24 am Remember buying Open Up (still at school) on LP and being really disappointed that the image had been toned down.
Whatever Happened To… wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:24 am Bret Michaels - Vocalizin' and Socializin'
Rikki Rockett - Sticks, Tricks & Lipstick Fix
Bobby Dall - Bass Rapin' & Heartbreakin'
C.C. Deville - Guitar Screechin' & Hair Bleachin'
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I have this same opinion. Not my thing, I dislike the majority of this genre,' and I've always thought Poison was ridiculous.diablomozart wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:44 am bad? nah...they were fun just not to my taste really...would be hard to argue that they didn't write catchy songs...d.m.
THIS.Sleek wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:00 pm They were fiiiiine.
I was into heavier stuff when I first saw them, but appreciated how fun, energetic and charismatic they were...plus, I liked a lot of old pop and pop metal from the first glam era, and Poison had those great bubblegum songs. It was all basic chords and : "La la la" melodic vocals. You could sing along. You were invited to, even.
They also weren't as dreadfully serious about themselves as 99% of the bands back then were...liiiiiike, especially with DeVille, he was fully cognizant of just how fucking silly all of the shiny clothes and big-hair rockstar posing was, but would simultaneously just give himself over to it.
...this was not something you got from the other Hollywood bands. Shit like Reinkus Tide or Hans Naughty were 100% sillier, but also played it completely straight and MACHO, which made it sillier still.
I meannnn, you would get these bands who looked completely fucktarded, all made up with big teased hair and fancy clothes who would come out dead serious, then do some dreadful rock cliché song with a name like: "Rock School" or "Babe, I just need you to rock Babe" with these like, shitty complicated DARK sounding guitar riffs and Yngwie-light solos, and they would be "Yes! We are rocking you!!!! Everybody say: Rock! Rock! Rock!!" or some shit and it was just like...so fucking stupid.
King Kobra springs to mind...100% goofy looking, then they would do this: "HOLD UP YOUR HAND IN THE SIGN OF THE KOBRA!" and the singer would make like, a hand snake or some shit, and launch into a song called: "Raise Your Hands to Rock!"
Ahem.
...then you had Poison. They came out and jumped around and played Cheap Trick-meets-Sweet pop metal while laughing and smiling and looking great, never asking you to take their posturing seriously, never doing that godawful macho bullshit.
This wasn't ugly ol' Ron Keel pouting his way through "THE RIGHT TO ROCK!!!!" while the rest of the band tried to look tough, it was pretty-boy Bret laughing his was through "Talk Dirty to me" or "I want action" while the other guys hopped around smiling. The shit was infectious, the music+look synergy was spot-on, and, unlike the other bands, they were in on the whole ludicrous joke and having fun with it.
So yeah. Poison.