It's been a week now...can we all admit...(Ozzy/Sabbath)

[Wiseacre]

...that in hindsight this show was more or less awful to depressing?

Yes, I said it.

I'm a huge Sabbath fan and early Ozzy too, but the majority of the performances either had zero to do with either of those things or were utterly destroyed by bad vocals. Even the "Changes" version wasn't 1/2 as OMFG-great as a ton of people seemed to think. The guy can yell high. Aside from that, it was not really fantastic by any stretch.

The excitemtn/vibe of the event was cool and the sentiment was good, I suppose, but the show overall was a cluster of sub-par performances. While most of the music was decent to nearly-great and the drummers killed it across the board, collectively, I doubt many people will be listening to any of this more than a time or two. Will there be an official release of this? Would anyone actually listen to it again?

Nuno gets a gold star and was MVP for all the heavy lifting he did (even while staying low-key and not show-boating), but some of the performances sounded embarrassingly amateurish. Ozzy is not Halford or Tate, but he does/did have a deceptively high range and of course a unique style which fit especially the Sabbath stuff perfectly. I would expect some of the best singers around to struggle with pulling off Freddie's song, but Ozzy? I've heard bar bands for decades do this stuff flawlessly. It's actually odd how many famous singers can't sing anything they didn't write or that wasn't written for them (I'm guilty too, but not famous so FU).

There was WAY too much non-Ozzy/Sabbath music throughout. Steven Tyler sounded surprisingly good for his age, but what does him singing "Walk This Way" have to do with anything really? Or a bunch of Slayer songs or GnR or Tool songs? Because they were Sabbath fans I suppose. Then why not at least play stuff that shows those influences and not just your "popular" songs? The Sabbath and Ozzy covers all seemed like an afterthought thrown in out of obligation in order to be included in this huge event. I'm sure many or most of those musicians were fans, but you could barely tell a lot of the time. The Ozzy/Sabbath stuff should have been the main focus. Not 3 or 4 greatest hits and then "oh, here's a bad version of _____ we threw together this week". There were a couple of exceptions, of course, like Metallica, but they were always known for pretty damn great covers.

Then there is Ozzy/Sabbath. Lord God, was Ozzy horrible in real life. YES, I GET IT, but it's borderline(?) humiliating to have him do so much if he is basically the walking dead. WTF? It's worse than Frankie Valli because Frankie's handlers aren't doing it in front of zillions around the world. I'm assuming Ozzy was a willing participant, but at a certain point we don't let grampa make the big decisions for himself anymore, right? This whole thing obviously felt like more of a tribute to (dying?) Ozzy than Sabbath as a band and I personally think it should have ended with Ozzy solo instead of Sabbath. I get the "back to the beginning" marketing angle, but Sabbath sounded beyond horrible after Ozzy used up his 10 seconds of energy on his solo stuff. The band was fine (especially Geezer), but Ozzy was crazily bad. Again, I get it, but it's like putting a 70-year-old boxing champ in the ring "one more time" (so WE can relive a bit of OUR OWN youth) to see him beaten and humiliated in front of the world. "Remembering" or "honoring" Ozzy shouldn't have been a carnival side-show, IMO. It's like the old version of the stage moms who tell their tin-eared daughters that they are "superstars" only to see them decimated publicly by the judges on American Idol for their obvious lack of ability. I think having Ozzy off to the side like the opposite of a roast watching musicians honor him without the pressure of doing what everyone knows he can't do would have been a MUCH more respectful move. This whole show felt more like "look how great WE are and oh yeah, some of us were also Sabbath fans". I think it was more about people wanting to "see Ozzy live" one more time before their own youth disappears altogether. It looked selfish.

Another thing is the "depressing" part. I'm an aging metal guy myself and I know lots of us can "still do it", but there is an old adage that says, "just because you can, doesn't mean you should". I'm not talking about middle-aged guys here, I'm talking about fucking elderly people playing music primarily BY and FOR young males. There is just something very depressing about an all-white-haired Slayer with Tom looking like someone just woke grandpa up from an after-dinner Thanksgiving nap. Yes, they sounded good, but still. I remember joking with my own band at our 2019 reunion gig that we were all older than our own parents were back when we all were doing this shit for real. I told them to imagine our dads (back then) up on stage doing this show to illustrate the absurdity of it all. NO, it should be against the law, but it is just odd as hell. Old McCartney is one thing, and guys in the 40s or early 50s maybe, but senior citizens playing thrash is just bizarre to me. Steven Tyler looked like "cool grandma" dressed up as a "rocker" for Halloween, ffs.

Good for Jake E. Lee for being given some of the spotlight that Sharon (that cunt) tried so hard to snuff out. There were definitely a couple really good performances too, but in the end, this was more Ozzfest than Ozzy tribute.

Bring the hate or be adult enough to admit this was a shitshow of epic proportions. And save the "shouldn't people be allowed to do what they want????" horseshit too. Of course, they can do what they want even if it is ridiculous/laughable. While it might be fun to get an autograph from your favorite '80s porn star, that doesn't mean you want to see them fucking at 60 or 70. There just comes a time, IMO.

[Bono Nettencourt]

Docked a point for being a superfan of a band that has similarly long lost its mojo.

[Nate S Axel]

LAglamrocker isn't reading all of that. Let ChatGPT shorten it to two paragraphs at most.

[Wiseacre]

Docked a point for being a superfan of a band that has similarly long lost its mojo.

??? KISS?

[LAglamrocker]

It’s been less than a day since I returned from non Green Jello show day

No Green Jello no problem
Breakfast burroto in San Clemente
Drove more- listened to Electric Boys and Bulletboys
Arrived in Carsbad(CarlsGOOD)
Parked- stalked family as The Demon
Kept walking 2 miles..downtown Carlsbad- sunny awesome
Walked back to my Batmobile
Arrived at Ocean Beach- ranch burger- onion rings- Dr Pepper refill- hot cashier (female)liked my demon satanic symbol wallet- she had tattoo of same symbol
Ringside view of beach boardwalk
Macho Man action doll kept me company
Drove to Lajolla- sat in my beach chair 8 hours
Pacers pussy
Drove ..back to the beach ..fell asleep watching Back To The Beach in neighbors patio chair

Black Sabbath is pretty much garbage any week
Bill Goldberg loves Black Sabbath I bet

Reading paragraphs always been a drag..not my life

[Wiseacre]

It’s been less than a day since I returned from non Green Jello show day

No Green Jello no problem
Breakfast burroto in San Clemente
Drove more- listened to Electric Boys and Bulletboys
Arrived in Carsbad(CarlsGOOD)
Parked- stalked family as The Demon
Kept walking 2 miles..downtown Carlsbad- sunny awesome
Walked back to my Batmobile
Arrived at Ocean Beach- ranch burger- onion rings- Dr Pepper refill- hot cashier (female)liked my demon satanic symbol wallet- she had tattoo of same symbol
Ringside view of beach boardwalk
Macho Man action doll kept me company
Drove to Lajolla- sat in my beach chair 8 hours
Pacers pussy
Drove ..back to the beach ..fell asleep watching Back To The Beach in neighbors patio chair

Black Sabbath is pretty much garbage any week
Bill Goldberg loves Black Sabbath I bet

Reading paragraphs always been a drag..not my life

Thanks for sharing *cough cough*

[Demon Kogure]

Been trying to keep up with all the fan opinions and little behind-the-scenes stories over the past week, and it seems like most people don't know and/or don't care that they fixed Ozzy's vocals in the two-hour delay between the event and the stream. I fully expected the fixes, but it still seems wrong, the blatant deception of it

[Wiseacre]

Been trying to keep up with all the fan opinions and little behind-the-scenes stories over the past week, and it seems like most people don't know and/or don't care that they fixed Ozzy's vocals in the two-hour delay between the event and the stream. I fully expected the fixes, but it still seems wrong, the blatant deception of it

It was weird because someone sent a clip of Ozzy singing Crazy Train live (audience phone video, so not edited or dubbed) as it was happening and he really didn't sound too bad at all in the bit I saw, but he must have run out of steam quickly because when it watched the sets later it was abysmal. The audience was also YELLING the words along, but I could still hear him.

[HueyRamone]

I had fun watching the clips last week.

• Ozzy's such a legend, that doing this was better than not doing it.
• Lizzy Hale and Steven Tyler were amazing. KK did great, Slayer did great, Jake did pretty bad, but still cool to see him. Sammy Hagar looked like a fat fool who didnt do his homework. Mickey Mouse sounded terrible on the Sab stuff.
• Billy Corgan was a crime against all that's holy and should not have been allowed to sing, even if he is a name. Just like Kiss wasnt allowed to perform at the HOF with scabs, they should have told Billy to get his guitar on, or tape a mesage of greeting.
• I would dispute OPs assertion that 'Any bar band singer can do Ozzy' Oz has a high and unique voice so not surprised some of the singers couldn't cut it. Most people I've seen and heard cant do it. Halford fronting Sabbath in '92 sounded great on the Dio and bad on the Sabbath (though I thought their War Pigs from last week sounded good)

Everyone's getting a little too old, but this is kind of a bookend on an era. Who else could pull off a grand finale of a career like this? Maybe Metallica?

I think it's amusing that Sabbath had Metallica and GnR in a soccer stadium, and Kiss has Black and Blue and Kuarintine in a shitty off the strip hotel.

[Wiseacre]

• I would dispute OPs assertion that 'Any bar band singer can do Ozzy'

That's not what I said. I actually said Ozzy..."does/did have a deceptively high range and of course a unique style...I've heard bar bands for decades do this stuff flawlessly." I did not say that ANY bar band singer can do it. You'd certainly think some of the most famous metal singers in the world could too.

[ParaDime77]

100% correct.

It is a guy with a manipulative manger (wife) that has repeatedly put Ozzy on stage for literal decades “retiring.” Now the paying public has to do this again, paying hard earned money under another Sharon contrived gimmick. Just because the guys can take the stage barely doesn’t mean it should ever happen again. The event 7 days later has now surpassed all of the clicks, podcasts and typical ballwashing. Watching a once big time artist in a fucking chair should never happen. People cried out in negativity about Phil Collin and Nancy Wilson attempting to perform in a chair. So Ozzy should get a free pass and begin a whole new tour? A lot of hardcore fans out there have their own greed in mind before thinking about the prop singer they see on stage to identify with.

[Hatchets Molly]

I think it's amusing that Sabbath had Metallica and GnR in a soccer stadium, and Kiss has Black and Blue and Kuarintine in a shitty off the strip hotel.

But it’s fitting, poetic justice, ain’t it?

[HottKarl777]

Yeah I agree with most of that. The concert had a weird, sad vibe.

I blame the fans though. People seem to think 80 is the new retirement age for rockers when it should be 50. This dipshit social media phone culture is all about the selfie at the show. That's the important thing, to let all your beaten down sad middle age friends know that you're still writing another "chapter" in your story. Like they care.

[SterileEyes1]

Thought it was awesome, the audience certainly seemed to be enjoying themselves, it was a once in a lifetime event, and it made me happy to watch. I thought all the bands put in good effort to learn the Sabbath covers. It was cool to see all the bands hanging behind the scenes.

If it makes me “not adult enough” to have enjoyed that, neat, I guess. You make the rules apparently.

[Wiseacre]

Thought it was awesome, the audience certainly seemed to be enjoying themselves, it was a once in a lifetime event, and it made me happy to watch. I thought all the bands put in good effort to learn the Sabbath covers. It was cool to see all the bands hanging behind the scenes.

If it makes me “not adult enough” to have enjoyed that, neat, I guess. You make the rules apparently.

I say over and over it is just my opinion. I’m not making rules for anyone. Glad you enjoyed it.

[JamesHetfieldsAcneScars]

Jake did pretty bad, but still cool to see him.

What part did he do bad on other than the solo on shot in the dark?