Jane's Addiction Boston - Dave and Perry FIGHT!

[Spongie]

Can you imagine being in a band so gay they have to tour with Love & Rockets?

What I meant to say is can you imagine being in a band so gay they have to tour with Jane’s Addiction?

Truly awful

[Van Ailin']

Yep, this kind of shit was happening BitD too:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ObscureMedia/c ... riot_1990/

Somehow they were able to cobble 2 great records together, but Dave Jerden may have had more to do with that than the band.

Listen to the really good interview with Dave Jerden on Brian Sword's (The Double Stop) podcast. I wish he would so some more of those.

The Double Stop, Ep. 69 - Dave Jerden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Eq9iPBZjFA

[Mister Freeze]

Speaking of attention seeking, where is his wife, by the way?

Her "personal observation" of the fight is weird. Her Instagram post reads like it was written by a fan or music journalist.

[ijwthstd]

I give credit to Dave for not clocking him after that first swing. It has to be frustrating watching each night of your tour devolve into a train wreck because your singer is a fucking alcoholic.

Watch closer. That's Eric Avery who punches Perry in the stomach several times. He DGAF and will just walk away again. When he rejoined for the NINJA tour in 2009 it was Trent Reznor who asked him.

[Van Ailin']

I give credit to Dave for not clocking him after that first swing. It has to be frustrating watching each night of your tour devolve into a train wreck because your singer is a fucking alcoholic.

Watch closer. That's Eric Avery who punches Perry in the stomach several times. He DGAF and will just walk away again. When he rejoined for the NINJA tour in 2009 it was Trent Reznor who asked him.

I'm only sad that Avery didn't go to his nose, which was well-deserved.

[ijwthstd]

I'm only sad that Avery didn't go to his nose, which was well-deserved.

But then Eric might be stuck having to buy him another one and those things ain't cheap. It's not just blowing his wad on drugs why Perry needs the money and Eric doesn't.

[Neil Diamond Dave]

I give credit to Dave for not clocking him after that first swing. It has to be frustrating watching each night of your tour devolve into a train wreck because your singer is a fucking alcoholic.

Watch closer. That's Eric Avery who punches Perry in the stomach several times. He DGAF and will just walk away again. When he rejoined for the NINJA tour in 2009 it was Trent Reznor who asked him.

Yep, Eric's the only one who will do that. The crew and security want to keep their jobs. I'll bet today is spent patching things up between the guys, in preparation for tomorrow night's show.

[Lobo]

It's not just blowing his wad on drugs why Perry needs the money and Eric doesn't.

I don't think Perry is hurting for money.

He just did a comeback/farewell tour with Porno For Pyros. I figure he'd keep it going if he needed the money.

Also, Jane's Addiction hasn't really toured much the last decade.

For someone that needs money Perry hasn't really worked all that much.

Finally, the Lolapalooza brand name is still going strong 35 years after it's inception. Perry created it. There's still a 4-day Lolapalooza festival in Chicago every year, plus multiple versions throughout Europe, South America and Asia. You've got to figure he's still making really good money off of those if he still owns the name, they have to pay him to use it. If he's involved in more than just owning the name, he's making even more.

[Bono Nettencourt]

Perry's bearding fees are pretty high.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

The best part is Eric A pummeling him backstage.

[Bono Nettencourt]

https://youtu.be/asAlBgHoqjI?si=iVWsqDORELPAkNnb

[Lobo]

Sunday show in Bridgeport, CT has been cancelled.

Band issued an apology to the fans.

Next scheduled show is September 18th in Toronto, ON.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/janes-a ... n-apology/

Jane's Addiction has offered a public apology for the onstage scuffle that brought an early end to their show in Boston last night.

Reportedly upset about the stage volume his bandmates were playing at during recent concerts, singer Perry Farrell shoved and then punched guitarist Dave Navarro, after which he was restrained and dragged offstage by the crew and bassist Eric Avery. The scuffle brought an early end to the show, during which the band was celebrating drummer Stephen Perkins' 47th birthday.

"We want to extend a heartfelt apology to our fans for the events that unfolded last night," read the brief Instagram stories statement, which can be seen below. "As a result we will be cancelling tomorrow night's show in Bridgeport."

Jane's Addiction was scheduled to perform Sunday night at the Hartford Healthcare Amphiteatre in Bridgeport, Connecticut. The next show on their itinerary is now Sept. 18 at the Budweiser Stage in Toronto.

After the show, Farrell's wife Etty issued her first-person account of the incident, stating that her husband had been suffering from tinnitus and a sore throat due to the band's high stage volume, and suggesting that Avery may have taken some cheap shots at the singer while he was being restrained: “[He] put Perry in a headlock and punched him in the stomach three times.”

Jane's Addiction's current tour, their first to feature their original lineup in years, is currently set to conclude on Oct. 16 in their hometown of Los Angeles.

[Van Ailin']

The best part is Eric A pummeling him backstage.

He didn't. Was onstage - you can see in the video. And despite her drama (that's what she does), none of them really landed anyway.

[aznsquirt]

I give credit to Dave for not clocking him after that first swing. It has to be frustrating watching each night of your tour devolve into a train wreck because your singer is a fucking alcoholic.

I agree, people are calling him a pussy but I didn't see a pussy, I saw a man with restraint.

I've never liked Perry, always thought he was a complete tool, and it's obvious here.

That being said, clearly he's struggling with addiction and hopefully he can get it under control.

The post about this likely being him trying to taper off/go clean and then jonesing and acting out makes sense.

I'm not sure if it's alcohol or just his old decrepit ass, but he moves like someone suffering minor alcohol withdrawal shakes. But he also might've been blitzed there, hard to say.

Also, his wife trying to publicly make it about Avery being the villain is hilarious.

[daveg]

Now this is how you punch someone on stage...courtesy of Afroman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZTgVF3 ... l=Mashable

[ijwthstd]

Eric has hated Perry going back to 1986. When they got their major label Perry refused to sign until they turned over the lion's share of the publishing. Eric said the band died for him that day and he enrolled in college. When he was asked back for the 2009 tour with Nine Inch Nails it was Trent Reznor who made the call. Now that Santa Barbara Bowl set was a great show.

[ijwthstd]

It's not just blowing his wad on drugs why Perry needs the money and Eric doesn't.

I don't think Perry is hurting for money.

He just did a comeback/farewell tour with Porno For Pyros. I figure he'd keep it going if he needed the money.

Also, Jane's Addiction hasn't really toured much the last decade.

For someone that needs money Perry hasn't really worked all that much.

Finally, the Lolapalooza brand name is still going strong 35 years after it's inception. Perry created it. There's still a 4-day Lolapalooza festival in Chicago every year, plus multiple versions throughout Europe, South America and Asia. You've got to figure he's still making really good money off of those if he still owns the name, they have to pay him to use it. If he's involved in more than just owning the name, he's making even more.

I really don't have the first clue about his financial situation though lifelong drug addicts tend to burn thru money much faster both due to the cost of maintaining their addictions and the resulting poor choices. I didn't realize JA hasn't toured that much, I haven't paid close attention but it seems to me they were always on tour. Of course not touring can also have a negative financial impact.

Not sure how successful PFP would be outside of sold out 1800 seaters on the coasts. Seems like hitting a brick wall with the 2nd album is what led to the Relapse tour. The 2022 show was good and would have loved to have seen 2024 because Mike Watt is one of my favorite musicians but the prices ... I watched the stream and wasn't impressed. Perry's voice was weak and he seemed really elderly, even compared to just 18 months before.

[Bono Nettencourt]

I give credit to Dave for not clocking him after that first swing. It has to be frustrating watching each night of your tour devolve into a train wreck because your singer is a fucking alcoholic.

I agree, people are calling him a pussy but I didn't see a pussy, I saw a man with restraint.

I've never liked Perry, always thought he was a complete tool, and it's obvious here.

That being said, clearly he's struggling with addiction and hopefully he can get it under control.

The post about this likely being him trying to taper off/go clean and then jonesing and acting out makes sense.

Yeah he doesn't want Navarros smoke. Dave could kill him if he felt like it.

Apparently the Tower Theatre riot he started in 1990 was because he couldn't cop heroin, got dopesick, and took it out on the audience, which is ridiculous because there were open-air drug markets all over Philly. Shit, the airport/SW Philly was just 10 min away. What a dumbass, he couldn't even get being a junkie right.

[ijwthstd]

I give credit to Dave for not clocking him after that first swing. It has to be frustrating watching each night of your tour devolve into a train wreck because your singer is a fucking alcoholic.

I agree, people are calling him a pussy but I didn't see a pussy, I saw a man with restraint.

I've never liked Perry, always thought he was a complete tool, and it's obvious here.

That being said, clearly he's struggling with addiction and hopefully he can get it under control.

The post about this likely being him trying to taper off/go clean and then jonesing and acting out makes sense.

Yeah he doesn't want Navarros smoke. Dave could kill him if he felt like it.

Apparently the Tower Theatre riot he started in 1990 was because he couldn't cop heroin, got dopesick, and took it out on the audience, which is ridiculous because there were open-air drug markets all over Philly. Shit, the airport/SW Philly was just 10 min away. What a dumbass, he couldn't even get being a junkie right.

That's hilarious!

Actually a lot of the slightly more functional junkie musicians would kick before going on tour because in years past there were a lot of places where heroin just wasn't available. Mark Arm from Mudhoney is 1 example. I don't think it was until the turn of the century after Oxycontin hit that the whole country got saturated with it.

[Indy_Rob]

Actually a lot of the slightly more functional junkie musicians would kick before going on tour

He's gonna kick tomorrow.

[Van Ailin']

Apparently the Tower Theatre riot he started in 1990 was because he couldn't cop heroin, got dopesick, and took it out on the audience, which is ridiculous because there were open-air drug markets all over Philly. Shit, the airport/SW Philly was just 10 min away. What a dumbass, he couldn't even get being a junkie right.

I do realize that once addicted to the stuff, it's a complicated thing as the body's addiction screams for it so loud that it becomes almost involuntary. That's why we're taught to not see the addiction in a moral sense or in a "why not just stop right now" sense.

That said, there is a time in life when that addiction isn't there and isn't compelling the body to do it. That time is before the first time using the stuff. There is all kinds of information out there showing exactly why it's not a good idea to go down this road. So it's almost a measure of one's intelligence: do you ever take that first bit or not. If not, you're smart. If yes, you are a fucking dumbass. There is only one 100% foolproof way to not have to deal with addiction to opiates: don't ever take the first dose. I may be wrong about some things . . . but not this.

[ijwthstd]

Apparently the Tower Theatre riot he started in 1990 was because he couldn't cop heroin, got dopesick, and took it out on the audience, which is ridiculous because there were open-air drug markets all over Philly. Shit, the airport/SW Philly was just 10 min away. What a dumbass, he couldn't even get being a junkie right.

I do realize that once addicted to the stuff, it's a complicated thing as the body's addiction screams for it so loud that it becomes almost involuntary. That's why we're taught to not see the addiction in a moral sense or in a "why not just stop right now" sense.

That said, there is a time in life when that addiction isn't there and isn't compelling the body to do it. That time is before the first time using the stuff. There is all kinds of information out there showing exactly why it's not a good idea to go down this road. So it's almost a measure of one's intelligence: do you ever take that first bit or not. If not, you're smart. If yes, you are a fucking dumbass. There is only one 100% foolproof way to not have to deal with addiction to opiates: don't ever take the first dose. I may be wrong about some things . . . but not this.

Oh I agree completely. However after the US successfully got Turkey to stop growing opium in the 1970's and heroin use went into a steep decline most law enforcement resources and public education in the 1980's were directed at cocaine and marijuana. This was while opium cultivation and heroin purity was skyrocketing worldwide and methamphetamine production was also steadily increasing. A lot of people suggest it was the hyperbolic portrayal of marijuana as a dangerous and addictive drug that led to a lot of skepticism over the warnings against taking harder drugs.

We did have a junkie speak at school about heroin use though.

But yeah, he is a dumbass. Now opiate use after 1997 is a whole different story. It was given to us safely by our trusted physicians. Well not me, though the dentist sure gave me a helluva lot of vicodin for a root canal. I think I took 1 or 2 and tossed the rest.

[Lobo]

Yeah, I don't think Jane's Addiction has been all that active in regards to touring until the last 3 years.

Their last album was in 2011 and they did a theatre tour to support it. But since then it's been pretty sporadic as far as touring goes.

When it comes to being a "junkie" I agree with some of what was said here but there are people that dabble in hard drugs yet never become hardcore addicts.

Oxy was prescribed to ordinary everyday people after injury or accident and they ended up addicted, others didn't.

If it wasn't the Oxy it probably would have been something else like alcohol.

You either have an addictive personality or you don't.

Millions of people end up in hospital everyday and end up being given morphine or fentanyl, how many of them leave the hospital as addicts? very few.

A close family member of mine was given morphine while in hospital and told me it was the best shit he ever had in his life but never did he end up seeking opiates out on the street after being discharged.

Some people have the wiring to become addicts...to anything, others don't.

Before I quit smoking cigarettes I just couldn't understand how some people could only smoke while they were drinking booze yet didn't have the urge at any other time.

Just like some people can dabble in hard drugs yet not become dependent on it.

Some people have addictive personalities, others don't.

[mrsnikkisixx]

He took a swing but he can’t hit.

[ijwthstd]

There is a reason this opiate addiction hit certain areas of the country harder than others such deindustrialization and economic decline and the resulting social wreckage. You know, things we considered black people problems when crack hit the inner cities.

I remember grabbing video streams of Jane's Addiction throughout the last decade at Kaboo, Lolla, Voodoo etc but I guess those might have been one offs.

[aznsquirt]

When they got their major label Perry refused to sign until they turned over the lion's share of the publishing.

Dafuq is the logic here? Was he bargaining for a bigger advance or something?

[ijwthstd]

When they got their major label Perry refused to sign until they turned over the lion's share of the publishing.

Dafuq is the logic here? Was he bargaining for a bigger advance or something?

I may not be recounting it right but I got it out of Whores the oral history. I think so he could make the most money when they start selling records.

[aznsquirt]

Apparently the Tower Theatre riot he started in 1990 was because he couldn't cop heroin, got dopesick, and took it out on the audience, which is ridiculous because there were open-air drug markets all over Philly. Shit, the airport/SW Philly was just 10 min away. What a dumbass, he couldn't even get being a junkie right.

I do realize that once addicted to the stuff, it's a complicated thing as the body's addiction screams for it so loud that it becomes almost involuntary. That's why we're taught to not see the addiction in a moral sense or in a "why not just stop right now" sense.

That said, there is a time in life when that addiction isn't there and isn't compelling the body to do it. That time is before the first time using the stuff. There is all kinds of information out there showing exactly why it's not a good idea to go down this road. So it's almost a measure of one's intelligence: do you ever take that first bit or not. If not, you're smart. If yes, you are a fucking dumbass. There is only one 100% foolproof way to not have to deal with addiction to opiates: don't ever take the first dose. I may be wrong about some things . . . but not this.

Oh I agree completely. However after the US successfully got Turkey to stop growing opium in the 1970's and heroin use went into a steep decline most law enforcement resources and public education in the 1980's were directed at cocaine and marijuana. This was while opium cultivation and heroin purity was skyrocketing worldwide and methamphetamine production was also steadily increasing. A lot of people suggest it was the hyperbolic portrayal of marijuana as a dangerous and addictive drug that led to a lot of skepticism over the warnings against taking harder drugs.

We did have a junkie speak at school about heroin use though.

But yeah, he is a dumbass. Now opiate use after 1997 is a whole different story. It was given to us safely by our trusted physicians. Well not me, though the dentist sure gave me a helluva lot of vicodin for a root canal. I think I took 1 or 2 and tossed the rest.

All good points. I hadn't thought about it, but having my first drug education in school being in the late 1980s/early 1990s, there was very little discussion of opiates IIRC.

I remember the discussion being all about "Uppers" "Downers", Angel Dust/LSD, PCP, Cocaine/Crack, and Marijuana.

Even even in the "Uppers" category I remember very little talk of meth. I remember hearing one teacher mention meth in passing, but it wasn't part of the textbooks themselves. The fact that they were 10 years old didn't help.

Oh, and AIDS was gonna kill all of us.

[aznsquirt]

When they got their major label Perry refused to sign until they turned over the lion's share of the publishing.

Dafuq is the logic here? Was he bargaining for a bigger advance or something?

I may not be recounting it right but I got it out of Whores the oral history. I think so he could make the most money when they start selling records.

Oh, you mean the other band members had to turn over their share of the publishing to Perry? Makes sense. Duh on my part.

I read it like Perry wanted to turn over the bands publishing to the label, haha.

[SterileEyes1]

Speaking of attention seeking, where is his wife, by the way?

Her "personal observation" of the fight is weird. Her Instagram post reads like it was written by a fan or music journalist.

“This sounds like something someone who does a lot of meth with Perry would say,” I said to myself reading that thing.