Metal Sludge wrote: ↑Wed Sep 03, 2025 5:53 pm
Love_Industry wrote: ↑Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:37 am
Reading all of this makes me understand why all kids in Sweden admired and wanted to go to America in the 70s and 80s. It was really a different world.
The 70s were pretty crap here, the rapid economic decline notwithstanding. Sweden dropped from 4th place in the OECD GDP ranking to outside the top 10 and the country and people became visibly poorer. TV and movies were censored for all signs of violence or sex and in theatres often given an adults only rating. And there were only 2 tv channels both state operated and mostly running weird domestic productions or whatever they could buy cheaply from America or for kids programming mostly Eastern Europe. Crime and violence was peaking so all this free play outside maybe happened in villages but not in cities or suburbs, you played at friends' homes - after letting both sets of parents know you were going there - or in designated playgrounds where there always were parents around. Oh and food was atrocious, mostly artificial prefab stuff with tons of additives before they started regulating it. Worst of all were the school lunches and they were mandatory.
Really? That's so interesting. I've never heard that before.
How did they turn that around? Because for the last few decades, Sweden has been one of the safest places to live, from what I've read.
And what were you eating for lunch at school? It couldn't possibly have been worse that our American school lunches!
When I was a high school freshman, we had 2 Swedish exchange students, that were juniors, I think. They were devastated to leave So Cal and go back to Sweden. I really think it was just the weather they were going to miss. And the beach.
Maybe you heard that Prime Minister Olof Palme was murdered? That was 1986, but it didn't come out of nowhere. In the 1970s we had terrorism against embassies, armed gangs robbing banks and stuff like that?
The turnaround? Well in the 1990s three things happened: The economy hit rock bottom, violence and murder peaked with some high profile neonazi murders - google "Malexander" and "John Hron", and in the late 90s the internet boom happened. So there was awareness and action against racism, crime and violence at all levels in society, and the internet boom meant that for the first time in decades, the country wasn't declining and people could see and feel that. It really was a turnaround, Sweden in 1999 was a different and much better country than in say 1991.
As for the Swedish kids, they may have missed the weather and the beach, summers weren't that great back then but now we have climate change

Strangely enough people back then didn't want to admit that the country was declining, and still many think the 70s and 80s were some kind of golden age despite evidence to the contrary. Mostly people too young to actually remember but still. And they certainly didn't experience the school lunches of the era - try googling kålpudding, blodpudding, lapskojs or levergryta, and imagine bad and cheap versions of those
