CHARLIE KIRK ... Shot (apparently a bullet to the neck) at a speaking event at Utah Valley University, developing!

[Metal Sludge]

He was obviously saving her from herself and her bad decisions in life to that point. What a hero!

BTW, did anyone else read abkut the Fox presenter who's called for homeless people to be summarily executed with a lethal injection because .... well, why not? Maybe DontDamnMe can let us know if that's actually another example of the evil Demo-commie-fascists who hate America?

https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-host- ... ss-2129492

Just look at the housing thread, dude is almost homeless

DDM has gone completely off radar in these Kirk topics. Maybe the kid is weeping and radicalizing in his parents basement? Who knows. Does he have acces to guns?

He's not a kid. I'm going to guess he's in his 50's. He was also a Qanon crazy, so there's that.
There was a conversation a couple of months ago regarding his landlord.
I sympathized because my landlords are assholes too.
But find that thread that he started, and see how he handles life. It's pathetic.

[Hatchets Molly]

Arrested development

[Fat_Elvis]

Arrested development

Hey! Don't lump us all together!

[Dyslexicheart]

Interesting when confronted with their complete disregard for the murders in Minnesota, these RWNJ never have a response.

Sure they do - everything is "out of context". They don't appear to understand what that means.

[Gibsonite]

https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/09/15/ ... kirk-golf/

Trump skips Kennedy Center prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk to golf: report

President Donald Trump reportedly skipped a prayer vigil for slain conservative commentator Charlie Kirk Sunday at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.

The president’s public events schedule was blank for Sunday, The Daily Beast reported, and his press schedule indicated he was spending the weekend at his Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J. On Saturday, Trump pontificated about suspect Tyler Robinson and his alleged radicalization while discussing the shooting at the “Hope Through Education” gala held at the New Jersey residence, TMZ reported.

By 6:30 p.m. Sunday Trump was back in the White House, TMZ noted, practically down the block from the long lines of people hoping to get inside the auditorium.

Numerous GOP luminaries were on hand, including Trump administration officials, as the vigil kicked off at about 6 p.m.

[Bono Nettencourt]

Sammy loved Charlie, of course:

https://www.threads.com/@sammyhagar/post/DOfM1-JkVT1

[Metal Sludge]

Sammy loved Charlie, of course:

https://www.threads.com/@sammyhagar/post/DOfM1-JkVT1

Really? Do I have to hate him now?
I don't really want to. I've always loved Sammy, except for the first 20 years in Van Halen.
Yes, I held a grudge for that long.
But I got over it eventually.

[Van Ailin']

Sammy loved Charlie, of course:

https://www.threads.com/@sammyhagar/post/DOfM1-JkVT1

Really? Do I have to hate him now?
I don't really want to. I've always loved Sammy, except for the first 20 years in Van Halen.
Yes, I held a grudge for that long.
But I got over it eventually.

Sammy was in Van Halen for 10 years (and then one year more, later).

[Metal Sludge]

Sammy loved Charlie, of course:

https://www.threads.com/@sammyhagar/post/DOfM1-JkVT1

Really? Do I have to hate him now?
I don't really want to. I've always loved Sammy, except for the first 20 years in Van Halen.
Yes, I held a grudge for that long.
But I got over it eventually.

Sammy was in Van Halen for 10 years (and then one year more, later).

OK, well thanks for that. I think that helps a little bit.
I've been over it for a long time.
But Goddamn! I hated Van Hagar at first!
Van Halen had a voice, and it was David Lee Roth.
And I know dudes are all, but it's Eddie's band and his guitar, blah, blah, blah!
I know that, I get it!
But singers are hard to replace.
It's almost never been done successfully.
Van Halen had to go a whole different route.
AC/DC was seamless! To this day, most fans don't know that Bon Scott ever existed. That's a shame, but it's true.

[rubysdad]

Sammy loved Charlie, of course:

https://www.threads.com/@sammyhagar/post/DOfM1-JkVT1

Really? Do I have to hate him now?
I don't really want to. I've always loved Sammy, except for the first 20 years in Van Halen.
Yes, I held a grudge for that long.
But I got over it eventually.

Nah, hates a waste of energy.
And your right about Dave in Van Halen, he was the focal point that most folk noticed.
When Sammy joined he was Eddie’s singer.

As far as Kirk and his death goes, here in Oz, until his death I’d never heard of him.
Can’t get away from him now.
The things he said and did were horrendous, I heard on a podcast this morning his “company” raised millions of dollars.
The fact this other guy shot him is also horrendous, but I’m not surprised.
The world appears to be slipping back into lawlessness, like the old west, if you will.
When the law fails to keep up standards the people will eventually revolt.
It’s why governments around the world will crush dissent, they know what’s coming.

[Metal Sludge]

Sammy loved Charlie, of course:

https://www.threads.com/@sammyhagar/post/DOfM1-JkVT1

Really? Do I have to hate him now?
I don't really want to. I've always loved Sammy, except for the first 20 years in Van Halen.
Yes, I held a grudge for that long.
But I got over it eventually.

Nah, hates a waste of energy.
And your right about Dave in Van Halen, he was the focal point that most folk noticed.
When Sammy joined he was Eddie’s singer.

As far as Kirk and his death goes, here in Oz, until his death I’d never heard of him.
Can’t get away from him now.
The things he said and did were horrendous, I heard on a podcast this morning his “company” raised millions of dollars.
The fact this other guy shot him is also horrendous, but I’m not surprised.
The world appears to be slipping back into lawlessness, like the old west, if you will.
When the law fails to keep up standards the people will eventually revolt.
It’s why governments around the world will crush dissent, they know what’s coming.

I'd never heard of him either, until Musk took over Twitter.
I never tweeted myself, but I am a political news junkie, and I would read stuff.
After Musk got it, it turned in to a right wing cesspool.
That's when I first heard of Charlie Kirk.
I was surprised to learn he was married after he was shot. I had him pegged for an incel for years.

[rubysdad]

Really? Do I have to hate him now?
I don't really want to. I've always loved Sammy, except for the first 20 years in Van Halen.
Yes, I held a grudge for that long.
But I got over it eventually.

Nah, hates a waste of energy.
And your right about Dave in Van Halen, he was the focal point that most folk noticed.
When Sammy joined he was Eddie’s singer.

As far as Kirk and his death goes, here in Oz, until his death I’d never heard of him.
Can’t get away from him now.
The things he said and did were horrendous, I heard on a podcast this morning his “company” raised millions of dollars.
The fact this other guy shot him is also horrendous, but I’m not surprised.
The world appears to be slipping back into lawlessness, like the old west, if you will.
When the law fails to keep up standards the people will eventually revolt.
It’s why governments around the world will crush dissent, they know what’s coming.

I'd never heard of him either, until Musk took over Twitter.
I never tweeted myself, but I am a political news junkie, and I would read stuff.
After Musk got it, it turned in to a right wing cesspool.
That's when I first heard of Charlie Kirk.
I was surprised to learn he was married after he was shot. I had him pegged for an incel for years.

I wasn’t on Twitter.
I judged it to be a young person thing, from what I hear now it’s not a place I’d be interested in.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Really? Do I have to hate him now?
I don't really want to. I've always loved Sammy, except for the first 20 years in Van Halen.
Yes, I held a grudge for that long.
But I got over it eventually.

Sammy was in Van Halen for 10 years (and then one year more, later).

OK, well thanks for that. I think that helps a little bit.
I've been over it for a long time.
But Goddamn! I hated Van Hagar at first!
Van Halen had a voice, and it was David Lee Roth.
And I know dudes are all, but it's Eddie's band and his guitar, blah, blah, blah!
I know that, I get it!
But singers are hard to replace.
It's almost never been done successfully.
Van Halen had to go a whole different route.
AC/DC was seamless! To this day, most fans don't know that Bon Scott ever existed. That's a shame, but it's true.

In fairness to Eddie and the band, Dave did go solo. He had to have known releasing CFTH was going to unleash a sh*t storm
within the band. He left four months later with CFTH climbing the charts.

Eddie hated relying on covers after DD and Dave went and released a successful covers ep

I agree with you to an extent. But Dave wasn’t Ozzy. Given where Dave ended up by 1991, he did the band a favor by leaving.

From 1978 to 1981, VH were unf*ckable with. After FW the cracks started to show.

I know fans think there is no comparison but Dave and Kevin Dubrow were their own worst enemies.

Had Kevin not been so insufferable it’s possible Randy would have stuck around or never auditioned for Ozzy

I could be wrong but Kevin later gained a reputation and it seemed like that was there almost from the
beginning.

[Bono Nettencourt]

They never liked each other. Rob Fleischman said in his recent interview that even in 78 the bros couldn't stand him. Eddie threatened to quit several times but always chickened out. Dave's solo EP and movie deal were the last straw.

[dmbrocker]

They never liked each other. Rob Fleischman said in his recent interview that even in 78 the bros couldn't stand him. Eddie threatened to quit several times but always chickened out. Dave's solo EP and movie deal were the last straw.

Was there anyone the VH bros. liked? Or were their egos too massive to be able to contend with anyone in the band besides themselves?

[Bono Nettencourt]

Well, remember that the reason that he joined the band was because he had a PA and they needed one. I guess they always saw it as it was their band and they let him in, but we all saw how he ended up taking things over bit by bit.

[TravisBicklesMohawk]

https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/09/15/ ... kirk-golf/

Trump skips Kennedy Center prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk to golf: report

President Donald Trump reportedly skipped a prayer vigil for slain conservative commentator Charlie Kirk Sunday at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.

The president’s public events schedule was blank for Sunday, The Daily Beast reported, and his press schedule indicated he was spending the weekend at his Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J. On Saturday, Trump pontificated about suspect Tyler Robinson and his alleged radicalization while discussing the shooting at the “Hope Through Education” gala held at the New Jersey residence, TMZ reported.

By 6:30 p.m. Sunday Trump was back in the White House, TMZ noted, practically down the block from the long lines of people hoping to get inside the auditorium.

Numerous GOP luminaries were on hand, including Trump administration officials, as the vigil kicked off at about 6 p.m.

Can't wait to see Pedo boy falling asleep at Chuck's funeral.

And I know the right-wing tards are desperate to keep this useless chud in the spotlight because they don't want him to wind up like Rush Limbaugh. You know, dead, then completely forgotten in about two months. Let's hope this plays out the same way.

And fuck Sammy Hagar.

[Hatchets Molly]

And fuck Sammy Hagar.

And his famous cousin, Ken.

[Sleek]

Was there anyone the VH bros. liked? Or were their egos too massive to be able to contend with anyone in the band besides themselves?

I don't even think Ed had close friendships. He would cycle through people.

I figure it was some childhood trauma shit ~both parents both seem to have been assholes of one type or another, and the two brothers get transplanted here in grade school, half-Asian kids who didn't speak the language and probably only had each other.

They certainly seemed to consistently shit on anybody not named Van Halen, no matter how long they had been with them.

Normal people form bonds over time...with SOME people at least.

[NeonKnite]

Back on topic...

The shooter definitely came from a MAGA family because he's dumber than box of rocks.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/15198463/c ... e-charges/

He thinks if he gets his gun he 'leaves no evidence." Yes, in a society where there's literally a camera everywhere you turn nowadays.

[Hatchets Molly]

Back on topic...

The shooter definitely came from a MAGA family because he's dumber than box of rocks.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/15198463/c ... e-charges/

He thinks if he gets his gun he 'leaves no evidence." Yes, in a society where there's literally a camera everywhere you turn nowadays.

I don't want to hear his family's version of things. I want to hear his. Are they saying he began leaning left to create distance between their MAGA beliefs? If true, if not true, the kid should pay the piper. There seem to be "coincidences." Guess we'll see. It's too early to say if those texts are all truths, half-truths, or meant to confuse everything in the investigation. I would think any DUMMY would know texts are not secure. Guns have DNA evidence, powder evidence, etc. Strange stuff.

[Sleek]

Just wanna be first to say that text exchange looks faker than a 3 dollar bill.

[Hatchets Molly]

Just wanna be first to say that text exchange looks faker than a 3 dollar bill.

The story so far falls apart. Cross-eyed Kash testifies this kid assembled and disassembled a bolt action hunting rifle several times in the course of firing and escaping. Doesn’t add. This was not a sniper rifle made to break down, put in your titanium case, assemble in seconds like the movies. Fishy.

[NeonKnite]

https://youtu.be/Upp7HVa1lVY?si=ruLRnSMACCt31dka

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Just wanna be first to say that text exchange looks faker than a 3 dollar bill.

The rifle situation now makes zero sense. Out of all the weapons that family owned, he used his grandfather's "very unique" rifle. The family would immediately know it was him when they found it. If his intention was to "keep it a secret" until he "died of old age," why choose that gun?

"Remember how I was engraving bullets?" LOL. Okay.

Why engrave the bullets if he didn't want them to be found?

And he just murdered a guy, supposedly out of devotion to his romantic partner. Their last conversation is just him going over all the evidence and creating a convenient narrative for the feds? Not very romantic.

Also, is anyone else picking up that this story is essentially Dog Day Afternoon? Like if you removed the clear motive from that film, it's basically the same.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

The parents say this political shift left was "over the last a year or so," when he started dating his roommate. Okay, so the story is within a year, the girldick was so good, he went from seemingly apolitical to committing cold-blooded murder.

A murder that is going to send him to death row and make his roommate a target.

It's the perfect MAGA narrative: "I did this because of this. The end." But the story now is that this apparently intelligent guy didn't even think one step ahead. He had been planning it for a week and didn't take into account that this would do nothing but harm the trans community and help MAGA. And he tied his grandfather to a murder just because he liked the gun.

BLUEANON, MF's!!!

W-w-wait. "Remember when I was engraving bullets?" Okay, so the roommate never asked "Why are you engraving bullets?" I'm not a gun person, is this a thing people do, just cold lamp and engrave bullets with their romantic partners?

[Metal Sludge]

Last night, someone on Facebook, who I don't know, decided they were going to get me fired from my job, for calling Charlie a racist, misogynist, homophobic asshole.
That made me laugh!
And it was then I realized that our website in my profile was out of date. We changed it in 2020. I'm not so good at updating profiles.
But I happily helped him out and gave him the new one, and changed it in my profile.
I imagine he was quite shocked, when he went to the website and found only my email address there!
There were no phone messages when I got to work this morning, but if he'd try to call, he would only get me!
I work alone in my office, my boss comes in once every week or two, to sign checks.
But I did tell him all about how I was going to get fired on the phone this morning. We had a pretty good laugh about that.

[exitflagger]

Doesn't this perfectly mirror the various unhinged goobers we've had on this site over the years? They get all riled and try to take online conflict into real life, usually culminating in trying to get somebody fired from their job.

Such a little bitch move.

[Metal Sludge]

Doesn't this perfectly mirror the various unhinged goobers we've had on this site over the years? They get all riled and try to take online conflict into real life, usually culminating in trying to get somebody fired from their job.

Such a little bitch move.

Yep.

[Danzig in the Dark]

Cancel culture was bad, but now it's good?

What's that word? Hippopotamus? Hippocampus? Hippie?