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Warmonger John Bolton compares Kash to one of Stalin’s feared secret police, which means it’s a great pick by default.
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I bet you idiots thought it was OK when the FBI was investigating "her EMAILZ!"
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:08 pm I bet you idiots thought it was OK when the FBI was investigating "her EMAILZ!"
They’re hoping he’ll declassify enough documents that they’ll be able to finally expose the giant satanic pedocult that the free-thinking maverick patriots of this country so desperately want us to believe exists.
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This'll deflate their Kashi balloon:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... den-pardon
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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dmbrocker wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:58 pm
Bono Nettencourt wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:08 pm I bet you idiots thought it was OK when the FBI was investigating "her EMAILZ!"
They’re hoping he’ll declassify enough documents that they’ll be able to finally expose the giant satanic pedocult that the free-thinking maverick patriots of this country so desperately want us to believe exists.
Ok.

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veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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All politicians lie. Biden just pardoned his gun-toting, crack smoking junkie son:

https://apnews.com/article/biden-son-hu ... wtab-en-us

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden pardoned his son, Hunter, on Sunday night, sparing the younger Biden a possible prison sentence for federal felony gun and tax convictions and reversing his past promises not to use the extraordinary powers of the presidency for the benefit of his family members.

The Democratic president had previously said he would not pardon his son or commute his sentence after his convictions in the two cases in Delaware and California. The move comes weeks before Hunter Biden was set to receive his punishment after his trial conviction in the gun case and guilty plea on tax charges, and less than two months before President-elect Donald Trump is set to return to the White House.

It caps a long-running legal saga for the younger Biden, who publicly disclosed he was under federal investigation in December 2020 — a month after his father’s 2020 victory — and casts a pall over the elder Biden’s legacy. Biden, who time and again pledged to Americans that he would restore norms and respect for the rule of law after Trump’s first term in office, ultimately used his position to help his son, breaking his public pledge to Americans that he would do no such thing.

In June, Biden categorically ruled out a pardon or commutation for his son, telling reporters as his son faced trial in the Delaware gun case, “I abide by the jury decision. I will do that and I will not pardon him.”

As recently as Nov. 8, days after Trump’s victory, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre ruled out a pardon or clemency for the younger Biden, saying, “We’ve been asked that question multiple times. Our answer stands, which is no.”

The elder Biden has publicly stood by his only living son as Hunter descended into serious drug addiction and threw his family life into turmoil, before pulling himself out in recent years. His political rivals have long used Hunter Biden’s myriad mistakes as a political cudgel against his father: in one hearing, lawmakers displayed half-naked photos of the drug addled president’s son in a seedy hotel.

And House Republicans sought to use the younger Biden’s years of questionable overseas business ventures in a since-abandoned attempt to impeach his father, who has long denied involvement in his son’s dealings or benefiting from them in any way.

In a statement released Sunday evening, Biden said, “I believe in the justice system, but as I have wrestled with this, I also believe raw politics has infected this process and it led to a miscarriage of justice.”

“The charges in his cases came about only after several of my political opponents in Congress instigated them to attack me and oppose my election,” Biden added. “No reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter’s cases can reach any other conclusion than Hunter was singled out only because he is my son.”

“I hope Americans will understand why a father and a President would come to this decision,” Biden added, claiming he made the decision this weekend. The president had spent the Thanksgiving holiday in Nantucket, Massachusetts with Hunter and his family, and was set to depart later Sunday on what may be his last foreign trip as president before leaving office on Jan. 20, 2025.

Hunter Biden was convicted in June in Delaware federal court of three felonies for purchasing a gun in 2018 when, prosecutors said, he lied on a federal form by claiming he was not illegally using or addicted to drugs.

He was set to stand trial in September in the California case accusing him of failing to pay at least $1.4 million in taxes. But he agreed to plead guilty to misdemeanor and felony charges in a surprise move hours after jury selection was set to begin.

David Weiss, the Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney in Delaware who negotiated the plea deal, was subsequently named a special counsel by Attorney General Merrick Garland to have more autonomy over the prosecution of the president’s son.

Hunter Biden said he was pleading guilty in that case to spare his family more pain and embarrassment after the gun trial aired salacious details about his struggles with a crack cocaine addiction.

The tax charges carry up to 17 years behind bars and the gun charges are punishable by up to 25 years in prison, though federal sentencing guidelines were expected to call for far less time and it was possible he would avoid prison time entirely.

Hunter Biden was supposed to be sentenced this month in the two federal cases, which the special counsel brought after a plea deal with prosecutors that likely would have spared him prison time fell apart under scrutiny by a judge. Under the original deal, Hunter was supposed to plead guilty to misdemeanor tax offenses and and would have avoided prosecution in the gun case as long as he stayed out of trouble for two years.

But the plea hearing quickly unraveled last year when the judge raised concerns about unusual aspects of the deal. He was subsequently indicted in the two cases.

The sweeping pardon covers not just those offenses, but also any other “offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024.”

Hunter Biden’s legal team this weekend released a 52-page white paper titled “The political prosecutions of Hunter Biden,” describing the president’s son as a “surrogate to attack and injure his father, both as a candidate in 2020 and later as president.” Hunter Biden’s lawyers have long argued that prosecutors bowed to political pressure to indict the president’s son amid heavy criticism by Trump and other Republicans of what they called the “sweetheart” plea deal.

Both cases against the younger Biden were somewhat unusual. Criminal tax cases generally are rare, legal experts have said, and the gun offenses are usually brought alongside other more serious charges. In Hunter Biden’s case, his lawyers noted that he had the gun for 11 days and never fired it. And the back taxes he owed were repaid before he was supposed to stand trial.

Rep. James Comer, one of the Republican chairmen leading congressional investigations into Biden’s family, blasted the president’s decision to issue his son a pardon, saying that the evidence against Hunter was “just the tip of the iceberg.”

“It’s unfortunate that, rather than come clean about their decades of wrongdoing, President Biden and his family continue to do everything they can to avoid accountability,” Comer said on X, the website formerly known as Twitter.

Biden is hardly the first president to deploy his pardon powers to benefit those close to him.

In his final weeks in office, Trump pardoned Charles Kushner, the father of his son-in law, Jared Kushner, as well as multiple allies convicted in special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Trump over the weekend announced plans to nominate the elder Kushner to be the U.S. envoy to France in his next administration.

Steven Cheung, a spokesperson for Trump, who has pledged to dramatically overhaul and install loyalists across the Justice Department after he was prosecuted for his role in trying to subvert the 2020 presidential election, said in a statement, “That system of justice must be fixed and due process must be restored for all Americans, which is exactly what President Trump will do as he returns to the White House with an overwhelming mandate from the American people.”

Hunter Biden said in an emailed statement that he will never take for granted the relief granted to him and vowed to devote the life he has rebuilt “to helping those who are still sick and suffering.”

“I have admitted and taken responsibility for my mistakes during the darkest days of my addiction – mistakes that have been exploited to publicly humiliate and shame me and my family for political sport,” the younger Biden said.

Hunter Biden’s legal team filed Sunday night in both Los Angeles and Delaware asking the judges handling his gun and tax cases to immediately dismiss them, citing the pardon.

A spokesperson for Weiss did not respond to messages seeking comment Sunday night.
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:29 pm
dmbrocker wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:58 pm
Bono Nettencourt wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:08 pm I bet you idiots thought it was OK when the FBI was investigating "her EMAILZ!"
They’re hoping he’ll declassify enough documents that they’ll be able to finally expose the giant satanic pedocult that the free-thinking maverick patriots of this country so desperately want us to believe exists.
Ok.

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Fake news! Photoshopped! Everyone knows only Murica-hating commie Marxist Librul Demz get to be in the pedocult, not god-fearin' Jeebus-loving right-wingers like Trumpy.
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dmbrocker wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:58 pm They’re hoping he’ll declassify enough documents that they’ll be able to finally expose the giant satanic pedocult that the free-thinking maverick patriots of this country so desperately want us to believe exists.
In the meantime Matt Gaetz is fucking 17 year olds on air hockey tables but ok.
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Lobo wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:09 pm In his final weeks in office, Trump pardoned Charles Kushner, the father of his son-in law, Jared Kushner, as well as multiple allies convicted in special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Trump over the weekend announced plans to nominate the elder Kushner to be the U.S. envoy to France in his next administration.
You forgot to cut this part out.
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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I see that Trump emptied his colostomy bag again to give us another turd for his cabinet. :roll:
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I love that Biden pulls a mildly Trumpian move and all the tards clutch their pearls like he admitted wanting to fuck his daughter or something.

Trump brought the dignity bar down. But of course democrats are expected to stay in line. :lol: Get ready for some turnabout, Trumpies. The more, the better.
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killdrum wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:01 am
exitflagger wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:04 am I love that Biden pulls a mildly Trumpian move and all the tards clutch their pearls like he admitted wanting to fuck his daughter or something.

Trump brought the dignity bar down. But of course democrats are expected to stay in line. :lol: Get ready for some turnabout, Trumpies. The more, the better.
This is a win for conservatives. There is no downside policy wise. There are no Americans that are hurt by Hunter being pardoned. But it is clear evidence that there shall be NO QUARTER in the coming administration. The left only understands power, so the Trump admin should use every bit of power it has to force through it's agenda. Turnabout? Oh it's going to be.
After years of Biden impeachment failure, good luck.
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killdrum wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:55 am Image
Irrelevant. Read about the Samoan Measles Outbreak and who was responsible for it right here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... k-vaccines
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TravisBicklesMohawk wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:47 am
killdrum wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:55 am Image
Irrelevant. Read about the Samoan Measles Outbreak and who was responsible for it right here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... k-vaccines
Brain worm guy. :lol:
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:20 am
Lobo wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:09 pm In his final weeks in office, Trump pardoned Charles Kushner, the father of his son-in law, Jared Kushner, as well as multiple allies convicted in special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Trump over the weekend announced plans to nominate the elder Kushner to be the U.S. envoy to France in his next administration.
You forgot to cut this part out.
Well...I don't see anything about Trump saying he was never going to pardon those people...and then do it. Like Joe Biden did.

Trump has lied about all kinds of shit but not when it came to the pardons.

They're politicians, they lie, it's what they do.

Trump has been screwing people over in business deals for decades, just ask the small businesses that did work on his real estate projects in the past, the guy refused to pay contractors for the work they did and told them "sue me" if you want your money.

And Biden is a career, life long politician, screwing over the general public for decades in Government office while lining his own pockets. These politicos enter office worth a couple hundred grand and before you know it are worth tens of millions. Nancy Pelosi is a good example, I'm sure there are many others on both sides of the aisle.

The Ukraine debacle was a sleazebag business move too. Biden having his son put on the board of an energy company LOL what qualifications does Hunter have serving on an energy company board in Eastern Europe...nothing! 10% goes to the "big guy" remember that?

They all lie it's what they do and the system is set up in a way that not only condones it but encourages it.

I was just pointing out that when one side calls the other the devil incarnate they might want to look at themselves as well and not be so holier than thou.
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Lobo wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:39 am
Bono Nettencourt wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:20 am
Lobo wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:09 pm In his final weeks in office, Trump pardoned Charles Kushner, the father of his son-in law, Jared Kushner, as well as multiple allies convicted in special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Trump over the weekend announced plans to nominate the elder Kushner to be the U.S. envoy to France in his next administration.
You forgot to cut this part out.
Well...I don't see anything about Trump saying he was never going to pardon those people...and then do it. Like Joe Biden did.

Trump has lied about all kinds of shit but not when it came to the pardons.

They're politicians, they lie, it's what they do.

Trump has been screwing people over in business deals for decades, just ask the small businesses that did work on his real estate projects in the past, the guy refused to pay contractors for the work they did and told them "sue me" if you want your money.

And Biden is a career, life long politician, screwing over the general public for decades in Government office while lining his own pockets. These politicos enter office worth a couple hundred grand and before you know it are worth tens of millions. Nancy Pelosi is a good example, I'm sure there are many others on both sides of the aisle.

The Ukraine debacle was a sleazebag business move too. Biden having his son put on the board of an energy company LOL what qualifications does Hunter have serving on an energy company board in Eastern Europe...nothing! 10% goes to the "big guy" remember that?

They all lie it's what they do and the system is set up in a way that not only condones it but encourages it.

I was just pointing out that when one side calls the other the devil incarnate they might want to look at themselves as well and not be so holier than thou.
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2021 looks like a scientist. 2025 looks like a bouncer at a gay bar. Some people see that as an improvement. 😀
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Danzig in the Dark wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:14 am
Lobo wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:39 am
Bono Nettencourt wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:20 am

You forgot to cut this part out.
Well...I don't see anything about Trump saying he was never going to pardon those people...and then do it. Like Joe Biden did.

Trump has lied about all kinds of shit but not when it came to the pardons.

They're politicians, they lie, it's what they do.

Trump has been screwing people over in business deals for decades, just ask the small businesses that did work on his real estate projects in the past, the guy refused to pay contractors for the work they did and told them "sue me" if you want your money.

And Biden is a career, life long politician, screwing over the general public for decades in Government office while lining his own pockets. These politicos enter office worth a couple hundred grand and before you know it are worth tens of millions. Nancy Pelosi is a good example, I'm sure there are many others on both sides of the aisle.

The Ukraine debacle was a sleazebag business move too. Biden having his son put on the board of an energy company LOL what qualifications does Hunter have serving on an energy company board in Eastern Europe...nothing! 10% goes to the "big guy" remember that?

They all lie it's what they do and the system is set up in a way that not only condones it but encourages it.

I was just pointing out that when one side calls the other the devil incarnate they might want to look at themselves as well and not be so holier than thou.
Nancy Pelosi married a rich guy. You need to do better.
He can't.
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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Charles Sykes/MSNBC:
“Smart person texts me: ‘Joe Biden has just removed the issue of pardons from the political arena for the next four years and Trump probably once again can’t believe his own dumb fucking luck at this point.’

Sadly, I think he’s right.”
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Danzig in the Dark wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:07 am
killdrum wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:01 am
exitflagger wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:04 am I love that Biden pulls a mildly Trumpian move and all the tards clutch their pearls like he admitted wanting to fuck his daughter or something.

Trump brought the dignity bar down. But of course democrats are expected to stay in line. :lol: Get ready for some turnabout, Trumpies. The more, the better.
This is a win for conservatives. There is no downside policy wise. There are no Americans that are hurt by Hunter being pardoned. But it is clear evidence that there shall be NO QUARTER in the coming administration. The left only understands power, so the Trump admin should use every bit of power it has to force through it's agenda. Turnabout? Oh it's going to be.
After years of Biden impeachment failure, good luck.
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veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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Nate S Axel wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:30 pm Charles Sykes/MSNBC:
“Smart person texts me: ‘Joe Biden has just removed the issue of pardons from the political arena for the next four years and Trump probably once again can’t believe his own dumb fucking luck at this point.’

Sadly, I think he’s right.”
:lol: As if Donnie Dickweed wasn't going to run amuck either way.

Yeah that's it... Hunter being in or out of prison is the skeleton key to putting Trump in a chokehold for 4 years. ROFL!!!

It's like you idiots don't even know who he is yet. Maybe in another four years after ten more impeachments?
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Danzig in the Dark wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:14 am
Lobo wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:39 am
Bono Nettencourt wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:20 am

You forgot to cut this part out.
Well...I don't see anything about Trump saying he was never going to pardon those people...and then do it. Like Joe Biden did.

Trump has lied about all kinds of shit but not when it came to the pardons.

They're politicians, they lie, it's what they do.

Trump has been screwing people over in business deals for decades, just ask the small businesses that did work on his real estate projects in the past, the guy refused to pay contractors for the work they did and told them "sue me" if you want your money.

And Biden is a career, life long politician, screwing over the general public for decades in Government office while lining his own pockets. These politicos enter office worth a couple hundred grand and before you know it are worth tens of millions. Nancy Pelosi is a good example, I'm sure there are many others on both sides of the aisle.

The Ukraine debacle was a sleazebag business move too. Biden having his son put on the board of an energy company LOL what qualifications does Hunter have serving on an energy company board in Eastern Europe...nothing! 10% goes to the "big guy" remember that?

They all lie it's what they do and the system is set up in a way that not only condones it but encourages it.

I was just pointing out that when one side calls the other the devil incarnate they might want to look at themselves as well and not be so holier than thou.
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He needs to marry a richer guy?
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:35 am
Danzig in the Dark wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:14 am
Lobo wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:39 am

Well...I don't see anything about Trump saying he was never going to pardon those people...and then do it. Like Joe Biden did.

Trump has lied about all kinds of shit but not when it came to the pardons.

They're politicians, they lie, it's what they do.

Trump has been screwing people over in business deals for decades, just ask the small businesses that did work on his real estate projects in the past, the guy refused to pay contractors for the work they did and told them "sue me" if you want your money.

And Biden is a career, life long politician, screwing over the general public for decades in Government office while lining his own pockets. These politicos enter office worth a couple hundred grand and before you know it are worth tens of millions. Nancy Pelosi is a good example, I'm sure there are many others on both sides of the aisle.

The Ukraine debacle was a sleazebag business move too. Biden having his son put on the board of an energy company LOL what qualifications does Hunter have serving on an energy company board in Eastern Europe...nothing! 10% goes to the "big guy" remember that?

They all lie it's what they do and the system is set up in a way that not only condones it but encourages it.

I was just pointing out that when one side calls the other the devil incarnate they might want to look at themselves as well and not be so holier than thou.
Nancy Pelosi married a rich guy. You need to do better.
He can't.
They married in 1963, they met when they were students.

From wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Pelosi

Pelosi's success in stock trading attracted media attention in the summer of 2021, leading to efforts to strictly control individual stock ownership by members of Congress.

Again, you guys seem to think that corruption only occurs on the Republican side of the aisle. If you truly defend people like Biden or Pelosi there's nothing I can say that will make you think objectionably.

They don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. You can add Trump to the list as well. They don't give a fuck about you, none of them do...at all.

They all suck. To believe otherwise is just plain stupid.
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killdrum wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:51 pm
Love_Industry wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:19 am 2021 looks like a scientist. 2025 looks like a bouncer at a gay bar. Some people see that as an improvement. 😀
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You think the guy dressed like a woman looks like a scientist? Holy fuck. lol
At least you agree that 2025 looks like a homosexual man doing a low skilled job.
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Lobo wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:39 am
Bono Nettencourt wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:20 am
Lobo wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:09 pm In his final weeks in office, Trump pardoned Charles Kushner, the father of his son-in law, Jared Kushner, as well as multiple allies convicted in special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Trump over the weekend announced plans to nominate the elder Kushner to be the U.S. envoy to France in his next administration.
You forgot to cut this part out.
Well...I don't see anything about Trump saying he was never going to pardon those people...and then do it. Like Joe Biden did.

Trump has lied about all kinds of shit but not when it came to the pardons.

They're politicians, they lie, it's what they do.

Trump has been screwing people over in business deals for decades, just ask the small businesses that did work on his real estate projects in the past, the guy refused to pay contractors for the work they did and told them "sue me" if you want your money.

And Biden is a career, life long politician, screwing over the general public for decades in Government office while lining his own pockets. These politicos enter office worth a couple hundred grand and before you know it are worth tens of millions. Nancy Pelosi is a good example, I'm sure there are many others on both sides of the aisle.

The Ukraine debacle was a sleazebag business move too. Biden having his son put on the board of an energy company LOL what qualifications does Hunter have serving on an energy company board in Eastern Europe...nothing! 10% goes to the "big guy" remember that?

They all lie it's what they do and the system is set up in a way that not only condones it but encourages it.

I was just pointing out that when one side calls the other the devil incarnate they might want to look at themselves as well and not be so holier than thou.
Except this is Donald friggin’ Drumpf we’re talking about here, and compared to him the Dems for all their faults have about a bazillion different levels of moral high ground.
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He's another both siding Trumpite whose unabomber manifestos are best ignored.
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dmbrocker wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:53 pm
Lobo wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:39 am
Bono Nettencourt wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:20 am

You forgot to cut this part out.
Well...I don't see anything about Trump saying he was never going to pardon those people...and then do it. Like Joe Biden did.

Trump has lied about all kinds of shit but not when it came to the pardons.

They're politicians, they lie, it's what they do.

Trump has been screwing people over in business deals for decades, just ask the small businesses that did work on his real estate projects in the past, the guy refused to pay contractors for the work they did and told them "sue me" if you want your money.

And Biden is a career, life long politician, screwing over the general public for decades in Government office while lining his own pockets. These politicos enter office worth a couple hundred grand and before you know it are worth tens of millions. Nancy Pelosi is a good example, I'm sure there are many others on both sides of the aisle.

The Ukraine debacle was a sleazebag business move too. Biden having his son put on the board of an energy company LOL what qualifications does Hunter have serving on an energy company board in Eastern Europe...nothing! 10% goes to the "big guy" remember that?

They all lie it's what they do and the system is set up in a way that not only condones it but encourages it.

I was just pointing out that when one side calls the other the devil incarnate they might want to look at themselves as well and not be so holier than thou.
Except this is Donald friggin’ Drumpf we’re talking about here, and compared to him the Dems for all their faults have about a bazillion different levels of moral high ground.
We are talking politics. Morals aren't a part of the equation in any shape or form.

Lie, steal, cheat. It's all fair game and out in the open now.

If this was pre-1990's then yes, "morals" had to be considered if you wanted to get elected. Remember Gary Hart? Didn't get the nomination because of a suspected extra-marital affair. Only to be followed up by none other than squeaky clean? Bill Clinton LOL. But it's 2024 now. The game has changed. The legacy media is no longer trusted to enoint the next leader in waiting. Back then you had ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, the newspapers (New York Times etc.) and that's about it. They DECIDED EVERYTHING.

George W. Bush and the "hanging chads" ballots in Florida, remember that? They fed the alligators a bunch of rotten ballots in Florida that helped Bush beat Gore. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Now? podcasts, blogs, YouTube influencers etc. can make or break a career in politics...or anything media related. The game has changed.

Maybe a two party system isn't the way to go.

Mind you, it hasn't really helped other countries that have 3, 4 or more.

I will now go back to arguing why Iron Maiden is a better band than Judas Priest.
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Lobo wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:08 pm
Now? podcasts, blogs, YouTube influencers etc. can make or break a career in politics...or anything media related. The game has changed.
This. The internet is for old people now so it's all about news, politics and shopping. And the occasional dinosaur rock band. It's in the same maturity phase TV was in the 1990s. Highly influential but past its peak.

And those old people? Those who were 15-45 when it became mainstream are 45-75 now. We grew up with the internet.
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Lobo wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:08 pm Maybe a two party system isn't the way to go.
I don't tnink the winner takes all two party system does a good job representing its people either. From the center to the fringes, theres way too many people for each party to cater to.

Lobo wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:40 pm there's nothing I can say that will make you think objectionably.
I objectively object this statement.
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Cry me a river.

Trump pardoned a host of co-conspirators and his daughter's father-in-law and then named him ambassador.

The faux outrage from the right became a joke a long time ago.
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