Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
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Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
30 years ago I was a Motley fan tried and true. But having the perspective of an old man, Ratt were the better band by a million miles. Cellar, Invasion, Sky and even Undercover are radder than hell. I hated Detonator when it came out but I have come to love it. I don’t care if Desmond and Diane have their fingerprints all over it. Infestation is better than anything Motley has done in 25 years, maybe 38 years. I’ve never heard the yellow album.
Stephen > Vince
Warren and Robbin > MicK
Juan > Frank
Blobz & Tommy…well every band has at least one turd in the bowl
Motley Brew and Brandon are unforgivable sins where there is no atonement for.
Stephen > Vince
Warren and Robbin > MicK
Juan > Frank
Blobz & Tommy…well every band has at least one turd in the bowl
Motley Brew and Brandon are unforgivable sins where there is no atonement for.
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I Want A Woman and Girls Girls Girls videos gave me my awesome lifestyle- still living the dream everyday and night!
Motley personal lives made them megastars - just this week Motley wife took down coyote
It’s like Baywatch(Motley) vs Baywatch Hawaii (Ratt)
Motley personal lives made them megastars - just this week Motley wife took down coyote
It’s like Baywatch(Motley) vs Baywatch Hawaii (Ratt)
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Yes and it's not as close as I expected. Ranking their top 5 albums: First three Mötley followed by first two Ratt. Top 10 songs: 8 Mötley, 2 Ratt (You're in Love and Wanted Man)
Got to give Ratt that they released less crap. The s/t sucks and Dancing Undercover is all filler, but not as bad as Swine, Mc94 and New Tattoo.
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Re: Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
Not close. Ratt had a great guitarist but all albums are all filler, a couple decent tracks.
Motley had a bunch of filler plus standout tracks on all their records, plus a classic album in SATD.
Ratt were accurately rated by the public. The further they got from Round and Round, the more their success dwindled.
Motley had a bunch of filler plus standout tracks on all their records, plus a classic album in SATD.
Ratt were accurately rated by the public. The further they got from Round and Round, the more their success dwindled.
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Re: Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
Too Fast and Shout give Motley the win.
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I’ll give Too Fast the slight edge over Cellar but Invasion was always more music to my ears than Shout even when I was a bigger Crue fan.
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That didn’t happen with Motley, unfairly I might add. We kept buying their crap even when it wasn’t as good as their earlier material. Girls, Girls, Girls sold as much as the two that preceded it. Feelgood good sold more when it really wasn’t that good of an album outside of the singles. The red line was when they fired Vince and they went Seattle.HueyRamone wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:13 pm Not close. Ratt had a great guitarist but all albums are all filler, a couple decent tracks.
Motley had a bunch of filler plus standout tracks on all their records, plus a classic album in SATD.
Ratt were accurately rated by the public. The further they got from Round and Round, the more their success dwindled.
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Re: Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
Ratt no doubt about it. Basically the same reasons that you put together:
Pearcy beats Vince. I could see an argument saying otherwise, but I think Pearcy is better.
Ratt's dual guitars are miles ahead of Mick. Not even close in every aspect for me.
Bass....better dancing, better base playing, REAL high pitched vocals vs whatever canned/jarred shit Nikki has going on there.
Drums.. Crue prob beats out Ratt, but Ratt is perfectly fitting for the music.
Songs... see the appeal for some Crue songs, but these days I think Ratt has Crue beat.
Pearcy beats Vince. I could see an argument saying otherwise, but I think Pearcy is better.
Ratt's dual guitars are miles ahead of Mick. Not even close in every aspect for me.
Bass....better dancing, better base playing, REAL high pitched vocals vs whatever canned/jarred shit Nikki has going on there.
Drums.. Crue prob beats out Ratt, but Ratt is perfectly fitting for the music.
Songs... see the appeal for some Crue songs, but these days I think Ratt has Crue beat.
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Re: Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
Both, but when forced to choose, I've always given Ratt the pussy-hair's edge because of OOTC. Both bands' first five albums are untouchably good, though.

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Motley are a better band and better brand and better songwriiers and more legit Rock authentic even though they may not be as talented as certain Ratt members.
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Re: Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
Exactly this.
Plus... Ratt sucks.
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It’s good to see Ratt has caught up for the tie
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Re: Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
Damn, I just broke the tie in favour of Mötley: 13 to 12
I love Ratt, but Dancing/Detonator/Reach might as well be the same album, they all sound the same.
Mötley's first 5 albums are truly individual stand-apart albums. Theater/Girls/Feelgood have some filler, but so what? So do the aforementioned Ratt albums. Not to mention that Mötley came up with a different band logo on each album, that's pretty ballsy marketing!
I love Ratt, but Dancing/Detonator/Reach might as well be the same album, they all sound the same.
Mötley's first 5 albums are truly individual stand-apart albums. Theater/Girls/Feelgood have some filler, but so what? So do the aforementioned Ratt albums. Not to mention that Mötley came up with a different band logo on each album, that's pretty ballsy marketing!
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Re: Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
Two bands with some great songs but a crazy amount of filler
Ranking albums again:
1. Out of the Cellar
2. Shout
3. Feelgood
4. Side 1 of Invasion
5. Too Fast
6. Detonator
7. Everything else (see filler comment above)
Pretty even. Maybe Motley by a hair. New Tattoo/MC94/Swine/Girls all decent (although MC94 massively overrated like the rest of the Holy Sludge Trinity)
Ranking albums again:
1. Out of the Cellar
2. Shout
3. Feelgood
4. Side 1 of Invasion
5. Too Fast
6. Detonator
7. Everything else (see filler comment above)
Pretty even. Maybe Motley by a hair. New Tattoo/MC94/Swine/Girls all decent (although MC94 massively overrated like the rest of the Holy Sludge Trinity)
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That's the truth! I went with Motley here but I'm sure if we went song vs song, Ratt would win almost half the time.VinnieStJohn wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:53 am Two bands with some great songs but a crazy amount of filler
The thing is that Motley have so many anthems. Ratt have cool guitar riffs and a few vocal lines here and there but those Motley songs are timeless.
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Re: Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
Yeah they were definitely "2 good songs + filler" bands, but, after Invasion, Motley definitely won the "two good songs" battle.DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:47 amThat's the truth! I went with Motley here but I'm sure if we went song vs song, Ratt would win almost half the time.VinnieStJohn wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:53 am Two bands with some great songs but a crazy amount of filler
The thing is that Motley have so many anthems. Ratt have cool guitar riffs and a few vocal lines here and there but those Motley songs are timeless.
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While DUC is a dud for me I’m a big fan of RFTS and Detonator.
Vince was the better frontman and for me, along with Tommy’s drumming are the only
things Motley have on Ratt. Ratt was on average, better musicians, the better live band, had a cooler image
and while not as popular, still did very well for themselves at the time.
Motley were selling cheesy, forced rebellion. Ratt’s lyrics were way better. Motley’s sleaze
was a marketing ploy and vehicle. Ratt’s was honest and a natural thing.
Vince was the better frontman and for me, along with Tommy’s drumming are the only
things Motley have on Ratt. Ratt was on average, better musicians, the better live band, had a cooler image
and while not as popular, still did very well for themselves at the time.
Motley were selling cheesy, forced rebellion. Ratt’s lyrics were way better. Motley’s sleaze
was a marketing ploy and vehicle. Ratt’s was honest and a natural thing.
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Re: Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
Ratt by leaps and bounds. And it's not even close, despite a bit of filler in later Ratt albums. Ratt wins on strength of the reunion album, too, where Motley's haven't been good at all.
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Ratt had the cooler image? TFFL & SATD image RULED!Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:26 am While DUC is a dud for me I’m a big fan of RFTS and Detonator.
Vince was the better frontman and for me, along with Tommy’s drumming are the only
things Motley have on Ratt. Ratt was on average, better musicians, the better live band, had a cooler image
and while not as popular, still did very well for themselves at the time.
Motley were selling cheesy, forced rebellion. Ratt’s lyrics were way better. Motley’s sleaze
was a marketing ploy and vehicle. Ratt’s was honest and a natural thing.
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TREVERLAST wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:07 amRatt had the cooler image? TFFL & SATD image RULED!Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:26 am While DUC is a dud for me I’m a big fan of RFTS and Detonator.
Vince was the better frontman and for me, along with Tommy’s drumming are the only
things Motley have on Ratt. Ratt was on average, better musicians, the better live band, had a cooler image
and while not as popular, still did very well for themselves at the time.
Motley were selling cheesy, forced rebellion. Ratt’s lyrics were way better. Motley’s sleaze
was a marketing ploy and vehicle. Ratt’s was honest and a natural thing.
SATD was cool when I was 12. Now I see it for what it is, bad imitation KISS.
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Re: Pick Your Poison Poll Edition: Motley Crue or Ratt?
I like both bands, but aside from Generation Swine, I can still listen to/enjoy all of Motley Crue's albums, RATT on the other hand has a glut of forgettable filler.
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Ratt by a mile. BUT, Motley during the TFFL & Shout eras, were the coolest looking most bad ass band out there. But musically, Ratt has always crushed them. Warren over Mick any day of the week and it isn't even close.
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I was 9 when it came out & I knew back then it was a KISS rip off.Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:21 pmTREVERLAST wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:07 amRatt had the cooler image? TFFL & SATD image RULED!Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:26 am While DUC is a dud for me I’m a big fan of RFTS and Detonator.
Vince was the better frontman and for me, along with Tommy’s drumming are the only
things Motley have on Ratt. Ratt was on average, better musicians, the better live band, had a cooler image
and while not as popular, still did very well for themselves at the time.
Motley were selling cheesy, forced rebellion. Ratt’s lyrics were way better. Motley’s sleaze
was a marketing ploy and vehicle. Ratt’s was honest and a natural thing.
SATD was cool when I was 12. Now I see it for what it is, bad imitation KISS.
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I think it’s influenced by British steel Audially, and kiss visually.Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:21 pmTREVERLAST wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:07 amRatt had the cooler image? TFFL & SATD image RULED!Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:26 am While DUC is a dud for me I’m a big fan of RFTS and Detonator.
Vince was the better frontman and for me, along with Tommy’s drumming are the only
things Motley have on Ratt. Ratt was on average, better musicians, the better live band, had a cooler image
and while not as popular, still did very well for themselves at the time.
Motley were selling cheesy, forced rebellion. Ratt’s lyrics were way better. Motley’s sleaze
was a marketing ploy and vehicle. Ratt’s was honest and a natural thing.
SATD was cool when I was 12. Now I see it for what it is, bad imitation KISS.
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