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Re: Ron Paul's Cult vs Glenn Beck's Cult

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ijwthstd wrote:I can't believe someone would dispute something so plainly obvious as to whether or not a Republican congressman and Republican candidate for president is a Republican or not.
'You know who' will not back down, even when wrong.
He sees it as a sign of weakness and something that undermines his "cred".
This hangup IS his major weakness.
As I've mentioned, such lameness is one of the problems with most politicians today.
They won't give in even if it's a losing cause.

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Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote: You see, the problem with you is that you act like I have no credibility or something.
Yes, I do have credibility.
No you don't. You're just an interested party expressing opinions, along with methane gas.
The fact that you're an emotional hothead doesn't give your opinion any more weight, it just proves you're an asshole.
Yes, I do. You're just too far into denial to realize it. And I'm still waiting for you to make even ONE convincing rebuttal as to why I'm wrong about ANYTHING I've discussed. ALL you do is attack me. So, shit or get off the pot, asshole. :roll:
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Moggio wrote:Yes, I do have credibility. And that's because when I'm in a discussion about something I usually know what I'm talking about and back my shit up after presenting my case.
But you didn't.
You stated that Ron Paul had international support and when politely asked the extent of that support, you refused to provide a simple answer to back up a simple claim. You say I should take it on faith because you have credibility, but I wasn't even denying your statement or its credibility- I was simply asking for further detail. That's something anyone might do in a simple discussion about politics. However, when given an opportunity, you did not back your statement up with further detail. What's more, you got really aggressive about it, when you had in fact been given an opportunity to spread your knowledge.
pieceofme wrote:So you can't answer his questions. That figures.
Look morons, I've not only answered your questions, I've also given you two links that are OVER 3 hours long COMBINED that will answer many of your questions. So, knock yourselves out. And stop splitting hairs. Btw, it's convenient that you don't include those links in your above quotes. :roll:
ijwthstd wrote:I can't believe someone would dispute something so plainly obvious as to whether or not a Republican congressman and Republican candidate for president is a Republican or not.
???
Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:'You know who' will not back down, even when wrong.
He sees it as a sign of weakness and something that undermines his "cred".
This hangup IS his major weakness.
As I've mentioned, such lameness is one of the problems with most politicians today.
They won't give in even if it's a losing cause.
Oh, STFU already.

You STILL haven't shown me why I'm wrong regarding ANYTHING I've discussed on this forum. ALL you do is attack me. So, ONCE AGAIN, shit or get off the pot, asshole. :roll:
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Moggio wrote: You STILL haven't shown me why I'm wrong regarding ANYTHING I've discussed on this forum.
Sure I have. I even provided screen caps, and you still argued about it..
You're the kind of fool who is afraid to admit mistakes, so I guess you're just gonna have to live with the treatment you get here. You deserve every bit of it.
By the way, do you have any comment on the latest poll about you? Will you recognize the true results, or are ya gonna argue about that too?
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Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote: You STILL haven't shown me why I'm wrong regarding ANYTHING I've discussed on this forum.
Sure I have. I even provided screen caps, and you still argued about it..
You're the kind of fool who is afraid to admit mistakes, so I guess you're just gonna have to live with the treatment you get here. You deserve every bit of it.
By the way, do you have any comment on the latest poll about you? Will you recognize the true results, or are ya gonna argue about that too?
No, you haven't. ALL you've done is two things: point out that I'm wrong, despite the FACT I'm not and ATTACK me.

I can admit when I'm wrong (though, I am usually right about 95% of the time). It's just you haven't read most of my posts, so you wouldn't know either way.

Anyway, once you construct a convincing rebuttal, I've love to read it. Shit or get off the pot. :roll:

Oh and the "latest" poll against me in the Original Gossip Board is purely a collection of whiny little bitches who are simply pathetic and couldn't win an argument to save their lives...
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Moggio wrote: Oh and the "latest" poll against me in the Original Gossip Board is purely a collection of whiny little bitches who are simply pathetic and couldn't win an argument to save their lives...
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ijwthstd wrote:I can't believe someone would dispute something so plainly obvious as to whether or not a Republican congressman and Republican candidate for president is a Republican or not.
Ron Paul is clearly a Republican by all meaningful measures. The fact that he's not a mainstream republican is fairly clear, but that's a more nuanced position than Moggio is capable of holding/understanding.
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Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote: Oh and the "latest" poll against me in the Original Gossip Board is purely a collection of whiny little bitches who are simply pathetic and couldn't win an argument to save their lives...
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Which PROVES my point.
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ijwthstd wrote:I can't believe someone would dispute something so plainly obvious as to whether or not a Republican congressman and Republican candidate for president is a Republican or not.
Ron Paul is clearly a Republican by all meaningful measures. The fact that he's not a mainstream republican is fairly clear, but that's a more nuanced position than Moggio is capable of holding/understanding.
Really?

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Moggio wrote:
demolition23 wrote:
ijwthstd wrote:I can't believe someone would dispute something so plainly obvious as to whether or not a Republican congressman and Republican candidate for president is a Republican or not.
Ron Paul is clearly a Republican by all meaningful measures. The fact that he's not a mainstream republican is fairly clear, but that's a more nuanced position than Moggio is capable of holding/understanding.
Really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5M1tGIi ... ults_video
Really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ_Z_XG0L2c

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Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:
demolition23 wrote:Ron Paul is clearly a Republican by all meaningful measures. The fact that he's not a mainstream republican is fairly clear, but that's a more nuanced position than Moggio is capable of holding/understanding.
Really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5M1tGIi ... ults_video
Really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ_Z_XG0L2c
ROTF!

No, not really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9S1UtFSKNA


You seriously think I haven't seen your above link? :lol:

Anyway...like I've said before, Ron Paul has SOME similar philosophical Republican beliefs/points of view...but he certainly can't be defined as a Republican. And of course this is one of the main reasons why he hasn't and WON'T endorse Romney. RP is primarily a Libertarian. This is something you two would already know if you knew what you were talking about...
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Libertarian is a political philosophy (and a very minor political party). Republican is a political party with tens of millions of people including many libertarians.

Ron Paul is a goofball and his fringe supporters mostly seen as harmless. His endorsement is worthless. His true contribution to Romney's victory and backdoor endorsement was going easy on him during the primary campaign, perhaps hoping to secure his son a place on the ticket should he have enough delegates to make any difference whatsoever.

The more serious libertarian leaning Republican candidate would have been former governor Gary Johnson of New Mexico which is why he was completely ignored.
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ijwthstd wrote:Libertarian is a political philosophy (and a very minor political party). Republican is a political party with tens of millions of people including many libertarians.

Ron Paul is a goofball and his fringe supporters mostly seen as harmless. His endorsement is worthless. His true contribution to Romney's victory and backdoor endorsement was going easy on him during the primary campaign, perhaps hoping to secure his son a place on the ticket should he have enough delegates to make any difference whatsoever.

The more serious libertarian leaning Republican candidate would have been former governor Gary Johnson of New Mexico which is why he was completely ignored.
Ron Paul is THE most intelligent politician of our time. What you don't seem to understand (like many), are several things.

Ron Paul has at least DOUBLED his support base since 2008 and now includes SEVERAL MILLION supporters and they certainly can no longer be called "fringe" supporters. RP knows world financial systems, domestic and foreign currency like the back of his hand. And hence, he has the financial expertise to help get your country out of this financial mess. Obamney does NOT. RP is NOT owned and operated by the Military Industrial Complex (MIC). Obamney ARE. RP wants to end the illegal, undeclared wars in the Middle East that are ALL about making oil barons and associated war profiteers wealthier. Obamney does NOT. RP does NOT accept bribes from lobbyists. Obamney do. RP does NOT BS and has had a consistent record of integrity for DECADES. Obamney does NOT. RP does NOT demagogue - if you don't like his platform, TOUGH. Obamney does. And RP does NOT / is NOT endorsing Mitt Romney in ANY way shape or form. Rand Paul and Ron Paul don't share the same political platform. Last month, Ron Paul had about 20% of the Republican delegates and 7 plurality states won before the GOP/RNC changed the rules to 8 plurality states won, a few days before the RNC and hence completely fucked him over. Before the rules changes, RP was perfectly qualified to not only speak at the RNC but be placed on the ballot. A brokered convention could have been EASILY forced (which is how Eisenhower won with only 5 plurality states, way back when) and Ron Paul would've had a VERY good change at winning the Republican Nomination. The GOP/RNC knew that...and THAT is exactly why they changed the rules and fucked Ron Paul over. In fact, despite being technically on the "right", RP is liberal enough to have attracted a support base of over 50% Independents and/or Democrats...

So, how is Ron Paul a "goofball"?

In REALITY, RP is THE most sane politician in recent memory.
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Moggio wrote:
RP does NOT accept brides from lobbyists.

RP does NOT demagogue - if you don't like his platform, TOUGH.
This is the second time you've told us that RP dies not accept "brides".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/demagogue
Usage Note: Among the nouns that the Usage Panel is loath to see used as a verb is demagogue, meaning "to speak about something in the manner of a demagogue." Ninety-four percent reject it in the sentence The President will demagogue Medicare, unwilling to acknowledge that fundamental reforms need to be made. Resistance to the use of traditional nouns as verbs is sometimes strong, especially when the novel usages are associated with business or bureaucratic jargon.
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Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:
RP does NOT accept brides from lobbyists.

RP does NOT demagogue - if you don't like his platform, TOUGH.
This is the second time you've told us that RP dies not accept "brides".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/demagogue
Usage Note: Among the nouns that the Usage Panel is loath to see used as a verb is demagogue, meaning "to speak about something in the manner of a demagogue." Ninety-four percent reject it in the sentence The President will demagogue Medicare, unwilling to acknowledge that fundamental reforms need to be made. Resistance to the use of traditional nouns as verbs is sometimes strong, especially when the novel usages are associated with business or bureaucratic jargon.
That's nice, darling. Once again, it's PURELY PATHETIC that you concentrate on typos. And btw, I did NOT misuse the meaning of demagogue:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/demagogue

dem·a·gogue
n.
1. A leader who obtains power by means of impassioned appeals to the emotions and prejudices of the populace.
2. A leader of the common people in ancient times.

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n

1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a political agitator who appeals with crude oratory to the prejudice and passions of the mob
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) (esp in the ancient world) any popular political leader or orator

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Noun 1. demagogue - a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular passions and prejudices



ONCE AGAIN, Obamney are DEMAGOGUES and they DEMAGOGUE their brains out! (so, stop splitting hairs). And they will continue to...and MANY poor suckers will keep voting for them...
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What flies over your head is the fact that "demagogue" is a NOUN.
You used it as a VERB.
Even the definition you posted shows it to be a NOUN.

If Ron Paul was president, he wouldn't "president" all over the place.
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Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:What flies over your head is the fact that "demagogue" is a NOUN.
You used it as a VERB.
Even the definition you posted shows it to be a NOUN.

If Ron Paul was president, he wouldn't "president" all over the place.
Get back to me when 100% of the usage panel reject it, sunshine. :roll:
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Moggio wrote:
Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:What flies over your head is the fact that "demagogue" is a NOUN.
You used it as a VERB.
Even the definition you posted shows it to be a NOUN.

If Ron Paul was president, he wouldn't "president" all over the place.
Get back to me when 100% of the usage panel reject it, sunshine. :roll:
Don't you mean, get back to you when they "usage panel" it?
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Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:
Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:What flies over your head is the fact that "demagogue" is a NOUN.
You used it as a VERB.
Even the definition you posted shows it to be a NOUN.

If Ron Paul was president, he wouldn't "president" all over the place.
Get back to me when 100% of the usage panel reject it, sunshine. :roll:
Don't you mean, get back to you when they "usage panel" it?
Like I said, get back to me when 100% of the usage panel reject it, sunshine. :lol:
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Moggio wrote:
Like I said, get back to me when 100% of the usage panel reject it, sunshine. :lol:
10-4, princess. :mrgreen:
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Moggio wrote:A brokered convention could have been EASILY forced (which is how Eisenhower won with only 5 plurality states, way back when)
Do you really need a real basic history lesson on this?

In 1952 only 12 states held primaries.

You're trying to say Democracy is dead because the public and the party rejected Ron Paul yet primaries had little effect on the outcome until the 1970's. The public was given 2 candidates to choose from by the parties and that was that.

I guess I could type a simple explanation on how candidates were chosen in the 1950's but why bother, it's obvious you're already seriously floundering with that statement.
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Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:
Like I said, get back to me when 100% of the usage panel reject it, sunshine. :lol:
10-4, princess. :mrgreen:
The fuck? :roll:
ijwthstd wrote:
Moggio wrote:A brokered convention could have been EASILY forced (which is how Eisenhower won with only 5 plurality states, way back when)
Do you really need a real basic history lesson on this?

In 1952 only 12 states held primaries.

You're trying to say Democracy is dead because the public and the party rejected Ron Paul yet primaries had little effect on the outcome until the 1970's. The public was given 2 candidates to choose from by the parties and that was that.

I guess I could type a simple explanation on how candidates were chosen in the 1950's but why bother, it's obvious you're already seriously floundering with that statement.
Not exactly. You're missing the point.

The Republican Party went CLEAR out of their way to CHANGE THE RULES a few days before the RNC, in order to fuck Ron Paul over. Maine's Governor actually boycotted the RNC because of this. And also, the bus driver for Paul's Virginia delegates purposely made them arrive late to the RNC so they couldn't vote. Shit, John Boehner read from a teleprompter when overseeing / announcing the voting and it stated the winners BEFORE he was even finished deciding who won! The GOP/RNC wouldn't have gone CLEAR out of their way to do this if Ron Paul didn't have a chance at winning the nomination. A brokered convention could've been forced. THAT is why I was saying that democracy is close to dead in your country. Because, if there was any doubt before, this PROVES the system is rigged...
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Moggio wrote:
Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:
Like I said, get back to me when 100% of the usage panel reject it, sunshine. :lol:
10-4, princess. :mrgreen:
The fuck? :roll:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=10-4

"10-4 means "OK," "understood," and "affirmative." Commonly known as CB radio lingo, originating from the need for brevity in radio transmission."

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Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:
Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
10-4, princess. :mrgreen:
The fuck? :roll:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=10-4

"10-4 means "OK," "understood," and "affirmative." Commonly known as CB radio lingo, originating from the need for brevity in radio transmission."
And another common turn of phrase stumps moggio! :lol:
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Zappa tried to be funny and he was not humorous in the least. He fucking sucked. His legacy exists today because people make more out of nothing.
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Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:
Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
10-4, princess. :mrgreen:
The fuck? :roll:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=10-4

"10-4 means "OK," "understood," and "affirmative." Commonly known as CB radio lingo, originating from the need for brevity in radio transmission."
demolition23 wrote:And another common turn of phrase stumps moggio! :lol:
Nope. Where in the FUCK did I state that I didn't understand what 10-4 meant?! :roll:
Skate4RnR wrote:Zappa tried to be funny and he was not humorous in the least. He fucking sucked. His legacy exists today because people make more out of nothing.
And I should give a fuck about your ultra-ignorant opinion of Zappa because? Btw, it's off topic and on the wrong board. :roll:


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