Streaming ruined the Billboard singles (*and albums) charts. It's all pointless now.

[Turner Coates]

Peter Frampton? That's hilarious. Garth can still sell out any arena in the United States at the drop of the hat, by 1982 Frampton was back in theaters. There's nothing similar there at all.

I was referring to the sales of "Frampton Comes Alive," which at the time was the biggest selling live album ever. Music execs and critics alike were raving about the feat.
Frampton's "importance" turned out to be a short lasting fluke.

[GreatWhiteSnake]

AI killed the customer service rep...

[Mister Freeze]

Frampton was a flash in the pan. One big album and that was it.

Taylor Swift has been at the top of the charts for more than twice as long as the Beatles existed. She is absolutely THE musical artist of her era.

Is she on the level of the Beatles? No. But nobody is. Yet she is ridiculously successful, managed to stay on top while consistently reinventing herself and occupies a certain place in the zeitgeist during a period when pop music isn't the shared experience it used to be. She also has an unusually strong connection with her fanbase that goes beyond the typical teenage obsessions.

And... she actually plays a guitar. Rare these days. You guys should at least appreciate that. Like her or not, she's a phenomenon.

[Turner Coates]

Frampton was a flash in the pan. One big album and that was it.

Taylor Swift has been at the top of the charts for more than twice as long as the Beatles existed. She is absolutely THE musical artist of her era.

Is she on the level of the Beatles? No. But nobody is. Yet she is ridiculously successful, managed to stay on top while consistently reinventing herself and occupies a certain place in the zeitgeist during a period when pop music isn't the shared experience it used to be. She also has an unusually strong connection with her fanbase that goes beyond the typical teenage obsessions.

And... she actually plays a guitar. Rare these days. You guys should at least appreciate that. Like her or not, she's a phenomenon.

My point is that the METHOD by which success is MEASURED has changed. It KEEPS changing. The yardstick will always grow exponentially larger.
Bigger does NOT mean better. It is subjective.
Hall and Oates may have sold more records than Simon and Garfunkel and the Everlys, but that does NOT make them more musically influential.
Garth Brooks and Taylor Swift (as of yet) are NOT as influential as the Beatles or Stones were.

[dmbrocker]

New T-Swift album taking up the top 11 spots on the chart. Just another excuse for you all to argue about the merits of Taylor vs. The Beatles: https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/

[Rocker4Real]

Don't forget about Post Malone!

[str]

New T-Swift album taking up the top 11 spots on the chart. Just another excuse for you all to argue about the merits of Taylor vs. The Beatles: https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/

Top 14 actually
and more after that,

I don't know why this makes sense to Billboard to keep counting this way ,

So many veteran artists make the top 10 on the Top Album Sales chart but are so much lower on the Billboard 200 and sometimes not even on it,
but those new albums seem popular enough when they first come out that their numbers should be Top 10 and not #150 or something like that,
Everybody's sales are low so it would be an even playing field today,
And if the pop artists who only sell (or stream) singles aren't high on the album chart it would be like the 50's or 60's with the Shangri-Las , etc. , that seems fair , it was that way before,
I wonder if it's pressure on them from major labels,
But why would they let their old artists have embarrassing numbers like #150 ?
They're not all on indies now , are they ?

[Mister Freeze]

Interesting article about how Taylor Swift releases "special editions" of her latest album whenever someone else threatens to take over the #1 spot.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/artic ... -zeitgeist

At last count there are 34 editions of her latest album, each one with various bonus content.

At this point, it's about keeping her "record" going at #1, all for an album that basically fell flat with the general public.

[Bono Nettencourt]

Don't forget about Post Malone!

Pogue Mahone

[pieceofme]

Interesting article about how Taylor Swift releases "special editions" of her latest album whenever someone else threatens to take over the #1 spot.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/artic ... -zeitgeist

At last count there are 34 editions of her latest album, each one with various bonus content.

At this point, it's about keeping her "record" going at #1, all for an album that basically fell flat with the general public.

Yeah what was supposed to be the big hit on this album?

[Nate S Axel]

Don't forget about Post Malone!

#1 song with Morgan Wallen on the Billboard Hot 100 for four weeks in a row! Slim Shady is stuck at #2.

[Nate S Axel]

Don't forget about Post Malone!

#1 song with Morgan Wallen on the Billboard Hot 100 for four weeks in a row! Slim Shady is stuck at #2.

#1 song with Morgan Wallen on the Billboard Hot 100 for five weeks in a row! Slim Shady falls to #8.
https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/

[Love_Industry]

Don't forget about Post Malone!

I already did, thank you. Wasn't he the guy who sang with Ozzy on a track 5-6 years ago?

Oh, and suck fpotify. Plenty of fake artists, AI and stuff and a dumbass CEO who thinks the cost of creating "content" is almost zero. Well, you get what you pay for and it's not The River, Hysteria or VH1.

[dmbrocker]

Bump! It's that time of year again. Mariah at #1 for the Christmas season. At least it's not Shaboozey for the bajillionth week in a row:

https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/

[Turner Coates]

Did KISS ever do a Christmas album, and call it something cornball, such as, "KISSMAS?"

"Oooh baby...I wanna stick my chestnut log in yer egg nog."

[dmbrocker]

Did KISS ever do a Christmas album, and call it something cornball, such as, "KISSMAS?"

"Oooh baby...I wanna stick my chestnut log in yer egg nog."

Closest they got to that was the "Kiss Saves Santa" bit from Family Guy. Hilarious stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mEqljMlQ6o

[Turner Coates]

That was cool...a perfect medium for the KISS brand.
"Hang on Thanta!"

[pieceofme]

Did KISS ever do a Christmas album, and call it something cornball, such as, "KISSMAS?"

"Oooh baby...I wanna stick my chestnut log in yer egg nog."

Closest they got to that was the "Kiss Saves Santa" bit from Family Guy. Hilarious stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mEqljMlQ6o

Should have made it into an actual film.

[Turner Coates]

Did KISS ever do a Christmas album, and call it something cornball, such as, "KISSMAS?"

"Oooh baby...I wanna stick my chestnut log in yer egg nog."

Closest they got to that was the "Kiss Saves Santa" bit from Family Guy. Hilarious stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mEqljMlQ6o

Should have made it into an actual film.

It's not too late for Wolfie Mc Mammoth to make a Santa movie.

[GoodJudge]

Did KISS ever do a Christmas album, and call it something cornball, such as, "KISSMAS?"

"Oooh baby...I wanna stick my chestnut log in yer egg nog."

Closest they got to that was the "Kiss Saves Santa" bit from Family Guy. Hilarious stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mEqljMlQ6o

Should have made it into an actual film.

Kiss saves the Santa of the Park?

[Mister Freeze]

Bump! It's that time of year again. Mariah at #1 for the Christmas season. At least it's not Shaboozey for the bajillionth week in a row:

https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/

I saw the previous week's chart. The Top-10 was eight Kendrick Lamar songs from his new album that the general public will never know, that Shaboozey song, and "All I Want For Christmas is You" and figured yep, that's exactly what I'd expect these days. The only surprise: No Taylor Swift. Shouldn't some three-year-old deep cut be #1?

Anyway, in true Sludge fashion, I see it was only a matter of time before we made this thread about KISS too. Congrats lads.

[Sleek]

These charts are a joke. I wonder if Lefty Gunplay is like: "Damn, I could have been SOMEbody, if not for that hoe Brenda Lee".

What's the over/under on whether Burl Ives knocks Bruno Mars off the chart next week?

[Mister Freeze]

"Stray Kids Become First Act to Debut at No. 1 on Billboard 200 Albums Chart With First Six Chart Entries"
https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-b ... 235864031/

[Jason Jennifer Leigh]

They call this war a cloud over the land. But they made the weather and then they stand in the rain and say 'Shit, it's raining“!!!

[SexxAtraxxion]

Mariah Carey‘s “All I Want for Christmas Is You” crowns the Billboard Hot 100 for an 18th total week. The carol, which leads for a fourth consecutive week this holiday season, moves to within one week of the longest domination in the chart’s 66-year history, after only the 19-week rules of Shaboozey’s “A Bar Song (Tipsy)” this year and Lil Nas X’s “Old Town Road,” featuring Billy Ray Cyrus, in 2019.

“All I Want for Christmas Is You” was originally released on Carey’s album Merry Christmas in November 1994 and, as streaming has grown and holiday music has become more prominent on streaming services’ playlists, it hit the Hot 100’s top 10 for the first time in December 2017, and the top five for the first time in the 2018 holiday season. It led at last, prior to the past four weeks, over the holidays in 2019 (for three weeks), 2020 (two), 2021 (three), 2022 (four) and 2023 (two).

[Mister Freeze]

"Teddy Swims Makes Chart History as ‘Lose Control’ Beats the Weeknd’s Record for Most Weeks in Top 10"
https://variety.com/2025/music/news/ted ... 236374156/

58 weeks in the top 10. More than a year

How many weeks did "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" stay in the top-10? Like, six?

[Nate S Axel]

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/28/g-s1-693 ... ver-charts

As expected, country superstar Morgan Wallen has the week's No. 1 album, as I'm the Problem debuts atop the Billboard 200. All but one of its 37 songs land in the Hot 100, while his new single, the Tate McRae duet "What I Want," debuts atop the chart.

With 493,000 "equivalent album units" — that's the cocktail of sales and streaming that goes into assembling the Billboard 200 each week — I'm the Problem had the biggest week of any album this year. But its streaming numbers are lagging a bit behind those posted by its predecessor, 2023's One Thing at a Time, and it hasn't yet produced a surefire "song of the summer" contender to match 2023's "Last Night" (or 2024's "I Had Some Help," the Post Malone song on which Wallen featured as a guest).

Still, blockbuster numbers are blockbuster numbers, and Wallen's presence is felt all over the Hot 100 singles chart (see below). It's a huge debut for an album that promises to remain a presence for months — and, let's face it, years — to come, given that One Thing at a Time still sits at No. 4, while 2021's Dangerous: The Double Album resides at No. 12.

Think about that for a second: I'm the Problem has 37 songs, all but one of which rank among the week's top 100 songs. (Technically, he's got 37 on the chart, because "I Had Some Help" sits at No. 19.) Even after releasing all those new songs, fans still streamed One Thing at a Time (which has 36 tracks) and Dangerous: The Double Album (which began with 30 songs and subsequently expanded to include 33) enough to keep them both in the top 12. That's a lot of Morgan Wallen to go around — and his debut album, If I Know Me, is still sitting around at No. 75.

[str]

A few weeks ago Billy Idol's new album debuted at #7 on the Billboard Album Sales chart,
It was nowhere on the Billboard 200 chart ,
Not exactly representative