NFL 2011 Thread

[HMJ]

Damn you San Fran. Just lose one more.

[SkyDog112046]

Jesus was busy opening birthday presents..

Sorry Tim..

Did you see SNL? Jesus told him that he was busy this week. Maybe next time.

[johnk5150]

Good call on the mentoring thing. He obviously didn't do a damned thing to help his back ups along.

Peyton's job was to be the quarterback of the Colts. The responsiblity for the backup success/failure is on the coaches and the backup himself.

[Crazy Levi]

Good call on the mentoring thing. He obviously didn't do a damned thing to help his back ups along.

Peyton's job was to be the quarterback of the Colts. The responsiblity for the backup success/failure is on the coaches and the backup himself.

Nobody is suggesting it should be.

But the point needs to be made because people Continue to suggest that Peyton would be a great mentor to someone like andrew luck. The evidence simply isn't there that this is so.

[LAglamrocker]

can't wait for Tebow to receive the KIng of Denver vs Chiefs

Hail the new King of Denver!


1st round HOPE its against BIg Ben and his boo-boo!, "my ankle hurt's"

[Crazy Levi]

can't wait for Tebow to receive the KIng of Denver vs Chiefs

Hail the new King of Denver!


anyone thinks Tebow won't win vs Chiefs or playoffs in 1st round is a sh*the*d!

Are you retarded?

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

can't wait for Tebow to receive the KIng of Denver vs Chiefs

Hail there new King of Denver!


anyone thinks Tebow won't win vs Chiefs or playoffs in 1st round is a loser

Now that P13 is posting rationally you are officially the biggest idiot on this board. Congratulations.

[LAglamrocker]

hate all you want, Tebow will win next 2 weeks, FACT!

[Crazy Levi]

hate all you want, Tebow will win next 2 weeks, FACT!

I'm not " hating," I'm just curious if you are retarded.

Not because Tebow sucked last week and absolutely blew ass this week, but because your post came off as if it were written by someone who was mentally retarded.

Anyway, good luck with all that, your bold "Tebow wins next week AND will win ONE playoff game!" prediction.

Though if you are going to go full retard why guarantee just a first round playoff win?! Why not go the whole 9 yards and predict super bowl?

And what happened to the second biggest Tebow nutlicker here, cantstop?

So cantstop what's up? Still on board the Tebow Tardwagon?

[bane]

hate all you want, Tebow will win next 2 weeks, FACT!

Fact? I don't think that means what you think it means.

[Tymaster]

Usually I like to give a coach at least two, if not three, seasons to show their mettle. But Pat Shurmur is really making me scratch my head. The fact that the Browns are even in these games means he is either a great coach who has a team playing above and beyond their athletic ability, or that is a bad coach and a good coach wouldn't just be content to lose closely, but find a way to win.

[bigbuttskinner]

Usually I like to give a coach at least two, if not three, seasons to show their mettle. But Pat Shurmur is really making me scratch my head. The fact that the Browns are even in these games means he is either a great coach who has a team playing above and beyond their athletic ability, or that is a bad coach and a good coach wouldn't just be content to lose closely, but find a way to win.

I'm a Browns fan, too (why do we do this?) and the playcalling in critical situations was awful. Ending the first half by the goal line, running Hillis as the time ticked away? No timeouts at all and that's the call? Hillis was a monster yesterday and there were some 3rd & shorts and we throw? Huh? Is Shurmur a loon? One may say "But they expect Hillis." Fine, then make Hillis earn it. Chances are, he will. At 4-10 yesterday, why get fancy? Play some power football with the big bruiser. Hopefully they get a good offensive coordinator next year.

[Tymaster]

Usually I like to give a coach at least two, if not three, seasons to show their mettle. But Pat Shurmur is really making me scratch my head. The fact that the Browns are even in these games means he is either a great coach who has a team playing above and beyond their athletic ability, or that is a bad coach and a good coach wouldn't just be content to lose closely, but find a way to win.

I'm a Browns fan, too (why do we do this?) and the playcalling in critical situations was awful. Ending the first half by the goal line, running Hillis as the time ticked away? No timeouts at all and that's the call? Hillis was a monster yesterday and there were some 3rd & shorts and we throw? Huh? Is Shurmur a loon? One may say "But they expect Hillis." Fine, then make Hillis earn it. Chances are, he will. At 4-10 yesterday, why get fancy? Play some power football with the big bruiser. Hopefully they get a good offensive coordinator next year.

Shurmur seems to be in over his head as HC and OC. Why oh why didn't Holmgren demand an OC from the get go, knowing full well it's hard enough to be a rookie head coach. Very, very frustrating. As to "why do we do this?" Because I have since the Kardiac Kids era. Although I have to say other than the 2007 season, the new Browns have not been fun at all. Even the playoff year (2002) wasn't particularly fun. We backpedalled and some have even went so far as to say Dan Reeves pulled Atlanta off of us to let us get in. Since he did steal 3 SB appearance from the city. Although the 2003 playoff game at Pittsburgh was fun. Kelly Holcombs one great day!!

[HeavyMetalZombie666]

Where are all the Tebow idiots today? Denver got Tebowned.

Two losses in a row. Their faith has been shaken.

It prove that no supernatural force favors a team.

[bigbuttskinner]

Usually I like to give a coach at least two, if not three, seasons to show their mettle. But Pat Shurmur is really making me scratch my head. The fact that the Browns are even in these games means he is either a great coach who has a team playing above and beyond their athletic ability, or that is a bad coach and a good coach wouldn't just be content to lose closely, but find a way to win.

I'm a Browns fan, too (why do we do this?) and the playcalling in critical situations was awful. Ending the first half by the goal line, running Hillis as the time ticked away? No timeouts at all and that's the call? Hillis was a monster yesterday and there were some 3rd & shorts and we throw? Huh? Is Shurmur a loon? One may say "But they expect Hillis." Fine, then make Hillis earn it. Chances are, he will. At 4-10 yesterday, why get fancy? Play some power football with the big bruiser. Hopefully they get a good offensive coordinator next year.

Shurmur seems to be in over his head as HC and OC. Why oh why didn't Holmgren demand an OC from the get go, knowing full well it's hard enough to be a rookie head coach. Very, very frustrating. As to "why do we do this?" Because I have since the Kardiac Kids era. Although I have to say other than the 2007 season, the new Browns have not been fun at all. Even the playoff year (2002) wasn't particularly fun. We backpedalled and some have even went so far as to say Dan Reeves pulled Atlanta off of us to let us get in. Since he did steal 3 SB appearance from the city. Although the 2003 playoff game at Pittsburgh was fun. Kelly Holcombs one great day!!

What do you want the Browns to do in the offseason? With Hillis, McCoy, the draft, free agency, etc. Give me your game plan. Always curious to here what a fellow Browns fan would do.

[SkyDog112046]

Playoff seedings and WC Round predictions:
AFC
#1 New England
#2 Baltimore
#3 Houston vs #6 Tennessee = Titans
#4 Denver vs #5 Pittsburgh = Steelers in a blowout

Houston is going to have problems playing with a 3rd string QB. I think they will lose to TN this week putting them in the playoffs over Cincy on tie breakers and then have to face them in the WC game. Denver should get into the playoffs where they will be absolutely destroyed by Pitt.

NFC
#1 Green Bay
#2 San Francisco
#3 New Orleans vs #6 Atlanta = Saints
#4 New York vs #5 Detroit = Lions

New York should get in only to have to face a Detroit team whose strengths match up against their weaknesses. The Saints should be rolling into the playoffs and looking sharp going to SF for the divisional round.

I think 3 of the 4 projected WC games will be won by the road teams.

Thoughts?

[HMJ]

I can't make any calls until after next week. The seeding isn't close to finished.

Saints still got 2 home games to roll through. DIE FALCONS!

[Tymaster]

What do you want the Browns to do in the offseason? With Hillis, McCoy, the draft, free agency, etc. Give me your game plan. Always curious to here what a fellow Browns fan would do.

I hate starting over again at QB, but I wouldn't mind bringing a quality free agent (Matt Flynn, Kyle Orton, David Garrard, Alex Smith) and either let Colt sit and learn or battle for the job. Colt's toughness is not in question, but his abilities are. However, I'm not sure Steve Young or Joe Montana could make the Browns receivers look good. So yeah, I think via the draft and free agency the Browns need to AGGRESSIVELY pursue receivers and they need to continue to solidify the line. I'd like to see Hillis resigned, but I think that ship may have already sailed.

[SkyDog112046]

I can't make any calls until after next week. The seeding isn't close to finished.

Saints still got 2 home games to roll through. DIE FALCONS!

I know the seedings aren't finished. But they are to the point where you can make a reasonable prediction as to what they would be.

[SkyDog112046]

What do you want the Browns to do in the offseason? With Hillis, McCoy, the draft, free agency, etc. Give me your game plan. Always curious to here what a fellow Browns fan would do.

I hate starting over again at QB, but I wouldn't mind bringing a quality free agent (Matt Flynn, Kyle Orton, David Garrard, Alex Smith) and either let Colt sit and learn or battle for the job. Colt's toughness is not in question, but his abilities are. However, I'm not sure Steve Young or Joe Montana could make the Browns receivers look good. So yeah, I think via the draft and free agency the Browns need to AGGRESSIVELY pursue receivers and they need to continue to solidify the line. I'd like to see Hillis resigned, but I think that ship may have already sailed.

It just seems like the Browns always have a ton of holes and never have more than a couple of positions where they look strong. Right now they pick 5th. If Griffin is there I think they have to take him because it's not often a team gets a shot at a potential franchise QB. If not they can pick up an OT or DE there and still grab a WR with their second 1st round pick. Another option is trading out one of the picks and trying to go for value and fill holes, although they don't seem to have much success doing that. There's always the feeling that "Hey, they're the Browns and they will fuck this up somehow."

[Tymaster]

What do you want the Browns to do in the offseason? With Hillis, McCoy, the draft, free agency, etc. Give me your game plan. Always curious to here what a fellow Browns fan would do.

I hate starting over again at QB, but I wouldn't mind bringing a quality free agent (Matt Flynn, Kyle Orton, David Garrard, Alex Smith) and either let Colt sit and learn or battle for the job. Colt's toughness is not in question, but his abilities are. However, I'm not sure Steve Young or Joe Montana could make the Browns receivers look good. So yeah, I think via the draft and free agency the Browns need to AGGRESSIVELY pursue receivers and they need to continue to solidify the line. I'd like to see Hillis resigned, but I think that ship may have already sailed.

It just seems like the Browns always have a ton of holes and never have more than a couple of positions where they look strong. Right now they pick 5th. If Griffin is there I think they have to take him because it's not often a team gets a shot at a potential franchise QB. If not they can pick up an OT or DE there and still grab a WR with their second 1st round pick. Another option is trading out one of the picks and trying to go for value and fill holes, although they don't seem to have much success doing that. There's always the feeling that "Hey, they're the Browns and they will fuck this up somehow."

I was hoping the Walrus would fix this. So far, the Walrus has let me down. I'll say this though, Lerner isn't afraid to spend money, he just hasn't spent it on anyone good yet. It's a sad, sad day when Mikey Boy Brown and Marvin Lewis are running the best franchise in Ohio. I never thought I'd say that, but by just clinching their 3rd winning season together (Lewis and Mikey) they are clearly light years ahead of the mistake on the lake. Holmgren and Heckert are about to be entering year together. Shit or get off the pot, Walrus.

[bane]

Playoff seedings and WC Round predictions:
AFC
#1 New England
#2 Baltimore
#3 Houston vs #6 Tennessee = Titans
#4 Denver vs #5 Pittsburgh = Steelers in a blowout

Houston is going to have problems playing with a 3rd string QB. I think they will lose to TN this week putting them in the playoffs over Cincy on tie breakers and then have to face them in the WC game. Denver should get into the playoffs where they will be absolutely destroyed by Pitt.

NFC
#1 Green Bay
#2 San Francisco
#3 New Orleans vs #6 Atlanta = Saints
#4 New York vs #5 Detroit = Lions

New York should get in only to have to face a Detroit team whose strengths match up against their weaknesses. The Saints should be rolling into the playoffs and looking sharp going to SF for the divisional round.

I think 3 of the 4 projected WC games will be won by the road teams.

Thoughts?

I agree with most of this. I think Cinci wins the other WC though. Houston's offense has looked horrible the past two weeks, but I think it's got more to do with play calling and Kubiak trying to play it safe than it does the QB. Andre Johnson will be back to help them go downfield more, and Briesel will be back on the O line. I don't know if it's enough, but they'll be competitive in the first round. They're gonna get bounced in the divisional round no matter what IMO.

[Tymaster]

Playoff seedings and WC Round predictions:
AFC
#1 New England
#2 Baltimore
#3 Houston vs #6 Tennessee = Titans
#4 Denver vs #5 Pittsburgh = Steelers in a blowout

Houston is going to have problems playing with a 3rd string QB. I think they will lose to TN this week putting them in the playoffs over Cincy on tie breakers and then have to face them in the WC game. Denver should get into the playoffs where they will be absolutely destroyed by Pitt.

NFC
#1 Green Bay
#2 San Francisco
#3 New Orleans vs #6 Atlanta = Saints
#4 New York vs #5 Detroit = Lions

New York should get in only to have to face a Detroit team whose strengths match up against their weaknesses. The Saints should be rolling into the playoffs and looking sharp going to SF for the divisional round.

I think 3 of the 4 projected WC games will be won by the road teams.

Thoughts?

I agree with most of this. I think Cinci wins the other WC though. Houston's offense has looked horrible the past two weeks, but I think it's got more to do with play calling and Kubiak trying to play it safe than it does the QB. Andre Johnson will be back to help them go downfield more, and Briesel will be back on the O line. I don't know if it's enough, but they'll be competitive in the first round. They're gonna get bounced in the divisional round no matter what IMO.

Don't see Cincy beating Baltimore. Baltimore has too much to lose, and the possibility of facing a division opponent in the playoffs is never good. Also, no fan support in Cincy. All but one game has been blacked out this year, and they are begging Cincinnatians to sell this game out. As is stands, it's going to be blacked out in Cincy, Dayton, and Lexington. Nice PR Mike Brown, nice PR.

[bane]

Cinci doesn't have to beat Baltimore to get in. They still have a really good shot even with a loss.

[LAglamrocker]

ha ha Orton's Chiefs to be blown out sunday

then playoffs Tebow "The Legend Killer" first will take out the two time two time,1 time raper Big Ben!

[bane]

ha ha Orton's Chiefs to be blown out sunday

then playoffs Tebow "The Legend Killer" first will take out the two time two time,1 time raper Big Ben!

Denver may win next week, but Pitt will annihilate the Denver Tebows.

[SkyDog112046]

Cinci doesn't have to beat Baltimore to get in. They still have a really good shot even with a loss.

Assuming that Baltimore beats Cincy and TN beats Houston, as long as Denver wins TN gets in. I ran the playoff machine for next week and assuming all the games go as predicted the Titans are in.

It would serve Cincy fans right. How can they not support their team when they are competing for a playoff spot? It's a "win and you're in". How can even fair weather fans not latch onto that?

[Tymaster]

Cinci doesn't have to beat Baltimore to get in. They still have a really good shot even with a loss.

A loss and their chances are INCREDIBLY slim, Bane. They would need 1) NYJ loss + OAK loss; 2) NYJ loss + DEN loss. Sorry bud, if Cincy loses, they're home. Where they don't have enough fans to sell out a virtual playoff game. Eff Cincy.

[Tymaster]

Cinci doesn't have to beat Baltimore to get in. They still have a really good shot even with a loss.

Assuming that Baltimore beats Cincy and TN beats Houston, as long as Denver wins TN gets in. I ran the playoff machine for next week and assuming all the games go as predicted the Titans are in.

It would serve Cincy fans right. How can they not support their team when they are competing for a playoff spot? It's a "win and you're in". How can even fair weather fans not latch onto that?

Weak sports town. Supposedly a baseball town, but the Reds only sell out one or two games a year. When the Royals were perennial playoff contenders they couldn't fill the Cincinnati Gardens. Terrible football city. The fans know nothing of the league.

[bane]

Cinci doesn't have to beat Baltimore to get in. They still have a really good shot even with a loss.

Assuming that Baltimore beats Cincy and TN beats Houston, as long as Denver wins TN gets in. I ran the playoff machine for next week and assuming all the games go as predicted the Titans are in.

It would serve Cincy fans right. How can they not support their team when they are competing for a playoff spot? It's a "win and you're in". How can even fair weather fans not latch onto that?

I really don't see Tenn beating Houston. They played really safe the last two games, and it cost them. They need some momentum going into the playoffs. I think you'll see the same Texans team that beat Atlanta and Cinci next week.