Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Moderator: Metal Sludge
- Crazy Levi
- Signed to a Major Label Multi-Album Deal
- Posts: 22495
- Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:07 pm
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
The more I look into this ESPN QBR, the more I'm convinced it's a very important stat!
I remember someone saying that RG3 takes "too many sacks."
But RG3 is ranked 14 on ESPN's Sack EPA.
Andrew Leaf is an astoundingly low 25!!!!
So I guess Leaf needs to work on taking those sacks - like the beatings he suffered today at the hands of the Division Champion Texans.
I remember someone saying that RG3 takes "too many sacks."
But RG3 is ranked 14 on ESPN's Sack EPA.
Andrew Leaf is an astoundingly low 25!!!!
So I guess Leaf needs to work on taking those sacks - like the beatings he suffered today at the hands of the Division Champion Texans.
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Failed troll, is a failure.Crazy Levi wrote:Hmm. Seems I was a little premature.
Andrew Leaf is currently #11.
NUMBER 11!!!
Out of the top ten. How low will he go?
Very troubling.
This is an important stat.
Meanwhile, RG3 is #5, and Russel Wilson is #7.
Well, at least Leaf is having a better rookie year than Weeden.

DISCLAIMER: The below images were forced upon me against my will by the moderator and are NOT of my choosing.




- Crazy Levi
- Signed to a Major Label Multi-Album Deal
- Posts: 22495
- Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:07 pm
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Total QBR is an important stat.
The only failure here is Andrew Leaf.
A new sig is already being prepared.
The only failure here is Andrew Leaf.
A new sig is already being prepared.
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
What are you going to do when Luck wins ROY? Do you have your excuses ready?
DISCLAIMER: The below images were forced upon me against my will by the moderator and are NOT of my choosing.




- dtmfs
- MSX Tour Support Act
- Posts: 4647
- Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:31 pm
- Location: Mother fuckin' Earth
- Contact:
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Funny stuff, Russel Wilson leap frogged his interception throwing ass in that race today.poizond13 wrote:What are you going to do when Luck wins ROY? Do you have your excuses ready?
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
DISCLAIMER: The below images were forced upon me against my will by the moderator and are NOT of my choosing.




- dtmfs
- MSX Tour Support Act
- Posts: 4647
- Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:31 pm
- Location: Mother fuckin' Earth
- Contact:
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
QBR
Wilson, 7th at 94.9
Andrew Luck 31st at 74.5 leads league in picks, not good.
Total QBR Wilson 8th
Luck 12th and falling lke a mother fucker.
Wilson, 7th at 94.9
Andrew Luck 31st at 74.5 leads league in picks, not good.
Total QBR Wilson 8th
Luck 12th and falling lke a mother fucker.
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Tony Dungy stated today that Luck will win the ROY award.
Get your excuses ready.
Get your excuses ready.
DISCLAIMER: The below images were forced upon me against my will by the moderator and are NOT of my choosing.




- dtmfs
- MSX Tour Support Act
- Posts: 4647
- Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:31 pm
- Location: Mother fuckin' Earth
- Contact:
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Well that fucking seals it.poizond13 wrote:Tony Dungy stated today that Luck will win the ROY award.
Get your excuses ready.
- Facedown
- Playing a Package Tour in Arenas
- Posts: 11988
- Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:23 am
- Location: The land of meatless chicken wings
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Yet, you think it works out so well for yourself.poizond13 wrote:Failed troll, is a failure.

bonedog wrote:I let Facedown get the better of me
bonedog wrote:My first kid will be born when I am 47.
bonedog wrote:I suck at sludging.

- Crazy Levi
- Signed to a Major Label Multi-Album Deal
- Posts: 22495
- Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:07 pm
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Well, the weekend's final tally is in.
And Andrew Leaf has plummeted - like a disco act on the charts in 1980 - all the way to number 12.
NUMBER 12!!!
12 Andrew Leaf, IND
http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr
This has got to be very troubling for any Colts fan, or people who harbor the ridiculous notion that somehow a guy rated below Russel Wilson and leading the league in INTs is gonna win rookie of the year.
How much lower will Andrew Leaf fall in this important stat?
And Andrew Leaf has plummeted - like a disco act on the charts in 1980 - all the way to number 12.
NUMBER 12!!!
12 Andrew Leaf, IND
http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr



This has got to be very troubling for any Colts fan, or people who harbor the ridiculous notion that somehow a guy rated below Russel Wilson and leading the league in INTs is gonna win rookie of the year.
How much lower will Andrew Leaf fall in this important stat?
- Crazy Levi
- Signed to a Major Label Multi-Album Deal
- Posts: 22495
- Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:07 pm
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Now everybody who knows me knows the respect I have for ESPN's Total QBR rating.
QB rating is an antiquated stat and means nothing. It was developed in the 70s and isn't that relevant to today's game. I'd rather look at ESPN's total QBR, which takes into account far more information than the basic passer rating. Clearly, it is an important stat.
And Andrew Leaf has plummeted ALL THE WAY TO number 13!
THIRTEEN!!!!
His ranking has been in a freefall the entire season, and continues to drop literally every week.
6 Robert Griffin III, WSH 71.7
8 Russell Wilson, SEA 70.0
a whole bunch of other guys
13 Andrew Luck, IND 64.4
Behind Tony Romo.
TONY ROMO.
Really pathetic. That's probably why Leaf is running a distant third place in all of the Rookie of the Year talk, behind RG3 and Wilson.
All of those INTs - he's leading the league you know - have taken their toll on Golden Boy's reputation. You just can't turn the ball over that much in the NFL and expect to have any kind of lasting success.
QB rating is an antiquated stat and means nothing. It was developed in the 70s and isn't that relevant to today's game. I'd rather look at ESPN's total QBR, which takes into account far more information than the basic passer rating. Clearly, it is an important stat.
And Andrew Leaf has plummeted ALL THE WAY TO number 13!
THIRTEEN!!!!
His ranking has been in a freefall the entire season, and continues to drop literally every week.
6 Robert Griffin III, WSH 71.7
8 Russell Wilson, SEA 70.0
a whole bunch of other guys
13 Andrew Luck, IND 64.4
Behind Tony Romo.
TONY ROMO.
Really pathetic. That's probably why Leaf is running a distant third place in all of the Rookie of the Year talk, behind RG3 and Wilson.
All of those INTs - he's leading the league you know - have taken their toll on Golden Boy's reputation. You just can't turn the ball over that much in the NFL and expect to have any kind of lasting success.
- Crazy Levi
- Signed to a Major Label Multi-Album Deal
- Posts: 22495
- Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:07 pm
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Andrew Leaf = #11 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
That's probably why he isn't in the Pro Bowl.
Congrats to RG3, the highest rated rookie in the NFL!!
#6.
NUMBER 6!!!!
It's an important stat. Thanks to Gregg for bringing this rating to our attention.
That's probably why he isn't in the Pro Bowl.
Congrats to RG3, the highest rated rookie in the NFL!!
#6.
NUMBER 6!!!!
It's an important stat. Thanks to Gregg for bringing this rating to our attention.
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
RGTebow final game stats:
9/18 100 Yards 0 TD

9/18 100 Yards 0 TD




DISCLAIMER: The below images were forced upon me against my will by the moderator and are NOT of my choosing.




- Crazy Levi
- Signed to a Major Label Multi-Album Deal
- Posts: 22495
- Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:07 pm
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
poizond13 wrote:RGTebow final game stats:
9/18 100 Yards 0 TD
![]()
![]()
![]()

DISCLAIMER: The below images were forced upon me against my will by the moderator and are NOT of my choosing.




- SkyDog112046
- Headlining Clubs
- Posts: 3401
- Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:58 pm
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
23 TDs
18 INTs
9 Fumbles
54.1% Comp
6.98 AVG
76.5 RAT
Luck had more INTs and fumbles than touchdowns. He had 5 multiple INT games. He threw at least one interception in 10 of 16 games. The only road games he had without a pick were against a shitty KC team and a tanking Houston team.
18 INTs
9 Fumbles
54.1% Comp
6.98 AVG
76.5 RAT
Luck had more INTs and fumbles than touchdowns. He had 5 multiple INT games. He threw at least one interception in 10 of 16 games. The only road games he had without a pick were against a shitty KC team and a tanking Houston team.
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Love how you deliberately leave out his yardage and game winning drives. Kind of like a guy who says he's a body builder, but leaves out the fact that he's fat and has a huge gut.SkyDog112046 wrote:23 TDs
18 INTs
9 Fumbles
54.1% Comp
6.98 AVG
76.5 RAT
Luck had more INTs and fumbles than touchdowns. He had 5 multiple INT games. He threw at least one interception in 10 of 16 games. The only road games he had without a pick were against a shitty KC team and a tanking Houston team.

Last year Cam Newton was a "rookie sensation," easily won rookie of the year, and had what many consider the best ever season for a rookie QB. This year Andrew Luck threw for more yards than Newton did last year(rookie record,) threw just one pick more, and tied an NFL record for the most game winning drives in a season. That's the rookie of the year.
DISCLAIMER: The below images were forced upon me against my will by the moderator and are NOT of my choosing.




- dtmfs
- MSX Tour Support Act
- Posts: 4647
- Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:31 pm
- Location: Mother fuckin' Earth
- Contact:
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
And RG3 and Wilson have both turned in Rookie seasons that rival and even surpass Newtons, I love how You bring up him leaving out the not too impressive Yardage but You're constantly in denial about Lucks horrible INT's and pass %. You'd've been onto something if Luck was more effcient and actually could spot his recievers better than the oppositions. He's not winning it He blew his chances When He went turnover crazy.poizond13 wrote: Last year Cam Newton was a "rookie sensation," easily won rookie of the year, and had what many consider the best ever season for a rookie QB. This year Andrew Luck threw for more yards than Newton did last year(rookie record,) threw just one pick more, and tied an NFL record for the most game winning drives in a season. That's the rookie of the year.
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
RGTebow final game stats:
9/18 100 Yards 0 TD
DTMFS and Levy: "That's efficient!"

RGTebow throws for over 1,000 yards LESS than Cam Newton 2011 and fewer TDs.
DTMFS and Levy: "RGTebow surpassed Cam's performance."

You can't make this shit up.
9/18 100 Yards 0 TD
DTMFS and Levy: "That's efficient!"


RGTebow throws for over 1,000 yards LESS than Cam Newton 2011 and fewer TDs.
DTMFS and Levy: "RGTebow surpassed Cam's performance."


You can't make this shit up.

DISCLAIMER: The below images were forced upon me against my will by the moderator and are NOT of my choosing.




- Luminiferous
- Playing First Stage at SludgeFest
- Posts: 29049
- Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:47 pm
- Location: OI! Down here mate!
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that if Luck doesn't win ROY, Greg will label it a "sham."


- bigbuttskinner
- Headlining Clubs
- Posts: 2327
- Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:11 am
- Location: hidin on the Backstreets
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Dumbest thing I've ever read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!poizond13 wrote: Kind of like a guy who says he's a body builder, but leaves out the fact that he's fat and has a huge gut.
michelish wrote: VH album will be dropping first half of 2019. Album has been completed for a few months. They've been recording on and off since just after last tour.Finalizing title and artwork.
referring to Queen movieNitrorulz wrote: I predict “The Dirt” will do double that.
- Luminiferous
- Playing First Stage at SludgeFest
- Posts: 29049
- Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:47 pm
- Location: OI! Down here mate!
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
It's called avoiding the facts Lickety posted..bigbuttskinner wrote:Dumbest thing I've ever read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!poizond13 wrote: Kind of like a guy who says he's a body builder, but leaves out the fact that he's fat and has a huge gut.

- dtmfs
- MSX Tour Support Act
- Posts: 4647
- Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:31 pm
- Location: Mother fuckin' Earth
- Contact:
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
So you want to base the award on one game?? Sweet, Lets look a little harder at Andrew George and his 5 INT performence against the pats.poizond13 wrote:RGTebow final game stats:
9/18 100 Yards 0 TD
DTMFS and Levy: "That's efficient!"
![]()
RGTebow throws for over 1,000 yards LESS than Cam Newton 2011 and fewer TDs.
DTMFS and Levy: "RGTebow surpassed Cam's performance."
![]()
You can't make this shit up.
advantage>RG3.
- exitflagger
- Playing First Stage at SludgeFest
- Posts: 26966
- Joined: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:48 pm
- Location: Taking in the 4AM show at the Clark
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Whoa, what an ownmeister! Let me guess... he's overweight too, huh? And on top of that he's tubby!poizond13 wrote:Kind of like a guy who says he's a body builder, but leaves out the fact that he's fat and has a huge gut.![]()
Redundancy is badass, bro d00der!!!



- SkyDog112046
- Headlining Clubs
- Posts: 3401
- Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:58 pm
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
I am pointing out why Luck shouldn't get the Rookie of the Year award. Yardage doesn't mean squat here - he would have had to have set the overall yardage record for it to make up for the rest of his stats. Cut his picks in half and then he probably gets it, but when a QB turns over the ball 27 times he isn't worthy of any award.poizond13 wrote:Love how you deliberately leave out his yardage and game winning drives.SkyDog112046 wrote:23 TDs
18 INTs
9 Fumbles
54.1% Comp
6.98 AVG
76.5 RAT
Luck had more INTs and fumbles than touchdowns. He had 5 multiple INT games. He threw at least one interception in 10 of 16 games. The only road games he had without a pick were against a shitty KC team and a tanking Houston team.
- Crazy Levi
- Signed to a Major Label Multi-Album Deal
- Posts: 22495
- Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:07 pm
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
Yeah, I'll admit it wasn't his best game. Some of his passes were not as sharp as usual, and there were a couple of drops.poizond13 wrote:RGTebow final game stats:
9/18 100 Yards 0 TD
But to pretend that he had a bad game and that the Skins won "in spite" of him is ridiculous. If you say that, you haven't seen the game, or you are just trolling.
What the stats don't show is that RG3 threw several clutch third-down passes to keep key drives - and the clock - moving. And he ran for 60 yards at 10 yards per carry. That's huge. A rushing TD is just as good as a passing TD.
Morris had an amazing day, but those drives weren't just all him. The stats don't show how effective RG3 was at confusing the defense, particularly Ware, to open those running lanes. The play action and read option continues to destroy NFL defenses, and NFL defensive coaches.
The Redskins beat Dallas into submission with the run, which was the game plan. But Morris couldn't have carried the team without RG3 running the show.
The game was another chapter in the legend that RG3's rookie season has become. People will be talking about this shit for years. He's putting together the best rookie season ever for a QB.
Only an idiot would make fun of RG3's stats, and you won't find a credible member of the media who agrees with Gregg's review of RG3's performance leading the Redskins to the NFC East title.
- Crazy Levi
- Signed to a Major Label Multi-Album Deal
- Posts: 22495
- Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:07 pm
Re: Andrew Luck = #1 QBR Total Quarterback Rating in NFL!!
So, congrats to Andrew Leaf...for the first time in what seems like AGES, he did NOT plunge further in the Total QBR rankings.
In fact, he somehow managed to claw himself all the way back to #11!!! Now, that isn't quite the top 10, but it's a valiant effort from a turnover machine who seemed destined to finish in the bottom 10. And hey, he just barely beat out Tony Romo! So he's got that going for him.
Meanwhile, RG3 is sitting pretty at #6, where he's been all year. Highest Total QBR of any rookie QB.
I want to thank Gregg for introducing me to Total QBR. I had no idea it existed! But now, seeing it in action and how it truly and accurately evaluates the worth of a QB, I can see what Gregg was trying to tell me all season long (or at least the first 3 games before Andrew Leaf started to plummet in the rankings and he suddenly stopped mentioning it).
Truly, and surely, it is an important stat.
In fact, he somehow managed to claw himself all the way back to #11!!! Now, that isn't quite the top 10, but it's a valiant effort from a turnover machine who seemed destined to finish in the bottom 10. And hey, he just barely beat out Tony Romo! So he's got that going for him.
Meanwhile, RG3 is sitting pretty at #6, where he's been all year. Highest Total QBR of any rookie QB.
I want to thank Gregg for introducing me to Total QBR. I had no idea it existed! But now, seeing it in action and how it truly and accurately evaluates the worth of a QB, I can see what Gregg was trying to tell me all season long (or at least the first 3 games before Andrew Leaf started to plummet in the rankings and he suddenly stopped mentioning it).
Truly, and surely, it is an important stat.