CHARLIE KIRK ... Shot (apparently a bullet to the neck) at a speaking event at Utah Valley University, developing!

[tooth]

I think AOC is an idiot. But I don't want her murdered. Unlike the left, I understand it's ok to have a different opinion.

AOC is an elected official. What did "Charlie Kirk" do? Did he hold public office? AFAIK, Charlie Kirk was a youtuber/podcast host/influencer, nothing more. I can't believe he has this much reach, the story is everywhere. Whoever he was, he clearly mattered.

[Bono Nettencourt]

I think AOC is an idiot. But I don't want her murdered. Unlike the left, I understand it's ok to have a different opinion.

AOC is an elected official. What did "Charlie Kirk" do? Did he hold public office? AFAIK, Charlie Kirk was a youtuber/podcast host/influencer, nothing more. I can't believe he has this much reach, the story is everywhere. Whoever he was, he clearly mattered.

Telling the RWNJs who and how to hate is big business.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Every MAGAt needs to watch the video of the shooting and decide if that's how they want to go out. Because if civil war breaks out in this country, that will be their job, to take those bullets.

The people that stand to become even more wealthy are going to have bunkers, top-notch security, etc., while the working class blows each others brains out.

Do you really think in that split second final moment before his lights went out that he was thinking "This was all worth it"? The millions he made off stoking the flames of division, it was all worth getting taken out at 31? Worth not getting to see his kids grow up?

It's all so stupid. We never had to go in this direction. And for Jeff Epstein's best bud. It boggles the mind.

[Bono Nettencourt]

glittering prizes and endless compromises
shatter the illusion of integrity

[aerozeppelin]

I think AOC is an idiot. But I don't want her murdered. Unlike the left, I understand it's ok to have a different opinion.

Dude, did you completely forget that two Democratic MN lawmakers were murdered in their homes by a right-wing whacko recently? Your side mocked, shrugged, didn't care about it, so spare me the sanctimonious pearl clutching.

Wish y'all cared about the hundreds of school children who have been shot up in their schools as much as a you did about a single right-wing provocateur.

Show me in my post where I said I was happy about 2 Dem Lawmakers or hundreds of school children getting shot was ok. I don't celebrate that no matter what side politically people are on, unlike you and the left.

My point is that you didn't care. You only care about this particular death because this guy played for your team. I'm also commenting on your claim that it's only the left that gets extreme when they hear an opinion they don't like. Time after time, we have plenty examples of right-wingers acting out violently over a difference of opinion or when they don't get their way - MN lawmakers, Jan 6th, the fucking dude that shot Trump, the Republican who lost an election in New Mexico in 2022 who orchestrated a series of shootings at the homes of regional Democrats, the lunatic who set fire to Gov Shapiro's house in PA. It's intellectually dishonest to paint the Democrats as the party of violence and inflammatory rhetoric when all of this has happened and the president posts on social media about declaring war on Americans.

I don't see people referencing this anywhere, but Kirk also cheered on the military occupation of DC a few weeks ago and called for them to remove and exterminate all of the "cockroaches" there. That's the language that was used in the Rwandan genocide to dehumanize the other side. Spare me if I don't mourn this loss of life (which is far from me celebrating it).

[Ham Stroker's Ejacula]

Are you saying that there was someone behind Kirk signaling, i.e. like "all clear, take the shot"?

Yes, that's what he's saying. I'd like someone to rationally explain the following away.

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG3f0Jd ... nnel=NBCLA

Watch from 2:17 - 2:24.


The two men are diagonally behind Kirk, to his right.

The man in the white hat/white shirt touches the brim of his hat, then touches his right ear. "All clear"? Then, the man in the sunglasses/dark shirt to his immediate left takes a step forward to get in front of the white shirt man, then touches his right forearm, like a baseball signal. "Take the shot"?

A split second later, Kirk was shot.


First guy:




Second guy:




Zoomed in video review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjyRyOf ... eportToday

[ijwthstd]

I truly think the only way to end this without descending into civil war is to separate. It's over--red states and blue states are too ideologically opposed. The experiment is FAILING. This is no longer a functioning society and we should break up.

The alternative is what? Wait it out? For what? What are we waiting for exactly? Trump is a symptom of the cancer; he's not the cancer itself.

MAGA wants a very specific type of society for their kind and we can let them sink or swim on their own.

It sounds absolutely ludicrous to suggest but what else is left? Wait for the car bombs? The executions in the street?

Nah. Let's just "Hey, we tried."

I can see this, United States 1 and United States 2.

The flag stays the same except drop the number of stars and the blue States keep the blue bits of the flag and the red States get the red bits.

Build a "Great Wall of Carolina" and each side pretends the other doesn't exist.

Except "blue states" are really city-states surrounded by red areas

[Bono Nettencourt]

Are you saying that there was someone behind Kirk signaling, i.e. like "all clear, take the shot"?

Yes, that's what he's saying. I'd like someone to rationally explain the following away.

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG3f0Jd ... nnel=NBCLA

Watch from 2:17 - 2:24.


The two men are diagonally behind Kirk, to his right.

The man in the white hat/white shirt touches the brim of his hat, then touches his right ear. "All clear"? Then, the man in the sunglasses/dark shirt to his immediate left takes a step forward to get in front of the white shirt man, then touches his right forearm, like a baseball signal. "Take the shot"?

A split second later, Kirk was shot.


First guy:




Second guy:




Zoomed in video review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjyRyOf ... eportToday

Only problem is if they were in on it, they didn't vacate the line of fire, which you'd expect them to do.

[LAglamrocker]

Dude was hysterical
Going miss seeing his clips

Dudes dressed as chicks on college campus arguing with him was better than any SNL sketch last 3 decades

Could have guessed his last day would be in Utah

[Chip Z'Hoy]

My only theory is that they were bush-league security guys he hired on the cheap to stop people from bum-rushing the stage and they were doing baseball signals to look like Secret Service. The shot coming right after the signals is enormously suspicious, obviously, but I don't know if they were doing that routine the whole time.

MAGA is so consistently amateur-hour that maybe it was an inside job and those guys were giving signals in plain sight with countless cameras on them. Why shouldn't they? MAGA won't believe what's right in front of them, in any event. They decided before Kirk hit the ground who the shooter was, makes zero difference.

I'm leaning toward crazy coincidence and those guys were just doofuses trying to look official. But like I said, Trump World is so bizarre, and this Epstein stuff goes so deep, with so much at stake, I don't know how much I can really rule out. Butler, PA was staged.

[TravisBicklesMohawk]

This happened a couple of days ago.
Look how close these women get to Trump . . . if one of them had a gun, he'd been toast.

Does the Secret Service want him dead or something????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IunkhrI ... dXJhbnQ%3D

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Photos of suspect released.



Flag and eagle shirt but maybe he was trying to blend in? Or he was being ironic?

Or he's a right-wing nutjob.

[Rocker4Real]

Wow...some Christians on my Facebook feed are treating this guy like a martyr to the faith. I hope there are no acts of retaliation. I've read people equating this to shooting Nazis in WW2. Umm....no...this is someone shot at a public event.

[Danzig in the Dark]

Are you saying that there was someone behind Kirk signaling, i.e. like "all clear, take the shot"?

Yes, that's what he's saying. I'd like someone to rationally explain the following away.

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG3f0Jd ... nnel=NBCLA

Watch from 2:17 - 2:24.


The two men are diagonally behind Kirk, to his right.

The man in the white hat/white shirt touches the brim of his hat, then touches his right ear. "All clear"? Then, the man in the sunglasses/dark shirt to his immediate left takes a step forward to get in front of the white shirt man, then touches his right forearm, like a baseball signal. "Take the shot"?

A split second later, Kirk was shot.


First guy:




Second guy:




Zoomed in video review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjyRyOf ... eportToday

A "professional hitman" wouldn't need coaches like the pitcher for the Brewers.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Trans/Antifa messages on the ammo? Yeah, maybe.

But if I just murdered someone, I'd sure want the authorities to look somewhere else.

No idea what's going on here. JUST ASKING QUESTIONS.

[ijwthstd]

[Tyketto Meniketti]

Show me in my post where I said I was happy about 2 Dem Lawmakers or hundreds of school children getting shot was ok. I don't celebrate that no matter what side politically people are on, unlike you and the left.

Here's the thing: We don't even have a suspect in custody. Trump supposedly has no idea who the shooter is but declared war on the Democrats? We don't know if this was a neo-Nazi wound up about Kirk's support of Israel, or a Zionist wound up over criticisms of Israel, or an accelerationist trying to kickstart a civil war--we have no idea.

Personally, I think it's likely the shooter was an unhinged leftist. But like Trump, you've already filled in the blanks--probably got an image in your head of who the shooter is.

Like I've been saying, this benefits MAGA more than anyone else. Bare minimum, y'all get to cosplay victimhood for a week.

No kidding. Seriously, the number of off-the-rails Democrats who are expert marksmen has to be remarkably low. The issue nobody wants to cop to is Teflon Don. No matter the topic, the man is an absolutely disgraceful leader. On one hand you have Mike Johnson saying the temperature/vitriol needs to lessen, on the other this president is pouting like a toddler, blaming "radical, left-wing Democrats" long before there's even a suspect. Just toddler-like misplaced aggression, rather than leadership.

That's not only foolish, it's dangerous. The guy cannot get out of his own way. And Republicans let it fly, because his base is spellbound. The guy mocks and mocks and lies and lies, and it falls on deaf ears. Nobody is willing to stand up and publicly admit our president is a failed leader... time and again. From masks to murders... the guy is the lowest form of human possible for the role.

[superglide88]

Do you really think in that split second final moment before his lights went out that he was thinking "This was all worth it"? The millions he made off stoking the flames of division, it was all worth getting taken out at 31? Worth not getting to see his kids grow up?

It's all so stupid. We never had to go in this direction. And for Jeff Epstein's best bud. It boggles the mind.

This x1000

[superglide88]

My only theory is that they were bush-league security guys he hired on the cheap to stop people from bum-rushing the stage and they were doing baseball signals to look like Secret Service. The shot coming right after the signals is enormously suspicious, obviously, but I don't know if they were doing that routine the whole time.

MAGA is so consistently amateur-hour that maybe it was an inside job and those guys were giving signals in plain sight with countless cameras on them. Why shouldn't they? MAGA won't believe what's right in front of them, in any event. They decided before Kirk hit the ground who the shooter was, makes zero difference.

I'm leaning toward crazy coincidence and those guys were just doofuses trying to look official. But like I said, Trump World is so bizarre, and this Epstein stuff goes so deep, with so much at stake, I don't know how much I can really rule out. Butler, PA was staged.

Either way their teammate sure hit a homerun!

[Rocker4Real]

I hope it doesn't disappoint people if it turns out this guy was just a lone nut.

[Hatchets Molly]

The world is a stage.

[TravisBicklesMohawk]

Betting he was a Marine at one time.

That shot was too damn accurate . . .

[Danzig in the Dark]

Betting he was a Marine at one time.

That shot was too damn accurate . . .

Are you fucking serious?

[Gibsonite]

[NeonKnite]

Trump, ever the divider, in his oval office speech last night only mentioned shootings he could attribute to the "radical left wing" and conveniently ignored the shootings of the Minnesota Democratic State lawmakers just this past June.

How do you people not see how this utter POS shit lies and manipulates for his own personal gain? He really is a soulless, less-than-human being that couldn't care less if he destroys the fabric of this country for his own personal gain.

[Gibsonite]

Wasn't he on with Megyn Kelly recently calling for the unredacted Epstein files to be released and insinuating that Epstein was a Mossad agent? Those folks have had lots of practice sniping unarmed civilians from long range lately.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Wasn't he on with Megyn Kelly recently calling for the unredacted Epstein files to be released and insinuating that Epstein was a Mossad agent? Those folks have had lots of practice sniping unarmed civilians from long range lately.

I've definitely considered this. Let's look at a rough timeline:

- Kirk comes out and says he's done talking about Epstein and we all need to move on
- Kirk sees the tides start to shift in his audience, goes back to "Release the files"
- Trump admin tells GOP in no uncertain terms that pursuing the release of the files would be a "hostile act against the administration"
- Kirk is murdered

It's an international child sex trafficking ring involving some of the richest and most powerful people in the world and at the center is a wannabe mob boss.

Anyone that was a participant with Epstein is capable of this. The horrors they committed are way beyond what we saw yesterday.

[Rocker4Real]

Paul Stanley
@PaulStanleyLive
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16h
The demonization and villainizing of those who don’t share our beliefs by BOTH SIDES has now resulted in the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Another tragedy and unspeakable act of cowardice that betrays our liberty, our democracy and our country.

[TravisBicklesMohawk]

Betting he was a Marine at one time.

That shot was too damn accurate . . .

Are you fucking serious?

Yes, I'm fucking serious. Did you not understand the post Bubba?

[Sleek]

Betting he was a Marine at one time.

That shot was too damn accurate . . .

Are you fucking serious?

Yes, I'm fucking serious. Did you not understand the post Bubba?

Brah, it was Utah and the weapon was a .30-.06, a hunting gun, essentially a deer rifle.

Fully 42% of people in Utah could have made that shot.

this president is pouting like a toddler, blaming "radical, left-wing Democrats" long before there's even a suspect.

It's a manufactured martyr situation, like Horst Wessel.

"Even as Wessel was lying seriously wounded in hospital, Goebbels was already releasing reports asserting that those who had carried out the attack were "degenerate communist subhumans""