What's wrong with Mane Attraction?

[Love_Industry]

No. Slip of the Tongue still went platinum and had a very successful tour. They ended it by headlining Donington that year.
I think the sheen did start to fade because everyone realized it was the Cov Show, and later, there were whinings and rumblings of not liking Steve Vai. I loved all of it.

To this day I can’t explain the fickle fan base of Cinderella. Maybe they strayed too far from Night Songs? Maybe it was too much Long Cold Winter? I like all three records and felt they deserved a bump up to the next level on Heartbreak. How they lost 2.5 million in sales on that one from their previous two is unexplainable to me all these years later. It’s not like they went from Pride to a Big Game drop in quality.

I like Slip of the Tongue too, Vai was great there and also with Roth and Alcatrazz and the SOTT tour was the first time I saw and met the band so I love that era too. But they lost even more in sales than Cinderella. From 8 mil to just one, that's quite a backlash. No wonder Geffen dropped them.

Heartbreak was a drop in quality but you're right it wasn't as bad as Big Game, HitNF or something. But who was buying all those Cinderella albums? Was there a fanbase of Cinderellatards or was it mostly casuals who needed to see the new single in rotation on MTV? Headlining 71 arena shows sounds respectable, can't see Great White or Dokken doing that.

I never saw Cinderella live but they were never close to headlining arenas in Sweden. They were going to open for Priest on Ram It Down but got kicked off as Priest didn't need them to sell tickets. We got Bonfire instead.

[the_man_incognito]

I lived in The Netherlands 92-93.
Never heard a peep about hair metal in the scene I was around.
But, fuck, every other week it seemed like the Spin Doctors were playing a show somewhere in the country

A weird time when the "poodle rockers" became embarrassing 80s holdovers overnight... and at the same time Guns, Leppard, Aerosmith and Van Halen packed arenas all over Europe. Bon Jovi too.... Keep the Faith is another album where I learned on Sludge that it bombed in the US. It was huge this side of the Atlantic.

I saw Aerosmith on the Get a Grip tour with Steve Vai opening in a huge arena and it was packed...
And I agree with Keep the Faith. I was a regular at the 'metal' bar in Amersfoort (the Boothill). Generally they played metal and heavier grunge, but loved playing Keep the Faith when it came out...

[Tommy2Tone84]

No. Slip of the Tongue still went platinum and had a very successful tour. They ended it by headlining Donington that year.
I think the sheen did start to fade because everyone realized it was the Cov Show, and later, there were whinings and rumblings of not liking Steve Vai. I loved all of it.

To this day I can’t explain the fickle fan base of Cinderella. Maybe they strayed too far from Night Songs? Maybe it was too much Long Cold Winter? I like all three records and felt they deserved a bump up to the next level on Heartbreak. How they lost 2.5 million in sales on that one from their previous two is unexplainable to me all these years later. It’s not like they went from Pride to a Big Game drop in quality.

I like Slip of the Tongue too, Vai was great there and also with Roth and Alcatrazz and the SOTT tour was the first time I saw and met the band so I love that era too. But they lost even more in sales than Cinderella. From 8 mil to just one, that's quite a backlash. No wonder Geffen dropped them.

Heartbreak was a drop in quality but you're right it wasn't as bad as Big Game, HitNF or something. But who was buying all those Cinderella albums? Was there a fanbase of Cinderellatards or was it mostly casuals who needed to see the new single in rotation on MTV? Headlining 71 arena shows sounds respectable, can't see Great White or Dokken doing that.

I never saw Cinderella live but they were never close to headlining arenas in Sweden. They were going to open for Priest on Ram It Down but got kicked off as Priest didn't need them to sell tickets. We got Bonfire instead.

Aside from two fillers, Slip is a solid effort. Alcatrazz wasn’t big here and I never bothered to check them out until the post Napster era. I was a Vai solo fan, DLR Band and WS. I would have been perfectly happy had he done double duty of solo shred guy while Cov was off supergrouping with Jimmy Page and they continued on sporadically with WS in the 90s.

I don’t know when Geffen dropped Coverdale as Coverdale was still on Geffen when Coverdale Page was released. Restless Heart was released on EMI but didn’t get a US release at the time. CP went platinum at the height of Grunge so I don’t know what the deal was there other than Roberta and his manager sabotaged the US tour and further albums by coercing Jim’s balls back into Bob’s purse.

I think some of WS’s problem was it was the Dave Coverdale show. A good chunk of his fanbase is loyal to Sykes. I don’t know why given Sykes’s anti-social, recluse patterned behavior. Cov should’ve kept Aldridge and Sarzo on retainer. Vand was always a weak link for me. I can take him or leave him as a secondary guitarist but would not accept him as their lead guitarist. It appears Coverdale must’ve felt the same way as he never toured States side with Adrian in the lead spot, carrying the band.

Hair metal fans are way more fickle than you average Boomer Eagles and Stones fan. Fleetwood Mac did have big drop off between Rumours and Tusk. So did AC/DC between BIB andFTATR. The early mid 90s was a weird and disheartening time. 80s Bands who got dropped shouldn’t have. Some bands like Axl N Roses should’ve been dropped but were not. Motley should have been dropped too.

BG and HitNF are borderline embarrassing, HitNF especially. Vest were overrated

I didn’t feel Heartbreak was a big drop off in quality. Did it “rock” quite as much as their first two? Maybe not. It was more laid back but I found the quality of the songs on par with Winter. VH didn’t get dropped when FW initially tanked here nor did AC/DC when their sales slipped dramatically during the Brian Johnson years. The record business doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. A lot of it seems based on ad hocking, throwing it up on the wall to see if it sticks and perceptions of hipness and coolness. Many suits and artists dehumanize us here in the fanbase.

[Mister Freeze]

We argue the same shit every few months.

Slip of the Tongue and Heartbreak Station had the same problem: unremarkable lead singles. The follow-up power ballads were okay, but didn't match what came before on previous albums.

Whitesnake's sound felt sterile and missed the grit and crunch of the '87 album. People barely knew John Sykes. He was a name on an album, but rarely in a magazine photo and absent from the big videos. Nobody missed him. But they missed his sound.

Cinderella's sound evolved and it was still good, but Heartbreak Station is a collection of good album tracks, dull singles.

If you loved that shit, great. Enjoy it. But the general fan base wasn't on board. That's the story.

[Love_Industry]

VH didn’t get dropped when FW initially tanked here nor did AC/DC when their sales slipped dramatically during the Brian Johnson years. The record business doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. A lot of it seems based on ad hocking, throwing it up on the wall to see if it sticks and perceptions of hipness and coolness.

Sounds about right. The early 90s were brutal, one bomb and you were out for many bands. In the 80s bands like Krokus, Black'n Blue and Savatage could release a string of major label albums without getting dropped.

AC/DC were very close to getting dropped twice. With Dirty Deeds when the label refused to release the album but gave them another shot, and in the late 80s when they refused to work with outside songwriters and a big name producer for what became Blow up Your Video. For the next album they hired Bon Jovi's producer....

[Psychobolia.com]

Fuckers can't spell, it's MAIN Attraction.

[StateOfShock]

"Livin' On The Edge" from Big Game should have been a single. That song has a great sing-along chorus.

I've always thought that too. Probably would have been a smarter first single.

I also thought Lights & Thunder could have gotten some play on Mtv with a cool video. That is one of the best songs they have ever done.

[HoldenSSV]

Fuckers can't spell, it's MAIN Attraction.

Please tell me you're joking. It's hard to tell with you sometimes.

[Tommy2Tone84]

We argue the same shit every few months.

Slip of the Tongue and Heartbreak Station had the same problem: unremarkable lead singles. The follow-up power ballads were okay, but didn't match what came before on previous albums.

Whitesnake's sound felt sterile and missed the grit and crunch of the '87 album. People barely knew John Sykes. He was a name on an album, but rarely in a magazine photo and absent from the big videos. Nobody missed him. But they missed his sound.

Cinderella's sound evolved and it was still good, but Heartbreak Station is a collection of good album tracks, dull singles.

If you loved that shit, great. Enjoy it. But the general fan base wasn't on board. That's the story.

Shelter Me and Fool For Your Loving were “unremarkable.” But Love In An Elevator, Unskinny Bop, Cherry Pie, A Little Ain’t Enough, and Let’s Get! Let’s Get! Let’s Get Rawked!” were mind blowing? Gimme a break

That’s your opinion. While “formula” I liked The Deeper The Love and Now You’re Gone. Sailing Ships was a solid album track too.it should’ve been a single too. Same with Judgement Day

I also like the title track to Heartbreak Station. I like it just as much as the two that preceded it. Judging by crowd reaction from when I’ve seen them play it live and what is available on YouTube, many other fans approve. I’m not sure what your problem is.

You just described almost 100% of bands out there. Cinderella were great but they had some filler on every album.

I think what hurt WS was, the ‘87 lineup was presented to us as a band. Then we learned the soap opera surrounding the making of the album. Then we learned they were an entirely different band prior to ‘87. So it became clear it was the DC show. For real? John was all over MTV and magazines. He was in all of the Slide It In videos and then had Blue Murder. While not has high prolific as Angus Young, I’d say prior to 1992, Sykes was as well known as Vivian Campbell.

[Rocker4Real]

Heartbreak Station is one of my favorites from the Era. It took some balls for Kiefer to go deeper into down home Southern Rock.

[Bono Nettencourt]

It also tanked their career.

[Mister Freeze]

Shelter Me and Fool For Your Loving were “unremarkable.” But Love In An Elevator, Unskinny Bop, Cherry Pie, A Little Ain’t Enough, and Let’s Get! Let’s Get! Let’s Get Rawked!” were mind blowing? Gimme a break

Make a grown man cry.

[cook_jaime]

Mane Attraction is probably my favorite WL album. At the very least, I definitely go back to it more often than their other albums.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Mane Attraction is probably my favorite WL album. At the very least, I definitely go back to it more often than their other albums.

Big Game was a huge let down after Pride. I liked a few songs but it wasn’t a good album.

I tried to give MA a chance and nothing grabbed me the way Little Fighter and Radar Love did.

[SchenkerFan]

Good album, a step up after the disappointing Big Game. Too bad that was the last of Vito.