What albums are perfection, start to finish?

[LovePowerFromTheMamaHead]

I almost put that on my list, but The Hunger kept me from it.

Here Here. Here Here.

Wait a minute....The Hunger is a good song. Why don't you like it?

Also, Lynch Mob Self-titled is better than Wicked Sensation. History will show that to be true hundreds of years from now. Wicked Sensation really only has two or three good songs. Self-titled has about six.

The Hunger just seems like filler to me. Also, for some reason, Mirror Mirror doesn't do much for me either.. But still, that album is super solid. With that and Wicked Sensation both in the same here, even with as much as I like Dokken, I was happy they broke up.

S/t Lynch Mob is super solid too, but something just feels a little too manufactured for me. Wicked Sensation had more of a raw feeling to it, even with the slick production. The songs are all great on S/t, except I hate Tie Your Mother Down. Cold is the Heart is in my top 3 LM songs. But overall, to me, the album just doesn't have the "vibe" that the first one had.

Fair enough. Appreciate the response.

Regarding Lynch Mob s/t I think When Darkness Calls may be one of Lynch's best solos ever.

A question for you if you feel like answering: Do you like the horns in Tangled In The Web? I think they're great, but I've read that George wasn't a fan of the idea at all. It just seems like without them the song would have too much free space if that makes sense. I think they were an unexpected, yet cool addition. Anyhow...Good Day My Friend.
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Not sure how I feel on the horns. They are ok in the song, but not what I want on a Lynch Mob song. To me, it sounds like too much of an attempt to sound more "pop" than rock. That's kind of what one of my problems is with the s/t album. Even with the good songs and Lynch's playing, the whole thing has something of a sell out feel to it. Replacing Oni with Robert, the typical long haired blonde front man, and the horns. I like Robert and thought he was outstanding on The End Machine Phase 2, but Lynch Mob will always be Oni and George to me. Also without the horns, George has more ability to improvise little riffs. I don't miss them on the live version https://youtu.be/lGTBGV4lXF0?feature=shared

[LovePowerFromTheMamaHead]

Beatles - White Album - HOW the eff did I miss this one?
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Easily missed as it is no where close to perfection start to finish.
Wild Honey Pie
Honey Pie
Revolution 9
Bungalow Bill
Don't Pass Me By
Savoy Truffle

You think those songs are perfection? I am a huge Beatles fan, but in between some amazing songs, the white album was filled with self indulged dreg.

[daveg]

Beatles - White Album - HOW the eff did I miss this one?
)

Easily missed as it is no where close to perfection start to finish.
Wild Honey Pie
Honey Pie
Revolution 9
Bungalow Bill
Don't Pass Me By
Savoy Truffle

You think those songs are perfection? I am a huge Beatles fan, but in between some amazing songs, the white album was filled with self indulged dreg.

Obviously, a lot of crap on that album...but damn if I don't love me some Bungalow Bill

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Purple Mountains - s/t

David Berman's final album before his suicide just weeks after its release. It's really sad, of course, but also brilliantly funny at times. Berman's talent for wordplay made Dylan look like Britny Fox.

It hooked me with "When I try to drown my thoughts in gin, I find my worst ideas know how to swim."

Also: "When I see her in the park, it barely merits a remark/How we stand the standard distance distant strangers stand apart."

[Chip Z'Hoy]

re: The White Album

Perfect album because of its imperfections. I think it's the Beatles at their most indulgent, a prelude to their eventual hit-or-miss solo careers, and I think it's the best insight into who they actually were as musicians and songwriters.

Abbey Road has a similar hodgepodge quality and I don't think it works nearly as well, I think they were running on fumes there. White Album is ALL cylinders.

[Sleek]

Are you high?

Abbey Road is the purest perfection and one of the most left-field creative things the Beatles ever put out.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Are you high?

Very!

Abbey Road is the purest perfection and one of the most left-field creative things the Beatles ever put out.

Yeah, maybe! It's the Beatles so I love it and am fascinated by it, but I might listen to it the least.

After "Because," I skip the first part of the medley and just get right to "Golden Slumbers."

I know, BOO THIS MAN.

[LovePowerFromTheMamaHead]

re: The White Album

Perfect album because of its imperfections. I think it's the Beatles at their most indulgent, a prelude to their eventual hit-or-miss solo careers, and I think it's the best insight into who they actually were as musicians and songwriters.

Abbey Road has a similar hodgepodge quality and I don't think it works nearly as well, I think they were running on fumes there. White Album is ALL cylinders.

I get what your saying in terms of analyzing The Beatles and digging deep in to their talents and how they actually worked as a band. That's why I liked a lot of stuff on Anthology because it showed a glimpse behind the scenes. Like the demo of I'll be back attempted in the timing of a waltz only to hear John stop it and say it's too hard to sing it that way....then on the fly changing it to a regular rock beat and it turns out pretty cool. So yes, you can learn a lot about The Beatles from the White Album. It showcases their talents at some of their best but also at some of their worst. With most of the songs pretty much being written and brought in ahead of time by each individual member without much input from each other it does show how the members solo careers would go.


But.....you can't call an album perfection from start to finish if there are admittedly just some really crappy songs on it. I like imperfections sometimes in the recording process or sound quality. It creates a more honest and raw feeling in the music. However, a bad song is still a bad song. The white album has too many songs that are just bad and to waste almost a whole side on vinyl with Revolution 9 is ridiculous.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

But.....you can't call an album perfection from start to finish if there are admittedly just some really crappy songs on it. I like imperfections sometimes in the recording process or sound quality. It creates a more honest and raw feeling in the music. However, a bad song is still a bad song. The white album has too many songs that are just bad and to waste almost a whole side on vinyl with Revolution 9 is ridiculous.

I can get behind this.

I amend my statement from "perfect album because imperfect" to "my favorite Beatles album."

"Rev 9" is rough but it's "Love Me Do" compared to those first three solo albums Lennon did. One of them has a whole side of John and Yoko screaming/moaning "John!!!!" "YOKO!!!!!" But that's neither here nor there.

I was probably a little harsh on Abbey Road too. I'll admit that my Abbey Road rhetoric has been inflammatory and regrettable.

[Sleek]

I mean, theoretically I am part of a combo that is AT SOME POINT going to be doing the entirety of The Plastic Ono Band's "Live Peace in Toronto 1969" in front of an audience, and even I find some of the White Album stuff superfluous.

That said, I kind of like the fact that all the weirdness made the record...liiiiike, it is better to have Bungalow Bill and Rocky Raccoon and Revolution #9 than to have it been a single album and had those lost to history.

The Beatles are so good, that even bad Beatles is glorious and just MORE Beatles to love.

That said, I will cut a bitch over Abbey Road or Revolver. Those are my jams.

[Wiseacre]

Abbey Road has a similar hodgepodge quality and I don't think it works nearly as well, I think they were running on fumes there. White Album is ALL cylinders.

pure crazy talk

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Abbey Road has a similar hodgepodge quality and I don't think it works nearly as well, I think they were running on fumes there. White Album is ALL cylinders.

pure crazy talk

Admittedly, I went too far.

But I think John Lennon would back me up (depending on the day).

In an interview with Rolling Stone shortly after their breakup, Lennon didn’t mince his words and let the world know his true opinion on Abbey Road. “I liked the A-side,” he said without hesitation. “I never liked that sort of pop opera on the other side. I think it’s junk. It was just bits of song thrown together. And I can’t remember what some of it is.”

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-beatle ... m-history/

I have some criticisms of the A-side too.

I know "Maxwell's" is the go-to song to shit on but it's really pretty lousy. Those McCartney pop-standard/showtune trips like "Your Mother Should Know" and "When I'm Sixty-Four" are just not for me. It's all Beatles and I'd rather have them than not have them, they're just not my personal favorites.

I am 100% in agreement with Sleek: Even bad Beatles is glorious, and I don't even think those songs are necessarily bad.

NOTE: This is just my opinion in Sept. 2025. I could be spreading the gospel of "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" this time next year. I used to hate "Octopus's Garden"; now I like it just fine.

No man ever steps into the same river twice, for it is not the same river and he is not the same man.

"Yellow Submarine" really sets me off, I don't see myself ever liking that one.