Howard Stern Show 'to be canceled' after nearly 20 years on SiriusXM

[VicStelly]

Ron and Fez Noon to 3 on XM's The Virus.

[tooth]

I'm a huge fan & have listened to most every second of every show for many years, & continue to do so. IMO, the truly defining Jump the Shark moments were the death of Eric the Actor &, to a much lesser extent, the banning of Hanzi. ETA was the last "non-yes" man to have Howard's ear & that kept Howard on his toes, to some extent. Then, shortly after Eric's death, Hanzi called, insulted Howard's daughters & got banned. It was at that point that all the "callers" were clearly plants ala Bobo, Maryanne from Brooklyn, High Pitch Eric etc., people who understood to not rock the boat.

[Tyketto Meniketti]

Speaking of Stern...

Did Jackie 'The Joke Man' Martling make the biggest (dumbest) mistake ever in Radio when he turned down $650,000.00 a year in 2001?

I just went down the Stern rabbit hole... which says Stern is worth $500M give or take, and Robin is worth $75M.

Jackie's departure was a bit of a big deal at the time, and it wasn't long after, that everyone realized how big of a fumble he just made!

While I don't follow Stern nearly as much as I used to or listen like I did in the 90's and early 2000's, but it was clear that Jackie faded quickly.

$tEvil

Yeah, you'd think he had to work WAY harder to make $650K than if he'd have just signed that contract. More reliable, predictable income versus having to scrap. Can you fathom the gigs he gets now? I suppose he can make 6 figures, but has to work/travel way more to do it.

[Fletch]

Huge fan for years and even a little while after the Artie era but I stopped being a daily listener around Covid when he did the show from his house and continued to do the show from his house. Did Didn’t need want or care to hear anything from Beth and he really did become more like Imus the past 10 years which is wild.

What I’ve read is they’re gonna make him an offer, but it’s not gonna be anywhere near what he’s been used to because again - from what I read - Sirius just doesn’t see him worth that kind of money anymore …which is true. I’m sure his Netflix show will pay well maybe not serious money well but it’ll keep him in the limelight. It’d be funny if he wind up doing podcast as much as he used to shit on all podcasts when that first started becoming a thing.

[Kid-Wicked]

is anyone reputable reporting this? just sounds like clickbait or sirius "leaking" info

[Vandermint]

Kind of a bizarre career arc. Howard became the biggest radio personality of all time, got paid hundreds of millions by Sirius ... and THEN he sold out.

Howard couldn't usually get the A listers, so he made up his own. Jessica Hahn, Gilbert Gottfried, a random stripper, Fred the Elephant Boy, his limo driver, whoever.

And after he achieved massive success, he went soft and backpedaled, seemingly because he actually did want the approval and friendship of Hollywood elites. It's like the outcast in high school finally getting to eat lunch with the cool kids senior year, except you'd think an old man who beat the system wouldn't care. It's why I don't think his anti-Trump position really has anything to do with it--that has always felt like a pose to fit in with the Hollywood crowd. Howard is still the guy who "ran" for governor of New York on a platform of bringing back the death penalty and using the corpses to fill in potholes. Whatever he is, it ain't woke.

I miss the old Howard, but like the bands we all love, the magic is long gone and isn't coming back.

[Ozzy Stradlin]

An article from The Sun, the ever-reliable news source.

[cowpins]

As for as revenue he generates, I wonder what the percentage is of people not paying the full Stern Show subscription?

[TravisBicklesMohawk]

Kind of a bizarre career arc. Howard became the biggest radio personality of all time, got paid hundreds of millions by Sirius ... and THEN he sold out.

Howard couldn't usually get the A listers, so he made up his own. Jessica Hahn, Gilbert Gottfried, a random stripper, Fred the Elephant Boy, his limo driver, whoever.

And after he achieved massive success, he went soft and backpedaled, seemingly because he actually did want the approval and friendship of Hollywood elites. It's like the outcast in high school finally getting to eat lunch with the cool kids senior year, except you'd think an old man who beat the system wouldn't care. It's why I don't think his anti-Trump position really has anything to do with it--that has always felt like a pose to fit in with the Hollywood crowd. Howard is still the guy who "ran" for governor of New York on a platform of bringing back the death penalty and using the corpses to fill in potholes. Whatever he is, it ain't woke.

I miss the old Howard, but like the bands we all love, the magic is long gone and isn't coming back.

This, plus the fact that he was always just a tiny bit jealous of Trump and his deviant lifestyle.
He'll never admit it, but it was pretty obvious the way he reacted whenever Trump bragged about spying on the young, naked girls in the dressing rooms.
He just politely acted disgusted.

[tooth]

I stopped being a daily listener around Covid when he did the show from his house and continued to do the show from his house.

Same here, other than Howard interviewing someone, nothing about the show works remotely.

[Bono Nettencourt]

As for as revenue he generates, I wonder what the percentage is of people not paying the full Stern Show subscription?

I didnt have Sirius for long, but when I did, I never paid the Stern tax.

[Nate S Axel]

Well... sounds like he's staying!
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/art ... 59634.html

Howard Stern seems to be stuck with Sirius XM for the foreseeable future!

The media personality and the company have reportedly taken a bold step in their working relationship by extending terms with a new and juicy mega deal.

Howard Stern's perceived turnaround emerges after weeks of heavy speculation that he was exiting Sirius XM for good, in search of a new and greener pasture.

A source affirmed that everything is a done deal in this regard, and all previous reports of him exiting the company were pure fallacy, per RadarOnline.

[Mister Freeze]

It’d be funny if he wind up doing podcast as much as he used to shit on all podcasts when that first started becoming a thing.

He came off as so out of touch by making fun of podcasts, which have more in common with his original outlaw spirit than being part of a homogenized industry that's run by two corporations at this point.

[Lobo]

Stern these days is completely irrelevant to the audience whose ear he had for so many years.

As some have already mentioned, Stern actually became what he was railing against for all those years. An ass-kissing apologist for the establishment.

The people that worked on his show seemed more likeable as people than he was (except for maybe Gary, the biggest ass-kisser on the planet).

IMO, Stern always came across as some kind of arrogant poseur, with fake hair (I'm positive he wears a wig) and a fake image and persona. He liked to portray himself as some kind of rebel but it was always about the money for him. I don't think integrity ever truly played a part.

The guy just always seemed like a phony to me. He had to do the outrageous stuff to get noticed and create a brand. He really wanted to be the complete opposite which is exactly what he is today, in lock-step with the establishment.

I really do think that if you ask fans of his from the past they would express extreme disappointment in what he has become today.

Everyone mellows with age I guess but the guy did a complete 180° from what he used to be.

I've had a few free 6 month subscriptions to SiriusXM over the years and never bothered listening. It's been over a decade since I bothered tuning in.

The show is self-neutered these days, it's just another Entertainment Tonight now.

[Velvis]

As for as revenue he generates, I wonder what the percentage is of people not paying the full Stern Show subscription?

Stern has been included with the normal subscription for the last 6+ months (at least when I became aware of it)

[Bono Nettencourt]

Wow. They're both hurting if that's true.

[veritas]

Jackie the Jokeman is one of the top candidates for all-time miscalculations of his career and his worth.
He was offered in the range of $700,000 in the early 2000's but rejected it as an "insult!" And as eaten shit as a result every since and I'm sure he regrets it every fucking day.

Classic example of the lack of self-insight and perspective certain people / band members get when a show/ group hits big and they start believing THEY are the key reason or a critical contributor -- when they are plainly not.

[TravisBicklesMohawk]

As for as revenue he generates, I wonder what the percentage is of people not paying the full Stern Show subscription?

Stern has been included with the normal subscription for the last 6+ months (at least when I became aware of it)

He is. I would not pay extra if he wasn't.

[Wiseacre]

Everybody making fun of Jackie needs to realize he MADE that show, basically. His quick wit was 90% of Howard’s “funny”. Jackie was a genius that lauded pretty low-key and allowed himself to be the butt of many jokes, but the show was NEVER the same without him.

The fact that Howard was gonnna get a truckload of cash from Sirius doesn’t really make his holding out for more money that ridiculous. Especially when you consider the money that annoying, talentless Robin ended up making for literally nothing other than making Howard look less “racist” or “sexist”. He didn’t even need her anymore at that point.

The reason Jackie lost out was because Howard knew the people signing him didn’t know this about his show and the deal was done. So, Howie took the cash and turned over a watered-down, barely funny and never interesting version of his show. Just like with KISS and Pophouse with Gene and Paul convincing someone that KISS wasn’t a joke for 20+ years and that virtually no one gives a shit about their music or “legacy”. Old Stern fans knew years and years ago that most of his audience had tuned out and the number of listeners he had was obviously a fraction of what he claimed, but the deal was already done by then.

Jackie should have gotten a huge payday as he definitely deserved it, but Howard only cared about how much $$$ he could dupe Sirius out of and knew he didn’t need Jackie for that.

[veritas]

Everybody making fun of Jackie needs to realize he MADE that show, basically. His quick wit was 90% of Howard’s “funny”. Jackie was a genius that lauded pretty low-key and allowed himself to be the butt of many jokes, but the show was NEVER the same without him.

He MADE that show? That's ridiculous. Howard MADE the show. Jackie helped -- but virtually no one thinks the show suddenly tanked without Jackie (and it certainly didn't). And it barely missed a beat with Artie Lange.
WTF has Jackie The Genius accomplished on his own since?

The fact that Howard was gonnna get a truckload of cash from Sirius doesn’t really make his holding out for more money that ridiculous.

Well, depends on your definition of "ridiculous." My definition is: comically overvaluing your actual negotiating leverage and worth in the marketplace. And your talent. What did Jackie earn in the marketplace thereafter? How did the Stern show fare financially without him? (see above).

The reason Jackie lost out was because Howard knew the people signing him didn’t know this about his show and the deal was done. So, Howie took the cash and turned over a watered-down, barely funny and never interesting version of his show. Just like with KISS and Pophouse with Gene and Paul convincing someone that KISS wasn’t a joke for 20+ years and that virtually no one gives a shit about their music or “legacy”. Old Stern fans knew years and years ago that most of his audience had tuned out and the number of listeners he had was obviously a fraction of what he claimed, but the deal was already done by then.

That's counter-factual. Many of the die-hards may not have liked the "watered down" version in comparison (and that includes me), but his audience remained substantial for both the remaining radio and then Sirius years (but he was sliding in ratings BEFORE Jackie left because die hards were already complaining about him becoming a celebrity and watered down after Private Parts hit. The Sirius subscriptions grew enormously -- they wouldn't have ponied over circa $100M for 20 years if he wasn't bringing in numbers.

From a business perspective, Jackie was a colossal fool --and got what he deserved: nothing.

[Wiseacre]

Everybody making fun of Jackie needs to realize he MADE that show, basically. His quick wit was 90% of Howard’s “funny”. Jackie was a genius that lauded pretty low-key and allowed himself to be the butt of many jokes, but the show was NEVER the same without him.

He MADE that show? That's ridiculous. Howard MADE the show. Jackie helped -- but virtually no one thinks the show suddenly tanked without Jackie (and it certainly didn't). And it barely missed a beat with Artie Lange.
WTF has Jackie The Genius accomplished on his own since?

The fact that Howard was gonnna get a truckload of cash from Sirius doesn’t really make his holding out for more money that ridiculous.

Well, depends on your definition of "ridiculous." My definition is: comically overvaluing your actual negotiating leverage and worth in the marketplace. And your talent. What did Jackie earn in the marketplace thereafter? How did the Stern show fare financially without him? (see above).

The reason Jackie lost out was because Howard knew the people signing him didn’t know this about his show and the deal was done. So, Howie took the cash and turned over a watered-down, barely funny and never interesting version of his show. Just like with KISS and Pophouse with Gene and Paul convincing someone that KISS wasn’t a joke for 20+ years and that virtually no one gives a shit about their music or “legacy”. Old Stern fans knew years and years ago that most of his audience had tuned out and the number of listeners he had was obviously a fraction of what he claimed, but the deal was already done by then.

That's counter-factual. Many of the die-hards may not have liked the "watered down" version in comparison (and that includes me), but his audience remained substantial for both the remaining radio and then Sirius years (but he was sliding in ratings BEFORE Jackie left because die hards were already complaining about him becoming a celebrity and watered down after Private Parts hit. The Sirius subscriptions grew enormously -- they wouldn't have ponied over circa $100M for 20 years if he wasn't bringing in numbers.

From a business perspective, Jackie was a colossal fool --and got what he deserved: nothing.

Howie couldn’t have said any of that better himself.

[LurkingAtWork]

Classic example of the lack of self-insight and perspective certain people / band members get when a show/ group hits big and they start believing THEY are the key reason or a critical contributor -- when they are plainly not.

AKA Peter Criss Syndrome. Many such cases.

[veritas]

Everybody making fun of Jackie needs to realize he MADE that show, basically. His quick wit was 90% of Howard’s “funny”. Jackie was a genius that lauded pretty low-key and allowed himself to be the butt of many jokes, but the show was NEVER the same without him.

He MADE that show? That's ridiculous. Howard MADE the show. Jackie helped -- but virtually no one thinks the show suddenly tanked without Jackie (and it certainly didn't). And it barely missed a beat with Artie Lange.
WTF has Jackie The Genius accomplished on his own since?

The fact that Howard was gonnna get a truckload of cash from Sirius doesn’t really make his holding out for more money that ridiculous.

Well, depends on your definition of "ridiculous." My definition is: comically overvaluing your actual negotiating leverage and worth in the marketplace. And your talent. What did Jackie earn in the marketplace thereafter? How did the Stern show fare financially without him? (see above).

The reason Jackie lost out was because Howard knew the people signing him didn’t know this about his show and the deal was done. So, Howie took the cash and turned over a watered-down, barely funny and never interesting version of his show. Just like with KISS and Pophouse with Gene and Paul convincing someone that KISS wasn’t a joke for 20+ years and that virtually no one gives a shit about their music or “legacy”. Old Stern fans knew years and years ago that most of his audience had tuned out and the number of listeners he had was obviously a fraction of what he claimed, but the deal was already done by then.

That's counter-factual. Many of the die-hards may not have liked the "watered down" version in comparison (and that includes me), but his audience remained substantial for both the remaining radio and then Sirius years (but he was sliding in ratings BEFORE Jackie left because die hards were already complaining about him becoming a celebrity and watered down after Private Parts hit. The Sirius subscriptions grew enormously -- they wouldn't have ponied over circa $100M for 20 years if he wasn't bringing in numbers.

From a business perspective, Jackie was a colossal fool --and got what he deserved: nothing.

Howie couldn’t have said any of that better himself.

says the man whose brain actually thought the thought "Jackie was a genius . . . he MADE that show." But rather than keep that as a bizarre (but yet still-private) brain misfire, and end that nonsense with a chuckle, went further and asked his motor cortex to fire muscle fibers to type the words "Jackie was a genius . . . he MADE that show" to an audience -- albeit an audience of the similarly head-injured people.

[tooth]

Jackie MADE the show lol funny, that's for sure, especially when Billy West was there. While Artie certainly made the show funny, it wasn't Jackie funny. Something about The Jokeman audibly handing Howard the piece of paper, Howard reading the Joke, then Jackie laughing his head off, worked.

[whammybar]

Besides becoming filthy rich, I always thought the decline came when he started getting therapy. He was able to step back and see where his cruelty came from and he lost his edge. Even though he was generally clueless about music, he had a keen insight on things and I agreed with his opinions on most topics. But if he's happier now, then I'm all for it. He gave me a million laughs through the years and I'll always remember him for that.

[veritas]

Besides becoming filthy rich, I always thought the decline came when he started getting therapy. He was able to step back and see where his cruelty came from and he lost his edge. Even though he was generally clueless about music, he had a keen insight on things and I agreed with his opinions on most topics. But if he's happier now, then I'm all for it. He gave me a million laughs through the years and I'll always remember him for that.

Look, I miss the crazy early years too. And I'm disgusted by just how FAR to the respectable, ass-kissing-of-celebrities side of the world Howard migrated toward (and his interviews are NOT that good: he constantly attempts to make ham-fisted connections to childhood/parental issues with nearly every guest, always associating HIS traumas with others').

I blame the new wife for some of this.

But I mostly blame the ravages of AGE and "MATURITY." The sad reality is that the porno star, crazed wack pack, super angry counter-cultural Stern could only last for SO long. It's a bit of young man's game, and certainly not a rich celebrity's game: it just would look pathetic and out of touch for the $100Millionaire+ in his 50s to keep doing the same stuff from the earlier years ... something had to give. Now, it could have given more in the way David Letterman aged, or Chapelle, or others who didn't entirely lose all edges or become what they mocked vs. what Stern became ....

But the passage of time is a bitch on creativity -- or at least vitality -- for most.

It's actually the same concept as the horror of Klaus Meine we are discussing in another thread: there IS a point in one's age where it just looks ridiculous to be in studded leather outfits, hats, and trying to put your "rock" on when you are a nearly crippled beyond-granpda aged dude who can barely sing, much less physically move: it makes a mockery of your wild, impassioned youthful self. To that extent, i'm semi-happy Stern isn't trying to do the same schitck as the 1980s and early 1990s...

[Tenacious_Dio]

For me, the best part of the show was when Robin did the news. They stopped doing that.

I tune in every now and then, but it's usually a repeat or Howard talking about learning guitar (which is unlistenable).

[TheCULTofMANSON]

It was that embarrassing Kamala Harris interview he did, people never went back after that.

He’ll retire and never be seen again.

Good riddance.

Facts

[murdercitydevil08]

Speaking of Stern...

Did Jackie 'The Joke Man' Martling make the biggest (dumbest) mistake ever in Radio when he turned down $650,000.00 a year in 2001?

I just went down the Stern rabbit hole... which says Stern is worth $500M give or take, and Robin is worth $75M.

Jackie's departure was a bit of a big deal at the time, and it wasn't long after, that everyone realized how big of a fumble he just made!

While I don't follow Stern nearly as much as I used to or listen like I did in the 90's and early 2000's, but it was clear that Jackie faded quickly.

$tEvil

Greedy...Hold out for more and got welfare!!!

[Wiseacre]

Jackie MADE the show lol funny, that's for sure, especially when Billy West was there. While Artie certainly made the show funny, it wasn't Jackie funny. Something about The Jokeman audibly handing Howard the piece of paper, Howard reading the Joke, then Jackie laughing his head off, worked.

Some people can't comprehend that Howard was the face of the show and had the personality to deliver the material but Jackie was for sure the secret ingredient that was extremely under-valued once the BIG money came along. Of course, that doesn't mean Jackie would be a superstar that Howard was on his own (no one ever claimed that) but that's not the point. Without Jackie, the show suffered HARD. I like Artie OK as a person, but the show was NEVER like those earlier or peak years. Not even close.

And then once the show became ALL about Howard's AGT job, his "fertography", horrible photoshopping and his wife's animal rescue interests, it became a complete snooze-fest. It still had its moments but was a shadow of what it was and could have been and Howard became a massively hypocritical douchebag while seeking the acceptance of his newly-earned Hampton neighbors who all knew what a PoS he really was. Howard lost the ability to see what a nerd he actually is and started to believe he really was some handsome rock star. The most astounding thing was when Benji did that entire long-running schtick with that too-good-looking-for-him singer chick and she had him dressing up to look ridiculous and Howard would bust his balls constantly on the show about how she was just using him for his celebrity connections. It was all a 100% TROLL about Howard himself. Amazing. I couldn't really stand Benji but that was NEXT LEVEL shit. I'm not sure if Howard ever figured it out or not, but he looked like a total fool with zero self-awareness.

Just like with KI$$ there are people who came on board in the Sirius days and probably thought it was "awesome" even without Jackie, having zero idea the role he had played in making the show what it was from the beginning. I would compare Jackie to someone like Sean Delaney in the KISS camp except Jackie was infinitely more integral to the whole Stern "movement".

The mistake Jackie made was underestimating Howard's greed and truly awful character. Asking for a sliver of Howard's paycheck was ANYTHING BUT stupid. Unfortunately for him, Howard called his bluff because, like I already said, his BS had already sealed the deal.