Jesus Vince
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Jesus Vince
I just watched the Wildside clip from Vince's show a few days ago. NO WAY will that guy be around in a couple years. Jesus. And Motley is going to go out and do shows? Nikki is good with that? I get a paycheck it a paycheck but no way are they not embarrassed with a performance like that. And I was a massive fan when I was 16 during the Shout years.
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Re: Jesus Vince
Possible "traditional" health issues aside, he looks totally on something. Anti-depressants, alcohol, IDK. He appears half-asleep, mumbling, off key. This has to be more than health.
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Re: Jesus Vince
If the past few decades are any indication, they are not embarrassed in the slightest.
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Re: Jesus Vince
Def something else going on, but he is Dokken toast
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Tmfr3sMqA
Prior to his med issue, not as slow, seems more on point, My guess is, he had a stroke of some sort?
Prior to his med issue, not as slow, seems more on point, My guess is, he had a stroke of some sort?
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Re: Jesus Vince
I would guess hes on pills.
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His eyes are different, moves different, no energy … it does appear something neurological because if it’d been a heart attack he’d lost 100 pounds, he’d been in cardiac rehab during the last year and he’d be in pretty good shape by now.
BUT liver disease can also cause neurological symptoms too … so who the F knows … could’ve been Covid.
BUT liver disease can also cause neurological symptoms too … so who the F knows … could’ve been Covid.
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Full show with closeups
https://youtu.be/FXZgW4zHX5s
https://youtu.be/FXZgW4zHX5s
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Ive worked some Motley, I mean Powerbook(!), shows and just wow.
Jokes aside this dude should NOT be out there - Needs to forget about all those connected to his paycheck
and just get healthy.
Def something here is "off"........
Jokes aside this dude should NOT be out there - Needs to forget about all those connected to his paycheck
and just get healthy.
Def something here is "off"........
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Re: Jesus Vince
Benzos aka Valium guaranteed
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We're getting close to the "tapes" phase of Artists who Shouldn't Be Out There Syndrome.
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Re: Jesus Vince
He’d have to be on a shit ton. I take 1mg of Klonopin a day for a chronic neuropathy issue (yes, they are used for other things besides anxiety - which is also helpful for me) and it does nothing in terms of making me tired or zombie-ing me out. Plenty of energy. That’s double digit mg effects with Vince.
Re: Jesus Vince
Morons will line up to shell out top dollar to watch this garbage so yes a Motley tour will happen.
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Bret actually stated that Vince (like himself had) is dealing with some kind of brain issue.....so its probably a stroke that happened.
Hes getting out there as is because I believe he's being pressured by Nikki to do the residency
Hes getting out there as is because I believe he's being pressured by Nikki to do the residency
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It occurred to me today--I don't know why I think about this stuff, I got a busy mind and a boring job--that people aren't paying to see a rock band. They're paying to see the band from The Dirt in person and to make the illusion complete, those men have to perform music on stage.
Now, I'm not saying there's this enormous demand from the movie, or even really the book. It's "Hon, let's go see Motley Crue while we're in Vegas and dress up like 80's rockers for a night and stick out our tongues for Instagram photos."
They know this and that's why half the guys on stage put in ZERO effort. Why would they? Why would Vince ever stop drinking if the paycheck's the exact same either way?
And I honestly think Nikki's justification is "The Sex Pistols were also a terrible live band." That makes me so nuts I can't even describe it. That thing I just made up.
Now, I'm not saying there's this enormous demand from the movie, or even really the book. It's "Hon, let's go see Motley Crue while we're in Vegas and dress up like 80's rockers for a night and stick out our tongues for Instagram photos."
They know this and that's why half the guys on stage put in ZERO effort. Why would they? Why would Vince ever stop drinking if the paycheck's the exact same either way?
And I honestly think Nikki's justification is "The Sex Pistols were also a terrible live band." That makes me so nuts I can't even describe it. That thing I just made up.

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Motley Crue as a "live band" has been a lethargic shit show for well over a decade, it's not like the latest with Vince is a dramatic overall decline.
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Ok Vince did 3 shows in 3 days … the 3rd show while not great was much better than the first.
No doubt it was a stroke, at the beginning of Dr.Feelgood you can see his mouth moving like a person that has had a stroke … good for him for getting back out there and not giving up.
https://youtu.be/FXZgW4zHX5s?si=0kjNqlrusv3T01mo
No doubt it was a stroke, at the beginning of Dr.Feelgood you can see his mouth moving like a person that has had a stroke … good for him for getting back out there and not giving up.
https://youtu.be/FXZgW4zHX5s?si=0kjNqlrusv3T01mo
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Yeah it’s baffling to me. People don’t care who’s in the band, if there’s any original members left, if it’s a 100% cover band like Lynyrd Skynyrd or Foreigner, if they’re singing or mumbling, if they’re lip syncing to backing tracks, if the keys are dropped 2 steps….they just keep buying tickets so that’s why this shit will never stop
Re: Jesus Vince
Wow! If I had to choose who is worse live, Vince or Don, it would be toss up. You can tell that Vince's band is working extra hard to bring the energy since Vince clearly can't/won't.
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The third show is better stop watching the first, it was an anomaly.
I guess he could’ve had an aneurysm … something like that .. whatever it was he’s lucky to be alive like Bret.
I guess he could’ve had an aneurysm … something like that .. whatever it was he’s lucky to be alive like Bret.
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100% not normal, his eyes are different, it's like he is looking into the horizon, goneJason Jennifer Leigh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 5:49 pm Ok Vince did 3 shows in 3 days … the 3rd show while not great was much better than the first.
No doubt it was a stroke, at the beginning of Dr.Feelgood you can see his mouth moving like a person that has had a stroke … good for him for getting back out there and not giving up.
https://youtu.be/FXZgW4zHX5s?si=0kjNqlrusv3T01mo
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Re: Jesus Vince
I watched the whole clip from last night. And it wasn’t that horrible. There has definitely been worse performances than that.
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I felt the same, its like he is concentrating now, his voice cracks here and there but he is singing "better" than before, like he is making a concious effort now unlike before.MattleyCrue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 6:49 pm I watched the whole clip from last night. And it wasn’t that horrible. There has definitely been worse performances than that.
When he talks about his medical procedure, his voice reminded be of Jailhouse Rock Live on Girls CD. He still has the voice.